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Title: The wind...
Post by: andyoxon on 06 February, 2020, 03:19:38 pm
Batten down the hatches for Sunday -  going to be a tad gusty.  Around here in Oxon forecast ~60mph (midday), so probably bike fettling rather than riding, for me.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Chris S on 06 February, 2020, 04:55:23 pm
Another Zwift/Turbo weekend  ::-)
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Post by: bludger on 06 February, 2020, 04:58:30 pm
Sadly I think the Winter Boat Ride might be a no go for me :(

I've never welshed out of a Calendar ride on a weather basis before but super windy fierce noon rain gusts = big oof.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Basil on 06 February, 2020, 05:05:33 pm
Storm Git is predicted to reach us Saturday night, so I'm hoping it won't be to bad for a pootle by Sunday afternoon.
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Post by: JonBuoy on 06 February, 2020, 05:14:56 pm
I am supposed to be doing the 100k Rutland and Beyond audax on Sunday.  I suppose that the 61mph gusts that are forecast will make a nice change from last year's torrential rain or the year before's hail, blizzard and murder enquiry.
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Post by: Redlight on 06 February, 2020, 06:11:10 pm
Not bad weather for a one way ride.... :D
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Post by: PaulF on 06 February, 2020, 06:37:12 pm
There were warnings about it on the M40 today. First time I’ve seen warnings about weather that far into the future on the motorway.
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Post by: Tim Hall on 06 February, 2020, 06:46:47 pm
And will this wind be so mighty as to lay low the mountains of the earth?

Asking for a friend.
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Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 06 February, 2020, 07:24:03 pm
Oh dear!I'm away on a winter hostelling 'ruff stuff'' weekend, up at Hartington Hall, Nr Buxton, up in t'peaks.  Better tighten up the cleats a tad.  I wonder if it will be as bad as a few years ago, we were up at Pinkery YHA, up on top of Exmoor, when storm Imogen hit, no power, no phones, no signal, plenty of beer, and yes , we still went out for a full days ride. I believe that was classed as a hurricane iirc.
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Post by: hellymedic on 06 February, 2020, 07:50:36 pm
And will this wind be so mighty as to lay low the mountains of the earth?

Asking for a friend.

Or brake [sic] down all the rocks?

Asking for a constipated friend.
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Post by: ElyDave on 06 February, 2020, 07:55:02 pm
Last weekend was pretty blowy here as well, my arms were feeling g the after effects on Monday from Saturdays crosswind action.

Turbo this weekend I think.
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Post by: De Sisti on 06 February, 2020, 08:04:33 pm
Not bad weather for a one way ride.... :D
Only if the ride was dead straight with a tailwind and no chance of side-gusts, or falling debris due to the predicted powerful gales.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/CC26/production/_110826225_trees2.jpg)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Basil on 06 February, 2020, 11:01:53 pm
Storm Git is predicted to reach us Saturday night, so I'm hoping it won't be to bad for a pootle by Sunday afternoon.
Bugger!  She's slowed down.  Not due in West Wales until Sunday morning now.
Sunday afternoon probably out.
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Post by: andyoxon on 07 February, 2020, 12:15:51 am
I'm no meteorologist but the long W/E 'transcontinental' isobars, along the massive ridge of high pressure to the south, seem 'unusual'...

https://www.windy.com/-Pressure-pressure?pressure,2020-02-09-15,49.895,-4.922,4,i:pressure
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Post by: rafletcher on 07 February, 2020, 10:37:18 am
This is fun too..

https://www.netweather.tv/charts-and-data/jetstream
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Post by: Chris S on 07 February, 2020, 11:28:44 am
That jet looks mean. Tornadic wind speeds at the core.

The PV has been so strong this winter, it's locked up incredible cold, for a long long time, so the thermal gradients across the jet are just insane1. If/when the PV finally breaks, and if we get a shot of Northerlies, it's gonna get really cold and snowy. Just in time to flatten the daffs at Easter, probably.

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1 Example - Denver earlier in the week, was 75F one day on the south side of this jet, and 30F the next day on the north side.
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Post by: L CC on 07 February, 2020, 12:05:05 pm
One way ride was my plan but I think I'm going to bag some Leeds ish squares and get Northern to bring me home, rather than Ciara. That bitch will blow my fat arse into traffic.
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Post by: andyoxon on 07 February, 2020, 12:34:29 pm
Next week some bits of Irish coast will see an 10 metre swell.
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Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 07 February, 2020, 12:56:32 pm
The gym beckons.. 666
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Post by: rafletcher on 07 February, 2020, 01:22:31 pm
That jet looks mean. Tornadic wind speeds at the core.

The PV has been so strong this winter, i

I read somewhere on that site that the PV was expected to be a record value this year, albeit marginally so.
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Post by: andyoxon on 07 February, 2020, 03:58:54 pm
What's the significance of PV? (Potential vorticity?)
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Post by: spesh on 07 February, 2020, 04:06:22 pm
What's the significance of PV? (Potential vorticity?)

Polar vortex.
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Post by: andyoxon on 07 February, 2020, 04:11:24 pm
What's the significance of PV? (Potential vorticity?)

Polar vortex.

Ah yes. Thanks.  :D   

Potential vorticity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_vorticity) is hard work BTW.  ;)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: IanDG on 07 February, 2020, 04:14:10 pm
Never thought I'd say it but here goes "I'm missing the wind".
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Post by: rogerzilla on 08 February, 2020, 10:31:46 am
Amber warning for most of the south now.  Batten down the hatches.
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Post by: JonBuoy on 08 February, 2020, 10:41:26 am
I am supposed to be doing the 100k Rutland and Beyond audax on Sunday.  I suppose that the 61mph gusts that are forecast will make a nice change from last year's torrential rain or the year before's hail, blizzard and murder enquiry.

Forecast for Oakham is now 40mph average with 75mph gusts and the audax is postponed.  Seems sensible.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: hellymedic on 08 February, 2020, 02:47:47 pm
Never thought I'd say it but here goes "I'm missing the wind".

I think it's like the sound of trains if you have previously lived near a railway; a sound that lulls you to sleep and whose absence is initially weird...
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Post by: Phil W on 08 February, 2020, 03:09:54 pm
Got a ride in today ahead of the forecast wind and heavy rain. Glad I spent 4.5 hours on Tue waterproofing the flat roof. It’s going to get a good test tomorrow.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andyoxon on 08 February, 2020, 04:34:21 pm
Amber warning for most of the south now.  Batten down the hatches.

Here it's set to gust 48-57mph from 0400-1800. (MetOff).  Windy.com using ECMWF, says 60-70mph most of the day...

Just been 'securing' the garden.
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Post by: Chris S on 08 February, 2020, 05:32:42 pm
Cracking afternoon on the Durham Heritage Coast. Bit breezy, but nobody died.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49506575371_7205e7560b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqJ95k)
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Post by: ElyDave on 08 February, 2020, 06:31:01 pm
was a lovely day in east angular today as well, I had the sun-visor in operation on the car
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Post by: Jurek on 08 February, 2020, 06:37:41 pm
Eerily calm out there just now.
99.5% full moon.
Clear sky.
Lull before.....
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Post by: Pingu on 08 February, 2020, 07:10:07 pm
Pretty stormy here and we're about to head out into it. Wish us luck  :-\
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Post by: Chris S on 08 February, 2020, 07:17:22 pm
Pretty stormy here and we're about to head out into it. Wish us luck  :-\

Not on bikes, I hope!
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Post by: Pingu on 08 February, 2020, 10:59:25 pm
Heh. On foot. It was very blowy on the way into town. The wind had dropped for the return home. Still raining though.
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Post by: mattc on 09 February, 2020, 08:21:21 am
The rain at least has stopped for a minute. I may pop out to look at the debris from this morning's BANG.

Meanwhile ...
A few weeks ago the neighbours got a skip to use during a kitchen refit. By yesterday it had reached peak overfilled state. I don't think I need to describe the scene this morning  :facepalm:
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Post by: Redlight on 09 February, 2020, 09:23:33 am
I thought I had secured everything in the garden yesterday but woke up today to find a very large plant pot on its side. Still trying to work out how, as it's in a pretty sheltered position.

Today's entertainment is provided by watching birds attempting to land on the various hanging feeders  ;D
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rogerzilla on 09 February, 2020, 09:24:59 am
Tigs has decided to hide under the bed, as the conservatory is creaking a bit.
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Post by: MikeFromLFE on 09 February, 2020, 11:24:50 am
Horizontal rain from the south here in Leicester. This direction means that the wheelie bins are safe for the time being.
In the past serious wind & rain from SW has breached the Velux windows in the living room, but no sign of that. 66mph reported at East Midlands Airport, and the near neighbours bastard big tree is still standing (more's the pity).
I just wish it wasn't so dark.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andrewc on 09 February, 2020, 11:47:27 am
https://twitter.com/stormkees/status/1226435268535824385?s=20


Dutch headwind cycling....... 
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Post by: nicknack on 09 February, 2020, 11:50:49 am
https://twitter.com/stormkees/status/1226435268535824385?s=20


Dutch headwind cycling.......
;D ;D :thumbsup:
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Post by: IanDG on 09 February, 2020, 11:57:03 am
Fortunately the van escaped without damage - wouldn't happen in Stornoway :o

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49510218721_e5c7da3389_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ir3P7H)P1000467 (https://flic.kr/p/2ir3P7H) by ian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49509711658_e2b24564e7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ir1dof)P1000465 (https://flic.kr/p/2ir1dof) by ian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49510450892_456a30d366_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ir518E)P1000464 (https://flic.kr/p/2ir518E) by ian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/), on Flickr
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Post by: andyoxon on 09 February, 2020, 12:11:37 pm
 :o
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 09 February, 2020, 12:21:28 pm
https://twitter.com/stormkees/status/1226435268535824385?s=20


Dutch headwind cycling.......

Gust forecasts touching 100 steady around 60, fine if you're riding into it or with it on a segregated path that's nowhere near the bigger heavier faster vehicles.

But I'm still slightly freaked out by my issues at Achnasheen in December and Drummochter the other week.

Forecast to reach that here soon, but need another 28k on the gusts to shut the bridge, means I don't have to go to Glenrotten to shop. phew.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: IanDG on 09 February, 2020, 12:51:28 pm
https://twitter.com/stormkees/status/1226435268535824385?s=20


Dutch headwind cycling.......

Gust forecasts touching 100 steady around 60, fine if you're riding into it or with it on a segregated path that's nowhere near the bigger heavier faster vehicles.

But I'm still slightly freaked out by my issues at Achnasheen in December and Drummochter the other week.

Forecast to reach that here soon, but need another 28k on the gusts to shut the bridge, means I don't have to go to Glenrotten to shop. phew.

It's the cross winds that are difficult (and more dangerous). Can be riding along no problem then a side gust hits you and takes you across the road or into the ditch.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: hellymedic on 09 February, 2020, 12:54:37 pm
I thought I had secured everything in the garden yesterday but woke up today to find a very large plant pot on its side. Still trying to work out how, as it's in a pretty sheltered position.

Today's entertainment is provided by watching birds attempting to land on the various hanging feeders  ;D

The mat by the cat flap is too draughty for the cats to be sat on the mat.

The magnetic catch has not been good for a while despite David's attention.

The BSOs and wheelbarrows atop back neighbours' shed have not yet budged. I would not be surprised if we received a BSO by airmail.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Phil W on 09 February, 2020, 12:58:30 pm
Went out in it earlier. Strong winds but not that gusty in Hertfordshire. Certainly not blow you off your feet strong like I’ve experienced in the mountains before. Rain now getting heavier. The flat roof I did some remedial work on at start of week is doing a sterling job at keeping the weather out.
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Post by: Beardy on 09 February, 2020, 01:16:54 pm
The Orwell bridge on the A14 is closed, and I assume that Stack (where they park up the trucks that can’t get,on the ferries) is also in operation.
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Post by: hellymedic on 09 February, 2020, 01:19:45 pm
Trees on the line at Hillingdon and Headstone Lane.

I feel justified advising David to skip the event at a park in Pinner.
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Post by: Ashaman42 on 09 February, 2020, 01:25:05 pm
Some proper clonking from the roof. I hope we don't lose any tiles/the chimney
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 February, 2020, 01:30:14 pm
I noted that BA were cancelling "hundreds" of flights because Wind.  Whoever drives the Met's helichopter is made of sterner Stuffs, as the wretched thing was still out and about at hours 03:30 of the clock this morning.
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Post by: Jaded on 09 February, 2020, 01:31:54 pm
Just propped some things up at mum’s, now off home. Glad that we redid the roof a few years ago...
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Post by: spesh on 09 February, 2020, 01:47:45 pm
I noted that BA were cancelling "hundreds" of flights because Wind.  Whoever drives the Met's helichopter is made of sterner Stuffs, as the wretched thing was still out and about at hours 03:30 of the clock this morning.

That was several hours before the weather warning for high winds was due to apply (from 08:00 to 21:00). ;)

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/warnings-and-advice/uk-warnings#?date=2020-02-09&id=9b547185-76da-486f-9786-760ccd42761d
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Post by: rafletcher on 09 February, 2020, 01:51:49 pm
I noted that BA were cancelling "hundreds" of flights because Wind.  Whoever drives the Met's helichopter is made of sterner Stuffs, as the wretched thing was still out and about at hours 03:30 of the clock this morning.

Was looking on Flightradar24 - Luton appears to be deserted - when I noticed the BA flight from Haneda miss its landing and do a go-around.p  :o They’ve now stacked them over Reigate wait for another slot to be free.

And now the Sau Paulo flight has done the same. Crickey!
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 09 February, 2020, 01:53:18 pm
It's the cross winds that are difficult (and more dangerous). Can be riding along no problem then a side gust hits you and takes you across the road or into the ditch.

Aye, I left that unsaid, when I lost the shelter of the trees at the Ledgowan I was pretty lucky nothing was oncoming as I narrowly avoided hitting the kerb on the offside.
Then at the circle my attempt to turn the bike up the Kinlochewe road resulted in the bike turning towards inverness and my correction had it pointing back to Strathcarron.
My retreat to the Ledgowan was neither stylish nor without difficulty, despite having been on top of Mt Keen with an MTB in gale force winds I've never had the wind lift the bike up like that before.

If I'd made the turn I'd have had 26km of misery pushing into it; was only barely able to walk the bike until I got a lift.
Similar issue to that last one on Drummochter the other week, Coire an Tuirc was being a bit of a funnel which had be pushed to a standstill a couple of times between the Cottage and getting into the shelter of the Boar.  If I hadn't worked out that funnel and that I wasn't too far from topographical shelter I suspect I'd have turned round and gone to Dalwhinnie for a train.

Oh aye that's something else those wind charts don't allow for, Topographic funnelling


I noted that BA were cancelling "hundreds" of flights because Wind.  Whoever drives the Met's helichopter is made of sterner Stuffs, as the wretched thing was still out and about at hours 03:30 of the clock this morning.

Was looking on Flightradar24 - Luton appears to be deserted - when I noticed the BA flight from Haneda miss its landing and do a go-around.p  :o They’ve now stacked them over Reigate wait for another slot to be free.

Someone I know flew to Birmingham this morning, on arrival the pilot abandoned any thought of landing and returned to Geneva.
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Post by: spindrift on 09 February, 2020, 01:57:23 pm
Woke up to this in the back garden:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQVUr0gW4AExt4Z?format=jpg&name=medium)

Forgot I got it in the Argos sale two years ago.
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Post by: Phil W on 09 February, 2020, 01:59:35 pm
I noted that BA were cancelling "hundreds" of flights because Wind.  Whoever drives the Met's helichopter is made of sterner Stuffs, as the wretched thing was still out and about at hours 03:30 of the clock this morning.

