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Title: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 05 June, 2016, 04:20:22 pm
Without getting into gauntlet throwing, in the light of this thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=97894.msg2037927#msg2037927) it feels almost natural that there should be an opposite.
I'll kick off with:

Coleman's English Mustard and white grapes.

Some context.
Years ago my (then) partner and I had a catering business, delivering sandwiches, lunches and buffets in the Harrow area.
We were constantly on the look-out for new dishes / filings, most of which were tested on her (then) teenage son (and ace bread butterer).
I tried the above.
My advice is don't.
Ever.
I really like both individually, but combined they taste of concentrated Stan.

Moving on, an ex-girlfriend who trained in hospitality / catering etc told me there were a couple of things you should never serve to a guest, irrespective of how much they demand it, because one pair will ensure that they are on the toilet for the next three weeks, and the other pair will keep them away from that room for the next three weeks.
Whisky and whelks was one pair.
Unfortunately I cannot remember which 3 week session they deliver, and am not prepared to put it to the test.
I cannot remember what the other combo was.

Remembering.... There's a thing.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 05 June, 2016, 04:35:39 pm
Not food but orange juice tastes foul after brushing teeth with minty toothpaste.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 05 June, 2016, 04:44:07 pm
Yogurt and chocolate.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Gus on 05 June, 2016, 04:45:15 pm
strong blue cheese & fresh pinapple in that order. Must be one of the worst thing I've tried.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: rr on 05 June, 2016, 04:49:00 pm
Pineapple and sponge, pineapple upsidedown cake is one of the few dishes that instantly makes me heave.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Basil on 05 June, 2016, 05:21:48 pm
When I was young, I knew that mixing stuff had good results for morning toast.
Peanut butter and jam.  Nice
Marmite and peanut butter.  Fabulous.

So I tried Marmite and honey.
 :sick:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Ian H on 05 June, 2016, 05:58:20 pm
The son of a farming friend of mine couldn't find any milk in the house.  So he put yoghurt in his tea.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 05 June, 2016, 05:59:45 pm
The son of a farming friend of mine couldn't find any milk in the house.  So he put yoghurt in his tea.
;D
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Ben T on 05 June, 2016, 07:02:51 pm
Marmite - and whisky.

Sugar-coated shredded wheat with milk on - with stewing steak.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: rafletcher on 05 June, 2016, 08:15:13 pm
Almost any pair of ingredients that Nigel Slater suggests!
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 June, 2016, 01:03:08 pm
Cambozola and bombay mix.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: T42 on 07 June, 2016, 01:10:17 pm
Fruity rosé and fish.  The fruitiness makes the fish taste disgusting.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Legs on 07 June, 2016, 02:47:43 pm
Chocolate and mint.

I'm pretty omnivorous but I cannot stand After Eight mints - my reasoning is that you wouldn't eat chocolate after brushing your teeth, so why would you eat a toothpaste-filled chocolate?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 07 June, 2016, 02:52:58 pm
Never make curry with Actimel when you've run out of yogurt


OK, it's not strictly two tastes but I feel this needs reiterating at every opportunity.


Of course it could probably have been predicted but you don't know until you try it... :facepalm: :sick:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 07 June, 2016, 04:56:34 pm
Chocolate and mint.

I'm pretty omnivorous but I cannot stand After Eight mints - my reasoning is that you wouldn't eat chocolate after brushing your teeth, so why would you eat a toothpaste-filled chocolate?

My father feels the same.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 07 June, 2016, 06:16:35 pm
I can eat one (or maybe one handful ;) ) but it's limited to that - second helpings um no.  My wife can eat them all night  :sick:


I had a conversation over on another website some years ago where someone was genuinely confused as to why there were not minty-drinks out there (aside from liqueurs I suppose).  I did point out the dental side of things.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 07 June, 2016, 07:48:47 pm
There's peppermint tea and tea with mint/nana...
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Charlotte on 07 June, 2016, 08:49:30 pm
Kippers and custard.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2016, 09:04:03 pm
This is possibly an individual thing, but
Carrots and tomatoes.  I love them both, but together,  :sick:
Decide what you're putting in that casserole.  It's one or the other.  Not both.

Similarly, when I have the full metal breakfast, the eggs must be on the opposite side of the plate from and definitely not touching beans or tomatoes.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 07 June, 2016, 09:12:46 pm
A very common recipe for spag bol has grated carrots and of course tomatoes are a must there.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2016, 09:52:30 pm
A very common recipe for spag bol has grated carrots and of course tomatoes are a must there.


Carrots?  In spag bol?
No.
Just say no.  OK?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 07 June, 2016, 09:53:14 pm
Tonight's stew had beef cooked in tinned tomato, broccoli, onion and carrot.
Partner didn't complain and I thought it was OK.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2016, 09:58:27 pm
Tonight's stew had beef cooked in tinned tomato, broccoli, onion and carrot.
Partner didn't complain and I thought it was OK.

