Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: Sky Sports Team on 26 February, 2009, 08:52:39 am
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We know you’re passionate about cycling and we wanted you to be amongst the first to know about the creation of a professional British road cycling team - Team Sky.
Team Sky hopes to create the first British winner of the Tour De France within the next five years and inspire more people, to get on their bikes and enjoy the positive benefits of cycling.
Competing from the start of 2010, Team Sky will have a core of British riders, coaches and support staff and will be managed by David Brailsford who, as you know, led Britain’s Olympic team to its inspiring 14 medal haul.
Team Sky is just part of Sky’s commitment to cycling, as a Principal Partner of British Cycling we’re looking to fuel the sport from grass roots to professional level. We are also developing more inspiring events, like last year’s Sky Sports London Freewheel, to make cycling fun, easy and accessible to all.
We look forward to hearing what you have to say and if you want us to, we’ll be happy to come back and update you on any new developments.
Thanks
Sky Sports Team
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Can I ask that you insist the team wear beards please.
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And sandals! :thumbsup:
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Is this bloke the team mechanic?
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/3093120016_c55ffe4fae_o.jpg)
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Can I suggest pickled eggs form part of your rider's nutritional plan? As far as I am aware pickled eggs contain no banned substances but you had better check that fart power is legal.
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Will you be insisting that the cycling takes the form of two opposing teams of 11 cyclists, each attempting to cycle a ball into the a goal defended by the other team?
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Oh very good news, but we must insist that the team attire should be in sober colours, made of alpaca wool, tweed and linen; that lady riders be modestly, although rationally, attired. We would consider merino wool a suitable alternative to alpaca wool and it would be jolly nice if the team members wore a Union Flag in the lapels of their Norfolk jackets when competing.
Can't be doing with this modern stretchy stuff, it's got no moral fibre.
That's the way to show Johnny Foreigner how to bicycle properly.
*cough*
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Come on! This is unfair, you lot. You know roadies don't have a sense of humour.
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Will there be any coverage on free to air tv?
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I think the YACF audax club have nothing to fear from Team Sky, they won't be challenging us with regards to audax points ;D
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I think you're all being very unfair on Sky Sports Team.
She's come on here, full of enthusiasm and commitment to our sport and what do you lot do? Mock her with questions about beards, tweed and picked eggs. As if she'd understand the subtleties of all our in-jokes.
Don't we have a culture of being welcoming and inclusive for new members?
I'm shocked and appalled at your behaviour, boys and girls. See me afterwards.
[/tonguecheek]
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We know you’re passionate about cycling and we wanted you to be amongst the first to know about the creation of a professional British road cycling team - Team Sky.
Up yer arse!
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I'm all for extra money being pumped into Cycling, wherever it comes from (within limits, I don't think I'd want to support Team British National Front :-\). Anything which increases the public's enthusiasm for cycling has to be a good thing.
On the other hand, quoting the London Freewheel last year as being an indicator of Sky's commitment is pushing things, when it wasn't half as good as the previous year. :-\
Sorry about actually replying sensibly, I'll let normality and chaos reign again. ;D
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to make cycling fun, easy and accessible to all
Ah good.
I've been hating it up to now.
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Glad to see Sky Sports Team has taken the time to become acquainted with this forum and engage with others.
Of course, if they hadn't done that, and just posted a press release & dashed off to another forum who they 'wanted to be amongst the first to know', then they might be regarded as a Spammer, and be fair game.
And we don't want anyone making that mistake, do we?
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This reminds me so much of my school days:
Now children, today this nice gentleman/lady has come to talk to us about cycling safety/drugs/world poverty etc. and I want you all to be on your best behaviour and listen carefully. At the end you will be able to ask questions and we will have a discussion.
Cue outrageously bad behaviour and a stream of very silly questions full of smut and innuendo. Much giggling and throwing of paper air planes and one very embarrassed teacher.
Carry on.
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Now now, if this kind of irreverence carries on, then Sky Sports Team might get huffy and decide not to let us know about any future developments with their team.
That would make us all sad, wouldn't it?