If it’s Heathrow the flights are stacked pretty close together 24/7.  With the winds the safe distance between take offs / landings will have increased and flights will need to be cancelled as they won’t all fit.
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Post by: Basil on 09 February, 2020, 02:01:17 pm
Seems to have calmed down a bit here.
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Post by: ElyDave on 09 February, 2020, 02:29:51 pm
https://twitter.com/stormkees/status/1226435268535824385?s=20


Dutch headwind cycling.......

seen that before, we have a road near us, 10 miles or so dead straight into a south-westerly. I suggested we could give it a go here.
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Post by: Phil W on 09 February, 2020, 02:45:20 pm
We have a segregated cycle track through a park here. It’s about a Mike long and straight into the wind at the moment. Perfect.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 09 February, 2020, 03:00:22 pm
Tay Bridge shut to all, that means gusts have reached 130kmh here.
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Post by: Pingu on 09 February, 2020, 03:07:48 pm
It's the cross winds that are difficult (and more dangerous). Can be riding along no problem then a side gust hits you and takes you across the road or into the ditch.

Aye, I left that unsaid, when I lost the shelter of the trees at the Ledgowan I was pretty lucky nothing was oncoming as I narrowly avoided hitting the kerb on the offside.
Then at the circle my attempt to turn the bike up the Kinlochewe road resulted in the bike turning towards inverness and my correction had it pointing back to Strathcarron.
My retreat to the Ledgowan was neither stylish nor without difficulty, despite having been on top of Mt Keen with an MTB in gale force winds I've never had the wind lift the bike up like that before.

If I'd made the turn I'd have had 26km of misery pushing into it; was only barely able to walk the bike until I got a lift.
Similar issue to that last one on Drummochter the other week, Coire an Tuirc was being a bit of a funnel which had be pushed to a standstill a couple of times between the Cottage and getting into the shelter of the Boar.  If I hadn't worked out that funnel and that I wasn't too far from topographical shelter I suspect I'd have turned round and gone to Dalwhinnie for a train.

Oh aye that's something else those wind charts don't allow for, Topographic funnelling


Reminds me of the time I got blown across the road on the ascent to the Lecht on the Wildcat Grimpeur. Feanor otp was given a good shove descending from Glenshee too.
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Post by: mattc on 09 February, 2020, 03:09:29 pm
It's an ill wind ...

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/british-airways-fast-flight-scli-intl-gbr/index.html

London (CNN) — A British Airways (BA) flight has broken the record for the fastest-ever subsonic flight between New York and London, reaching a top speed of more than 800mph (1,287km/h).
The Boeing 747 aircraft flew overnight from Saturday to Sunday and reached its destination in four hours and 56 minutes, as Storm Ciara sped towards the United Kingdom.
The plane landed at Heathrow airport at 4.43 a.m., almost two hours earlier than scheduled. Its top speed during the flight was 825mph (1,327km/h), according to Flightradar24, an online flight-tracking service.
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Post by: hellymedic on 09 February, 2020, 03:09:49 pm
Woke up to this in the back garden:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQVUr0gW4AExt4Z?format=jpg&name=medium)

Forgot I got it in the Argos sale two years ago.

I think the railways received a similar gift...
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Post by: Jurek on 09 February, 2020, 03:20:02 pm
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/british-airways-fast-flight-scli-intl-gbr/index.html

London (CNN) — A British Airways (BA) flight has broken the record for the fastest-ever subsonic flight between New York and London, reaching a top speed of more than 800mph (1,287km/h).
The Boeing 747 aircraft flew overnight from Saturday to Sunday and reached its destination in four hours and 56 minutes, as Storm Ciara sped towards the United Kingdom.
The plane landed at Heathrow airport at 4.43 a.m., almost two hours earlier than scheduled. Its top speed during the flight was 825mph (1,327km/h), according to Flightradar24, an online flight-tracking service.
Trying to get my head around this...
Speed of sound is 767mph.
This aircraft has (allegedly) breached 825mph.
Landed 2 hours earlier than scheduled.
2 hours earlier?
Really ?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ElyDave on 09 February, 2020, 03:20:56 pm
Ground speed not air speed
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Post by: Jurek on 09 February, 2020, 03:24:46 pm
Ground speed not air speed
What?
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Post by: Chris S on 09 February, 2020, 03:27:59 pm
Ground speed not air speed
What?

A plane flies in the air that surrounds it - at whatever speed that plane is rated for - let's say 400mph. That's it's "air speed".

But the air around it is all moving relative to the ground (wind). So if that wind is behind the plane, its speed is added to the speed of the plane to give a "ground speed".The plane still thinks it's going 400mph because it is, relative to the air around it, but the whole lot is moving at 600mph relative to the ground, assuming a tailwind of 200mph.
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Post by: Jurek on 09 February, 2020, 03:31:48 pm
Ah.
Ta.
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: ElyDave on 09 February, 2020, 03:38:20 pm
Which is why they take off and land into the wind. You get the same airspeed at lower ground speed, so you start flying quicker, which is safer than going at that speed on the ground.
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Post by: Phil W on 09 February, 2020, 03:41:31 pm
The speed of sound is also relative to the speed of the medium it is in. So if the air is moving forward at 200 mph then you need to add that to the speed of the sound. So the sound waves propagating forwards  are still ahead of the plane. No sonic boom.

Unlike light the speed of sound isn’t fixed either, depends on medium and temperature as well etc.
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Post by: Jurek on 09 February, 2020, 03:43:25 pm
The sonic boom bit was going to be my next question.  :P

ETA - Am aware of the speed of sound isn’t fixed....
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Post by: rafletcher on 09 February, 2020, 04:02:47 pm
We seem to be in a bit of a lull. The temp, after rising 4 degrees in 12 hours has just dropped 3 in 45 minutes. We even have a bit of blue sky visible, and it’s breezy rather than blowing a hooley.
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Post by: mattc on 09 February, 2020, 04:04:14 pm

Unlike light the speed of sound isn’t fixed either, depends on medium and temperature as well etc.
Well if we're doing Fun Facts ...

Actually light isn't fixed to one speed. The "speed in a vacuum" - or the "c" in the E=mc^2 is the MAXIMUM it can travel. Send it through glass or water, say, and you slow it down. Which leads to refraction and other fun stuff :)
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Post by: Phil W on 09 February, 2020, 04:09:40 pm

Unlike light the speed of sound isn’t fixed either, depends on medium and temperature as well etc.
Well if we're doing Fun Facts ...

Actually light isn't fixed to one speed. The "speed in a vacuum" - or the "c" in the E=mc^2 is the MAXIMUM it can travel. Send it through glass or water, say, and you slow it down. Which leads to refraction and other fun stuff :)

Good point  Duh for me! :facepalm:
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Post by: Jurek on 09 February, 2020, 04:12:11 pm
Which is why they take off and land into the wind. You get the same airspeed at lower ground speed, so you start flying quicker, which is safer than going at that speed on the ground.
Of course.
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Post by: De Sisti on 09 February, 2020, 04:30:21 pm
Woke up to this in the back garden:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQVUr0gW4AExt4Z?format=jpg&name=medium)

Forgot I got it in the Argos sale two years ago.
Need some context, but to me it looks like a perfectly normal kiddy bouncy trampoline in a garden.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: spesh on 09 February, 2020, 04:39:47 pm
Children's trampolines have been known to get airborne in high winds if they aren't properly secured, and end up in another back garden - or on railway lines, as alluded to up-thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=114795.msg2464807#msg2464807).

(one landed on the Sevenoaks-London line: https://www.kentonline.co.uk/sevenoaks/news/trampoline-on-tracks-causes-disruption-221764/)
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Post by: Thor on 09 February, 2020, 04:47:20 pm
(https://2w6kxc22rrr9mabqt1mglgait6-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/trampoline-storm-small.jpg)

Thousands of Brits either lose or gain a trampoline (https://go.shr.lc/31COpfP)

Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Kim on 09 February, 2020, 04:55:53 pm
We have a winner!  https://twitter.com/kisseswithamor/status/1226530918657077251
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Post by: Pingu on 09 February, 2020, 05:05:44 pm
Remember Hurricane Bawbag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRIaKMdO-Vw
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Post by: woollypigs on 09 February, 2020, 05:19:02 pm
Dutch National Headwind Championships abandoned … due to the wind (+ video) http://road.cc/271009 #cycling
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Post by: Beardy on 09 February, 2020, 05:36:13 pm
https://twitter.com/stormkees/status/1226435268535824385?s=20


Dutch headwind cycling.......

seen that before, we have a road near us, 10 miles or so dead straight into a south-westerly. I suggested we could give it a go here.
The problem with dead straight roads in your part of the world is that they are often accompanied by ditches or drains full of water. 😁
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Post by: ian on 09 February, 2020, 05:43:03 pm
The wind is proving that my fixed window isn't fixed. Fortunately, I left a precautionary towel out to soak up the drips (I said it was the window, so for reasons that are unclear, he re-sealed above the frame).

Lots of tree bits on the roads and some mighty puddles (Surrey roads are principally constructed out of holes). Very, very blowy last night. Recent storms seem to have thinned out any unstable trees, we lost the big one at the bottom of our garden (which is a shame) two storms back.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 09 February, 2020, 06:13:57 pm
Dutch National Headwind Championships abandoned … due to the wind (+ video) http://road.cc/271009 #cycling

Quote from: Road CC
The first cyclists heading out on the course at 10am this morning, with the start time brought forward to noon due to the storm being forecast to worsen as the day went on, with gusts of up to 10 kilometres an hour predicted.

Huh?
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Post by: rogerzilla on 09 February, 2020, 06:15:40 pm
I went for a quick walk in the hope of free firewood but all the downed trees are willow, which is almost useless.  I do know where there's a big oak that sometimes sheds branches, if I can get to it before the council does.
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Post by: spesh on 09 February, 2020, 06:21:42 pm
Dutch National Headwind Championships abandoned … due to the wind (+ video) http://road.cc/271009 #cycling

Quote from: Road CC
The first cyclists heading out on the course at 10am this morning, with the start time brought forward to noon due to the storm being forecast to worsen as the day went on, with gusts of up to 10 kilometres an hour predicted.

Huh?

Where do you even start with that? ;D :facepalm:
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Post by: mattc on 09 February, 2020, 06:36:36 pm
We have a winner!  https://twitter.com/kisseswithamor/status/1226530918657077251

Excellent  ;D And this joke was an open-goal, but someone had to make it:
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Post by: ElyDave on 09 February, 2020, 09:05:20 pm
https://twitter.com/stormkees/status/1226435268535824385?s=20


Dutch headwind cycling.......

seen that before, we have a road near us, 10 miles or so dead straight into a south-westerly. I suggested we could give it a go here.
The problem with dead straight roads in your part of the world is that they are often accompanied by ditches or drains full of water. 😁

Just hope there are no crosswinds

I have almost ended up in said ditches several times
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Post by: fuzzy on 09 February, 2020, 11:37:08 pm
Am I the only one a bit fucked off at peoples selfish stupidity after seeing the news footage of the Hastings lifeboat nearly capsizing as it put to sea today to rescue a surfer? Surfing in these conditions? Should have been left to drown.
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Post by: Hot Flatus on 10 February, 2020, 12:18:20 am
I just flew from Amsterdam to LHR. 8.30pm flight. The only KLM flight to London that wasnt cancelled. Needless to say it wasnt a smooth flight.
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Post by: Rowan on 10 February, 2020, 12:28:21 am
Am I the only one a bit fucked off at peoples selfish stupidity after seeing the news footage of the Hastings lifeboat nearly capsizing as it put to sea today to rescue a surfer? Surfing in these conditions? Should have been left to drown.
As someone who has always been attracted to and participated in dangerous sports I have no criticism of him 'giving it a go'.  Did he ask to be rescued or even need rescuing ?   I also don't have a problem with your 'Should have been left to drown' comment, presumably if the rescue services had deemed it too risky to mount the rescue then they would have left him or her to perish, and that is fair enough too. He or she probably knew the risks and were happy to take them.

I certainly have a lot more respect for that surfer, than the idiot I seen today risking the lives and well being of others by driving his oversized SUV at stupidly high speeds on a minor country road.  Presumably if he had piled into another road user and killed them it would be put down as some sort of act of god.

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Post by: rogerzilla on 10 February, 2020, 06:40:20 am
The new-fangled overhead catenary between Swindon and Didcot Parkway has been damaged, so no trains.
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Post by: ElyDave on 10 February, 2020, 08:05:56 am
might be interesting today, geting to LHR by train and then flying north.  Trains to London seem OK so far, but Heathrow Express is a reduced service
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Post by: T42 on 10 February, 2020, 08:07:05 am
This unit is happy to report that our detestable buddleia cowped over at some point during the night, leaving but a meagre twig pointing sadly at the sky.  That vile bush has been waging aggressive war on our front path for the last 20 years, to the extent that to get past one had either to bend sideways from the waist at about 45° or risk getting whacked in the kisser by a wet frond.  It was also a favourite scratching-post of Raz the Larger Lab, whose star turn was waiting until you were passing alongside then ramming his back against it and sending a shower of water down your neck.

No more. Once the bluthery tailings of the storm have passed the chainsaw is coming out.
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Post by: Davef on 10 February, 2020, 08:12:37 am
Am I the only one a bit fucked off at peoples selfish stupidity after seeing the news footage of the Hastings lifeboat nearly capsizing as it put to sea today to rescue a surfer? Surfing in these conditions? Should have been left to drown.
As long as they had their safety belts done up they would be fine - the Shannon class is designed to gently roll over and self right, but it was a long way from that. The dangerous part is later when they do the actual rescue.


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Post by: Legs on 10 February, 2020, 09:07:45 am
BN: A holly tree fell in our paddock yesterday evening.
MBN: Our goose hut and straw shed are right in the area where the tree came down.
GN:
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Post by: rafletcher on 10 February, 2020, 09:19:09 am
Did he ask to be rescued or even need rescuing ?   I also don't have a problem with your 'Should have been left to drown' comment, presumably if the rescue services had deemed it too risky to mount the rescue then they would have left him or her to perish, and that is fair enough too. He or she probably knew the risks and were happy to take them.


I think that shows that you don't understand either the feelings of the persons family and friends, nor the dedication of the volunteer unpaid lifeboat crews and coastguard.
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Post by: Rowan on 10 February, 2020, 10:57:18 am
As someone who has always been attracted to and participated in dangerous sports I have no criticism of him 'giving it a go'.  Did he ask to be rescued or even need rescuing ?   I also don't have a problem with your 'Should have been left to drown' comment, presumably if the rescue services had deemed it too risky to mount the rescue then they would have left him or her to perish, and that is fair enough too. He or she probably knew the risks and were happy to take them.

I certainly have a lot more respect for that surfer, than the idiot I seen today risking the lives and well being of others by driving his oversized SUV at stupidly high speeds on a minor country road.  Presumably if he had piled into another road user and killed them it would be put down as some sort of act of god.

I think that shows that you don't understand either the feelings of the persons family and friends, nor the dedication of the volunteer unpaid lifeboat crews and coastguard.
but it was yourself who made the comment "Should have been left to drown"!