OK.  Fair enough.  Just me then.

As I said
This is possibly an individual thing, but
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 07 June, 2016, 10:01:47 pm
You're just WRONG face it :P ;)
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: red marley on 07 June, 2016, 10:09:40 pm
The vegan's favourite porrange  - that's porridge made with orange juice rather than water and milk*.

It's such a great portmanteau that it should work. And why wouldn't two breakfast ingredients that slosh about in my stomach of  a morning anyway not work? It's one of those things that after the first spoonful you think, "hmm, interesting, not too bad...", then after the second "...not great.." and the third "...yeurgh" and leaves an aftertaste once experienced never forgotten. Just say no.


* I realise the purists north of the border will insist milk has no place in real porridge, but I'm partial to a bit of soya milk in mine.**


**Or failing that, if I'm cycling from London to Edinburgh and back, a spot of whisky.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 07 June, 2016, 10:18:16 pm
Orange goes with very little - that's why it always gets a sharp intake of breath from John Torode ;)
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 07 June, 2016, 10:19:54 pm
Isn't that bircher muesli stuff just porridge made with apple juice (and yoghurt)? It is in my house (though I cut it with almond milk otherwise it's too sweet). I once used cider because I didn't have any apple juice. That was a good day.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: citoyen on 07 June, 2016, 10:44:17 pm
Isn't that bircher muesli stuff just porridge made with apple juice (and yoghurt)? It is in my house (though I cut it with almond milk otherwise it's too sweet). I once used cider because I didn't have any apple juice. That was a good day.

Alcohol and oats are a good mix - just ask the Scottish.

I don't get on with milk so I soak my muesli in apple juice. I've tried it with orange juice when I was out of apple but it doesn't work (and definitely don't add yoghurt if you're using orange juice).

I have also tried orange squash on muesli, faute de mieux - it was at an audax control. It wasn't nice but I didn't care at the time, I just wanted calories.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 07 June, 2016, 11:28:58 pm

I have also tried orange squash on muesli, faute de mieux - it was at an audax control. It wasn't nice but I didn't care at the time, I just wanted calories.


Is reminded of a really tetchy moment on PBP last year when stuck in a queue behind a really irritating persistent person taking 20 minutes wanting ice-cold lemonade and making a fuss about it at 3 am in a random French cafe with 1k+ randonneurs both ahead and behind  ::-)   Still annoys me cost many of us valuable time for no reason other than him being completely unrealistic - it would have taken a sodding miracle at that time and place the place had been thoroughly raided already - cold drinks no longer existed. Yours is proper eating sir!
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: jsabine on 07 June, 2016, 11:48:59 pm

**Or failing that, if I'm cycling from London to Edinburgh and back, a spot of whisky.

Not next year, sir, not next year.

It's H&S gorn mad, I tell 'ee, gorn mad.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: jsabine on 07 June, 2016, 11:50:36 pm
Kippers and custard.

This reminds me of a former friend's idea for the culinary publishing sensation of the year, Cuisine Horrible, of which the only recipe I can remember was haddock jam.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Legs on 08 June, 2016, 09:00:24 am
Your friend is Letitia Cropley, AICMFP
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: T42 on 08 June, 2016, 11:17:40 am
Broccoli with anything.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: citoyen on 08 June, 2016, 11:47:16 am
Broccoli with anything.

Or on its own.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Ian H on 08 June, 2016, 11:53:21 am

Alcohol and oats are a good mix - just ask the Scottish.


They don't suffer brewer's droop up there?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 08 June, 2016, 12:06:48 pm
I once put grapefruit juice in my coffee. That wasn't a success. Look at carton before pouring. Look at coffee before drinking. Lessons learned.

I won't have bad words said about broccoli, I like it, though not as much as cauliflower.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: T42 on 08 June, 2016, 01:10:29 pm
Cauliflower cheese, now that's very OK.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Woofage on 08 June, 2016, 02:39:06 pm
When I was young, I knew that mixing stuff had good results for morning toast.
Peanut butter and jam.  Nice
Marmite and peanut butter.  Fabulous.

So I tried Marmite and honey.
 :sick:

Marmite and marmalade (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=97894.msg2039199#msg2039199) on toast works though.

However, I'm generally of the opinion that savoury things should not be partnered with sweet things.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 08 June, 2016, 02:59:00 pm
When I was young, I knew that mixing stuff had good results for morning toast.
Peanut butter and jam.  Nice
Marmite and peanut butter.  Fabulous.

So I tried Marmite and honey.
 :sick:

Marmite and marmalade (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=97894.msg2039199#msg2039199) on toast works though.

However, I'm generally of the opinion that savoury things should not be partnered with sweet things.