Well?
Wouldn't it?
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Well yes. I suppose we would be upset. After all it's not as if the BBC or the Guardian would be able to inform us of these developments is it?
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.... or indeed any of the cycling news websites or mags that have been reporting this story for months.
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If the TdF goes to Sky, and I miss out on my yearly dose of Phil Liggett there's going to be hell to pay!*
*Just remembers that I have Sky Sports, the rest of you paupers can get bent ;D
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Wow, I'm impressed that they consider this forum worthy of their attentions*.
You may have noticed, but this forum isn't really the racing orientated type that you may expect it to be. TBH, it's barely even a cycling forum! ;)
*Although a small part of me suspects that the person posting was already a member here and wanted a reason to post from work!
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Team Sky hopes to create the first British winner of the Tour De France within the next five years and inspire more people, to get on their bikes and enjoy the positive benefits of cycling.
Competing from the start of 2010, Team Sky will have a core of British riders, coaches and support staff and will be managed by David Brailsford who, as you know, led Britain’s Olympic team to its inspiring 14 medal haul.
Can I be the first to give you a proper reply? Yes? Excellent!
There have been persistent reports of people associated with "British Cycling" wanting to make a team that is in a sense "team GB on the road"
If this is that idea made concrete then good for you!
I must admit though when I first heard the idea ( a british winner of the TdF in a few years ) my first reaction of one of skeptism. Despite Dave Brailsfords epic achievements on the track one wonders where the world class road riders are going to come from. In particular, who would be the GC hope? Athletes of that sort are even rarer than Sir Chris or Mr Wiggins. And Nicol Cooke isn't going to have an op to get her on the mens team :)
Another point is that you can have the best team in the world but victory at the TdF can ellude you. Arguablely CSC were this over the past few years but it took until last year for them to finally win
linky
Tour de France - New team sets Tour victory target - Yahoo! Eurosport UK
(http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/26022009/58/tour-de-france-new-team-sets-tour-victory-target.html)
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Team Sky
Cycling is a very broad church. To some it is a means of commuting or going to the shops, to others a chance to get some quality time with the family in the park. Some use it as an adventure - a ride accross Iran or around the World, while others do it to get/stay fit instead of going to the gym, and of course there are many armchair cyclists.
I'm sure most club cyclists will welcome Sky's involvement in the sport. There can be little doubt - after our Olympic success - that cash brings about success. With that success comes more interest in and better acceptance of cycling (many of us noticed the (short lived) improvement in driver behaviour towards us, following Team GBs success). I hope Sky's involvement will bring benefits to cycling as a whole.
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And sandals! :thumbsup:
Oh, please no! What next, a beard?!
Ignore them Mr or Ms. Sky Team. Well done indeed and welcome.
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If Rupert Murdoch thinks cycling is a good thing, I might have to sell my bike. :-\
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If Rupert Murdoch thinks cycling is a good thing, I might have to sell my bike. :-\
+1
He's generally been wrong on every other topic.
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I think you're all being very unfair on Sky Sports Team.
She's come on here, full of enthusiasm and commitment to our sport and what do you lot do? Mock her with questions about beards, tweed and picked eggs. As if she'd understand the subtleties of all our in-jokes.
Don't we have a culture of being welcoming and inclusive for new members?
I'm shocked and appalled at your behaviour, boys and girls. See me afterwards.
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I for one was only trying to help. Perish the thought that I was taking the pi55!
The best piece of cycling kit I have bought recently is a kick stand. I commend this simple but effective item to Sky's brave attempt to conquer the Tour de France.
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You lot give cycling a bad name.
Oh lets not be conventional, we're wacky we are, just crazy.
Let's hope cycling doesn't become too mainstream or you'll have to find something else to obsess over.
Cheers!
Julian
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Medication time, Julian!
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You lot give cycling a bad name.
Oh lets not be conventional, we're wacky we are, just crazy.
Let's hope cycling doesn't become too mainstream or you'll have to find something else to obsess over.
Cheers!