Do you want to ban or regulate all dangerous sports ? Rock climbing only to be performed with top ropes at council approved sites manned by experts to ensure no one tries anything too risky?  no surfing in waves greater than 1 metre? where does it end, compulsory helmets for cyclists ? cyclists banned from 'A' roads

And how do you propose we deal with people who eat too much, drink too much, smoke ?  it could be argued that they may be taking up more than their fair share of NHS time thus putting other peoples lives and health at risk.  I'm not for this nanny state, by all means tell people that things are dangerous, but lets not wrap everyone one up in cotton wool. Life has to be an adventure, and the bigger the adventure the better.

Anyway, looking further than the sensationalist headlines of the of the media who seem to like to exaggerate everything out of all proportions, it would appear the surfer managed to get himself back to shore and did not need rescued. I take my hat off to the lunatic.
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Post by: Jaded on 10 February, 2020, 11:02:50 am
like to exaggerate everything out of all proportions

 :P
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Post by: rogerzilla on 10 February, 2020, 12:44:52 pm
We just had a mega squall with rain and the office lights went out momentarily.  I think we're off grid power now.
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Post by: Pippa on 10 February, 2020, 01:40:09 pm
might be interesting today, geting to LHR by train and then flying north.  Trains to London seem OK so far, but Heathrow Express is a reduced service

Seems OK at the mo. I’m on my third attempt to go transatlantic  :thumbsup:

Yesterday I discovered that exiting an airport when you haven’t actual flown in from anywhere is not at all straightforward.  :facepalm:
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Post by: T42 on 10 February, 2020, 01:48:34 pm
We just had a mega squall with rain and the office lights went out momentarily.  I think we're off grid power now.

Ours went out at 05:15 this morning so I had to get up & stumble round switching off our UPSes then downstairs to stop the Stannah electric chair beeeeeping. Got back to bed and the power came back so I had to get up and set a couple of clocks so as not to have them flashing away.
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Post by: ian on 10 February, 2020, 02:06:57 pm
might be interesting today, geting to LHR by train and then flying north.  Trains to London seem OK so far, but Heathrow Express is a reduced service

Seems OK at the mo. I’m on my third attempt to go transatlantic  :thumbsup:

Yesterday I discovered that exiting an airport when you haven’t actual flown in from anywhere is not at all straightforward.  :facepalm:

This has happened to me a several times in Canada where US immigration is at the airport in Canada (so flights to the US can go via domestic terminals). So you essentially enter the US without leaving Canada.

Then your flight gets cancelled, leaving you essentially to re-enter Canada from the US. And then, the following day, re-enter the US without leaving Canada.

Given bad weather and flight cancellations in that part of the world are hardly a surprise, you might assume they'd be used to this outcome, but they were not and indeed seemed to be deliberately obtuse. I think on nearly every single occasion they were dicks. Sir, we already have you having entered the US... I'd patiently explain the obvious scenario that led to me being back in Canada (on one occasion, all the flights had been cancelled and the airport closed, the airport they worked at) and then they'd make up something about how I was supposed to have done something to somehow inform them of this and then they'd make a big palaver about how they were going to bend the rule to let me back into the country I lived in. I'd like to say the Canadians were a lot better, but they weren't. Conclusive proof, if it were needed, that putting unsuitable people in uniforms and giving them power over other people generally turns them into petty nazis.
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Post by: spindrift on 10 February, 2020, 02:20:44 pm
The winds were fierce when the rain arrived at 5pm yesterday but they pick up again to 40mph+ this evening. It's Ciara nightly.
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Post by: rogerzilla on 10 February, 2020, 02:32:35 pm
Ciaran Stormer?
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Post by: ElyDave on 10 February, 2020, 04:10:48 pm
might be interesting today, geting to LHR by train and then flying north.  Trains to London seem OK so far, but Heathrow Express is a reduced service

Seems OK at the mo. I’m on my third attempt to go transatlantic  :thumbsup:

Yesterday I discovered that exiting an airport when you haven’t actual flown in from anywhere is not at all straightforward.  :facepalm:

So far so good, trains about half an hour late, flight on time, though i expect it will be packed with yesterday's spillover

We just had a mega squall with rain and the office lights went out momentarily.  I think we're off grid power now.

On the lights front, just one blip yesterday, which is a massive step forward from when we moved here with power cuts for days at a time every winter (luckily I was away ;D)
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Post by: ElyDave on 10 February, 2020, 04:13:47 pm
spoke too soon, delayed by an hour, could be worse
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Post by: mattc on 10 February, 2020, 05:14:37 pm
Now hailing.

The winds have been much lighter today, but I'd say the showers have been much more severe than yesterday.

Very glad I got home 30mins ago  :-\
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Post by: rogerzilla on 10 February, 2020, 05:52:58 pm
Sharp snow on the bike home.  Owowow.
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Post by: T42 on 11 February, 2020, 10:09:50 am
Winds lighter but 90 kph gusts still promised. Started to get the chainsaw in fettle to tackle our flattened buddleia then imagined fetching the lighter offcuts from the end of the garden and put it away again.

Lots of long, whippy branches from our willow in the drive but the trunk stayed steady as a rock throughout and no big bits broke off.
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Post by: cycleman on 11 February, 2020, 07:03:27 pm
21 mph with 46 mph gusts in Slough today.  :P
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Post by: Wowbagger on 12 February, 2020, 09:46:26 am
Enough yesterday to cause me to stop for my own safety whilst circumnavigating Southend Civic Centre.
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Post by: andyoxon on 12 February, 2020, 01:32:40 pm
Whole weekend forecast here:  40-50mph gusts, with rain at all times...   :-\
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Post by: ian on 12 February, 2020, 01:34:49 pm
Yesterday, left London Bridge station by the bottom of the Shard. Promptly cycled backwards towards Bermondsey.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 February, 2020, 04:07:18 pm
Absolutely fed up of the wind. Makes cycling to work hard (I've wimped out several days, gone part of the way via train). Blocks kayak training sessions. I could paddle, but couldn't safely carry a kayak in this wind.

This morning, riding to the station, I was struggling to make 10mph into the wind. On a calm day, that effort level would have me doing 20mph.
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Post by: andyoxon on 15 February, 2020, 01:26:03 pm
Storm Dennis factoid.  Now a 'bomb cyclone - having dropped 46mb in 24hrs, and forecast to be 920mb -one of the lowest ever for a NAtlantic storm system...
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Post by: woollypigs on 15 February, 2020, 02:26:39 pm
yet Iceland where the center of the 920mb is just of the coast is "enduring" +3c, some rain and not too bad wind compared to the norm
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Post by: woollypigs on 15 February, 2020, 03:52:32 pm
https://twitter.com/Cromwell606/status/1228651664011415555
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Post by: spesh on 15 February, 2020, 10:04:53 pm
Apparently, assorted media outlets would have us believe that Storm Dennis has opened a portal back to the 17th century.  ;D :facepalm:

Quote
A Royal Navy warship has been dispatched to help in an urgent search for a man in the sea off the Kent coast.

Lifeboats and the coastguard helicopter are scouring the sea near Margate Harbour after reports of a man overboard, HM Coastguard said.

Sixty-gun frigate HMS Winchester is believed to have responded to a relay call and is in the area, according to ship tracking data.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-15/royal-navy-warship-and-lifeboats-searching-for-man-in-sea-off-kent-coast/

A few seconds with a search engine would have told the useless hack that there is no ship bearing that name in service, and it's only the first ship so named (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Winchester_(1693)) (launched in 1693 and lost off Florida in 1695)  that was packing 60 guns* - which made it a fourth-rate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-rate) ship of the line, not a frigate. :demon: ::-)

H/T: https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/1228679518442881025


* The HMS Winchester launched in 1822 was designed for 60 guns, but carried 52 - an early case of "fitted for, but not with".
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Post by: ElyDave on 16 February, 2020, 07:45:31 am
Apparently, assorted media outlets would have us believe that Storm Dennis has opened a portal back to the 17th century.  ;D :facepalm:

Quote
A Royal Navy warship has been dispatched to help in an urgent search for a man in the sea off the Kent coast.

Lifeboats and the coastguard helicopter are scouring the sea near Margate Harbour after reports of a man overboard, HM Coastguard said.

Sixty-gun frigate HMS Winchester is believed to have responded to a relay call and is in the area, according to ship tracking data.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-15/royal-navy-warship-and-lifeboats-searching-for-man-in-sea-off-kent-coast/

A few seconds with a search engine would have told the useless hack that there is no ship bearing that name in service, and it's only the first ship so named (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Winchester_(1693)) (launched in 1693 and lost off Florida in 1695)  that was packing 60 guns* - which made it a fourth-rate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-rate) ship of the line, not a frigate. :demon: ::-)

H/T: https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/1228679518442881025


* The HMS Winchester launched in 1822 was designed for 60 guns, but carried 52 - an early case of "fitted for, but not with".

I was going to say that's pretty impressive for a frigate.  Perhaps it's the new D J Trump "best frigate in the world, period. #making America a laughing stock again"
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Post by: T42 on 16 February, 2020, 08:15:28 am
Returning to the subject of Ciara, the EDF has announced that their wind turbines produced so much electricity that for the first time they were able to export it.
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Post by: rogerzilla on 16 February, 2020, 11:47:32 am
Bewdley's not looking too good

https://www.farsondigitalwatercams.com/locations/bewdley
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Post by: perpetual dan on 16 February, 2020, 02:11:33 pm
We’ve had a bit of fence start leaning this morning. It wasn’t ready to come out, so I propped it up and will worry more when it’s not so crappy out.
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Post by: pcolbeck on 16 February, 2020, 05:33:25 pm
Well not the wind but the mud caused by Storm Dennis:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/51517792

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Post by: CommuteTooFar on 16 February, 2020, 08:13:35 pm
I am a bit annoyed by the BBC courage of Dennis.  They decided before hand where the trouble was going to be and reported from there.  Their Welsh correspondent seemed to be the only one who reported where the actual floods were. (He was confined to Wales).  So the floods in Herefordshire and Shropshire were hardly reported on at all.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 16 February, 2020, 10:02:38 pm
Dundee's been cut off, it's officially windy.

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Post by: Jaded on 16 February, 2020, 11:25:26 pm
I am a bit annoyed by the BBC courage of Dennis.  They decided before hand where the trouble was going to be and reported from there.  Their Welsh correspondent seemed to be the only one who reported where the actual floods were. (He was confined to Wales).  So the floods in Herefordshire and Shropshire were hardly reported on at all.

I wouldn't worry too much, the BBC is soon to be subscription only and we will get our news from FaceBoak pages.
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Post by: Pingu on 16 February, 2020, 11:30:04 pm
Dundee's been cut off, it's officially windy.

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Every cloud...

 ;)
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Post by: De Sisti on 17 February, 2020, 06:35:41 am
I heard on the radio that an estate being built in South Wales (by one of the big housebuilders)
has been flooded before it has been completed. Who in their right mind will buy a property on it?*


*Landlords and property investors trying to increase their portfolios?

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Post by: rogerzilla on 17 February, 2020, 07:13:10 am
Lots.  People buy houses knowing there is nowhere to park their 3 cars.  People are morons.
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Post by: woollypigs on 17 February, 2020, 08:09:37 am
I heard on the radio that an estate being built in South Wales (by one of the big housebuilders)
has been flooded before it has been completed. Who in their right mind will buy a property on it?*


*Landlords and property investors trying to increase their portfolios?


At least 3 new estates near us, is being build in the valley floodplains. On the latest one they are just preparing the ground erm I mean moving mud around in a lake. I can see the headlines to come for the next many a year. If it has taken more than eight years talking and nada regarding getting a food bridge over a busy A road, I don't think any time soon we will see an update to the flood defense up and down valley. Heck they closed one road for 7+ months to update the flood defense there, to only flood 3 weeks after it re opened.
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Post by: Regulator on 17 February, 2020, 10:40:26 am
I walked home from Brinkley (we'd had lunch in the Red Lion pub there - we can recommend it) to Great Shelford yesterday... about 13 miles.  The biggest problem was mud on the footpaths.  But being out in the storm was invigorating.
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Post by: andyoxon on 18 February, 2020, 09:05:58 am
River Wye   :o
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Post by: De Sisti on 18 February, 2020, 04:17:00 pm

But being out in the storm was invigorating.
People were warned well in advance about the storm. Those who get caught out, whilst out and about
should really have heeded the warnings. No sympathy, especially for those whose vehicles become
stranded.

If those people were told they'd be shot if they ventured out in such conditions I'm sure they
:demon:
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Post by: Efrogwr on 18 February, 2020, 11:28:10 pm
There was a waterspout in the Menai Strait.
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Post by: Regulator on 19 February, 2020, 07:07:41 am

But being out in the storm was invigorating.
People were warned well in advance about the storm. Those who get caught out, whilst out and about
should really have heeded the warnings. No sympathy, especially for those whose vehicles become
stranded.

If those people were told they'd be shot if they ventured out in such conditions I'm sure they
:demon:


I went out in it well prepared (dressed correctly) and with a bail out plan. 
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Post by: mattc on 19 February, 2020, 07:11:54 am
There was a waterspout in the Menai Strait.

Cool!
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Post by: Guy on 19 February, 2020, 09:29:57 am
There was a particularly naughty side-gust yesterday afternoon. See the "Have you been knocked off" thread for details
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Post by: CommuteTooFar on 19 February, 2020, 03:37:18 pm
Feel sorry for the fish.  They thought that had found new water but now they are trapped frantically swimming in every decreasing puddles.
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Post by: Basil on 19 February, 2020, 04:19:24 pm
Feel sorry for the fish.  They thought that had found new water but now they are trapped frantically swimming in every decreasing puddles.

I remember that in Llandysul park after the storm Callum flood.
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Post by: andyoxon on 20 February, 2020, 10:35:48 am
Going to be gusting to 30-40+ mph for about the next week here.  :-\  At least no real rain with it this Fri/Sat.
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Post by: The Family Cyclist on 15 March, 2020, 02:06:13 pm
I've had enough of the wind. 30 + mph gusts this afternoon and the forecast for next Saturday is windy again.
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Post by: woollypigs on 15 March, 2020, 03:05:31 pm
Our gable end and front door gets a hammering everytime when the weather is bad. The corner and the layout of the roads on this hill top, just gives the wind a run up before it hits.

This year we have nearly have had a storm every weekend and most have had yellow warning attached.

Which have caused some of the roof tiles to come off. For the first time since we moved in. The house is from 1890's and the survey we had when we moved in seven years ago, we kinda know that nothing but patching have been done since first tile was laid.

Now questions is how much do we want to spend do to mend it. Just relaying, add extra insulation, pop a window in as we have talked about or ....

Cause getting a fella to go up every now and again will cause more damage to the fragile tiles and is just throwing money into a hole.

We knew this would be and issue with time, so not a real problem, it more now we gotta make our mind up and plan and settle on one idea :) cause we don't have money to fix the roof and then later on pop a window in or ...

Oh well at least it is water tight still
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Post by: cycleman on 16 March, 2020, 08:12:34 pm
A few years ago it was the beast from the east.! , now we have the pest from the west  ::-).
We just need the louse from the south and the horse from the north (binky) to compete the set  :)
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Post by: The Family Cyclist on 28 March, 2020, 09:53:29 am
I might not know what day it is. Its the weekend and it's windy
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Post by: diapsaon0 on 28 March, 2020, 10:03:15 am
'The North Wind shall blow, and we shall have snow'.  Certainly feels like it today.
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Post by: sam on 28 March, 2020, 10:09:49 am
<nervous clearing of throat>

A poem.

<Cough> It’s not Corona, honest!

I call it ‘Family Business’.

