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Title: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: andyoxon on 03 June, 2015, 04:32:18 pm
Live on Pick TV it seems:  http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/dndfx6/sir-bradley-wiggins-the-hour---live---sir-bradley-wiggins
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Thor on 03 June, 2015, 04:52:52 pm
PICK also appears to be on Freesat.

Lose the beard, Brad - the drag could make all the difference.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: SpaceBadger on 03 June, 2015, 05:21:24 pm
He's going to smash it. Beard or no beard.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: mcshroom on 03 June, 2015, 08:47:52 pm
It's what used to be Sky 3. Can be found on Freesat and freeview :)
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: SpaceBadger on 03 June, 2015, 09:29:28 pm
That's a Sky channel, though, isn't it? I should imagine it'll be available on the YouTube UCIchannel (https://www.youtube.com/user/ucichannel)

I don't know about the UCI Channel, but the Sky Channel on YouTube and the Sky website itself are providing live coverage.

See here:http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/where-to-watch-bradley-wigginss-hour-record-attempt-174707 (http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/where-to-watch-bradley-wigginss-hour-record-attempt-174707)
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: hillbilly on 04 June, 2015, 03:46:32 pm
How long's it on for  :P

(Pick were showing a Bradley Wiggins documentary - "A year in yellow" - the other day.  I saw it listed and wondered why.   This scheduling explains it.)

I am strangely hyped for Wiggo's attempt.  Normally I don't mind, but there is something about his attempt that's caught my imagination.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Katie on 04 June, 2015, 05:27:12 pm
Hoping I can pick up enough signal despite being onnatrain to watch the YouTube stream!
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: pumpkin on 05 June, 2015, 10:28:14 am
D. Telegraph has a podcast with Wiggins/Dowsett/Boardman/Obree. Wiggins v.up for doing this record - wants to finish 'completely spent'.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Aunt Maud on 06 June, 2015, 12:55:37 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgL3ByqBVo

Standing by.....................Surely the chap can do it ?
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: David Martin on 06 June, 2015, 01:21:35 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgL3ByqBVo

Standing by.....................Surely the chap can do it ?

Can't see that in UK...
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: mattc on 06 June, 2015, 05:57:26 pm
Interesting that the attempt is timed to start at 6:30pm, when all the other recent ones have started on the hour. Clearly thinking about the TV scheduling implications there.

Air pressure now looks likely to be way more than 1030hPa, which is 750-1000m of handicap over a low-pressure day.
Cant he just race in a vacuum* chamber? Or have we found the limits of M**doch's pockets?!?

*partial, obvs ...
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: marcusjb on 06 June, 2015, 06:20:39 pm
Interesting that the attempt is timed to start at 6:30pm, when all the other recent ones have started on the hour. Clearly thinking about the TV scheduling implications there.

Air pressure now looks likely to be way more than 1030hPa, which is 750-1000m of handicap over a low-pressure day.

Wow.  I know air pressure makes a difference, but I had not appreciated it could be that significant. Incredible.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Karla on 06 June, 2015, 07:27:58 pm
Say the air pressure is 1035 mbar for his attempt.  A low pressure system over the UK could easily be 50 mbar lower than that, i.e. a 5% difference.  Power lost to drag is linear with air pressure, so if this were a flat TT where virtually all power goes into overcoming drag, we'd expect to see a 5% difference, which at 50 kph means going 2.5 km slower.  For an hour record in a velodrome, power lost will mostly be split between overcoming air resistance and accelerating himself round the corners - I don't know the split, but if it's a portion of a 2.5 km pie, 1 km sounds eminently feasible.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Jaded on 06 June, 2015, 08:04:36 pm
Surely with the airlock doors at the Olympic velodrome they can just get a good vacuum pump in there.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 June, 2015, 01:45:08 pm
I am told that there is a network of tunnels under Norwich which might be partially evacuated for record attempts though as they're only about 3' in diameter they'd only be of use to the Dark Side siblinghood.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Pancho on 07 June, 2015, 06:24:20 pm
Where do I "tune in" for the best commentary[1]? I've found Pick TV on the idiot box and the Telegraph has a commentary.