Julian
Thank you for pointing out the error of our ways. I will thoroughly rethink my life. *chastised*
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Ah, conventional. My favourite.
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If Rupert Murdoch thinks cycling is a good thing, I might have to sell my bike. :-\
Quite.
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You lot give cycling a bad name.
Oh lets not be conventional, we're wacky we are, just crazy.
Let's hope cycling doesn't become too mainstream or you'll have to find something else to obsess over.
Cheers!
Julian
Come on! This is unfair, you lot. You know roadies don't have a sense of humour.
So true, Ian, so true. ;D
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By pure coincidence, I have just received the RCUK newsletter which features this 'press release'. It made me re-read it and ponder just what does Sky get out of "and inspire more people, to get on their bikes and enjoy the positive benefits of cycling.
Is there any possibility, no matter how unlikely, that somebody, somewhere, high up in The Sky, as it were, is actually pro cycling? Or am I just too naive for words?
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I think they want us to buy subscriptions to their tellyboxadaptordishes so we can watch their new bicycular team.
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I think they want us to buy subscriptions to their tellyboxadaptordishes so we can watch their new bicycular team.
OK, I'm too naive for words.
What are tellyboxadaptordishes? Are you suggesting that there are more than two TV channels? If so, will they offer higher quality programmes than those offered by the Beeb? This sounds like an exciting development. I had better sign up for their newsletter.
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I think, with Sir Chris and Ms Pendleton (rubs thighs) doing the honours in
Peking Beijing, it is perceived among the higher echelons of News International that there may be an emergent TV sport to which they don't own the rights. Best get in there, then.
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I think, with Sir Chris and Ms Pendleton (rubs thighs) doing the honours in Peking Beijing, it is perceived among the higher echelons of News International that there may be an emergent TV sport to which they don't own the rights. Best get in there, then.
Maybe I should be happy. Perhaps one day I will be able to lean on the bar and join in the blokey sports conversation about cycling rather than nodding vaguely at references to football and horse racing that leave me cold.
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OK, I'm too naive for words.
What are tellyboxadaptordishes? Are you suggesting that there are more than two TV channels? If so, will they offer higher quality programmes than those offered by the Beeb? This sounds like an exciting development. I had better sign up for their newsletter.
Rather than purchasing such an appliance, you could try wrapping your head in tinfoil and adding a wire coathanger to the top of it. This will beam the pictures straight into your brain.
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I shall just check whether I feel like lining Mr Murdoch's ample pockets by purchasing an idiot lantern and access to a multiplicity of moronity.
No. We're fine as we are :thumbsup:
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I don't subscribe to Sky. Does that mean my chances of getting onto the team are reduced?
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Am I the only one that thinks watching cycling on TV is fantastically, amazingly, unbelievably dull?
A daily 10 minutes of TdF/Giro/Vuelta highlights for the crashes, sprints and results and I'm happy. Eurosport is great for this. I have Sky for the Football, Rugby and Cricket.
Mind you, there's nothing wrong with giving that lot (the cyclists) a boat load of cash through sponsorship.
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How can this thread be taken seriously when the very first avatar after the new postee did her stuff, is a monkey boy ;D ;D ??
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I think, with Sir Chris and Ms Pendleton (rubs thighs) doing the honours in Peking Beijing, it is perceived among the higher echelons of News International that there may be an emergent TV sport to which they don't own the rights. Best get in there, then.
Maybe I should be happy. Perhaps one day I will be able to lean on the bar and join in the blokey sports conversation about cycling rather than nodding vaguely at references to football and horse racing that leave me cold.
Oh yes - Plus one
:thumbsup:
PS - this thread has provided me more entertainment than sky did in total the year or so we subscribed.
First class - well done to the OP, and I didn't even have to pay £40 for the privilege.
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I think they want us to buy subscriptions to their tellyboxadaptordishes so we can watch their new bicycular team.
If that is the case then I'll simply stop watching. If it's not free to view then I either go there and watch it in person, listen on the radio, watch it on a free online stream or simply read about it after the event. I'm certainly not going to pay for it. Ever. and by ever I mean not even if Ms Pendleton ***** ***** ***** (censored)
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PS - this thread has provided me more entertainment than sky did in total the year or so we subscribed.