<long pause screwing up courage>

Get on with it already!
- the only person remaining in the auditorium after I coughed

(https://i.imgur.com/SIfVvoX.jpg)
IMAGE CREDIT (https://www.flickr.com/photos/thirteensteps/6105391829/)

Family Business
Daddy was a wind farmer
his daddy too
Son, he said to me one day,
All this will pass to you.
I gazed upon the turbines
his legacy to me
I didn't have the heart to say
I wanted to be free.
The wind's been good to us
he continued in this vein,
Put food upon our table
gave shelter from the rain.
His chapped and ruddy face
shone proudly as he spoke
recounting all the ways in which
the wind kept us afloat.
I harbored in my heart
something nobody knows
finally I could take no more -
THE FAMILY BUSINESS BLOWS!
He rocked back on his heels,
as if grabbed by a gust
his wounded pride the cross I'd bear
for making such a fuss.
An argument ensued
high on the Beaufort scale
he told me all the reasons why
without the wind I'd fail.
The harder that he raged
the less my sails he blew
eventually he realised
what he already knew.
He went quiet for a bit
and I went quiet as well
the turbines stopped in sympathy
we didn't have to yell.
He sighed and squared his shoulders,
said,
Tell me, what's your plan?
My dream, I said, has always been
to be a weatherman. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPYT9Vyu62A)
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Post by: andyoxon on 16 February, 2022, 09:16:53 pm
Eunice on the way.  Forecast 65-70mph gusts around here midday Fri.   :o
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Post by: IanDG on 16 February, 2022, 09:41:45 pm
on
Eunice on the way.  Forecast 65-70mph gusts around here midday Fri.   :o

Still being battered by Dudley
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Post by: andyoxon on 17 February, 2022, 08:38:00 am
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Fort William, recorded a gust of 101mph
apparently...
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Post by: rafletcher on 17 February, 2022, 12:58:38 pm
My boss has gome down to hei newly purchased holiday / retirement property to await deliveries. Tomorrow, in Bedeford.
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Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 17 February, 2022, 01:13:03 pm
On the plus side - all those wind turbines are chucking out 15GW of electricity at the moment, which if they keep it up will help to lower energy bills.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 17 February, 2022, 01:25:40 pm
I see those In the far south are getting a red warning for what's normal up here.

Dudley proved to only be a two pegger round here but then it was from the west, and the west coast has been hit quite hard.

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Post by: andyoxon on 17 February, 2022, 03:45:13 pm
Some friends have a house on the Cornish coast with a low pitched roof, which needs special 'sealed' tile gaps, as the wind tends to try & lift them, rather than press them flat with a high pitch angle.
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Post by: woollypigs on 17 February, 2022, 04:23:35 pm
Is it a good weekend for the UK version ? https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/the-dutch-headwind-championships-bike-racing-or-simply-a-battle-with-the-elements
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Post by: hatler on 17 February, 2022, 06:08:41 pm
The sailing club have advised that we should ensure the boats are tied down : -

Windy (https://www.windy.com/) is currently forecasting south westerly winds rising to 38kt gusting 70kt at midday on Friday then veering westerly and easing. Like Tim said - if you can, look to securing your boats.
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 17 February, 2022, 06:25:14 pm
On the plus side - all those wind turbines are chucking out 15GW of electricity at the moment, which if they keep it up will help to lower energy bills.

Except for the one in Wales that b0rked in half and fell over the other day (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60390094).
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Post by: quixoticgeek on 17 February, 2022, 07:58:00 pm
On the plus side - all those wind turbines are chucking out 15GW of electricity at the moment, which if they keep it up will help to lower energy bills.

Except for the one in Wales that b0rked in half and fell over the other day (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60390094).

Https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cumbria-60421760

Or the one in cumbria that lost it's wings...

J
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Post by: The Family Cyclist on 17 February, 2022, 08:06:28 pm
The sailing club have advised that we should ensure the boats are tied down : -

Windy (https://www.windy.com/) is currently forecasting south westerly winds rising to 38kt gusting 70kt at midday on Friday then veering westerly and easing. Like Tim said - if you can, look to securing your boats.

I'm not quite as posh as you but did move my canoe off the log store where it lives as didn't want it getting blown off. It is a heavy lump but also 16 foot long so quite a surface area
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Post by: hatler on 17 February, 2022, 08:15:13 pm
:-)   I reckon there's boats in the dinghy park which could be had for about £200.
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 17 February, 2022, 09:22:29 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/NgaFlPU_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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Post by: Wowbagger on 17 February, 2022, 09:31:27 pm
I see those In the far south are getting a red warning for what's normal up here.

Dudley proved to only be a two pegger round here but then it was from the west, and the west coast has been hit quite hard.

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Which is what you would expect. Buildings & trees in the south are not accustomed to >70 mph gusts and are therefore more likely to be damaged than buildings & trees which regularly meet such conditions.
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Post by: Peter on 17 February, 2022, 09:37:43 pm
On the plus side - all those wind turbines are chucking out 15GW of electricity at the moment, which if they keep it up will help to lower energy bills.

Nothing will EVER reduce energy prices.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 17 February, 2022, 10:58:17 pm
I see those In the far south are getting a red warning for what's normal up here.

Dudley proved to only be a two pegger round here but then it was from the west, and the west coast has been hit quite hard.

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Which is what you would expect. Buildings & trees in the south are not accustomed to >70 mph gusts and are therefore more likely to be damaged than buildings & trees which regularly meet such conditions.
Ours demonstrated they aren't good at 100mph northerlies either, take wrsterlies in their strode they'd never get a chance to grow if they didnt

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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2022, 08:51:16 am
Dead calm so far.
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Post by: ElyDave on 18 February, 2022, 09:42:07 am
considering we now have a red warning, it's not as windy as I expected, yet.

I wonder how my colleague who has taken his kinds on holiday to Snowdonia is getting on?
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2022, 09:48:09 am
Picking up now but so far just an averagely strong wind.
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Post by: rafletcher on 18 February, 2022, 09:54:14 am
Windy with a blue sky and sunshine atm. Apparently the roofers turned up to work on the cottage a couple of doors down from ours.  Must be entertaining inside the plastic wrapped scaffolding.
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Post by: Tim Hall on 18 February, 2022, 09:56:13 am
Will this wind be so mighty as to lay waste the mountains of the earth?
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Post by: Polar Bear on 18 February, 2022, 09:57:07 am
Wind is definitely picking up here in Rugby.  The worst is yet to come in a couple of hours apparently.  Looking forward to watching the world fly by ...  🤔
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Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2022, 10:01:18 am
Will this wind be so mighty as to lay waste the mountains of the earth?

Art thou Elijah? Art thou he that troubleth Israel?
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Post by: Beardy on 18 February, 2022, 10:03:38 am
I have a dilemma. The rubbish wheelibin is, like everyone’s on the street, out for collection but the refuse collection technicians haven’t been to empty them. There is no words on the council webby science as to why the RCT are a no show. Do I leave my half full wheelybin on the kerb side in case they decide to wander by?
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Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2022, 10:05:10 am
I would say not. I would imagine that your half-full wheely bin might be an empty wheely bin ere long, and then it might go for a solo perambulation to places unknown.
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Post by: hatler on 18 February, 2022, 10:09:43 am
Not collection day here so the bins are safely nestled in the garage.
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Post by: PeteB99 on 18 February, 2022, 10:17:53 am
Bin day here and about 75% of houses seem to have put them out. Mine are only half full so they can shelter behind the fence for another week.

UK windmap shows it picking up quite nicely down south.

https://www.xcweather.co.uk/GB/observations (https://www.xcweather.co.uk/GB/observations)
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Post by: andyoxon on 18 February, 2022, 10:19:37 am
Watching a squirrel drey which is ~30ft up in the swaying-madly hazel tree.  Pretty well constructed nests...

Had to 'rescue' (push them together) neighbours recycling wheely bins that were fallen & open - about to discharge contents all down the road.
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Post by: Nuncio on 18 February, 2022, 10:25:52 am
We just had a big gust on top of the strong wind, and I saw a neighbour's ridge tile blown off. And the bottom of their gable end fascia is loose and flapping alarmingly. I'll give it a while before I go out to check ours, I think.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2022, 10:34:11 am
According to my weather station, the strongest gust of wind in 2 years occurred on 6th February 2022 at 66kph. So far, today has only yielded 48kph.
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2022, 10:37:21 am
I think you're on the wrong side of the country for this one, Wow. The "red zone" according to what I've seen is south Wales and north Cornwall (and maybe Bristol).
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2022, 10:37:53 am
It's got to recycling bin level here but nothing more as yet.
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Post by: ElyDave on 18 February, 2022, 10:38:53 am
Bin day here and about 75% of houses seem to have put them out. Mine are only half full so they can shelter behind the fence for another week.

UK windmap shows it picking up quite nicely down south.

https://www.xcweather.co.uk/GB/observations (https://www.xcweather.co.uk/GB/observations)

Lakenheath has seen 38mph (61kmh), predictions up to 68
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Post by: hatler on 18 February, 2022, 10:40:15 am
I think you're on the wrong side of the country for this one, Wow. The "red zone" according to what I've seen is south Wales and north Cornwall (and maybe Bristol).
They've added a whole chunk in the London area too.

See this Beeb piece - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60426382
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Post by: Basil on 18 February, 2022, 10:57:43 am
Yeah but they had to do that.  If it's not London it's not news.
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Post by: Basil on 18 February, 2022, 11:01:48 am
Anyway,  as I spent most of yesterday thinking it was Friday, I spent most of the day feeling distinctly underwhelmed. 
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Post by: De Sisti on 18 February, 2022, 11:17:04 am
In these blustery conditions I'm always afraid that my tv aerial will get blown off detached from
its wall bracket and come crashing through my bathroom window (directly below it).
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Post by: Ian H on 18 February, 2022, 11:20:44 am
The wind is playing this old house like a musical instrument. 

I've often stopped at the bakers in Bude (best pasties in Cornwall according to a friend who introduced me to them). I've sat with friends in the little gardens opposite when riding the Kernow & SW 600 permanent. In this tweet the baker is just out of view on the left.
https://twitter.com/BBCDevon/status/1494624248379461639 (https://twitter.com/BBCDevon/status/1494624248379461639)
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Post by: nicknack on 18 February, 2022, 11:28:56 am
It's getting a bit mental here.
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Post by: quixoticgeek on 18 February, 2022, 11:29:36 am

https://www.youtube.com/embed/vPQh1FrbOc0?autoplay=1

Live stream of heathrow planes trying to land...

J
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Post by: hatler on 18 February, 2022, 11:29:41 am
We just had a 75mph gust.
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Post by: Nuncio on 18 February, 2022, 11:39:37 am
The wind is playing this old house like a musical instrument. 

I've often stopped at the bakers in Bude (best pasties in Cornwall according to a friend who introduced me to them). I've sat with friends in the little gardens opposite when riding the Kernow & SW 600 permanent. In this tweet the baker is just out of view on the left.
https://twitter.com/BBCDevon/status/1494624248379461639 (https://twitter.com/BBCDevon/status/1494624248379461639)

Dramatic certainly, but I think the 'miracolously' in 'miraculously no one was injured' is a bit hyperbolic.
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Post by: Jurek on 18 February, 2022, 11:40:31 am

https://www.youtube.com/embed/vPQh1FrbOc0?autoplay=1

Live stream of heathrow planes trying to land...

J
They've had 18 19 20 21 go-arounds so far today
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 February, 2022, 11:40:55 am
In these blustery conditions I'm always afraid that my tv aerial will get blown off detached from
its wall bracket and come crashing through my bathroom window (directly below it).

There is a somewhat rickety TV ærial on the chimney stack that Larrington Towers shares with the neighbouring mansion.  Its presence predates the arrival of both me and the neighbours and it’s certainly not connected to anything in here, so I've no idea who will be responsible if if it decides to go walkabout and comes through the roof of The Sheds or impales next door’s children.
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Post by: Pingu on 18 February, 2022, 11:45:55 am
I think you're on the wrong side of the country for this one, Wow. The "red zone" according to what I've seen is south Wales and north Cornwall (and maybe Bristol).
They've added a whole chunk in the London area too.

See this Beeb piece - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60426382

London! Carrie! [Enough! - Ed]
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Post by: Jurek on 18 February, 2022, 11:49:07 am
It's getting a bit mental here.

I've just had a look at the web-cam on Whitstable beach.
Epic would be an understatement.
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Post by: TimC on 18 February, 2022, 11:54:57 am
I think you're on the wrong side of the country for this one, Wow. The "red zone" according to what I've seen is south Wales and north Cornwall (and maybe Bristol).

The south-east corner, including Essex and Suffolk is also under a ‘Red’ warning.
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Post by: andyoxon on 18 February, 2022, 12:04:24 pm
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At The Needles on the Isle of Wight, an exposed wind gust of 122mph (196km/h) has been recorded
   :o
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Post by: TimC on 18 February, 2022, 12:06:03 pm
It’s gusting 60kts (69 mph) at Stansted just now. The peak winds are expected around 14-1500 here, so I would expect to see more than that.

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At The Needles on the Isle of Wight, an exposed wind gust of 122mph (196km/h) has been recorded
   :o

Must be fake news as it’s not up north. 😜
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Post by: nicknack on 18 February, 2022, 12:16:27 pm
Just lost about 3m of guttering.
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Post by: woollypigs on 18 February, 2022, 12:20:31 pm
Live from Heathrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQh1FrbOc0 The fella just told a TV station to standby as there was a big A380 landing LOL
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Post by: perpetual dan on 18 February, 2022, 12:23:32 pm
I brought our empty wheelie bin in, as it was getting blown into the street from it's sheltered and wedged in corner. The fence is flapping a bit, and the wires whistling.

Brighton beach is looking splashy https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/united-kingdom/england/brighton/brighton-pier.html (https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/united-kingdom/england/brighton/brighton-pier.html)
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Post by: Jurek on 18 February, 2022, 12:32:22 pm
Live from Heathrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQh1FrbOc0 The fella just told a TV station to standby as there was a big A380 landing LOL

That A380 has already aborted two attempts.
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Post by: andyoxon on 18 February, 2022, 12:33:44 pm
Live from Heathrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQh1FrbOc0 The fella just told a TV station to standby as there was a big A380 landing LOL

Just had a peek, & saw Qatar A380 have to abort landing again. 
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 February, 2022, 12:35:18 pm
Watched a 787 landing on that LHR wossname a few minutes ago.  That amount of dihedral bain't be natural even in calm conditions.
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Post by: TimC on 18 February, 2022, 12:40:04 pm
Just collected some slates off the roof of the pub next door. It’s about 50-60 metres from my patio, so that’s quite a throw! I’d estimate its gusting 75-80 mph just now. The power’s been off for a while after several false starts. I’m glad I’m not one of those trying to get into Heathrow just now!
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 18 February, 2022, 12:41:17 pm
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At The Needles on the Isle of Wight, an exposed wind gust of 122mph (196km/h) has been recorded
   :o
That's cairngorm summit stuff...
But then that's also without the switch from sea to land to slow it down so.