[1] Surely everyone grew up watching test matches on the TV but listening to the commentary on the wireless. Everyone apart from my wife - who thought it bizarre.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: andyoxon on 07 June, 2015, 06:25:18 pm
PICK also appears to be on Freesat.

Lose the beard, Brad - the drag could make all the difference.

The speed beard is no more...
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Aunt Maud on 07 June, 2015, 06:32:07 pm
UCI on Youtube seems good.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: αdαmsκι on 07 June, 2015, 06:34:27 pm
UCI Youtube isn't working in East London

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that."

Thanks UCI.

(I do have it on Pick, but was hoping UCI had some timings.)
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Pancho on 07 June, 2015, 06:36:32 pm
Listening to the Telegraph, I at least heard the start! The TV was on an ad break when Wiggo got an early start.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2015, 06:40:56 pm
Help please.
I'm putting ICU into YouTube and not finding anything I'd expect.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: αdαmsκι on 07 June, 2015, 06:41:31 pm
No average speed so time for the spreadsheet to quickly calculate the average speed.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Andrij on 07 June, 2015, 06:45:15 pm
UCI feed is working in this bit of East London, but I'm running 'YouTube Unblocker' on FF.

I'm kinda surprised at his gearing: 58-18;  I had expected something a bit higher.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Aunt Maud on 07 June, 2015, 06:45:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgL3ByqBVo

That's a shame if it doesn't work, it's a great picture on a 27" iMac.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2015, 06:47:40 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgL3ByqBVo

That's a shame if it doesn't work, it's a great picture on a 27" iMac.

Not available in your country'
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: eeymsmo on 07 June, 2015, 06:51:40 pm
Depending on your ethics, this link may be of use - http://www.steephill.tv/classics/cycling-hour-record/#live
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Aunt Maud on 07 June, 2015, 06:55:22 pm
He's starting to wander a bit.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: αdαmsκι on 07 June, 2015, 06:56:33 pm
This is fast. Too fast? Hopefully it won't be like Bobridge's attempt.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Pancho on 07 June, 2015, 06:58:36 pm
Amazed that weather and air pressure makes a difference. They're saying it can change the result by something in the region of 500 metres.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2015, 06:59:03 pm
OK. I've managed to get the pub TV tuned to pick.  I'm not allowed volume though.  So I'm relying on you guys for commentary.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: TimC on 07 June, 2015, 06:59:10 pm
Amazing stillness, concentration and consistency. Despite the high pressure, I think he's got this. 54.8 would be my guess.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Pancho on 07 June, 2015, 07:00:27 pm
OK. I've managed to get the pub TV tuned to pick.  I'm not allowed volume though.  So I'm relying on you guys for commentary.

Well, it's a very small peloton and no one's made a break or an attack yet.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Aunt Maud on 07 June, 2015, 07:02:05 pm
He's velcro'd to the saddle........no farting.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Deano on 07 June, 2015, 07:03:22 pm
OK. I've managed to get the pub TV tuned to pick.  I'm not allowed volume though.  So I'm relying on you guys for commentary.

Lucky devil. The commentator's a right wanker.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: woollypigs on 07 June, 2015, 07:03:30 pm
OK. I've managed to get the pub TV tuned to pick.  I'm not allowed volume though.  So I'm relying on you guys for commentary.

Well, it's a very small peloton and no one's made a break or an attack yet.
muhahahah!
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2015, 07:06:40 pm
Every one in the pub is giving me wtf? looks. Don't care.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: αdαmsκι on 07 June, 2015, 07:07:06 pm
How much further would he have gone had he stuck to that black line?
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Pancho on 07 June, 2015, 07:07:28 pm
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03332/cycling_graph_3332980b.jpg)
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2015, 07:15:32 pm
To save me searching.  What's the target?
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Veloman on 07 June, 2015, 07:17:44 pm
60 mins.