My mother seems to be of that opinion; it seems to rule out much oriental cuisine though.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jakob W on 08 June, 2016, 03:14:25 pm
I like broccoli anyhow, but roast broccoli is utterly delicious.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 08 June, 2016, 03:26:29 pm
When I was young, I knew that mixing stuff had good results for morning toast.
Peanut butter and jam.  Nice
Marmite and peanut butter.  Fabulous.

So I tried Marmite and honey.
 :sick:

Marmite and marmalade (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=97894.msg2039199#msg2039199) on toast works though.

However, I'm generally of the opinion that savoury things should not be partnered with sweet things.

My mother seems to be of that opinion; it seems to rule out much oriental cuisine though.

I'm willing to be proved wrong, but I've never seen sweet and sour chicken (or similar sickly sweet concoctions) in China. A lot of Thai and Malay recipes include palm sugar, but they tend not to overdo it.

Of course, I'm back with chicken and waffles and my favourite breakfast: blueberry pancakes, maple syrup, bacon and sausage.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 08 June, 2016, 03:46:17 pm
Did someone mention Marmite?


Can I remind all that the thread title included the words which individually are fine...

Marmite does not fulfil that definition  :P :sick:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: toontra on 08 June, 2016, 04:00:39 pm

Similarly, when I have the full metal breakfast, the eggs must be on the opposite side of the plate from and definitely not touching beans or tomatoes.

Use sausages to form a breakwater between egg and beans/toms.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Woofage on 08 June, 2016, 05:07:07 pm
Did someone mention Marmite?


Can I remind all that the thread title included the words which individually are fine...

Marmite does not fulfil that definition  :P :sick:

I think you meant to post that on another forum :P
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: SteveC on 08 June, 2016, 06:23:23 pm
However, I'm generally of the opinion that savoury things should not be partnered with sweet things.

Although quite common, this appears to be a fairly recent idea and fairly culturally limited as well. I do a fair amount of seventeenth century cooking. A high proportion of   ostensibly savoury dishes are garnished with sugar for instance, which we would generally find weird. But you still find that in some middle eastern or north African cuisines.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ElyDave on 08 June, 2016, 06:49:00 pm
Cauliflower cheese, now that's very OK.

cauliflower and cheese together is the work of STAN,

Now a nice aloo gobi as made by my missus  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 08 June, 2016, 08:55:54 pm
However, I'm generally of the opinion that savoury things should not be partnered with sweet things.

Although quite common, this appears to be a fairly recent idea and fairly culturally limited as well. I do a fair amount of seventeenth century cooking. A high proportion of   ostensibly savoury dishes are garnished with sugar for instance, which we would generally find weird. But you still find that in some middle eastern or north African cuisines.

Yet, in general, there's quite a lot of sugar in many processed savoury foods, from baked beans to tomato ketchup, soup, bread etc.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 08 June, 2016, 09:14:32 pm
Did someone mention Marmite?


Can I remind all that the thread title included the words which individually are fine...

Marmite does not fulfil that definition  :P :sick:

I think you meant to post that on another forum :P

No just confirming my suspicion that one is a lone wolf amongst oddness  ;)
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Ruthie on 08 June, 2016, 09:21:26 pm
Hmm.  Sometimes I agree with Basil, but then, you need carrots and tomatoes in Minestrone, so sometimes I don't agree with Basil. 

But carrots in a tomato sauce?  yech
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ElyDave on 08 June, 2016, 09:21:56 pm
Did someone mention Marmite?


Can I remind all that the thread title included the words which individually are fine...

Marmite does not fulfil that definition  :P :sick:

I think you meant to post that on another forum :P

No just confirming my suspicion that one is a lone wolf amongst oddness  ;)
we are not alone.  Marmite  :sick:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: barakta on 08 June, 2016, 11:21:42 pm
Kim and I both detest marmite  :sick:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: jsabine on 08 June, 2016, 11:43:08 pm
Kim and I both detest marmite  :sick:

I'd always had you down as people of taste and discernment, and this merely confirms it.

The stuff's vile.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 08 June, 2016, 11:52:35 pm
I can tolerate Marmite but I don't like it.
Title: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: citoyen on 09 June, 2016, 12:24:32 am
Marmite is a bit like marmite - you either love it or hate it or you don't mind it.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 09 June, 2016, 09:10:17 am
Did someone mention Marmite?


Can I remind all that the thread title included the words which individually are fine...

Marmite does not fulfil that definition  :P :sick:
I think people only pretend to like Marmite, just to seem hard. It's like pretending to like drinking until you are sick or something. Actually I think I'd rather do that than eat marmite (and I really, really really hate being sick).
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2016, 10:58:15 am
I don't immediately die if I eat marmite. But I don't see why I'd want to eat it. It's just salty meh. Or as a friend of mine once loudly announced: 'it tastes like cum' before realising what she'd just said to a tableful of people she barely knew. Wedding receptions, eh. Could have been worse, it might have been a bar mitzvah.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Legs on 09 June, 2016, 11:00:51 am
Could have been worse, it might have been a bar mitzvah.
It might have been her bat mitzvah  :o
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: citoyen on 09 June, 2016, 11:12:46 am
Can I remind all that the thread title included the words which individually are fine...