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Post by: FifeingEejit on 18 February, 2022, 12:45:30 pm
So far it's been disappointing here, but up the hill hidden by the clouds there's a good covering

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Post by: Basil on 18 February, 2022, 12:50:23 pm
The noise being generated by the woods on the opposite side of the valley is astonishingly loud.  It's s good job they're not in leaf.
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Post by: andyoxon on 18 February, 2022, 12:51:00 pm
O2 London dome has lost part of roof...

https://twitter.com/trevor_fowler/status/1494654723676327939?s=20&t=Yg7rgZ07c6qjXjXV0vf4nA

edit.  Wonder how much will be left by later this pm.
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Post by: Basil on 18 February, 2022, 12:57:08 pm
Crikey.  And there's me worrying about my daffs.
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2022, 01:01:49 pm
We haven't even lost a recycling box so far. All a bit of a let down really! I've concluded that not only is Bristol in the wind shadow of the Brecon Beacons etc, but this particular house is sheltered because it's on the northeast slope of a (small) hill. I expect it's getting a bit blowy up on El Dub and round the Purdown transmitter tower though.
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Post by: T42 on 18 February, 2022, 01:02:12 pm
We're just getting the southern edge of the storm, gusts up to 70-75 kph forecast for later today - chickenfeed unless you're riding in it.  During our 200 kph hurricane back in 1999 we lost half the barn roof.
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Post by: woollypigs on 18 February, 2022, 01:09:00 pm
Nothing here other than some rain and sleet. So the calm before the thing
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Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2022, 01:12:06 pm
My weather station has reported 79kph in the past half hour.  It is not well sited, being too low and on the east side of an adjacent yew tree, so it would have been quite a bit more.
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Post by: quixoticgeek on 18 February, 2022, 01:32:10 pm
Live from Heathrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQh1FrbOc0 The fella just told a TV station to standby as there was a big A380 landing LOL

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=114795.msg2701701#msg2701701
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Post by: SteveC on 18 February, 2022, 01:37:40 pm
So far one fence panel damaged (and replacing that was on MrsC's list of thing she wants done in the garden).
More seriously, I've had to phone the brewery to say I can't get in and collect my beer.  :o
Currently there is a road blocked in this village, and one in each of the two villages on either side of us.
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Post by: Basil on 18 February, 2022, 01:39:26 pm
I think we're over the worst here.
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Post by: quixoticgeek on 18 February, 2022, 01:41:56 pm
I think we're over the worst here.

Where is here? So i can gauge how much longer I've got to endure...

J
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Post by: Basil on 18 February, 2022, 01:47:45 pm
Llandysul, South Ceredigion.  So a long way west of you.

Just dicovered we have no mobile.  I can see the mast from the kitchen window, it is still standing.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 18 February, 2022, 01:47:55 pm
Ventuskys icon render is showing it dark read around the ij until 3am

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Post by: woollypigs on 18 February, 2022, 01:55:04 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL4gvaNXwAYD9wK?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Post by: ian on 18 February, 2022, 01:55:42 pm
Calming here. A big chunk of epiphyte fell off one of the trees and bounced off the garage roof, the hole in the front fascia from the last storm (I'm brewing up a rant) doesn't seem any worse. If it could all stop, I'll be happier. Some epic gusts earlier and we live on the side of a steep hill so are completely exposed. I think my entire office shook a few times.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 18 February, 2022, 02:30:51 pm
Some wee shites were throwing snowballs at the hoose earlier, I stood at the window and realised I haven't learnt how to make the angry old man at the window gesture yet.

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Post by: De Sisti on 18 February, 2022, 02:42:32 pm
Some recklessness here:
Coastguard officers tell swimmers to get out of the sea
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/2/18/6b940cc2-6953-4e66-b1e4-c94b8a107cc1.jpg)
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Post by: quixoticgeek on 18 February, 2022, 02:43:32 pm

7 floors up, and the wind is making the building shake rather a lot.

Had to move to laying in bed as trying to watch stuff on the screen in the living room was not working too well cos the screen was shaking too much.

J
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Post by: PeteB99 on 18 February, 2022, 02:48:28 pm
Some recklessness here:
Coastguard officers tell swimmers to get out of the sea
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/2/18/6b940cc2-6953-4e66-b1e4-c94b8a107cc1.jpg)

New Brighton. You've got to be a bit mad to live there.
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Post by: TimC on 18 February, 2022, 02:51:57 pm

7 floors up, and the wind is making the building shake rather a lot.

Had to move to laying in bed as trying to watch stuff on the screen in the living room was not working too well cos the screen was shaking too much.

J

1 floor up and my place is shaking quite a lot. Laying in bed as there's absolutely nothing else to do with no power! And this laptop ain't going to last much longer.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 February, 2022, 02:52:38 pm
Some recklessness here:
Coastguard officers tell swimmers to get out of the sea
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/2/18/6b940cc2-6953-4e66-b1e4-c94b8a107cc1.jpg)

If they are experienced surfers or swimmers, those conditions aren't too bad. I've swum in worse.
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Post by: ian on 18 February, 2022, 02:55:21 pm
That's just like my swimming pool when a fat person jumps in.
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Post by: PeteB99 on 18 February, 2022, 02:55:52 pm
Depends on the tide state. The ebb runs past there at about 5 knots max. 20 strokes and you're at the Bar lightship
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Post by: Flite on 18 February, 2022, 02:59:45 pm
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Just dicovered we have no mobile.  I can see the mast from the kitchen window, it is still standing.

But does it have power? After Arwen it took a week to get electric restored to the one and only mast that serves the dale.
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Post by: hatler on 18 February, 2022, 03:11:24 pm
Bugger, we have a bit of drainpipe dangling.  I know what I'm doing tomorrow.
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Post by: woollypigs on 18 February, 2022, 03:13:29 pm
Ah the rain is now hammering on the front door, and bins are rolling down the hill, so the storm is here
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Post by: Beardy on 18 February, 2022, 03:19:27 pm
Damn wind has broken my Ethernet cable that runs from my ‘modem’ to my Ethernet and Wi-Fi hubs. network via a cable up the outside of the house.

And all the trains on the Greater Anglia network have been cancelled as well.
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Post by: Peter on 18 February, 2022, 03:28:36 pm

Up here in Not London (Rochdale) the BBC weather site says we've got 4 degrees and winds of 52mph, with light rain showers.  Unfortunately the devil is in the detail: Winds of 52mph make light showers feel like walking into a blizzard of tacks and wind chill has us down to -1, which I can believe.  The wood pigeons are sitting in the tree opposite our house quite serenely as the tree is blown violently back and forth.  Otherwise, pretty normal for summer here.
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Post by: Jurek on 18 February, 2022, 03:35:53 pm
I no longer have a fence at the bottom of my garden.
No matter.
It was overdue for replacement.
I've just saved Gary (my tame fencist) the trouble of taking it down.
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Post by: rafletcher on 18 February, 2022, 03:36:55 pm
Calming here in Leafy Bucks. We’ve escaped damage to out 1840’s end terrace. Our neighbours 1960’s detached had lost a ridge tile, and a length of uPVC soffit the previous incumbent had put up to disguise the rotten wood beneath. And the scaffold at our neighbours has held up, although it seems it’s getting some fettling. The plastic sheeting has seen better days though. 

ETA, sheeting was taken down, so I guess the roof is finished. Still got the corrugated sheet cover but the winds just a string breeze now.
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Post by: Jurek on 18 February, 2022, 03:43:26 pm
It's extraordinary how calm it has become here.
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Post by: Tim Hall on 18 February, 2022, 03:43:36 pm
We've knocked Scouts on the head for tonight, as it's not really essential travel. Back to Zoom, which we got good at over the past year or so.
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Post by: rogerzilla on 18 February, 2022, 03:45:15 pm
Not as bad as expected here, although apparently there is quite a bit of damage around the town.
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Post by: rogerzilla on 18 February, 2022, 03:47:19 pm
Some wee shites were throwing snowballs at the hoose earlier, I stood at the window and realised I haven't learnt how to make the angry old man at the window gesture yet.

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: citoyen on 18 February, 2022, 03:53:54 pm
Our power went off a couple of hours ago and we’ve lost a few roof tiles.

Being on top of a hill is not great right now.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 18 February, 2022, 03:54:45 pm
Accents off a bit.

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Ashaman42 on 18 February, 2022, 04:04:07 pm
Lots of clattering from the roof tiles through the day but I thought we'd got away with it.

Just been out for a look and the gable end ridge tile is halfway down the roof.  :facepalm: Going to have to hope it doesn't take out the gutter (or the gas line going up the wall) when it works the rest of the way down. I don't have a ladder big enough and even if I did I'm not going up that high in this wind - I'm only little and would likely fall to my doom.  :hand:

Guess I'm going to have to GAMI but I can't see anyone else wanting to go up a ladder for the next couple days given the forecast and we're due rain tomorrow. I guess I just have to hope that not too much water gets in if it does rain. At least it's the peak so most of the rain should drain away rather than being funnelled in. Right?

Dagnammit.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2022, 04:08:42 pm
We seem to be OK. Neighbour (across the road) has lost a fence - the same neighbour who lost a birch tree in June 2019. A couple of quite big trees are down in the park and one of them, a lime that must have been coppiced about 150 years ago, has brought a load of yew down with it. Quite a ot of other tree debris around, but the anglers were still angling in an unperturbed sort of way.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: SteveC on 18 February, 2022, 04:11:28 pm
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=7535813636436196&set=gm.4443792769059139 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=7535813636436196&set=gm.4443792769059139)
That's two of my three regular running routes b******d for the next few days then.

(Apoiogies for the FB link, but's not my photo)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 18 February, 2022, 04:21:21 pm
Can't see it, but as things stand a number of routes round here are still majorly fucked from Arwen.

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: hatler on 18 February, 2022, 04:25:00 pm
Had to go up to retrieve the dangling drain pipe. It was secured by ziptie to the solar panel cable, and it was that attachment which stopped it falling. Given that it was dangling over the kitchen skylight I thought it better to bring it down in a controlled manner.

Getting the ladder up from the kitchen roof to the top gutter was quite interesting. Anyhow, all sorted now. I just have to go back up again tomorrow to replace the downpipe.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: nicknack on 18 February, 2022, 04:38:17 pm
A friend of mine has lost 11 trees.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ElyDave on 18 February, 2022, 04:59:25 pm
I no longer have a fence at the bottom of my garden.
No matter.
It was overdue for replacement.
I've just saved Gary (my tame fencist) the trouble of taking it down.

I'm surprised mine is still here.  Back garden is usualy a wind alley, but it seems to be at a slightly different angle today.

I thought the trampoline was about to go at one point, and it's still blowing pretty hard, but no obvious damag.  I'll be running on the treadmill tonight though
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: De Sisti on 18 February, 2022, 05:17:21 pm
O2 London dome has lost part of roof...

https://twitter.com/trevor_fowler/status/1494654723676327939?s=20&t=Yg7rgZ07c6qjXjXV0vf4nA (https://twitter.com/trevor_fowler/status/1494654723676327939?s=20&t=Yg7rgZ07c6qjXjXV0vf4nA)

edit.  Wonder how much will be left by later this pm.
I wonder if the company that sponsors the dome will pair for repairs? Wind damage isn't covered
by insurance (at least in mine it isn't, as I can't claim for fence panel damage)?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: De Sisti on 18 February, 2022, 05:22:21 pm
Some recklessness here:
Coastguard officers tell swimmers to get out of the sea
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/2/18/6b940cc2-6953-4e66-b1e4-c94b8a107cc1.jpg)

If they are experienced surfers or swimmers, those conditions aren't too bad. I've swum in worse.
Foolhardy, especially if the advice is not to go out (in those conditions). No matter how good the
swimmers are, if they begin to struggle in those conditions (and it's not impossible for it to happen) then the lifeboat crew have to put their lives in danger in order to bail out those that have been reckless.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2022, 05:30:07 pm
We haven't even lost a recycling box so far. All a bit of a let down really! I've concluded that not only is Bristol in the wind shadow of the Brecon Beacons etc, but this particular house is sheltered because it's on the northeast slope of a (small) hill. I expect it's getting a bit blowy up on El Dub and round the Purdown transmitter tower though.
Went up to the Downs later and it was much windier. No trees down though and lots of people about, including a woman on an e-bike. But on the other side of the Downs several fences down. Not only is that west facing, it's an area of large houses with spacious gardens, so much less urban buffering effect than the terraces down here.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Hot Flatus on 18 February, 2022, 05:39:33 pm
Just had a power cut.
For about 60 seconds.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2022, 05:40:03 pm
I've just been watching a video on FB of a guy kitesurfing over Southend Pier.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 18 February, 2022, 06:09:49 pm
Pretty much all of Suffolk is without power. UK Power are suggesting they’ll get it back in the early hours, but I’d be surprised if the wind drops enough for them to work on the HT transmission lines that have come down. I’m guessing those of us in the more rural parts will be unelectrified for a couple of days. That’s a bummer when your house is electric only!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2022, 06:40:53 pm
Popped into Alpkit today, they said they'd been closed all morning, only opened in the afternoon. Reason – they all cycle in and so had been sheltering at home!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: markcjagar on 18 February, 2022, 06:41:16 pm
There was a power cut at work, in Sheffield. I'd only done 2 hours. It wasn't too bad on the walk to work but it was dead windy on the walk back.

It's still really blowy now. No idea what the speed actually is but BBC weather says 58 mph. I can hear it through the chimney.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2022, 06:41:33 pm
Pretty much all of Suffolk is without power. UK Power are suggesting they’ll get it back in the early hours, but I’d be surprised if the wind drops enough for them to work on the HT transmission lines that have come down. I’m guessing those of us in the more rural parts will be unelectrified for a couple of days. That’s a bummer when your house is electric only!
Isn't your house thatched? So at least you've got a plentiful supply of fuel...  :o
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 February, 2022, 06:53:28 pm
Will this wind be so mighty as to lay waste the mountains of the earth?

You'll 'ave ter speak a little more loudly, please!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Beardy on 18 February, 2022, 07:23:57 pm
Pretty much all of Suffolk is without power. UK Power are suggesting they’ll get it back in the early hours, but I’d be surprised if the wind drops enough for them to work on the HT transmission lines that have come down. I’m guessing those of us in the more rural parts will be unelectrified for a couple of days. That’s a bummer when your house is electric only!

I seem to have avoided the loss of electrons in this part of Suffolk.  :smug:

Not completely issue free though. Apart from the Ethernet cable reported earlier, I’ve had to shore up the second sheds broken door and the fence between me and the youngsters next door seems to be finally giving up the fight for survival. I have planted a hedge to replace this fence and Mrs youngest next door has said that Mr Youngster next door would attend to the fading fence. He hasn’t found sufficient tuits yet, so I suspect I’ll have to go around there in the coming days and remove the remnants.  ::-)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 February, 2022, 07:30:16 pm
November: Scotland gets battered by Arwen. Not much of a dent in the UK media.
Today: England gets a similar storm and we get a C4News storm Eunice special  ::-)
 
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: De Sisti on 18 February, 2022, 07:31:37 pm
October: Scotland gets battered by Arwen. Not much of a dent in the UK media.
Today: England gets a similar storm and we get a C4News storm Eunice special  ::-)
Only because it affected London.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Basil on 18 February, 2022, 07:36:56 pm
Well, we're usually prime candidates for a power cut, but we seemed to have escaped.  Probably due to all the  power cut prepping I did.
Plenty of others not so lucky judging by the number of people in the pub.
I reckon most of them are  where one partner has secretly hit the main breaker.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Pingu on 18 February, 2022, 07:52:33 pm
October: Scotland gets battered by Arwen. Not much of a dent in the UK media.
Today: England gets a similar storm and we get a C4News storm Eunice special  ::-)
Only because it affected London.

London! Car...

