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clarion

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #25 on: 25 August, 2015, 02:06:55 pm »
It's getting silly.
Getting there...

Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #26 on: 25 August, 2015, 02:14:22 pm »
It's professional bike racing. It's been silly for decades.

Riggers

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #27 on: 25 August, 2015, 03:40:54 pm »
Vejer de la Frontera finish. Well, I got it wrong . . . they're gonna go up the narrow twisty-turny-bugger of a hill. It won't allow much attacking, and then it'll be a hell-for-leather finish!! Can't wait for the highlights tonight!
Certainly never seen cycling south of Sussex

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #28 on: 25 August, 2015, 08:25:56 pm »
My favourite:


Gotta admire the power of those riders to push the cars like that.
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Riggers

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #29 on: 26 August, 2015, 08:31:09 am »
Naughty chaps.

There was no ITV4 on last night (or NOT on our telly!) so I don't suppose anyone knows if a video/highlights exist elsewhere that can be accessed by computer? This is the one I was really really interested in watching because of our Vejer connection!! Typical isn't it!!!!!
Certainly never seen cycling south of Sussex

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« Reply #30 on: 26 August, 2015, 08:37:49 am »
Last night ITV4 wasn't working on our TV. A rescan got it working, but by the time I'd managed to figure out that manoeuvre I'd missed the first 15 minutes of the programme.
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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #31 on: 26 August, 2015, 08:39:36 am »
Naughty chaps.

There was no ITV4 on last night (or NOT on our telly!) so I don't suppose anyone knows if a video/highlights exist elsewhere that can be accessed by computer? This is the one I was really really interested in watching because of our Vejer connection!! Typical isn't it!!!!!

https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/cycling-la-vuelta-a-espana/series-6/episode-4


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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #32 on: 26 August, 2015, 08:50:15 am »
Cheers Slim. Also found this:

http://www.steephill.tv/vuelta-a-espana/

You have to scroll down to:
17 Km of Stage 4 (24:34 English) — eurosport

You cannot believe how steep that hill they took is (and the heat too), nor how steep another section is, where they're out the saddle. Would have been so exciting to have seen it live.
Certainly never seen cycling south of Sussex

Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #33 on: 26 August, 2015, 10:02:44 am »
Last night ITV4 wasn't working on our TV. A rescan got it working, but by the time I'd managed to figure out that manoeuvre I'd missed the first 15 minutes of the programme.

Ah - need to check that when I get home tonight - I tried to set it for the late night highlights but if they've moved the bloody channel I'll need to rescan (and spend ages resetting all my recording series links!) Oh, and deleting all the soft porn and shopping channels too  >:(.

ITV4 will move to the same frequency as the main standard definition ITV service, meaning it will become available in those areas that only have access to a limited line-up of Freeview channels, giving ITV4 a coverage boost to reach around 98.5% of households in the UK.




"When do the changes take place?

According to ITV, the change is due to happen around midday, Tuesday 25th August.

What do Freeview users need to do?

•Freeview viewers who already receive ITV4 will need to retune in order to continue receiving ITV4. If you have recordings set up, you will need to re-programme them for the "new" ITV4.
•Freeview viewers who don't have ITV4 will need to retune in order to add ITV4 to their channel list. ITV4 will appear on channel 24.
(A small number of Freeview receivers may automatically make the changes. The changes also affect YouView users.)"
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mcshroom

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #34 on: 26 August, 2015, 10:15:48 am »
Which means I can get ITV4 on Freeview again. :)

It got shuffled off our repeater mast in 2009 when they added Channel 5 and some HD channels (why you need to use up limited bandwidth brodcasting a station in SD & HD, when other SD channels don't fit I don't know).
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« Reply #35 on: 26 August, 2015, 11:08:09 am »
I guess I'll have to brave ITV player this evening to see last nights coverage.
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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #36 on: 28 August, 2015, 07:53:34 am »
Fun fact: Esteban Chaves is older than Nairo Quintana (despite looking about 30 years younger).

David Martin

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #37 on: 28 August, 2015, 08:51:22 am »
But Quintana isn't liekly to be drawing his pension any time soon..They are both eligible for the young rider category.
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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #39 on: 28 August, 2015, 07:57:26 pm »
So Millar says with 8k to go that the breakaway don't have a chance - "100% not the slightest hope, believe me".  I'm finding his overly-detailed insider-style analysis of the race slightly irritating.
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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #40 on: 30 August, 2015, 11:47:34 am »
I think the operative word for yesterday's stage is 'carnage'...  :o

Lotto-Soudal rider Kris Boeckmans is in a medically induced coma after sustaining serious injuries in a crash - he was apparently taking a drink from his bidon when he hit a hole in the road and crashed hard.

