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laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« on: 12 June, 2024, 11:34:53 am »
My lenovo and my HP Envy before it had issues i could not easily overcome. The biggest issue is / was battery. Put simply the older Envy battery does not work, i have to run it plugged in. The newer lenovo has had a quick draining battery from about 1 year old. It is has hibernate and so on turned off. I have on and off as options including closing the lid going to turn off. It still goes from full charge to nothing when turned off. I now mostly run it plugged in too but if I charge it up I can get a period of time without being plugged in.

So now I am thinking of getting a new laptop quite urgently as I have found out I can not use my secure work laptop for an external course. I think my newest laptop (lenovo) could be used but I am somehow losing trust in it.

I need windows OS, non- negotiable as I have to use MS Office and need compatibility with the software the external training body uses for it's course and online proctoring software.

I need video and microphone / speakers for conferencing. Most will have this so not really a diffcult spec.

No idea of chip, RAM or drive required. Think SSD needed for speed and I tend not to save on cloud services. Onedrive is my nemesis!!! Grrr!! I do have old external drives, USB 2/3 and spinning disk, so can store on that if needed / backup.

I will be using MS office (I have MS365). I use a lot of excel spreadsheets and they can be quite complex with switching between files and tabs. No matter what laptop I have used they always slow down despite doing regular maintenance and keep things up to date. No idea why but even IT specialists with work ones have not sorted the issues out, even with a reboot of OS. So I feel getting a decent spec to find that after slowing it is fast enough, if that makes sense.

I do not need fancy, just functional, reliable and not too expensive. Whilst I like the look of the £3k plus Samsung galaxy notebooks with their connection to other Samsung devices functionality I will never, ever think about getting one. if you can find me a new or as good as new laptop that meets my needs for £200 I would be more happy than if I had to spend £500 as I am sure you will understand. I will spend what I really need but I don't want to fall into the classic mistake of seeing that extra feature available for another £30, then another £30 and so on.

TL:DR
  • laptop
  • Windows OS
  • Video, microphone and speakers for video conferancing
  • Suitable for MS365 software especially large and multiple excel spreadsheets
  • Reliable, especially with the battery
  • Quick delivery / sourcing due to late notification on need for training use
  • Please from somewhere easy to buy from whether that is a national chain (e.g currys) or direct like Dell with next day or fast supply

I have heard Dell are supposed to be reliable, but I have heard the same with lenovo and HP but those two have had issues for me.

Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #1 on: 14 June, 2024, 01:37:39 pm »
Think heavily about a Chromebook. If you use Office365 you dont need Windows
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/how-to-access-microsoft-office-on-a-chromebook-32f14a23-2c1a-4579-b973-d4b1d78561ad

Chromebooks are simple and secure devices.


Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #2 on: 14 June, 2024, 03:08:33 pm »
Think heavily about a Chromebook. If you use Office365 you dont need Windows
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/how-to-access-microsoft-office-on-a-chromebook-32f14a23-2c1a-4579-b973-d4b1d78561ad

Chromebooks are simple and secure devices.
Chromebook is out as my immediate need is to load specialist software which needs windows os. I'm also wary about the need for cloud computing. We've had some patchy broadband in our rural area so I'm not comfortable with chromebook. That may change if B4RN arrives at this end of the village. I know areas other side of our village and the next village on our side is close to getting it but right now there's no sign it's coming here.

Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #3 on: 15 June, 2024, 09:39:46 pm »
I think what you want vs cost and new is an issue.
The ones I linked in the other thread could be decent, but second hand/refurb.
Could you not just buy a new battery for the newer leveno?
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Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #4 on: 15 June, 2024, 09:53:02 pm »
I think you may be over-estimating the requirements to be able to run multiple complex spreadsheets.

Any reasonably current Corporate-spec Dell can do that.
I run huge petrophysical models that would have required heavyweight server-grade hardware spec 10 years ago, but any generic Dell corporate-grade laptop from the last 5 years will run rings around it.

Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #5 on: 16 June, 2024, 11:49:10 am »
So what specs are you thinking?
i5, 8GB ram and .5TB SSD?
My headache in finding a new (refurb) laptop is that i5 != i5 and I have no idea which are ancient and which are good.
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Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #6 on: 18 June, 2024, 08:59:37 am »
Dell are a bit shite these days. Previous work laptop was Dell, and every single one (as in every person in company I work for, hundreds and hundreds of people) had to have the batteries replaced multiple times.

Currently on HP. Not very impressed. Looks great, but many people have reported wifi problems. Bad drivers.

Best laptop I've had in past 11 years was a lenovo thinkpad.

Memory - get 16Gb
Disk - at least 500GB, 1TB is better.
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Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #7 on: 18 June, 2024, 07:29:12 pm »
Got an Asus vivobook on Sunday.

15.6" OLED 120HZ screen,  i5-13500H, 16gb RAM, 512 ssd. W11 home. Intel evolution, whatever that is.

Screen is very vivid indeed!

It's working well for my 8 hour remote training course this week.

What's interesting is everything has AI assistant with it. Allows a kind of interpretive search of the document.

Not tested it with spreadsheets open,  but I've been having about 15 documents, apps, browsers and mail open. Not slowing yet but my old i3 8gb lenovo I got years ago was decent speed when I got it.

Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #8 on: 18 June, 2024, 07:36:22 pm »
So what specs are you thinking?
i5, 8GB ram and .5TB SSD?
My headache in finding a new (refurb) laptop is that i5 != i5 and I have no idea which are ancient and which are good.
AIUI after the i3, i5 or i7 number there's a hyphen then a 4 or 5 digit number then a single or double letter. These signify a few things.

First two numbers give the chip generation which is 13 now. Higher the better.

Next two numbers indicate speed or higher performance, higher the better.  The ones with the extra number you can ignore the last number to get this speed certain

Finally the letter. U means energy efficient,  H means higher performance, P means something else and HX is a kind of even higher performance.

HTH

Re: laptop - what to get with windows OS?
« Reply #9 on: 02 July, 2024, 09:23:04 pm »
Have just bought off the bay a refurbed Lenovo flex 5.
1TB SSD, Ryzen 7, 16GB.  Change for £400.
Nice
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