Pbp 2023 - what are the odds?

[Wycombewheeler]

I doubt anyone will turn you away if you turn up outside your official time slot.

Hopefully, but I inadvertently selected the right time on the wrong day (Friday instead of Saturday  ) so I'd quite like to fix it officially if I can

Failing that, I can play dumb (or 'act French' as the climbing community would have it)

more likely to be a problem, definitely email them. As they may or may not automatically put anything not collected on Friday out for Saturday. They might assume you are not coming at all.

[madcow]

My impression was that all the dossiers were delivered to the start and it was then up to the volunteers to respond as riders appeared at the collection point. The times for collection were really to spread the load.
I dont think that they would bin them on Friday just because someone hadn't turned up.
It's  well organised but fairly relaxed . 

[Lightning Phil]

Just go back in and change your collection time

[frillipippi]

Just go back in and change your collection time

Once ACP validates your subscription, you can't change anything anymore

[John Stonebridge]

Eventually got my finger out last week and limbo danced under the closing door to secure a 90hr 2030 spot. 

Mrs S is planning to head out to the finish on the Thursday so Im under orders not to finish in anything less than 88 hours.  I sure her wishes can be accommodated. 

[Wycombewheeler]

Eventually got my finger out last week and limbo danced under the closing door to secure a 90hr 2030 spot. 

Mrs S is planning to head out to the finish on the Thursday so Im under orders not to finish in anything less than 88 hours.  I sure her wishes can be accommodated.

there are a few cafes and bars close to the course in Rambouillet, just kill some time there if you are early before cruising nice and refreshed to the finish

[LateStarter]

I haven't been paying attention for the last week and I don't think this has been mentioned here but ACP have published (French only) the final PBP 2023 fully registered rider numbers (as at close of registrations)

https://www.paris-brest-paris.org/qui-sont-les-6810-inscrits-a-paris-brest-paris-2023/

Despite the 8000 places "available" the headline final registration is (only?) 6,810, up 136 compared to 6,674 in 2019. French up by 400 (exactly) with 1,973 (1,573* in 2019), most other countries (except Germany) down marginally (UK down 8 to 554)

So looks like we are still on the fence with regard to "peak brevet" but with more work to do?

(*The 1217 figure quoted in the article for French in 2019 is not correct, it might relate to FFCT members?)

[Von Broad]

https://www.paris-brest-paris.org/qui-sont-les-6810-inscrits-a-paris-brest-paris-2023/

Be nice to have a bit more detail[shame about the truncated nationality chart?], is there a full breakdown available?
71 Nationalities. The Japanese putting in a good show! Hardly a stones throw away for them is it? [As is the case for many countries!].

And 5 octogenarians having a go. The fact they've qualified is impressive. Be interesting to see how they get on.

[LittleWheelsandBig]

Only one 80 year old has ever finished PBP though several have started.

[Von Broad]

And 5 octogenarians having a go. The fact they've qualified is impressive. Be interesting to see how they get on.

Do we know how they fared?

[Ivo]

And 5 octogenarians having a go. The fact they've qualified is impressive. Be interesting to see how they get on.

Do we know how they fared?

Drop out stats as published in the French forum (on the basis of the preliminary results):

By gender

Genre    Inscrits   Partants   OK   Tx d'échec
Féminin   494   469   312   33%
Masculin   6318   5954   4546   24%
Neutre   8   6   3   50%
Total   6820   6429   4861   24%

By startgroup

Délai   Inscrits   Partants   OK   Tx d'échec
80   1306   1238   1035   16%
84   956   888   683   23%
90   4558   4303   3143   27%
Total   6820   6429   4861   24%

By age

Âge   Inscrits   Partants   OK   Tx d’échec
[17;20]   12   10   6   40%
[21;25]   50   48   41   15%
[26;30]   207   199   164   18%
[31;35]   401   374   327   13%
[36;40]   650   596   489   18%
[41;45]   843   793   629   21%
[46;50]   1072   1010   789   22%
[51;55]   1179   1123   877   22%
[56;60]   1055   999   727   27%
[61;65]   819   777   528   32%
[66;70]   393   370   233   37%
[71;75]   118   112   45   60%
[76;80]   17   15   6   60%
[81;85]   4   3   0   100%
Total   6820   6429   4861   24%

[Von Broad]

Drop out stats as published in the French forum (on the basis of the preliminary results):

Thanks Ivo.
Moving gradually towards the outer regions of age, I'm forever fascinated how the whole thing just falls off a cliff after 75, and how challenging it must be, both psychologically and physically, to kick against that inevitable decline.
I made a joke to Mel Kirkland if he's quietly got his eye on being a select member of that last category - it wouldn't surprise me if he could do it either.

[klem]

Trackers are not infallible. Mine failed to record in both 2019 and 2023. I rode with Peter Ruffhead who wasn't feeling great. We were well behind schedule at Brest where he packed. I carried on but 35*C heat got to me and with vision issues I bailed at Tinteneac. Disappointing end to my 8th consecutive PBP. And after being out of time on my 7th LEL last year I'm unlikely to be entering either again.
Mel

[the straggler]

Mel, if you can still achieve an SR in the next 2-3 seasons, you still have every chance to succeed again in next LEL and PBP. Let time heal and have another rethink and then decide.

Look forward to see you on another SR campaign next season.....

[tomj]

Mel, you are an inspiration to many of us, reflect on the experience and keep turning those pedals!

[mzjo]

And 5 octogenarians having a go. The fact they've qualified is impressive. Be interesting to see how they get on.

Do we know how they fared?

Drop out stats as published in the French forum (on the basis of the preliminary results):

By gender

Genre    Inscrits   Partants   OK   Tx d'échec
Féminin   494   469   312   33%
Masculin   6318   5954   4546   24%
Neutre   8   6   3   50%
Total   6820   6429   4861   24%

By startgroup

Délai   Inscrits   Partants   OK   Tx d'échec
80   1306   1238   1035   16%
84   956   888   683   23%
90   4558   4303   3143   27%
Total   6820   6429   4861   24%

By age

Âge   Inscrits   Partants   OK   Tx d’échec
[17;20]   12   10   6   40%
[21;25]   50   48   41   15%
[26;30]   207   199   164   18%
[31;35]   401   374   327   13%
[36;40]   650   596   489   18%
[41;45]   843   793   629   21%
[46;50]   1072   1010   789   22%
[51;55]   1179   1123   877   22%
[56;60]   1055   999   727   27%
[61;65]   819   777   528   32%
[66;70]   393   370   233   37%
[71;75]   118   112   45   60%
[76;80]   17   15   6   60%
[81;85]   4   3   0   100%
Total   6820   6429   4861   24%

I wish I hadn't seen that! I'll be 70 for the next one, it could be a stupid challenge trying to do my first PBP as a 70th birthday present!
OTOH the roads are too straight, I don't like crowds and pelotons and Mme would undoubtedly enforce the ban on night-riding (and I am not looking for a divorce!). Phew, saved!!

[thing1]

Trackers are not infallible. Mine failed to record in both 2019 and 2023. I rode with Peter Ruffhead who wasn't feeling great. We were well behind schedule at Brest where he packed. I carried on but 35*C heat got to me and with vision issues I bailed at Tinteneac. Disappointing end to my 8th consecutive PBP. And after being out of time on my 7th LEL last year I'm unlikely to be entering either again.
Mel

Sorry to have missed you Mel, but great to hear from you and we enjoyed your cameo in Amy Hudson's video part 1  😁