Omnes: Shut! Up!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ian on 18 February, 2022, 08:02:51 pm
October: Scotland gets battered by Arwen. Not much of a dent in the UK media.
Today: England gets a similar storm and we get a C4News storm Eunice special  ::-)
Only because it affected London.

To be fair, around twice as many people live in London as Scotlandshire. Plus there are no bears in Scotland.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Auntie Helen on 18 February, 2022, 08:17:35 pm
Mum in Witnesham (north of Ipswich) had a power cut for about an hour.

Here in Germany it is really blowy now and the local farmer’s huge barn wall has crumbled inwards. He was refurbing it and had just built a metal frame with a new roof and was meant to be tidying up the brickwork of the old wall. It’s now lying on the ground so he gets to start again.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ElyDave on 18 February, 2022, 08:46:43 pm
power all good here in East CAmbs, within spitting distance (especially in this wind) of Suffolk
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 18 February, 2022, 08:56:17 pm
October: Scotland gets battered by Arwen. Not much of a dent in the UK media.
Today: England gets a similar storm and we get a C4News storm Eunice special  ::-)
Only because it affected London.

London! Car...

Omnes: Shut! Up!
To be fair
A gust record offshore of 122mph is a normal day at the top of the massively in land cairngorm.

If that London built their l houses properly and their trees grew proper roots a piddly westerly like this would barely worry them

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2022, 09:19:46 pm
I've just been watching a video on FB of a guy kitesurfing over Southend Pier.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/19933380.daredevil-kitesurfer-becomes-first-kite-surf-pier/?action=success#comments-feedback-anchor
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andyoxon on 18 February, 2022, 09:55:19 pm
October: Scotland gets battered by Arwen. Not much of a dent in the UK media.
Today: England gets a similar storm and we get a C4News storm Eunice special  ::-)
Only because it affected London.

London! Car...

Omnes: Shut! Up!
To be fair
A gust record offshore of 122mph is a normal day at the top of the massively in land cairngorm.

If that London built their l houses properly and their trees grew proper roots a piddly westerly like this would barely worry them

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'Grim up north' is never in doubt.  ;)  In 1987 storm, I slept right through in London, then woke to find huge collapsed scaffolding right outside.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 February, 2022, 10:05:39 pm
October: Scotland gets battered by Arwen. Not much of a dent in the UK media.
Today: England gets a similar storm and we get a C4News storm Eunice special  ::-)
Only because it affected London.

London! Car...

Omnes: Shut! Up!
To be fair
A gust record offshore of 122mph is a normal day at the top of the massively in land cairngorm.

If that London built their l houses properly and their trees grew proper roots a piddly westerly like this would barely worry them

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Yebbut we don't all live at the summit of Cairngorm do we.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 18 February, 2022, 10:13:41 pm
They don't live at the needles either do they

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: JellyLegs on 18 February, 2022, 10:15:20 pm
Pretty much all of Suffolk is without power. …. …. I’m guessing those of us in the more rural parts will be unelectrified for a couple of days.

Same for parts of Essex.  I spoke with a UK Power engineer at a job earlier where about a hundred metres of HT cables were on the ground and entangled in/under a row of fallen trees. He wasn’t expecting power to be restored for at least 24 hours, maybe more.  He was just intent on making it safe for now.  Not sure it’s a competition with other parts of the UK given differences in geography and population density.  Essex Fire and Rescue Service are saying it has been their busiest day for 30 years which gives some perspective even if every man and his dog has a mobile and that means any highly visible incident generates far more calls than it would have done in 1992.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 February, 2022, 11:12:52 pm
Big jet:
Holy carp, if this footage is for real, I really didn't need to know the pilot is 'steering' one handed
https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/1494730533082963975?t=gjsguUDFuR40GehFpBwNZg&s=19
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Kim on 18 February, 2022, 11:29:22 pm
Big jet:
Holy carp, if this footage is for real, I really didn't need to know the pilot is 'steering' one handed
https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/1494730533082963975?t=gjsguUDFuR40GehFpBwNZg&s=19

Don't worry, I expect his feet are going a fair bit too...
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 February, 2022, 11:31:27 pm
Oh I didn't even think about feet. Is it like one of those big organs?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Kim on 18 February, 2022, 11:36:00 pm
Feet do the rudder via two pedals, which I believe becomes particularly important just before touchdown...
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 19 February, 2022, 12:25:11 am
That's a whole lotta nope from me
That video of the elbe ferry nose diving into a trough and losing its bow windaes, absolutely fine...

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 February, 2022, 01:22:43 am
Doubtless TimC will be along when he gets his electricity back but AFAIK Airbuses are always driven one-handed coz they use a side-stick instead of the yoke used by Boeing.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ian on 19 February, 2022, 02:02:54 am
Oh I didn't even think about feet. Is it like one of those big organs?

I must not. I must not. I must not.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ElyDave on 19 February, 2022, 05:59:19 am
Doubtless TimC will be along when he gets his electricity back but AFAIK Airbuses are always driven one-handed coz they use a side-stick instead of the yoke used by Boeing.

And one hand on the throttles, ready for either go-around or full reverse thrust
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rogerzilla on 19 February, 2022, 07:20:24 am
Went out for a walk after work to see the damage.  A few fences completely down, a garden wall blown over, and someone's ridge tile missing.  Not much, really.  There has been more severe damage in and around the town centre.  One thing about dull suburban estates is that the wind tends not to be accelerated around large buildings and around the corners of long terraced streets (which can suck off gable ends).
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Beardy on 19 February, 2022, 08:03:14 am
Big jet:
Holy carp, if this footage is for real, I really didn't need to know the pilot is 'steering' one handed
https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/1494730533082963975?t=gjsguUDFuR40GehFpBwNZg&s=19
Some modern jets have replaced the yoke with a side mounted joystick  ;D
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Hot Flatus on 19 February, 2022, 08:22:47 am
Quarter of a million houses without power, and 4 dead.

Just in case anybody tries to say it was nothing.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: The Family Cyclist on 19 February, 2022, 09:25:55 am
Our fence is slightly wonky. Neighbours is largely gone between her and the next garden. Well The Hazel privacy screen is gone the lower chain link is still there. The owner about three owners back put up the higher one as wanted privacy and then moved. The one on the other side of that garden is undamaged which I'm glad about as helped the owner before the current one replace the panels about two years ago.

Not sure what will happen as pretty sure the fence that's taken the hammering is the responsibility of my Neighbour who rents from a penny pinching landlord and technically there is still a fence and the other house was sold just waiting to move so not sure how bothered they will be. It's a nice neighbourly road and qe all chat over fences so a low one would actually be better
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Feanor on 19 February, 2022, 09:34:02 am
Our fence is slightly wonky. Neighbours is largely gone between her and the next garden. Well The Hazel privacy screen is gone the lower chain link is still there. The owner about three owners back put up the higher one as wanted privacy and then moved. The one on the other side of that garden is undamaged which I'm glad about as helped the owner before the current one replace the panels about two years ago.

Not sure what will happen as pretty sure the fence that's taken the hammering is the responsibility of my Neighbour who rents from a penny pinching landlord and technically there is still a fence and the other house was sold just waiting to move so not sure how bothered they will be. It's a nice neighbourly road and qe all chat over fences so a low one would actually be better

Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offense.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Diver300 on 19 February, 2022, 10:13:34 am
Doubtless TimC will be along when he gets his electricity back but AFAIK Airbuses are always driven one-handed coz they use a side-stick instead of the yoke used by Boeing.

And one hand on the throttles, ready for either go-around or full reverse thrust
This ^.  He would not want to put himself in the position where he would have to let go with one hand in order to add or remove power.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jaded on 19 February, 2022, 10:31:30 am
Quarter of a million houses without power, and 4 dead.

Just in case anybody tries to say it was nothing.

Indeed. The overreaction cnuts are out in force.

If we had san actual government just now, they might have said something magisterial. Unfortunately the head of government was given a set of crayons and some boxes to colour in on a Police questionnaire.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: T42 on 19 February, 2022, 10:34:56 am
Doubtless TimC will be along when he gets his electricity back but AFAIK Airbuses are always driven one-handed coz they use a side-stick instead of the yoke used by Boeing.

Aye well Boeings need a two-handed yoke so that the pilot can better fight the software.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jaded on 19 February, 2022, 10:49:40 am
The Big Jet clips I've seen are completely spoiled by the moronic shouts from behind the camera.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 February, 2022, 11:00:08 am
Big jet:
Holy carp, if this footage is for real, I really didn't need to know the pilot is 'steering' one handed
https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/1494730533082963975?t=gjsguUDFuR40GehFpBwNZg&s=19
Some modern jets have replaced the yoke with a side mounted joystick  ;D

I wish I'd said that!  Oh, wait… (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=114795.msg2701973#msg2701973) :P
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: De Sisti on 19 February, 2022, 11:05:44 am
I wonder where the trampoline ended up?

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/53C1/production/_123314412_073970892.jpg)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 19 February, 2022, 11:07:33 am
Pretty much all of Suffolk is without power. …. …. I’m guessing those of us in the more rural parts will be unelectrified for a couple of days.

Same for parts of Essex.  I spoke with a UK Power engineer at a job earlier where about a hundred metres of HT cables were on the ground and entangled in/under a row of fallen trees. He wasn’t expecting power to be restored for at least 24 hours, maybe more.  He was just intent on making it safe for now.  Not sure it’s a competition with other parts of the UK given differences in geography and population density.  Essex Fire and Rescue Service are saying it has been their busiest day for 30 years which gives some perspective even if every man and his dog has a mobile and that means any highly visible incident generates far more calls than it would have done in 1992.

Surprisingly, we got power back in the early hours and it seems pretty stable even though it's still fairly blustery. Of course, when it came on everything in my house lit up and made noises so that ended my kip. I'd gone to bed at some silly early time, so I'd had a decent night's sleep but I'm fading now!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: nicknack on 19 February, 2022, 11:11:53 am
The road about 200m from here is blocked by a large horizontal tree. Openreach are currently trying to disentangle a number of telegraph lines from it. There's no great rush to remove it cos there's an easy get around for traffic. I expect the council tree removal experts are a bit busy.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 19 February, 2022, 11:18:22 am
Doubtless TimC will be along when he gets his electricity back but AFAIK Airbuses are always driven one-handed coz they use a side-stick instead of the yoke used by Boeing.

Indeed.

Feet do the rudder via two pedals, which I believe becomes particularly important just before touchdown...

If you have a crosswind, you have to use the rudder to 'kick off' the drift so you touch down pointing the same way as the runway. The finesse is in doing that so that the main wheels touch before the aeroplane starts to move downwind. That can be aided by using into-wind aileron to fly the aeroplane skew-wiff relative to the air (cross-controlled is the proper term) but straight relative to the ground. The usefulness of this technique is directly proportional to the ground clearance of the engine pods, though at the point of flare that really isn't an issue. It becomes an issue if you have to maintain into-wind bank when all the wheels are on the ground. The 737 has partially-castoring main wheels so that they can take a goodly amount of sideways motion on touchdown, which allows for the use of inexperienced pilots with an excess of cack-handedness.  Big Jet TV's coverage was from Heathrow, which tends to be visited by airlines' more experienced pilots, but there may well have been more 'entertaining' locations to watch the struggles!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rafletcher on 19 February, 2022, 11:38:51 am
They don't live at the needles either do they

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Well, Totland is about a mile away, so pretty close.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rafletcher on 19 February, 2022, 11:41:25 am
Doubtless TimC will be along when he gets his electricity back but AFAIK Airbuses are always driven one-handed coz they use a side-stick instead of the yoke used by Boeing.

And one hand on the throttles, ready for either go-around or full reverse thrust
This ^.  He would not want to put himself in the position where he would have to let go with one hand in order to add or remove power.

I thought the co-pilot would handle the throttles.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 19 February, 2022, 11:55:51 am
They don't live at the needles either do they

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Well, Totland is about a mile away, so pretty close.
Drop in wind speed on landfall is pretty rapid and you'd think somewhere as exposed as that would be built to stand it...
Otherwise it would have been blown off the map by now.




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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 19 February, 2022, 11:59:08 am
Quarter of a million houses without power, and 4 dead.

Just in case anybody tries to say it was nothing.
Considering the population and density of the areas hit it could have been much much worse.

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Polar Bear on 19 February, 2022, 12:15:22 pm
Surprisingly low levels of damage apparent here in Rugby.  We have part of a neighbour's workshop roof (corrugated plastic!!!) In amongst our raspberry canes but other than high water levels in the rivers there appears little else reported.

I did notice whilst out on my walks and runs over the past two weeks that there were lots of work gangs doing serious levels of arboreal short back and sides.  I wonder if for once our council was well prepared?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Peter on 19 February, 2022, 12:32:52 pm
I think we might consider in this "pissing competition" that the fact that more people weren't hurt or killed could be because they heeded the warnings and therefore the warnings were perfectly justified.  I think it's worth noting that the original red ("over-reaction") warnings were issued for the South-West and South Wales.  Nobody was killed in either of those areas, so the warnings may have been heeded.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Wowbagger on 19 February, 2022, 12:52:46 pm
I had a stroll around the park yesterday as the storm was beginning to die down - about 3pm onward.

Quite a lot of tree debris, as one might expect. A couple of fences down, and two large trees down in the park. There were some carp anglers who had stayed throughout the storm. I have to say there were still some pretty alarming gusts whilst I was wandering around, and I walked on the windward side of trees where there was a choice.

I noticed when I went into the garden this morning that our neighbour's lilac was overhanging below head height, which it wasn't previously, It's a pretty old tree. I just nipped round to see them and the damage is fairly high up on their side, so I shall just cut the offending branches off when I get a round tuit.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rogerzilla on 19 February, 2022, 12:57:52 pm
I wonder where the trampoline ended up?

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/53C1/production/_123314412_073970892.jpg)
They are, apparently, magnetically drawn to railway lines, where they cause all manner of havoc.  Especially electrified routes.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ElyDave on 19 February, 2022, 02:17:10 pm
I thought that would be the fate oof ours at one point.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 19 February, 2022, 02:18:33 pm
https://youtu.be/EFpwgXCwMNQ

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rogerzilla on 19 February, 2022, 02:31:08 pm
It's as if the Tripods from the War of the Worlds had marched down the street.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Basil on 19 February, 2022, 09:59:40 pm
Our power went off just before 8 this morning.  Luckily I was well prepped with the camping stuff, but with the mobile mast being out as well the day did drag a bit.
Especially as the light faded.  We had just agreed to adjourn to the pub for Chinese and alcohol when it came on again. 
We went anyway.   But didn't bother with the Chinese.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 February, 2022, 10:02:25 pm
The lid of my black bin got blown open!  I may need counselling…
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Pingu on 19 February, 2022, 11:11:19 pm
Is there a book of condolence?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 20 February, 2022, 03:11:31 am
Doubtless TimC will be along when he gets his electricity back but AFAIK Airbuses are always driven one-handed coz they use a side-stick instead of the yoke used by Boeing.

And one hand on the throttles, ready for either go-around or full reverse thrust
This ^.  He would not want to put himself in the position where he would have to let go with one hand in order to add or remove power.

I thought the co-pilot would handle the throttles.

Absolutely not. The flying pilot handles all the flying controls. The non-flying pilot selects the services (flaps, gear) and does the radios and navigation. The idea that someone else (and it would have been the Flight Engineer) should handle the ‘throttles’ is a very old British anachronism that was, thank goodness, given up when the VC10 stopped being a civil airliner. It was literally a hangover from maritime practise, when the bridge would ask the engine room for more or less power. I watched it, aghast, on 10 Sqn’s VC10s back in the days when they ruled the Empire routes and you had to be a Squadron Leader to even look at one. Twats.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: SteveC on 20 February, 2022, 10:24:53 am
And now we have Storm Franklin arriving...
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: quixoticgeek on 20 February, 2022, 11:26:00 am


Another day, another storm.