First class - well done to the OP, and I didn't even have to pay £40 for the privilege.
Ah - you didn't realise that, by posting, you've accepted the terms & conditions, and your free trial period in this thread ended six hours ago. You are now being billed on a pay-per-view basis.
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So cough up or Roger and I will be round with Mr Larrington's shovel :D
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Interestingly (well only slightly) they posted into CycleChat with exactly the same post, although for some bizarre reason posted it in the Touring and Expedition forum first. I don't subscribe to that many cycling forums, how many others can people spot?
<wonders about publishing the Eye Spy Book of Sky Sports Team Posts>
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I don't subscribe to Sky. Does that mean my chances of getting onto the team are reduced?
We're no longer on Sky. Will Freeview enter the cycling arena and what will be their objective I wonder?
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I for one was only trying to help. Perish the thought that I was taking the pi55!
The best piece of cycling kit I have bought recently is a kick stand. I commend this simple but effective item to Sky's brave attempt to conquer the Tour de France.
Ha! - don't listen to him - I reckon he's on commission from the International Consortium of Kickstand Manufacturers and Unipod Fitters and Fettlers (ICKMUFF). Tried to sell me one for my Felt last time I rode with him!
OTOH, if Sky/British Cycling/Chris Boardman got their collective nous together and produced an aerodynamic, carbon fibre/titanium, UCI-legal kickstand I guess the sport would benefit greatly. Can I have one in "Liquid Grey" please?
OD's advice on bottle cage alternatives should be fine, unless the TdF plans to incorporate cattle grids.
HTH
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I for one was only trying to help. Perish the thought that I was taking the pi55!
The best piece of cycling kit I have bought recently is a kick stand. I commend this simple but effective item to Sky's brave attempt to conquer the Tour de France.
Ha! - don't listen to him - I reckon he's on commission from the International Consortium of Kickstand Manufacturers and Unipod Fitters and Fettlers (ICKMUFF). Tried to sell me one for my Felt last time I rode with him!
OTOH, if Sky/British Cycling/Chris Boardman got their collective nous together and produced an aerodynamic, carbon fibre/titanium, UCI-legal kickstand I guess the sport would benefit greatly. Can I have one in "Liquid Grey" please?
OD's advice on bottle cage alternatives should be fine, unless the TdF plans to incorporate cattle grids.
HTH
Git :P ;D
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I don't subscribe to Sky. Does that mean my chances of getting onto the team are reduced?
We're no longer on Sky. Will Freeview enter the cycling arena and what will be their objective I wonder?
Ah, yes. In fact, I think they already announced their provisional European British cycling super-team via Eurosport last Saturday at 21CET. But it may have been rescheduled to 15CET. Or 22UTC. Or the announcement may have been dropped in view of the Lower Saxony Tiddlywinks Team record attempt on drinking pilsner through the instruments of their local Oompah band reaching a crucial and unmissable climax as Gerhardt dropped the final bottle with just 5 seconds to go.
Anyway, it would seem that Freeview have secured a 5-minute equipment deal with Sterling House, with team kit to be provided by Aldi (certain Thursdays only) and Lidl (certain Saturdays only), nutrition by Haribo and team transport coming from Dave's Cabs (We Sometimes Have Breakdown Cover!!!). The team management is rumoured to be the same outfit that have made such a good job with TV star Postman Pat's attempt at the Race Across America (RHFMdeBQ, as it's known at Eurosport QH). The team's first rider signing was due to be confirmed today, but someone lost the bit of paper with the bloke's name on.
Very soon, there will be a trailer about a completely different subject which will be no help at all, despite what it says in all the TV guides. Chapeau and Allez Freeview!!!
Objective? What's one of those?
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And if the Freeview Team cycles thru our area their wireless bike computers will need signal boosters cos we're a bit too far from Sudbury ::-)
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Can't do any rides that go through Calderdale. But then, by that token, neither could Sky.