Boeckmans' crash set off a chain-reaction that also involved Tejay van Garderen, Daniel Martin and Nacer Bouhanni, all of whom abandoned the race. Jasper Stuyven, who was also caught up in the crash, went on to win the stage, but it turns out that he sustained a fractured left scaphoid in the crash, and has had to abandon as well. Race leader Esteban Chaves was caught up in the crash, but his injuries were superficial.

And to put the tin lid on it all, Peter Sagan was taken out by a neutral service motorbike, suffered some spectacular road rash/friction burns and to add insult to injury, was fined 300 Swiss Francs because his (quite understandable) sense of humour failure was deemed to be "behaviour that damages the image of cycling". Sagan has also abandoned.
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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #41 on: 01 September, 2015, 06:56:36 am »
So Millar says with 8k to go that the breakaway don't have a chance - "100% not the slightest hope, believe me".  I'm finding his overly-detailed insider-style analysis of the race slightly irritating.
That's a shame, I really like it. Nice to have a genuinely expert expert for once! (and he can actually speak clear Engllish). time will tell - by next year we might have heard the same insights over and over.

He's probably having to do too much as Ned (who I love) isnt a natural commentator. Maybe he'll grow into it, you never know. But overall they are one of the best commentary teams on telly in 2015.
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the whole tour has been pretty carnage-packed. Certainly enjoyable to watch (if not ride!).

I feel really sorry for Sagan. I do wonder if his injuries werent the reason for 'abandon' - he was just too pissed, it took his heart out of the race. (he had to be favourite to win that stage).

Its almost surprising there arent more moto crashes. The camera bikes are a key part of the race - we wouldnt watch it without them, then no sponsors, no riders' salaries ...
So its not right to call them "unnecessary" crashes, but if a rider error takes down 20 others, forcing 3 out of the race, it's "just racing".
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David Martin

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #42 on: 01 September, 2015, 10:42:12 am »
It isn't *necessary* to have a camera moto (or support moto) in such close proximity. They always have the option of dropping back etc.
Their prime directive is 'first do no harm'. I think we are starting to see more and closer TV, and a new generation of moto pilots who do not have the experience (and directors pushing for ever closer footage) leading to more incidents.
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Karla

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #43 on: 01 September, 2015, 12:16:50 pm »
So after most of my fantasy team crashed out in the Tour, this time I picked Peter Sagan and Tejay Van Garderen as two of my main contenders  :facepalm:

Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #44 on: 02 September, 2015, 09:23:20 pm »
And Sky picked Froome.

He looked in a very bad way after the stage.  I wonder if it's a hip injury.  I further wonder if he keeps coming off (and he seems to be more error-prone than most elite riders) is because he spends so little time looking where he is going?

David Martin

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #45 on: 02 September, 2015, 09:27:00 pm »
 I don't think he is more error prone, and today was unlucky. Looked like a crocked knee.

Dodgems with the motors again. Looks like the TVE director has dictated wide angles and getting close to the cameramen and they were far too close. Is the demand for live pictures putting riders at greater risk.
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LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #46 on: 02 September, 2015, 09:31:45 pm »
He does fall off a lot and was particularly known for it as a neo-pro.
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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #47 on: 02 September, 2015, 09:59:34 pm »
Dave, I know it gets joked about a lot but have you any idea what he is doing when he keeps looking down?  Is it a wattage read out or just a Paula Radcliffe-type thing?  Whatever it is, it must be a bad thing to be coninually taking your eye "off the ball" like that.  OK, so he has won  the TdeF a couple of times, but, Hell, most people have done that.....

He's a fascinating and very talented rider but elegant he ain't.  Bit of an enigma.

Dibdib

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Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #48 on: 02 September, 2015, 11:28:56 pm »
My hunch is that his frooming is a wattage readout but I don't think he's particularly worse at staying upright than the rest of the peloton. I haven't seen today's stage but the last few Grand Tours have been noticeable for crashes and incidents and he's had plenty of company in the medical bay.

Definitely agree on the lack of elegance though. Effective for sure but he looks like a spider pushing s shopping trolley.

Re: TdF has cobbles, Giro has Strada Bianchi, Vuelta has...
« Reply #49 on: 03 September, 2015, 07:53:44 am »
Hope things are looking better for Kris Boeckmans soon.   
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