Can we have spring please?


Last weekend I sat on this bench with friends, enjoying the sunshine:

https://twitter.com/hildedejong/status/1495061089561817100

J
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 20 February, 2022, 12:25:58 pm
@TimC: out of curiosity, what did flight engineers do on FOREIGN airlines back in the Olden Days?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: quixoticgeek on 20 February, 2022, 12:27:02 pm
@TimC: out of curiosity, what did flight engineers do on FOREIGN airlines back in the Olden Days?

Foreign things...

J
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 20 February, 2022, 12:31:00 pm
Origami?  Bullfighting?  Applying the word “gravy” to substances that are manifestly Not Gravy?  We need specifics!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 20 February, 2022, 12:39:15 pm
Having watched the engine room of PS waverly in operation how in fuck did that work in something as dynamic as a plane?

Which reminds me to check the maib to see if they've reported on that cock up at Brodick yet

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 20 February, 2022, 12:54:05 pm
@TimC: out of curiosity, what did flight engineers do on FOREIGN airlines back in the Olden Days?

Bowed and scraped to BRITONS' aircraft passing, of course.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 20 February, 2022, 12:58:07 pm
Having watched the engine room of PS waverly in operation how in fuck did that work in something as dynamic as a plane?


Very simple:

Pilot to Flight Engineer, "80% power please"

FE, " Yes, sir"

Pilot, "85% please, Eng"

FE, "85%, sir"

Pilot, "95% Eng. Lickety-split, old chap"

FE, "I have more, sir, if you need it..."

Pilot, "Um, everything you've got. Yesterday, if.... Oh. We appear to be down."

FE, "Finished with engines, sir?"

This image shows the VC10 Flight Engineer's panel, with his thrust levers lower left:

(https://www.airteamimages.com/pics/156/156471_big.jpg)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 20 February, 2022, 12:58:54 pm
@TimC: out of curiosity, what did flight engineers do on FOREIGN airlines back in the Olden Days?

Bowed and scraped to BRITONS' aircraft passing, of course.

Of course :facepalm:  How foolish of me to overlook this vital function!  I presume Brexit has scuppered the practice and now they just point and laugh instead?

It’s getting pretty wind-noisy in darkest E17, and I hope it buggers off before this time tomorrow coz I don’t relish the prospect of riding a laden Perfectly Good Gentleman’s Mountain Bicycle back from the Shoppes both uphill and into the teeth of a Mighty Rushing Wind.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 20 February, 2022, 01:00:55 pm
It's the though, speak, react delay I was thinking about.

P: Throttle down please
FE: yes sir, sir yes
P: we could alnd so much better and safer if there wasn't this 5 second delay

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 20 February, 2022, 01:04:53 pm
It's the though, speak, react delay I was thinking about.

P: Throttle down please
FE: yes sir, sir yes
P: we could alnd so much better and safer if there wasn't this 5 second delay

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Quite.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 20 February, 2022, 01:06:49 pm
Aforementioned Maib interim report seems to indicate engine room delay on going astern to slow the approach.


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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 20 February, 2022, 05:45:03 pm
https://twitter.com/hildedejong/status/1495061089561817100

J
Very good.  :thumbsup: Every storm has a silver slider and all that.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 20 February, 2022, 06:07:00 pm
As our bin collections were postponed from Friday to Monday by Eunice, I've put the recycling out. Probably somewhat optimistically as this new storm Franklin is stronger (on our street, probably due to direction of wind, shape of hill, etc) than Eunice was.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 20 February, 2022, 06:46:00 pm
Small hail with the latest wind in NW London, which was nice.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rogerzilla on 20 February, 2022, 08:34:17 pm
It's bin day tomorrow and the buggers won't stay upright.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andrewc on 21 February, 2022, 08:17:29 am
I note that when Franklin has gone home to bed the next storm name is Gladys,  who will shortly be followed by Herman,  Imani , Jack and Kim. 


Storm Kim….. the rubbish bins of Silly Oak are in for a hard time…
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: PeteB99 on 21 February, 2022, 09:56:11 am
Am I the only one who thinks the next storm should be called Gail.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: bhoot on 21 February, 2022, 10:04:39 am
We did have Abigail a few years back
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 February, 2022, 10:09:57 am
I note that when Franklin has gone home to bed the next storm name is Gladys,  who will shortly be followed by Herman,  Imani , Jack and Kim. 


Storm Kim….. the rubbish bins of Silly Oak are in for a hard time…
It's the fridges I fear for.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rogerzilla on 21 February, 2022, 10:20:01 am
I was at Birmingham University during the 1987 "hurricane".  I walked up to Tesco in the middle of it.  It wasn't all that bad up there; I don't remember any damage at all.  It was worse down south
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 21 February, 2022, 11:11:56 am
Storm Gail, now there's one to get confused about.

Most of these storms aren't really storms but Gales by the time they make landfall (force 8 or 9, douvpe and triple peggers), storms (very good drying days) are 10,hurricane force is 11 up (tumble dryer days)



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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: hatler on 21 February, 2022, 11:26:14 am
Gale = 8
Severe Gale = 9
Storm =10
Violent Storm = 11
Hurricane = 12

And that's where the numbering stops. I've heard two reasons for that.

1   There is no distinguishable difference in sea state beyond a 12.
2   There's no point in worrying about what happens after a 12, because you've probably sunk already.

I think No. 1 is Rear Admiral Beaufort's preferred version.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 21 February, 2022, 11:27:48 am
Yes... Doh.


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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 21 February, 2022, 11:49:49 am
I was at Birmingham University during the 1987 "hurricane".  I walked up to Tesco in the middle of it.  It wasn't all that bad up there; I don't remember any damage at all.  It was worse down south

I was at someone's housewarming party in Aldershot on the evening of that storm, but didn't stay late as I was driving back.  I noticed it was abnormally warm for October.  I drove back over Ewshot Hill and went to sleep thinking nothing of it.  Woke up the next morning to a tree branch on the roof of my parent's house and another across the drive.  The road over Ewshot Hill was blocked by at least 20 fallen trees in 100m.  The 100 acres of High Wood Hanger near Selborne lost more than half its trees.  I didn't get to work until 1pm that day, a client site 40 miles away.  Amidst the carnage I do particularly remember a 100' pine tree in Esher with a 6' girth had fallen neatly between two houses missing both of them, but so close to each that it would have been hard to walk either side. 

Cycling around yesterday, Eunice was not in the same league.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rafletcher on 21 February, 2022, 12:09:49 pm
Indded. I was in Glasgow, so missed the 1987 storm completely, but at "home" in East Sussex, up on the Weald, there was a considerable amount of damage.  I noticed it most when driving between Crowborough and Tunbridge Wells along the "Bunny Run" - more properly known as Bunny Lane.  Numerous uprooted trees on either side, courtesy of shallow roots over the chalk.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jurek on 21 February, 2022, 12:21:49 pm
I've got to agree with CET.
In 1987 I was actually out in the middle of the storm at around 4AM.
We had a catering business and I was on the way to our baker to collect the bread.
It was like a war zone out there.
There was absolutely masses of crap everywhere.
The bread had been baked the night before, but the power had gone off before the loaves had been put through the slicer.
Doorstep sandwiches were on the menu that day.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Lightning Phil on 21 February, 2022, 12:41:43 pm
The storm in 1987 only hit the south of England. Up north nowt were happening.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ian on 21 February, 2022, 12:46:02 pm
I missed the 1987 storm as I lived up north (ok, the Middlelands) – there are still scars of visibly new growth around here though (ironically, the wind bringing trees down increases diversity, unless they put a housing estate on top).

We went for a hike at the weekend, a fair number of trees down, but nothing excessive. Some scrambling and clambering required on a few footpaths, and a majestic old tree down near Penshurst, must be annoying to send 250 years or so growing and then get blown over.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ElyDave on 21 February, 2022, 03:55:09 pm
despite being on the edge of the red zone for Eunice, Franklin seemed worse,  I spent yesterday either in the wilds of the east midlands (it's all wild over there) or driving between the two.  You could really feel it buffeting the car and the spray was pretty bad on the A14 with some large patches of standing water and an impressive hail storm in Leicester just before we left.

Eunice has bought a few trees down round here but not masses, and I rode past a couple of relocated sheds on Saturday.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 February, 2022, 03:57:54 pm
Very nearly had to use the Perfectly Good Gentleman’s Mountain Bicycle's little chainring on the way back from Mr Sainsbury’s House of Toothy Comestibles earlier.  I think the front brake is binding too, which doesn’t help :(
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Ian H on 21 February, 2022, 05:44:03 pm
Riding to and from Salisbury at the weekend was interesting.  On the way there, once we'd climbed on to the Blackdowns, the scene along a tree-lined old turnpike was of devastation.  There were piles of logs from newly fallen trees and debris across the road.  But at least the wind was mostly behind us.  The chalk road, another old turnpike, above the Fovant Emblems, was more technical.  We had to hurdle about half a dozen trees and negotiate mud swamps and floods.

The return on Sunday was all on tarmac, but even more challenging on account of storm Franklin blowing mostly straight against us.  A couple of times we were nearly blown to a halt.  Not that it was any easier when it became a crosswind.  Again the roads were covered with debris and lined with stacked logs, but there was only one fallen tree to negotiate.  136k took us over nine hours.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jurek on 21 February, 2022, 07:55:48 pm
Today I've lost another fence panel.
On the plus side I have gained a broken chimney pot in my garden.
It isn't one of mine, and doesn't appear to be one belonging to a neighbour.
Most strange.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: campagman on 21 February, 2022, 09:01:19 pm
I was out hiking during storm Dudley. I had a 4 ml headwind walk back to the hostel but that's when the rain started. My new waterproof jkt was good but I didn't have the leggings with me. Got very wet and cold . I was on the road, only about 1.5 mls left when a passing bus driver took pity and gave me a lift. Very thankful of a warm Youth Hostel and very hot shower. The wind took more out of me than I thought so didn't walk too far the next day.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 February, 2022, 12:46:33 am
This morning I was freewheeling down a hill that is usually worth 20mph. I must have reached about 1am-h when a very strong gust am but stopped me, which wasn’t inconvenient as I had to stop anyway for some light, and as I pulled up, there was Delthebike being Delthepairofshoesjustforachange.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: giropaul on 22 February, 2022, 10:07:19 am
I was at Birmingham University during the 1987 "hurricane".  I walked up to Tesco in the middle of it.  It wasn't all that bad up there; I don't remember any damage at all.  It was worse down south

I’m about 25 miles north of Birmingham. The 87 hurricane bodily lifted next door’s wooden stable and blew it over our roof.
The horse was left unharmed, looking very confused on the floor of what had been the stable
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: hatler on 22 February, 2022, 10:57:31 am
I was in Epsom in '87, working at Fort Halstead in Sevenoaks (on top of a hill). I slept through it, and then didn't have to go to work for a week. (Though I've no idea how that would have been communicated to me in a world before email and mobile phones.)

Meanwhile, the to-be Mrs hatler (though she had no idea of the existence of a Mr hatler at that point, though our paths were to cross in only a couple of months) was living in a farmhouse in the Tonbridge / Sevenoaks area. They had no power for a week and she wasn't able to get to her parents for a bit longer than that.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rogerzilla on 22 February, 2022, 11:09:08 am
I was at Birmingham University during the 1987 "hurricane".  I walked up to Tesco in the middle of it.  It wasn't all that bad up there; I don't remember any damage at all.  It was worse down south

I’m about 25 miles north of Birmingham. The 87 hurricane bodily lifted next door’s wooden stable and blew it over our roof.
The horse was left unharmed, looking very confused on the floor of what had been the stable
From this, we can conclude that even storms try to avoid Birmingham.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jamm13dodger on 22 February, 2022, 02:58:31 pm
I've done the 36 mile commute to and from Cambridge on Friday last week and Monday this week and didn't think it was as bad as the news made it out. It was definitely a little hairy at points and I did see a few trees down but barring the puncture i got from some storm debris everything else was just a bit more work.

Is this an example of the media over inflating the seriousness of things as usual? Latest news I'm seeing looks like the rainfall is the real story, yet again scenes of flooding and I can confirm I've seen little to no clearing of drainage channels where I live since we had serious flooding last year in my town.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 23 February, 2022, 10:12:35 am
Bit blowy here the day, bridge down to cars only so that's >60mph

Antiquated building has harmonicas for window vents though, currently looking for some way of getting the building condemned so I can go home, any ideas?

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 23 February, 2022, 10:56:42 am
Bit blowy here the day, bridge down to cars only so that's >60mph

Antiquated building has harmonicas for window vents though, currently looking for some way of getting the building condemned so I can go home, any ideas?

Strategically-placed petril and a Zippo?

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: CarlF on 23 February, 2022, 11:45:45 am
Bit blowy here the day, bridge down to cars only so that's >60mph

Antiquated building has harmonicas for window vents though, currently looking for some way of getting the building condemned so I can go home, any ideas?

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Suspicion that Asbestos has been discovered is traditional for antiquated NHS buildings isn't it?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 23 February, 2022, 11:50:22 am
I'd need to accidentally on purpose put a hole in the ceiling or wall

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: CommuteTooFar on 23 February, 2022, 07:51:24 pm
On Tuesday there was a lot bin bags flying around.  So much for the council claiming the bags were waited.  The papers bags were mostly Ok provided you sheltered them behind the glass box. The cans and plastic bottle bag is obviously too lightweight. Very few of them stayed where they were put. I put everything out the night before.  When I got up the paper bags at moved a few feet.  The can and plastic bottles  bag was 20m down the road. I collected my bags and the spilled debris and some that did not belong to me. I then placed them more securely. When the bin lorry arrived I rushed to grab my bags before the empty bags disappeared. My next door neighbour's bag were blown up the road.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 23 February, 2022, 07:57:46 pm
Due to the positioning of my wheelie bins they either:
Go for a walk into the fence or get pinned against the wall and fall over.

I still need to practice hiding it behind the hedge on bin days such that neither Westerly nor Northerly can shove it over.
Easterly will be a problem, might need to use a neeburs hedge
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Feanor on 23 February, 2022, 08:28:22 pm
I lost the cowl from the lum of my outdoor pizza oven.

It took me an hour to find it: I'd almost given up, expecting it to fetch up somewhere in Stonehaven when I unexpectedly came across it.
It had been blown over the roof of the nearby summerhouse, and landed in some rough ground beyond!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 23 February, 2022, 08:33:37 pm
Romain Bardet joak goes here ==>
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 23 February, 2022, 10:01:37 pm
I lost the cowl from the lum of my outdoor pizza oven.

It took me an hour to find it: I'd almost given up, expecting it to fetch up somewhere in Stonehaven when I unexpectedly came across it.
It had been blown over the roof of the nearby summerhouse, and landed in some rough ground beyond!