Anyway, someone must get excited at the prospect of cutting away from the sprint finish after the long breakaway to see a recording of Tractor Pulling... :-\
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Am I the only one that thinks watching cycling on TV is fantastically, amazingly, unbelievably dull?
A daily 10 minutes of TdF/Giro/Vuelta highlights for the crashes, sprints and results and I'm happy. Eurosport is great for this. I have Sky for the Football, Rugby and Cricket.
Mind you, there's nothing wrong with giving that lot (the cyclists) a boat load of cash through sponsorship.
A day of the TdF is just like a day of cricket. The fact that you have endured hours of tedium only sharpens the taste of the brief but crucial moment of excitement.
Watching the peloton thunder past the breakaway that has hung on for 149.75 kilometres only to be cruelly captured in the finishing straight. Seeing the attack after attack on the yellow jersey until he cracks or responds in kind. It might happen once a day if you're lucky or a few times in a grand tour.
"The look" that Armstrong gave to Ullrich lives with me because I spent the day watching and was rewarded with that glorious moment. I didn't need to be told about it, I saw it.
Is watching a succession of wickets and a few boundaries the same as watching a day of test cricket - seeing the batsmen digging in, the tiring bowlers, the field changes seeking an advantage, the vital breakthrough or the flagging spirit.
Track cycling with the power of a sprint or the precision of a team and instant, identifiable results works well on TV and is probably more accessible for the non-aficionado, just as one-day or 20-20 cricket is.
On a more serious note regarding the OP I think well done to Sky for supporting it. The thing I most admire about it is their ambition in stating they want a British rider to win the tour in 5 years. Sport in the UK suffers from a lack of ambition - there is too much feeling that if you've tried your best then that's OK.
Clearly cycling under Dave Brailsford has jettisoned that mentality and many other sports would do well to learn from it, as would sport down to the grass roots level. At youth level in some sports - especially in schools - competitiveness and winning are regarded as dirty words and the rules are laid down not to give everyone an even chance but to handicap the very best.
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And they will probaly have the same success they had with Freewheel... ::-)
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On a more serious note regarding the OP I think well done to Sky for supporting it. The thing I most admire about it is their ambition in stating they want a British rider to win the tour in 5 years. Sport in the UK suffers from a lack of ambition - there is too much feeling that if you've tried your best then that's OK.
Clearly cycling under Dave Brailsford has jettisoned that mentality and many other sports would do well to learn from it, as would sport down to the grass roots level. At youth level in some sports - especially in schools - competitiveness and winning are regarded as dirty words and the rules are laid down not to give everyone an even chance but to handicap the very best.
Absolutely, but hardly in keeping with the spirit of the thread, hmmmm? ;)
No, good luck to the Sky Team and power to Dave Brailsford's elbow and all other bits, and I truly hope they succeed in their aims. Now, back to the merriment and trivial banter....
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I'm just waiting for Sky Sports Team to pop back and join in the discussion.
I'm particularly interested in their view on the carbon propstand issue above.
Perhaps they are consulting the Secret Squirrel boffins before giving a definitive answer...?
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Thank you ChrisO for talking some sense...
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Am I the only one that thinks watching cycling on TV is fantastically, amazingly, unbelievably dull?
A daily 10 minutes of TdF/Giro/Vuelta highlights for the crashes, sprints and results and I'm happy. Eurosport is great for this. I have Sky for the Football, Rugby and Cricket.
Mind you, there's nothing wrong with giving that lot (the cyclists) a boat load of cash through sponsorship.
I think the football is usually dull
Rugby is ok but I can't get excited about it
Cricket really is dull but I suppose that's what people want
Cycling on the other hand has tactics, personalities and crashes. And if that isn't enough some races ie the Giro have totally spendid scenary too.
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I'd expected there would be lots of cycling fans, who like watching it live on TV, on a cycling forum; and I don't deny there are many facets to it, just as there are to each and every other sport.
I was wondering if there were others like me who found it as dull as you [vorsprung] find watching cricket.