Marmite does not fulfil that definition  :P :sick:

It's just salty meh. Or as a friend of mine once loudly announced: 'it tastes like cum' before realising what she'd just said to a tableful of people she barely knew.

To be fair, I don't think Marmite is meant to be eaten individually - unlike peanut butter, which is at its best consumed straight from the jar with a spoon. The saltiness is the very raison d'etre of Marmite - it's more of a seasoning than a main ingredient, akin to Worcestershire sauce. Poached eggs on toast, for example, are immeasurably improved by a thin smear of Marmite on the toast, but layer it on too thick and you render the whole dish inedible.

Cum may well taste the same as Marmite but it has a very different consistency and would just make the toast soggy. Which might be acceptable in British public schools but not on my breakfast table, thank you.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: pcolbeck on 09 June, 2016, 01:07:03 pm
Your right the thing with Marmite is to spread it very thinly. One of the funniest things I ever saw was a German couple in a hotel at breakfast. The lady had picked up several of those individual portions of Marmite examined them curiously then spread it about a 1/4 an inch thick on bread and gave it to her husband to eat. I think she thought it was an English version of Nutella. His face was a picture when he bit into the bread. the whole thing was like watching a slow motion car crash.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Tim Hall on 09 June, 2016, 01:17:08 pm
Broccoli with anything.

Or on its own.

A mutant vegetable, according to The Boy.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2016, 01:27:10 pm
All vegetables are horrific mutants to everyone but the anti-GM brigade, who seem to think they're natural, unadulterated expressions of mother nature's bounty.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 June, 2016, 02:03:41 pm
To be fair, I don't think Marmite is meant to be eaten individually - unlike peanut butter, which is at its best consumed straight from the jar with a spoon.

ISTR those wacky japesters at Park Tool made one of their sturdy offerings with a handle specifically designed for the transfer of peanut butter from jar to gob of oily spanner-monkey.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 09 June, 2016, 03:51:08 pm
@citoyen & @pcolbeck:
Marmite.
Thin. Yes. (in a Don Logan kind of way).
Poached eggs on toast are a regular treat in my local greasy spoon at the weekend.
Usually with lashings of ketchup.
I'll give the thin Marmite thing a go.
I confess to preferring Vegemite.
Marmite makes an awful, and difficult-to-clean-off mess, if you smear it on the windscreen of a car.
DAHIKT.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Legs on 09 June, 2016, 03:57:38 pm
I confess to preferring Vegemite.
That is wrong.  You are wrong.  Vegemite is an abomination. 
Bovril is where it's at.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 09 June, 2016, 05:21:45 pm
Awesome I've derailed this into a marmite hate-fest -  8) 8) 8)


as you were.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: barakta on 09 June, 2016, 05:41:43 pm
 :demon: :thumbsup: :demon:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ElyDave on 09 June, 2016, 05:56:20 pm
I confess to preferring Vegemite.
That is wrong.  You are wrong.  Vegemite is an abomination. 
Bovril is where it's at.  :thumbsup:

but only in a mug (and no, I don't mean the person drinking it)
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 09 June, 2016, 06:00:47 pm
I confess to preferring Vegemite.
That is wrong.  You are wrong.  Vegemite is an abomination. 
Bovril is where it's at.  :thumbsup:

but only in a mug (and no, I don't mean the person drinking it)

One step away from an oxo cube....
And Linda Bellingham...
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2016, 06:13:12 pm
Well, if someone wants to do a taste test between marmite, vegemite, bovril and male bodily fluids, they should go ahead and report back. Sounds like a 1950's public school Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: L CC on 09 June, 2016, 06:26:56 pm
Well, if someone wants to do a taste test between marmite, vegemite, bovril and male bodily fluids, they should go ahead and report back. Sounds like a 1950's public school Wednesday night.

Been there, done that.

It wasn't a blind taste test, mind.

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Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 09 June, 2016, 06:29:35 pm
Well, if someone wants to do a taste test between marmite, vegemite, bovril and male bodily fluids, they should go ahead and report back. Sounds like a 1950's public school Wednesday night.

Been there, done that.

It wasn't a blind taste test, mind.

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'Shoptastic!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: L CC on 09 June, 2016, 06:56:51 pm
Not at all. No 'shopping involved. A gift from No1Daughter.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 09 June, 2016, 07:19:17 pm
Not at all. No 'shopping involved. A gift from No1Daughter.
Kudos! To No 1 dot.  :)
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2016, 09:08:31 pm
It is marmite in the jars isn't it? When I see a person's name on the jar and the words 'yeast extract' I do so worry. Though I suppose it might explain the taste.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Karla on 10 June, 2016, 06:04:42 pm
Tea and coffee. 
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Ian H on 10 June, 2016, 08:00:06 pm
Tea and coffee.