No more.

No less.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2015, 07:19:11 pm
 ::-)
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: αdαmsκι on 07 June, 2015, 07:24:02 pm
Dowsett did 211 laps
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: StuAff on 07 June, 2015, 07:31:05 pm
54.526  :D
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: TimC on 07 June, 2015, 07:37:51 pm
Well done Bradley!
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Veloman on 07 June, 2015, 07:54:52 pm
A nice Palmaris, but PBP, Essex SR and BCM missing, perhaps we will see him put this oversight to bed in the future!
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: mzjo on 07 June, 2015, 08:57:45 pm
Only caught the last 30 mins on Eurosport, he looked to be on the limit in the last 10 mins. Well done Brad, 55 would have been nice but 54.5 will keep the others thinking for a while, especially with the obvious pain to do it.
A very interesting special "Les Rois de la Pédale" just after the record with Roger Legeay as a guest, discussing who might go after Brad, talking about his career and in passing wondering why Chris Froome doesn't have the same charisma. Legeay brought up the old potatoe of the machines not being the same for Merckx and Brad, thus putting the record out of reach of the non-specialist trackies and clm riders. Funny but no-one makes the same arguement with Lucien Petit-Breton (who also raced track and road). I can already hear the cries "Record deleted; no doping controls, machine not UCI approved! Come back next year please!". A nice touch was the footage of Peter Kennaugh winning today's stage of the Criterium, along with the talk about UK cycling - no mention of Cav in the charisma stakes though, although he probably gets more regular airtime than any other Brit rider on the continent.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Vince on 07 June, 2015, 09:16:37 pm
A nice Palmaris, but PBP, Essex SR and BCM missing, perhaps we will see him put this oversight to bed in the future!
Do you think he could win PBP against the Audax specialists?
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Veloman on 07 June, 2015, 09:18:10 pm
A nice Palmaris, but PBP, Essex SR and BCM missing, perhaps we will see him put this oversight to bed in the future!
Do you think he could win PBP against the Audax specialists?

Win?

Thought it was audax and not a race.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 07 June, 2015, 09:47:52 pm
Yes, no doubt. Any of the pros would be faster. Jock Boyer won RAAM the same year as leading out Davis Phinney for Giro de Italia bunch sprints.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Jaded on 07 June, 2015, 11:46:00 pm
Is this an old man's record?

Partly because of the mental stuff needed for it and partly because the preparation and recovery would eat into a money-earning Pro's schedule.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 08 June, 2015, 12:32:48 am
Indurain was 30 when he took the record in 1994, and won the Tour de France for the fifth time the following year.
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Jaded on 08 June, 2015, 12:35:23 am
So who is the youngest to hold the record?
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: mattc on 08 June, 2015, 06:56:04 am
Talking of old men ...

Who was the rather tanned VIP hugging Brad after Big Mig?

(the wholy hopeless Sky commentators were totally silent at this point  :facepalm:

If this was intended as a teaser to sell Sky Sports, it did nothing for me.)
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: trekker12 on 08 June, 2015, 09:00:47 am
Is this an old man's record?

Partly because of the mental stuff needed for it and partly because the preparation and recovery would eat into a money-earning Pro's schedule.

Alex Dowsett is 26 so it doesn't have to be an old mans record. It seems to be something typically done to crown a career but he found a way of fitting it into his pro schedule with no ill effects (well none we know of but he hasn't raced much this year since).
Title: Re: Wiggo's hour on freeview
Post by: Veloman on 08 June, 2015, 09:08:50 am
Perhaps, rather like Grand Tour winners, the body needs to have gained a little resilience and development and that is why the record is attempted by those the other side of 25yrs.