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Am I the only one that thinks watching cycling on TV is fantastically, amazingly, unbelievably dull?
Oddly enough I had this conversation recently while on jury service (by chance do separate classes meet). There was a semi-professional angler, who informed us that his sport is televised, much to the amusement of all present. He then cited cycling as the most utterly dull thing he'd ever watched on TV. I stayed very quite.
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Horse racing is the dullest "sport" on TV.
Seeing a bunch of dwarves sitting on ungulate mammals has me immediately reaching for the remote...
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You guys were never subjected to the annual Sydney to Hobart yacht race.
Starts on Boxing Day each year. And in Australia it's really, really hot then so all you want to do is sit inside and cool off after the excitement of Christmas. This is when I was a kid and we only had two channels where I lived (and thought we were lucky to have them).
So what's on telly - a bloody yacht race. Very rich people floating slow things a bit faster than other rich people.
The only thing worse was if for some reason they showed repeats of previous years. The most boring thing in the world, and you already know who's won.
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Road cycling on TV leaves me cold.
Track stuff is good.
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The dullest thing I have seen on tv by far is indoor bowls ,which is only marginally more boring than outdorr bowls whose excitement is beefed up by the possibility of a seagull crapping on someones head.I quite enjoy road racing on tv especially when it involves hilly stages and if sky move the coverage from Eurosport to Skysport I shal be very cross indeed.
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Of people who say they are interested in a particular sport, I wonder what percentage actually participate. Answer for a) football and b) cycling.
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Of people who say they are interested in a particular sport, I wonder what percentage actually participate. Answer for a) football and b) cycling.
It's amusing going to a football match and hearing people with a BMI in excess of 35, and a life expectancy of not much more, shouting "Run you fat lazy ****!" at professional players who run 10km during a 90 minute match.
I haven't played rugby since school but I'll happily watch it on TV or down at the local club (Rosslyn Park). I'm built like a winger but nowhere near fast enough which means I just get hurt.
A lot more rugby fans I see at matches look like they play, or used to play, the game. Compared to football at least.
I play cricket once or twice a year (limited overs stuff with beers and a laugh) but watch days of it (on TV and at Lord's, the Oval or, sometimes, a county match).
I play one round of golf a year and watch about the same on TV (bits of the Ryder Cup and Masters).
I play 5-a-side football once a week (in a competitive league) and 11-a-side a few times a year (when they're desperate for players). I watch about one match a week on TV. I go to about 5 matches a year (from Premiership to Conference).
I do a bit of cycling.
To answer your actual question. I'm guessing there's an order of magnitude difference between (a) and (b).
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MTB is one of those sports that just doesn't work on TV. If the camera could follow the riders it might be better.
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Bit surprised at the negativity here. Sky are putting a sizeable bunch of cash in to our sport at both a grass-roots and elite level and folks just want to be smart-arse about it.
British cynicism?
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I'm sure people can think of less savoury sponsors in the past.
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I'm sure people can think of less savoury sponsors in the past.
Stuff the past - you can't live on memories of the good old days of pro british racing teams. How about asking what other options are on the table right now?
..d
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Bit surprised at the negativity here. Sky are putting a sizeable bunch of cash in to our sport at both a grass-roots and elite level and folks just want to be smart-arse about it.
British cynicism?
Very surprised and disappointed here.
If one does not care about competitive cycling, one can ignore the "Racing" board and be "more constructive" elsewhere...
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I'm glad Sky is putting a load of money into a cycling team. No different to any other sponsor other than it might lead to more road racing on the telly :thumbsup:
Could do without the bullshit PR in the OP though.
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It's also not helped by the fact that clearly they've registered on multiple fora, purely for the purposes of posting exactly the same post, and then buggering off.
Both on here and CycleChat the last time the user visited was shortly after they posted the announcement.
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Indeed, TinO. I think that is what has sparked ire and mirth, rather than the content of their message.
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I'm sure people can think of less savoury sponsors in the past.
Some that were unsavoury, and some that went that way!