James Woodforde might have disagreed.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 10 June, 2016, 08:07:46 pm
Tea and coffee.

James Woodforde might have disagreed.

Didn't David Cassidy say he liked this?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Mr Larrington on 10 June, 2016, 08:16:44 pm
I have heard tell of a Canadian long haul truck driver ordering a coffee with a tea bag in it because "is good for eyes open".  This was long before Red Bull and similar vile concoctions had made it out of dry cleaners shops and onto the shelves of every newsagents in the wurrrlld.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Ian H on 10 June, 2016, 08:26:34 pm
Tea and coffee.

James Woodforde might have disagreed.

Didn't David Cassidy say he liked this?

He did, in the same cup, whereas Parson Woodforde merely drank one after the other (along with chocolate).
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Karla on 11 June, 2016, 11:30:57 am
It took me years to work up the courage to try tea mixed with coffee: I felt it was sacrilege to ruin both a perfectly good cup of tea and a perfectly good cup of coffee at the same time.  Eventually I tried it and it was weird: sweet and sickly yet bitter, punchy and harsh. 

I've tried the experiment now, so I don't have to do it again  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: T42 on 11 June, 2016, 01:52:15 pm
Unsweetened espresso and strawberries.  Coffee then strawbs is OK, strawbs then coffee makes the coffee taste excessively bitter, ditto served with.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Adam on 13 June, 2016, 09:06:53 pm
If you eat any raw cauliflower, don't drink Coke/Pepsi immediately afterwards.  There's a very strange interaction which then occurs in your mouth.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 13 June, 2016, 09:10:46 pm
If you eat any raw cauliflower, don't drink Coke/Pepsi immediately afterwards.  There's a very strange interaction which then occurs in your mouth.
Not overfond of either but, of course, am intrigued to give it a go for the lols.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Andrew Br on 14 June, 2016, 06:43:03 pm
I have heard tell of a Canadian long haul truck driver ordering a coffee with a tea bag in it because "is good for eyes open". 

Truck Magazine circa 1977 IIRC. Story told by the late, great Philip Llewellin in Long Distance Diary.

FWIW, Commercial Motor have reprinted some of the best* LDDs:- http://truckanddriver.co.uk/truck-is-back-the-best-of-truck-long-distance-diaries/

*Their description; many of them previously appeared in Llewellin's book "The Road to Muckle Flugga".
I think Llewellin's best story was his 1st for Truck; it was in a "special" on Volvo Trucks. He was travelling in an F89 in the Gulf.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 June, 2016, 03:49:23 pm
I read it in "The Road To Muckle Flugga".  Llewellin was teh Aces, so I will check out that Commercial Motor link, ta.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Andrew Br on 15 June, 2016, 08:55:52 pm
I read it in "The Road To Muckle Flugga".  Llewellin was teh Aces, so I will check out that Commercial Motor link, ta.

Just be aware that most of the Llewellin LDDs from the CM reprint are in Muckle Flugga and the stories by the other reporters are (no exaggeration) complete and utter crap. Considering the quality of writing that they're up against, I suppose it's not too surprising.

Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: perpetual dan on 15 June, 2016, 09:02:03 pm
I once put grapefruit juice in my coffee. That wasn't a success. Look at carton before pouring. Look at coffee before drinking. Lessons learned.

I won't have bad words said about broccoli, I like it, though not as much as cauliflower.

The coffee stand at Wimbledon station, for a while, advertised lemon coffee (much as for lemon tea). I tried it once.  :sick:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: geraldc on 09 July, 2016, 11:12:48 am
Maple syrup and ketchup. Together they taste like Chinese preserved prunes. Curiously I like Chinese preserved prunes, but not a mixture of condiments that taste like them.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 July, 2016, 02:45:32 pm
I read it in "The Road To Muckle Flugga".  Llewellin was teh Aces, so I will check out that Commercial Motor link, ta.

Just be aware that most of the Llewellin LDDs from the CM reprint are in Muckle Flugga and the stories by the other reporters are (no exaggeration) complete and utter crap. Considering the quality of writing that they're up against, I suppose it's not too surprising.

It took a while to get here but landed on the doormat this morning :thumbsup:  Much unread Llewellin, yay!
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Andrew Br on 24 July, 2016, 10:24:26 am
Good news Mr L  :thumbsup:.

Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 July, 2016, 11:09:25 pm
There was a never-to-be-forgotten occasion when my younger daughter spread Very Good Home-Made Marmalade on a slice of toast using a knife that had previously been used to spread garlic butter on bread.

Garlic butter is very good.

