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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #150 on: 12 November, 2022, 12:19:11 pm »
Although this Unit personally holds brown sauce to be the effluent produced by an entire zoo full of dysenteric stoats there are many more compelling reasons to cart someone off to a Reëducation Camp than their choice of sauce.  They'll have to wait their turn at any rate.


I was referring to Pie and Peas deniers...

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #151 on: 12 November, 2022, 12:27:02 pm »
My parents stormed out of Scotlandshire after tasting the travesty that passes for sauce in 'salt and sos' in those frigid heathen badlands.

Sotty-sos is regional.
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #152 on: 12 November, 2022, 12:28:28 pm »
I think I've only had pie n peas once, and that was in a pub in Yorkshire. "Yorkshire pub of the year 2021" no less... though a long way from Filey. It was also a square pie, or rather rectangular, which seems wrong. Despite this, it was good. As was the pub.
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #153 on: 20 December, 2023, 11:04:06 am »
Aspartame in anything, but most especially in Irn-Bru & Ginger Beer.  Bastards!



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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #154 on: 20 December, 2023, 11:42:33 am »
I like aspartame. Sugar makes my teeth feel funny.

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #155 on: 20 December, 2023, 11:53:49 am »
I used to drink fizzy pop only rarely but when I did, it was usually because I wanted the sugar hit (eg when audaxing).

Now I never drink fizzy pop because they all have that horrible synthetic taste.

Aspartame is an abomination. 
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #156 on: 20 December, 2023, 12:14:45 pm »
I rarely drink fizzy pop, though I have recently become addicted to Diet Kinnie.

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #157 on: 20 December, 2023, 01:51:06 pm »
I was sustained on the contents of 2 x 750ml Diet Irn Bru (glass 10p deposit) bottles most days, when I was working in Glasgow.

Would not have wanted to drink 150g sugar every day!

Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #158 on: 20 December, 2023, 03:08:23 pm »
Whilst doing some work for Robinsons Soft Drinks (where I discovered that flavoured box drinks - the type with a straw - were uncoloured rather than match their putative fruit origins) I discussed sweeteners with one of their staff. He refused to drink aspartame as, as a foodstuff, he felt it’s potential affects on the human body were insufficiently tested. I guess aspartame is giving way to stevia these days.
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #159 on: 20 December, 2023, 03:17:09 pm »
Whilst doing some work for Robinsons Soft Drinks (where I discovered that flavoured box drinks - the type with a straw - were uncoloured rather than match their putative fruit origins) I discussed sweeteners with one of their staff. He refused to drink aspartame as, as a foodstuff, he felt it’s potential affects on the human body were insufficiently tested. I guess aspartame is giving way to stevia these days.


Given the amount of aspartame that has been used over the years, I think it's one of the most tested food additives on the planet. I take the point that it doesn't taste like sugar, and if you want a sugar hit it will be disappointing. Stevia is horrid though.

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #160 on: 20 December, 2023, 04:06:37 pm »
Sugar was the only reason to drink most fizzy pop and they’ve taken that away. No one actually drinks Coke because they like the flavour, surely?

Sanpellegrino is one of the few brands I would ever drink for its taste and I note they still use real sugar. But they never did target the coke-guzzling masses anyway.
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #161 on: 20 December, 2023, 04:10:56 pm »
Sanpellegrino is one of the few brands I would ever drink for its taste and I note they still use real sugar.

Erm, no. That have also fecked about with their recipe and now it is this: RANK

Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #162 on: 20 December, 2023, 04:56:25 pm »
Whilst doing some work for Robinsons Soft Drinks (where I discovered that flavoured box drinks - the type with a straw - were uncoloured rather than match their putative fruit origins) I discussed sweeteners with one of their staff. He refused to drink aspartame as, as a foodstuff, he felt it’s potential affects on the human body were insufficiently tested. I guess aspartame is giving way to stevia these days.


Given the amount of aspartame that has been used over the years, I think it's one of the most tested food additives on the planet. I take the point that it doesn't taste like sugar, and if you want a sugar hit it will be disappointing. Stevia is horrid though.

Yeah, it was 30 plus years ago so relatively recent to supersede saccharin.
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #163 on: 20 December, 2023, 04:57:05 pm »
There's almost nothing now except proper Coke which doesn't have some adulteration with sweeteners from hell. I think I can buy very expensive blackcurrent drink which is proper sugar but cos hippies it's not got any shelf life and has to be kept in the fridge.