I almost ended up riding for Durex years ago (I was fine with that, but some team members were Catholics and were very unhappy with the prospect)
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Bit surprised at the negativity here. Sky are putting a sizeable bunch of cash in to our sport at both a grass-roots and elite level and folks just want to be smart-arse about it.
British cynicism?
Very surprised and disappointed here.
If one does not care about competitive cycling, one can ignore the "Racing" board and be "more constructive" elsewhere...
As one who has been "smart arsed" about this subject I would offer the following ...
Firstly, Did the thread start in Racing? I thought it was started in Rides and Touring?
Secondly, I think Sky's sponsorship is welcome, very welcome. I don't give a rat's bottom about racing but enjoy the TdF and would like to see GB do better.
Thirdly, yes, I think some British cnynasism is at work here. I can't see what's wrong with that. It should be possible to take the pi55 and be supportive at the same time.
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Well, we're going to get a chance to 'put up'. Team Sky have a block entry of 50 places in the Polka Dot Challenge. Anyone want to give them a try?
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Well, we're going to get a chance to 'put up'. Team Sky have a block entry of 50 places in the Polka Dot Challenge. Anyone want to give them a try?
Which isn't a race!
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I almost ended up riding for Durex years ago (I was fine with that, but some team members were Catholics and were very unhappy with the prospect)
What do they have against Australian adhesive tape? I can't find anything about that in the Bible.
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Well, we're going to get a chance to 'put up'. Team Sky have a block entry of 50 places in the Polka Dot Challenge. Anyone want to give them a try?
Which isn't a race!
Could be, if we wanted it to be? YACF audaxers versus Team Sky?
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I almost ended up riding for Durex years ago (I was fine with that, but some team members were Catholics and were very unhappy with the prospect)
What do they have against Australian adhesive tape? I can't find anything about that in the Bible.
You are actually very near reality! At the time London Rubber Company (Durex) sponsored a motor racing team. The sponsorship was not allowed in Ireland, and was transferred for the week to an Irish brick company called --- Durex!
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Oh dear (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/mar/03/cycling-mark-cavendish), Cav has said, in fairly strong terms, that he's just not interested in the Sky offer.
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Ah well theres plenty of other good riders.
Its good that Sky are sponsoring a team... so long as you can still watch TdF etc on freeview. And getting a British rider to win the TdF would be great if a little far fetched en ce moment.
God forbid they take cyling off freeview. How else would those who dont find it incredibly dull get their fix??
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Oh dear (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/mar/03/cycling-mark-cavendish), Cav has said, in fairly strong terms, that he's just not interested in the Sky offer.
Lots can change in 2 years. At present Cav has everything he wants/needs from a team, as long as that continues he's not likely to want a change, but who knows what will happen?
BTW I think it's a good thing, he'd cost a lot and is pretty high maintenance, which you don't need at startup time. Chance for others to develop and shine.
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God forbid they take cyling off freeview. How else would those who dont find it incredibly dull get their fix??
ITV are losing money at the moment, as was all over the news yesterday.
Hopefully their Phil'n'Paul show for the TdF won't be one of the casualties of the money saving exercise.
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Well, I'm all for a Team GB attempt at the TdF. If it is sponsored by Sky, who cares. As long as it is sponsored and funded by someone who doesn't do a runner like the new pro team a few years ago that signed a number of top riders and staff then suddenly stopped playing.
The team will get my support.
Well done Sky :thumbsup:
BTW Sky, as you read this thread (if you read it), you may well come to the conclusion that many folk here are complete arses. Well, fear not. Stick with us and you will soon realise- you were right- they ARE arses- and we love them for it :-*
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BTW Sky, as you read this thread (if you read it) ...
Don't hold your breath, the last time the user was active was "2009-02-26T09:30:30Z", half an hour or so after they posted the OP.
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Why would you want Cav in a team whose stated ambition is to win the TdF ?
Have any of the great sprinters of recent years ridden for podium-chasing teams ? McEwen, Hushovd, Boonen, Cipollini, Petacchi. Only Zabel who was on Telekom.