Very good home made marmalade is very good.

The two combined are utterly dreadful. It's not just that the taste is bad, it that you realise that lovely slice of toast with marmalade has been utterly ruined and has to be thrown in the bin.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: IanDG on 26 July, 2016, 11:13:20 pm
Custard and Mushrooms?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: T42 on 30 July, 2016, 07:20:26 am
Tea and coffee.  "I didn't know if you wanted tea or coffee so I made you both. In the same cup."
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 30 July, 2016, 08:52:25 am
Bzzzt! https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=97895.msg2040087#msg2040087 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=97895.msg2040087#msg2040087)
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 September, 2016, 11:40:14 pm
Chocolate and ginger, to my great surprise.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 02 September, 2016, 06:47:19 pm
Chocolate and ginger, to my great surprise.

In what form?

Dark chocolate-coated crystallised ginger seems fine to me!
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: SteveC on 02 September, 2016, 07:01:22 pm
MrsC makes a fine ginger shortbread which is dipped in chocolate. They always seem to disappear quite quickly.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 September, 2016, 08:38:57 pm
Chocolate and ginger, to my great surprise.

In what form?

Dark chocolate-coated crystallised ginger seems fine to me!
I found Green & Black's dark choc with ginger not nearly as good as either of its components.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 02 September, 2016, 08:54:30 pm
Chocolate and ginger, to my great surprise.

In what form?

Dark chocolate-coated crystallised ginger seems fine to me!
I found Green & Black's dark choc with ginger not nearly as good as either of its components.

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Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Legs on 11 January, 2017, 11:33:28 am
I've just phone through our lunch order to the sandwich shop and one of my colleagues requested chicken/bacon/salad/brown sauce.  That's just wrong :hand:. I felt rather dirty asking for it.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 11 January, 2017, 11:40:24 am
Indeed, he forgot to ask for egg. It's chicken, bacon, egg, salad, and HP sauce.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Legs on 11 January, 2017, 11:47:52 am
 :P
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: essexian on 11 January, 2017, 11:49:13 am
Chip shop chips with salt and/or vinegar. *

Turns chips from the food of the Gods to a nasty tasting mess  :hand:






*NOTE: I fear I may be alone in this.

Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Legs on 11 January, 2017, 11:56:48 am
*NOTE: I fear I may be alone in this.
Yup.  Chips without S&V are grim.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 January, 2017, 12:06:09 pm
Indeed, he forgot to ask for egg. It's chicken, bacon, egg, salad, and HP sauce.

It's the salad I object to.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 11 January, 2017, 01:59:16 pm
A BLT sandwich without the salad would lack a certain...
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 11 January, 2017, 02:29:29 pm
A proper club sandwich should include chicken, salad and mayo on the bottom deck; bacon, egg and HP sauce on the top. I think it's in the Bible. Jesus gets smitingly mad if you make them otherwise.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: T42 on 11 January, 2017, 02:31:38 pm
BLTs are a perversion. How the hell can you keep the bacon hot?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: citoyen on 11 January, 2017, 02:49:33 pm
BLTs are a perversion. How the hell can you keep the bacon hot?

When I make a BLT, I've usually eaten it before it's had a chance to get cold.

It helps if the L and T aren't straight from the fridge though.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Kim on 11 January, 2017, 02:59:17 pm
Chip shop chips with salt and/or vinegar. *

Turns chips from the food of the Gods to a nasty tasting mess  :hand:

I'm with you on the vinegar.  Salt depends on how much I'm craving salt, but the important thing is that it's applied in moderation, rather than the improbable amounts that the chip shop person will chuck on if allowed to do so.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 11 January, 2017, 07:16:22 pm
What about The Scottish Abomination*.

*OK, one of many, I'm talking about chips with salt and sauce (sonsus). It's not real sauce, it's the consistency of free running snot, the kind that giddily glissades from one's nostrils during the early stage of what is about to become a very peculiar cold.

Chips need a lot of vinegar otherwise they're just dry, greasy stodge. When I was little my gran let me put vinegar on crisps so they'd all mush up like mashed potato and I could scoop them messily into my mouth. Chips, to be honest, are a lot better in theory than in practice.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: essexian on 11 January, 2017, 07:46:49 pm
Chips, to be honest, are a lot better in theory than in practice.

BURN THE HERETIC

I would be half the man I am if chips had not been invented!


Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 11 January, 2017, 08:04:09 pm
Chips, to be honest, are a lot better in theory than in practice.

BURN THE HERETIC

I would be half the man I am if chips had not been invented!

I didn't know what chips WERE till I was 8.
I survived on this deprived dietary education.

I'll eat chips occasionally but can easily do without for months.

Chips always taste better if they are on Someone Else's plate.

Sometimes they are full of meh.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 11 January, 2017, 08:11:20 pm
Understand that I can and will eat my own body weight in crisps (admittedly, as Moby's stunt double, I have to keep my svelte figure as I'm on call for any international DJ emergencies that Moby can't attend).