I quite like the taste of coke, but I only ever drink/drank it in moderation. I used to also drink ribena when out/about but that's been adulterated now. I can't drink flavoured milkshakes anymore cos I became lactose intolerant in 2011.

The sugar tax makes getting drinks when away from home very difficult for me. If I'm not carrying my own milk (I can't even do soyamilk cos that makes me retch, and other non dairy replacements taste like crap), it's sugar coke or water which is dull. Some places simply don't stock drinks without sugar or they only supply sweetenered poison (hospitals are notorious for this) so I end up not drinking at all.

I don't need nausea and migraines so *shrug*.

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #164 on: 20 December, 2023, 05:01:31 pm »

The sugar tax makes getting drinks when away from home very difficult for me.

I've got used to the reduced sugar in fizzy drinks now but at first it made treating my diabetic hypoglyceamia a bit hit or miss - how much to drink???
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #165 on: 20 December, 2023, 05:12:36 pm »
That too. I've dealt with a few T1D folk needing emergency sugar drinks at events I've run. We used to just use event money to buy something from the nearest can/drinks machine no problems. Now it's not a reliable source.

Although you can buy dextrose tablets, I use those myself for dodgy migraine blood sugar issues but I'm conscious and not struggling to swallow.

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #166 on: 20 December, 2023, 05:43:14 pm »
Sugar was the only reason to drink most fizzy pop and they’ve taken that away. No one actually drinks Coke because they like the flavour, surely?

Sanpellegrino is one of the few brands I would ever drink for its taste and I note they still use real sugar. But they never did target the coke-guzzling masses anyway.

San Pellegrino now use a mix of sugar & aspartame, as I noted here on a previous Christmas run-up, when searching for Festive full sugar fizzy pop.

I drank Irn Bru as hydration when working in Glasgow's A & E. Hot drinks were less convenient.

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #167 on: 20 December, 2023, 05:44:56 pm »
Sanpellegrino is one of the few brands I would ever drink for its taste and I note they still use real sugar.

Erm, no. That have also fecked about with their recipe and now it is this: RANK

Quite so!

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #168 on: 20 December, 2023, 05:49:55 pm »
'Pure' fruit juices are probably a more reliable source of sugar than bottled drinks.

Assume apple or orange juice are 10% sugar and you won't be far wrong.

Avoid anything marked 'drink' or 'light'.

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #169 on: 20 December, 2023, 05:51:59 pm »
Shouldn't this thread include Crimes against Umamity?
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #170 on: 20 December, 2023, 06:11:45 pm »
Currently guzzling Coke Zero, which tastes different from, and nicer than Diet Coke.  Because the ingredients are in black on a dark red background I can’t actually read them though.
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #171 on: 20 December, 2023, 06:14:38 pm »
I use Mr Sainsbury's website for information about food & drink.
Just saying...

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #172 on: 20 December, 2023, 06:15:37 pm »
Sanpellegrino is one of the few brands I would ever drink for its taste and I note they still use real sugar.

Erm, no. That have also fecked about with their recipe and now it is this: RANK

Ah! I’ve not had it recently but I looked on their website and they still list sugar as an ingredient and no artificial sweeteners. Maybe the website is out of date. Disappointing if so.
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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #173 on: 20 December, 2023, 06:23:03 pm »
Looks like the Limonata is 7.97% sugar and not artificially sweetened and Araciata is 4.4% sugar and sweetened with Stevia, according to Sainsbury's website.

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Re: Food Crimes
« Reply #174 on: 20 December, 2023, 06:30:37 pm »
Currently guzzling Coke Zero, which tastes different from, and nicer than Diet Coke.  Because the ingredients are in black on a dark red background I can’t actually read them though.

Coke Zero and Diet Coke have the same ingredients, the only difference is Coke Zero's caffeine ingredient appears further down the list because it has the same amount of it as Coke rather than Diet Coke.
IIRC it's 65mg in a can of Diet Coke and 45mg in Coke and Coke Zero, but that may Pepsi Max Vs Diet Coke in which case Coke/Coke Zero is something lower

But everyone knows that the best Cola is Barr's Red Kola, followed by Barr's Cola Extra