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Bit surprised at the negativity here. Sky are putting a sizeable bunch of cash in to our sport at both a grass-roots and elite level and folks just want to be smart-arse about it.
British cynicism?
+1 any one sticking cash in to British Road racing can't be all bad, plus Dave Brailsford should be a good influence. :thumbsup:
Save the piss taking for people who have settled in "Eh peeps" ;D
PS does this mean we get discount on SKY + ;)
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Bit surprised at the negativity here. Sky are putting a sizeable bunch of cash in to our sport at both a grass-roots and elite level and folks just want to be smart-arse about it.
British cynicism?
+1 any one sticking cash in to British Road racing can't be all bad, plus Dave Brailsford should be a good influence. :thumbsup:
Save the piss taking for people who have settled in "Eh peeps" ;D
PS does this mean we get discount on SKY + ;)
I don't think cynicism is the right word. I liken it to the "why don't you post something about cycling" posts.
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(Ahem)
Bump! We have exalted company within our numbers.
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Beat me to it LindaG- I was looking for this thread to remind myself exactly what the original stated aims were :thumbsup:
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(Ahem)
Bump! We have exalted company within our numbers.
Brad posting from his mobile? Dave Millar tweeting YACF TT info? Cav giving directional advice in Audax?
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After expending so much energy in the Pyrénées the cry has finally been made ...
"We need pickled eggs and we need them now!"
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And of course, Lance's famous corner cutting (different team, I know, but same game) was obviously inspired by the Thursday Night Pubbe Runs and their COR element specifically.
I wonder if each Arrivee has a suitably placed pub selling Copper Dragon and chips?
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Can I ask that you insist the team wear beards please.
Sideburns not good enough?
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Can I ask that you insist the team wear beards please.
Sideburns not good enough?
I'm surprised Wiggle or some-such haven't started selling stick on Wiggo sideburns. I'd buy a pair.
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Cut-out-and-keep sideburns in The Sun the other day.
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Can I ask that you insist the team wear beards please.
Sideburns not good enough?
I'm surprised Wiggle or some-such haven't started selling stick on Wiggo sideburns. I'd buy a pair.
I sold him a pair I didn't need any more.
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Cut-out-and-keep sideburns in The Sun the other day.
Bugger, missed that!
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(Ahem)
Bump! We have exalted company within our numbers.
Brad posting from his mobile? Dave Millar tweeting YACF TT info? Cav giving directional advice in Audax?
Dave Brailsford giving tips in Further Faster Fitter?
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I watched the Wiggo documentary last night - it was brilliant and quite funny. On the one hand you had Shane Sutton basically saying you just need to ride your bike lots in order to get better and there isn't much science behind his philosophy. Then you had Tim Kerrison's approach which is clearly very scientific! But what the heck, the cocktail of philosophies clearly works!
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As long as that's the only cocktail they're using...
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Dave Brailsford for Prime Minister.
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I watched the Wiggo documentary last night - it was brilliant and quite funny. On the one hand you had Shane Sutton basically saying you just need to ride your bike lots in order to get better and there isn't much science behind his philosophy.
"Ride lots" is borrowed from Baron Merckx, I believe.
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Dave Brailsford for Prime Minister.
+1 What a shame I can only '+1' and not '+several trillion' - Dave Brailsford is a genius, his man management skills are second to none.
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Dave Brailsford for Prime Minister.
+1 What a shame I can only '+1' and not '+several trillion' - Dave Brailsford is a genius, his man management skills are second to none.
... though Team Sky is (still) clearly a coalition of the very willing ;)
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Dave Brailsford for Prime Minister.
+1 What a shame I can only '+1' and not '+several trillion' - Dave Brailsford is a genius, his man management skills are second to none.
Are neither of you curious to know his politics?
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*Harumph*
Oh I say, whatever for? The man's a cyclist, must be a good egg. Couldn't be cyclist otherwise eh wot? *Harumph*
Hooowever, given that he's made GB cyclists run on time maybe it should be "Dave Brailsford for Il Duce"? After all he's already got the haircut for it :)
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;D