Chips though, after the first few mouthfuls, they're just stodgy, claggy potato. Oh I know, there's some superstar-chef somewhere hexatuple frying them in rendered humpback whale fat for extra crispness, and then slicing them them with an ultramicrotome into monomolecular wafers that you can inhale. But I'm talking nuclear stodge from the local chippy.

Mind you, I know stodge. I grew up eating chips and rice with curry sauce and, on top, a potato fritter. The curry sauce was rather daring in my home town, I think the chippy kept it under the counter.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 11 January, 2017, 08:14:34 pm
But I'm talking nuclear stodge from the local chippy.
That's the nom  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 January, 2017, 08:22:27 pm
BLTs are a perversion. How the hell can you keep the bacon hot?

When I make a BLT, I've usually eaten it before it's had a chance to get cold.

It helps if the L and T aren't straight from the fridge though.

It helps even more if they're left in the fridge instead of polluting Perfectly Good BACON :demon:

Understand that I can and will eat my own body weight in crisps (admittedly, as Moby's stunt double, I have to keep my svelte figure as I'm on call for any international DJ emergencies that Moby can't attend).

Are you doing the Man From Del Monte's inauguration then?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Moleman76 on 11 January, 2017, 08:31:12 pm
chips and rice with curry sauce and, on top, a potato fritter.

Add some pasta, and you'll approximate my college roommate's recipe for "starch in a bowl"
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 11 January, 2017, 08:56:32 pm
chips and rice with curry sauce and, on top, a potato fritter.

Add some pasta, and you'll approximate my college roommate's recipe for "starch in a bowl"
I saw one of my colleagues eating his lunch last year - a white roll filled with either pasta salad or macaroni cheese (can't remember which) and Monster Munch.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ian on 11 January, 2017, 09:24:10 pm
chips and rice with curry sauce and, on top, a potato fritter.

Add some pasta, and you'll approximate my college roommate's recipe for "starch in a bowl"
I saw one of my colleagues eating his lunch last year - a white roll filled with either pasta salad or macaroni cheese (can't remember which) and Monster Munch.

Our most useless flatmate as students was a chap called Nigel. Like all Nigels, any usefulness that he possessed was greatly obscured (mostly by marijuana smoke). Anyway, after two terms of him scrounging meals we'd had enough. To the kitchen, you wretch and COOK.

Now, we'd not set the bar high, haute cuisine in our humble student abode was 'cowboy', a concoction of baked beans with chunks of canned meat served with white bread slathered in stork marg; other times we'd go wild at the Diamond Frozen Food store, a testament to the fact that although the marvellous ingenuity of Clarence Birdseye enabled anything to be frozen, that didn't mean everything should be frozen, but you've not lived until you've microwaved a frozen kebab (in a pita with cabbage and about to be magma-hot sauce).

Anyway, I digress. Nigel choosing wisely to avoid our collective simmering wrath was, at least, in the kitchen. Ah, finally, we thought, he's going to be useful. Many hours passed, stomachs rumbled and grumbled and finally, to a resounding chorus of borborygmi, dinner was served. And Nigel had outdone himself, truly he had. Our plates were piled high with steaming spaghetti. And rice. All over-cooked to point of blending into a pile of fuming starch. For sauce he'd tipped an entire bottle of ketchup over the top and tried it stir it in. Just in case that wasn't enough, our resident nurse commented that it 'looked like someone had menstruated over hot blancmange.' 'Not me', she helpfully added. It probably sounds better in French.

Also reminds me of the other year, at a meal in Malawi, and distracted by a conversation I absently held my plate towards the server. In the space of few moments of diverted attention I acquired two huge DD mounds of nshima, a epic mass of spaghetti writhing on top, a small dollop of something that might have been vaguely related to bolognese sauce, and half a chicken. My arm almost dislocated from the tremendous weight of stodge he'd loaded my plate with. I turned around to find a small local child looking up at me with a look that said thanks for saving us some food, you shit.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Feanor on 11 January, 2017, 09:27:18 pm
chips and rice with curry sauce and, on top, a potato fritter.

Add some pasta, and you'll approximate my college roommate's recipe for "starch in a bowl"
I saw one of my colleagues eating his lunch last year - a white roll filled with either pasta salad or macaroni cheese (can't remember which) and Monster Munch.

We were at an Airport recently, and at ( I think ) a F+B and they had a Mac n Cheez pizza ( or possibly calzone ) on offer.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 January, 2017, 11:22:19 am
I like chips with vinegar but no salt. That's just the way I like them.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Torslanda on 15 January, 2017, 04:18:31 pm
I don't mind chips but they'd taste much better if the chip van at Long Itch had ANYTHING LEFT!
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: epa611 on 15 January, 2017, 04:41:49 pm
Minced beef with tinned apricots.  Feed to my wife when she was a wee girl by her dad when her mum was in hospital.  Reportedly the worst thing she's ever tasted

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Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: spesh on 15 January, 2017, 05:05:57 pm
Minced beef with tinned apricots.  Feed to my wife when she was a wee girl by her dad when her mum was in hospital.  Reportedly the worst thing she's ever tasted

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He was almost ahead of the curve on cooking tagine recipes in this country, but he definitely went wrong by using tinned fruit - far too sweet! :sick:

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ground+beef+and+apricots
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 January, 2017, 02:45:55 pm
I don't mind chips but they'd taste much better if the chip van at Long Itch had ANYTHING LEFT!
And if it arrived an hour earlier. Or maybe two hours earlier.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Efrogwr on 16 January, 2017, 05:17:03 pm
Understand that I can and will eat my own body weight in crisps (admittedly, as Moby's stunt double, I have to keep my svelte figure as I'm on call for any international DJ emergencies that Moby can't attend).

Chips though, after the first few mouthfuls, they're just stodgy, claggy potato. Oh I know, there's some superstar-chef somewhere hexatuple frying them in rendered humpback whale fat for extra crispness, and then slicing them them with an ultramicrotome into monomolecular wafers that you can inhale. But I'm talking nuclear stodge from the local chippy.

Mind you, I know stodge. I grew up eating chips and rice with curry sauce and, on top, a potato fritter. The curry sauce was rather daring in my home town, I think the chippy kept it under the counter.

According to Geoffrey Steingarten (the Man Who Ate Evertyhing) the correct fat for cooking chips is that from around a Parisian police horse's kidneys.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: David Martin on 16 January, 2017, 10:52:54 pm
Coming late to this thread. There is such a thing as a food wheel where tastes are diametrically opposite. It is the gastronomic equivalent of a colour wheel. Some strange combinations do emerge. Cold Lincolnshire sausages in chocolate sauce. Spinach and marmalade quiche.

Rather good actually..
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: spesh on 16 January, 2017, 10:55:31 pm
Coming late to this thread. There is such a thing as a food wheel where tastes are diametrically opposite. It is the gastronomic equivalent of a colour wheel. Some strange combinations do emerge. Cold Lincolnshire sausages in chocolate sauce. Spinach and marmalade quiche.

Rather good actually..

http://www.flavourthesaurus.com/about-the-book/
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 18 January, 2017, 11:02:49 am
^
I have this book.
If you are into making up your own recipes, it is incredibly useful.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Torslanda on 21 January, 2017, 11:44:33 am
Anything baked by Letitia Cropley?

Or have we had that already...?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: T42 on 18 March, 2017, 05:00:35 pm
Sweet potato and halibut, or fish in general.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 March, 2017, 05:49:40 pm
Apparently you're not supposed to mix cheese and fish, but I do like a tuna mayo sarnie with some grated cheddar mixed in.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: hellymedic on 18 March, 2017, 05:50:52 pm
Uhh? Cod Mornay?
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 March, 2017, 06:18:52 pm
Uhh? Cod Mornay?

OK, but cod is already disgusting.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 20 March, 2017, 09:43:34 pm
Apparently you're not supposed to mix cheese and fish, but I do like a tuna mayo sarnie with some grated cheddar mixed in.


Pizza with anchovies - that's nice. (though apparently some find it controversial)
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: IanDG on 20 March, 2017, 10:18:15 pm
Apparently you're not supposed to mix cheese and fish, but I do like a tuna mayo sarnie with some grated cheddar mixed in.

Tuna melt - always a good choice when you're in an airport waiting for the (delayed again) flight back to Stornoway.  :P
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: ElyDave on 21 March, 2017, 07:19:21 am
yebbut, if I was doing pizza with anchovies, I wouldn't put cheese on it.  Just tomatoes, anchovies, oregano, olive oil and maybe a few olives.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: Jurek on 21 March, 2017, 07:30:09 am
yebbut, if I was doing pizza with anchovies, I wouldn't put cheese on it.  Just tomatoes, anchovies, oregano, olive oil and maybe a few olives.

If all the anchovies are on one side, you can tell that the delivery boy has been caning it on his bike.
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: caerau on 21 March, 2017, 10:39:42 am
I pretty much thought the base pizza was a the margarita, bread, cheese, tomato and then you build up.  Not sure I've ever come across a pizza without cheese.  But hey ho, you live and learn :-)
Title: Re: Foodstuffs which individually are fine, but should never be paired
Post by: T42 on 22 March, 2017, 07:50:22 am
I pretty much thought the base pizza was a the margarita, bread, cheese, tomato and then you build up.  Not sure I've ever come across a pizza without cheese.  But hey ho, you live and learn :-)

Have enough margaritas and who cares what's on the effing pizza?