This sounds a lot like my one and only attempt at Golf.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: campagman on 24 February, 2022, 09:05:59 pm
12 polycarbonate panes were blown out of the greenhouse. A neighbor had collected up 7. We found 4 panes scattered around the site. So are missing 1. I think the problem was gaps where the wind blows in and blows the panes out. Maybe.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ElyDave on 24 February, 2022, 11:47:08 pm
they flex in and the wind gets underneath them, or they bow out on the negative pressure side and get sucked out from under the clips.  When I had polycarbonate, I also ran a silicon bead around the aperture, with improved things.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andrewc on 27 February, 2022, 06:25:52 pm
https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-north-atlantic-storm-bomb-cyclone-mk/



Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: quixoticgeek on 27 February, 2022, 08:27:36 pm


Replaced the plastic that goes round the balcony to protect the plants from the wind. The previous lot lasted 25 years before the storms of last weekend destroyed it. I hope this lot last a similar length of time.

J
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 27 February, 2022, 10:36:37 pm
Ridiculous winds yesterday. Gusting up to 70mph. 

We have a load of grey willow in the garden. They grow well here, but they are a weak tree.

Three of them have half ripped out of the ground. I'm going to try cutting them back to near ground level, see if they regrow ok. If so, I'll keep them low and small, sort of coppicing.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Flite on 28 February, 2022, 08:41:52 am
We have a lot of native and introduced willows on the riverbanks.
As well as removing wind damage, we routinely cut some down to the ground to let new growth thrive. Many look better coppiced, and another advantage is that the younger shoots don't flower and seed everywhere!
A mix of older tall plants for singing posts and seeds for the birds, and lower coppiced plants for cover for small mammals and inverts as well as birds is good.
I'm sure you know that if you want more willows, just stick the cut branches in situ and stand back.

Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 28 February, 2022, 09:41:32 am
I used to have a bat willow plantation on a water meadow. In (I think) 2013 or 14 we had a big storm which knocked over about 20 trees, which were about 17-18 years old by then and pretty lanky. Made a hell of a mess. But the big shame was a really old weeping willow on the boundary which lost its top 40-50ft. It looked really sad afterwards. Surprisingly, all of the damage was above ground. None of the roots shifted.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 February, 2022, 09:43:46 am
We have a lot of native and introduced willows on the riverbanks.
As well as removing wind damage, we routinely cut some down to the ground to let new growth thrive. Many look better coppiced, and another advantage is that the younger shoots don't flower and seed everywhere!
A mix of older tall plants for singing posts and seeds for the birds, and lower coppiced plants for cover for small mammals and inverts as well as birds is good.
I'm sure you know that if you want more willows, just stick the cut branches in situ and stand back.

We were given some willow sticks to plant last year. Got them in a bit late, but even so, it is willow, right?

Only about 50% 'struck' and those produced a few pathetic leaves by the end of summer. Ground is wet, acidic and lacking in nutrients (constant rain, no soil depth will do that).

The soil depth above rock can be measured in inches. Much of the land around here has about a spade depth of soil before you hit rock.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Flite on 28 February, 2022, 08:13:28 pm
Admittedly, the water table is high - it is a riverside!
It is also very rocky, but the willows hang on.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andrewc on 09 March, 2022, 02:24:25 pm
It's not a named storm, but it's a tad breezy in Liverpool at the moment.  Doors rattling & there is something creaking. 
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Peter on 09 March, 2022, 02:31:46 pm
It's Liverpool FC.  Home defeat by Inter Milan is a bit of a shaker.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: spesh on 09 March, 2022, 02:40:12 pm
It's Liverpool FC.  Home defeat by Inter Milan is a bit of a shaker.

Nah, he just doesn't want to admit that he had an extra-hot lentil curry last night. :demon:
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jurek on 09 March, 2022, 05:00:39 pm
I no longer have a fence at the bottom of my garden.
No matter.
It was overdue for replacement.
I've just saved Gary (my tame fencist) the trouble of taking it down.

So I've gone from this: (Viddy the old panels supine behind the bench)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51928904245_133f9b9da5_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Md4g) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Md4g)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)

To this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51928359928_826aeb1a67_z.jpg) (http://[url=https://flic.kr/p/2n7Jqfu) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Jqfu)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)
In the space of two and a half weeks and £780.00
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Giraffe on 09 March, 2022, 05:37:28 pm
Saw a fence today, 3 - panels down - rotten posts, but the posts had been replaced with concrete posts and the wooden posts fastened to them. The concrete had snapped off at the bottom - must have been cheap posts, no sign of degraded concrete but also no rebar.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 09 March, 2022, 06:57:00 pm
I no longer have a fence at the bottom of my garden.
No matter.
It was overdue for replacement.
I've just saved Gary (my tame fencist) the trouble of taking it down.

So I've gone from this: (Viddy the old panels supine behind the bench)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51928904245_133f9b9da5_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Md4g) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Md4g)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)

To this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51928359928_826aeb1a67_z.jpg) (http://[url=https://flic.kr/p/2n7Jqfu) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Jqfu)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)
In the space of two and a half weeks and £780.00
They look nice but holy carp, was that £780 for 2 panels?

You also have a lot of spray cans (paint?) in your shedde...
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jurek on 09 March, 2022, 07:37:52 pm
I no longer have a fence at the bottom of my garden.
No matter.
It was overdue for replacement.
I've just saved Gary (my tame fencist) the trouble of taking it down.

So I've gone from this: (Viddy the old panels supine behind the bench)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51928904245_133f9b9da5_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Md4g) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Md4g)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)

To this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51928359928_826aeb1a67_z.jpg) (http://[url=https://flic.kr/p/2n7Jqfu) (https://flic.kr/p/2n7Jqfu)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurekb/)
In the space of two and a half weeks and £780.00
They look nice but holy carp, was that £780 for 2 panels?

You also have a lot of spray cans (paint?) in your shedde...
No, the entire span is 4850mm (Half of which is behind the shed, half of which you can see)
I've had new fenceposts concreted in.
The 'panels' are actually lengths of Tanalised decking dropped in to the slots.
You are looking at mostly 1 panel. Look closely - between the concrete posts is only one panel.
The cans in the shed contain a butane/propane mix.
There's also the best part of 5l of isopropyl alcohol in there .
Neither of which I'm overkeen on  storing in the house.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ian on 09 March, 2022, 07:59:58 pm
I did glance absently up at the back of the house yesterday and noticed a length of soffity stuff flapping around. Le sigh, after bloody getting the front fixed last week too. It's probably been like that since the same storm, I don't look up very often.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 09 March, 2022, 08:21:30 pm
@jurek, yes that was the 2 panels I was referring to. They do look nice & sturdy though.

I am bored of wind now.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Andrew Br on 09 March, 2022, 10:33:55 pm
If I were you Jurek, I'd move the cans from direct sunlight and put them somewhere in the shade. Keep them in the shed though.
Can't be too careful.

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Post by: Jaded on 09 March, 2022, 11:35:40 pm
The cans in the shed contain a butane/propane mix.

Oh  :-[

I assumed Londonish. So Nitrous Oxide
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jaded on 09 March, 2022, 11:36:52 pm
It's not a named storm, but it's a tad breezy in Liverpool at the moment.  Doors rattling & there is something creaking.

I think you got away lightly.

Our recycling bin fell over.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jurek on 10 March, 2022, 05:49:05 am
If I were you Jurek, I'd move the cans from direct sunlight and put them somewhere in the shade. Keep them in the shed though.
Can't be too careful.
That shed window is north-facing (you can see my weather station sensor under the shed eave, in the top rh corner of the first pic)  so it's in the shade pretty much always.
ETA - if your house is on fire, and the fire brigade catch wind of the fact that you are storing gas cylinders in there they, understandably, won't enter the house to put out the fire.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andyoxon on 02 January, 2024, 03:31:43 pm
Hitting around 45-50mph here in Oxon.  Had a power cut, including mobile phone reception (thoughts momentarily turned to analogue phone). 3 metre long polytunnel cover came off.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: hubner on 02 January, 2024, 03:44:19 pm
It's quite noisy out there, the door is juddering.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: quixoticgeek on 02 January, 2024, 04:32:30 pm


We have a yellow alert here. Am expecting things to get bouncy this evening.

J
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jurek on 02 January, 2024, 05:08:57 pm
Ventusky is currently showing gusts around here at ~56mph.
I've just been outside to put the bins out, and can confirm that the likes of bins have become err.... animated.
I'm not bothering with recovery until such time as the winds have subsided.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: SteveC on 02 January, 2024, 05:43:13 pm
I had an appointment in town this lunchtime. Walking down towards the centre of Yeovil I heard a crash.
One of the curved windows on the top floor of this building https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9415043,-2.6338308,3a,75y,47.43h,128.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1skrrbeF9D_2lkRQTZfUy0Fw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DkrrbeF9D_2lkRQTZfUy0Fw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D266.75082%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9415043,-2.6338308,3a,75y,47.43h,128.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1skrrbeF9D_2lkRQTZfUy0Fw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DkrrbeF9D_2lkRQTZfUy0Fw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D266.75082%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu) had blown out. Fortunately there was no-one walking anywhere too close. Could have been very nasty.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 02 January, 2024, 06:42:56 pm
Seems to have dropped in E17 or at least changed direction, coz the triffids are no longer banging on the Great Hall window.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Ian H on 02 January, 2024, 06:53:33 pm
Reports here of trees blocking most of the roads and railways.  Bickleigh castle has lost a tower (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-67865381).  There was a suspected tornado a little south of here.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 02 January, 2024, 07:29:54 pm
Bickleigh castle has lost a tower (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-67865381).

Bloody cowboy builders!

Joke shamelessly stolen from Angry People In Local Newspapers
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: HTFB on 02 January, 2024, 09:23:16 pm
Our next-door neighbour has lost the top off about five metres of garden wall, bringing down all our bushes. The pile-of-bricks effect is not wholly unlike that photo of Bickleigh Castle.

Quite glad still to be on leave and not commuting today.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 January, 2024, 09:42:47 pm
Calm here now. Earlier, when I looked at the Met Office app, they seemed to be giving an elusive amber alert. At any rate, it looked a darker shade than the normal yellow, but maybe they've just altered their palette.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: quixoticgeek on 02 January, 2024, 10:38:19 pm


The wind is making the monitor wobble. It's on one of those arm things hanging off a set of shelves. But the whole building is wobbling.

J
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: matthew on 02 January, 2024, 10:46:18 pm
Well there goes another fence post. The last two that I hadn't already changed have now failed. Mind you it's circa 15 years since the builders installed them and they have done well for only having 300mm below ground rather than the recommended 500mm.

I'm not sure I am up to changing them though s it might be time to GAMI.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 January, 2024, 11:18:02 pm
My device recorded a gust of 68kph at 4.58pm. That's stronger than anything throughout 2023, and in reality a lot stronger than that as the anemometer isn't high enough to avoid shelter from our house and next door's yew tree.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 03 January, 2024, 05:31:20 am
For York, Met office predicts 10 day cease fire:

Hardly any rain at all
Light winds
Not very cold
Not very warm
Not very sunny

And no more storms.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Duckfoot1606 on 03 January, 2024, 06:06:51 am
Dunno about the wind, but the rain - crikey, flooding like ive never seen before in sunny ( ;D) Loughborough, almost biblical in extent.

River Soar level at Pillings lock currently about 20cm higher than the previous (1998) record

Not going out today, goodness only knows what the state of the roads is.

A
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: SteveC on 03 January, 2024, 07:46:38 am
One of the four roads out of the village, fortunately the least useful one, is blocked by a very substantial fallen tree. A few yards further down the hill and it might have damaged the old railway bridge which carries the road linking Yeovil to the A303.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: robgul on 03 January, 2024, 07:58:35 am
It was pretty windy here in Warwickshire but we were disappointed that a large flexy bough on a tree in the cul-de-sac at the end of our plot that overhangs our garden didn't fall off - the bloody tree is massive but has a TPO so can't be lopped without planning permission.  It's, allegedly, the largest walnut tree in Warwickshire - and blocks the light.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 03 January, 2024, 09:58:52 am
My device recorded a gust of 68kph at 4.58pm. That's stronger than anything throughout 2023, and in reality a lot stronger than that as the anemometer isn't high enough to avoid shelter from our house and next door's yew tree.

Pah that's amateur figures...

Actually it's really quite interesting how much of a difference 400 odd miles makes to what's "windy", (and over the next 250miles northwards)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: TimC on 03 January, 2024, 11:22:26 am
At 17:50 last night Wattisham (EGUW) - just three miles or so from me - was recording max gusts of 53kt, or 98kph, with a steady speed of 39kt (73kph). That's not a record; the maximum windspeed recorded at Wattisham was 62kts (114kph) during Storm Eunice in 2022*. Other unofficial weather stations nearby recorded 80mph (69.5kt, 128kph). Nothing like the numbers achieved on the West coast or in Scotland, but quite blustery.

*The great storm of 1987 produced similar maximum speeds in Suffolk, but the strongest winds were north of here.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 03 January, 2024, 07:19:19 pm
It was pretty windy here in Warwickshire but we were disappointed that a large flexy bough on a tree in the cul-de-sac at the end of our plot that overhangs our garden didn't fall off - the bloody tree is massive but has a TPO so can't be lopped without planning permission.  It's, allegedly, the largest walnut tree in Warwickshire - and blocks the light.

Neighbours applied for planning permission to fell a huge beech tree in their back garden, but also part of protected woodland.  They bought the house a year or two earlier and of course it blocks the light, has done for decades and little sun reaches the back garden.  Local opposition to the application was very loud and successful.  I watched the tree in Storm Henk, it is very tough and was shielded by the rest of the wood. 

They have a front garden which is sunny but they paved it over completely to make car parking - it has no greenery whatsoever, not even a plant pot!.  I am sorry to say it floods just in front of their front door step :demon: Before they moved in it had car parking for one car next to quite a nice front garden.

My ancient chestnuts in France were my favourite bit of the garden. 

(https://i.ibb.co/SXjd2Mh/IMG-2788.jpg)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ian on 03 January, 2024, 08:13:25 pm
The British obsession with removing trees because they need the light always bemused me, since as soon as they get the blessed light, they then keep the blinds semi-permanently closed because it's too bright. I blame the rash of home improvement shows in the 80s and 90s that threatened any homeowner who didn't like light and magnolia walls with doom (when realistically people will buy any property). I like having a shady existence surrounded by trees.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: robgul on 04 January, 2024, 08:11:49 am
It was pretty windy here in Warwickshire but we were disappointed that a large flexy bough on a tree in the cul-de-sac at the end of our plot that overhangs our garden didn't fall off - the bloody tree is massive but has a TPO so can't be lopped without planning permission.  It's, allegedly, the largest walnut tree in Warwickshire - and blocks the light.

Neighbours applied for planning permission to fell a huge beech tree in their back garden, but also part of protected woodland.  They bought the house a year or two earlier and of course it blocks the light, has done for decades and little sun reaches the back garden.  Local opposition to the application was very loud and successful.  I watched the tree in Storm Henk, it is very tough and was shielded by the rest of the wood. 

They have a front garden which is sunny but they paved it over completely to make car parking - it has no greenery whatsoever, not even a plant pot!.  I am sorry to say it floods just in front of their front door step :demon: Before they moved in it had car parking for one car next to quite a nice front garden.

My ancient chestnuts in France were my favourite bit of the garden. 



We're not averse to the tree, which is massive and looks glorious in leaf - it's really just the annoying bough that hangs over the corner of our garden, sticking out from the main trunk at a crazy angle.

Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andyoxon on 21 January, 2024, 10:21:53 pm
A tad windy again...
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Pingu on 21 January, 2024, 10:35:04 pm
Fairly well ventilated up here.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andyoxon on 21 January, 2024, 10:46:48 pm
Potted Xmas tree is reclining on the patio...
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: spesh on 21 January, 2024, 10:50:27 pm
Fairly well ventilated up here.

It's not properly windy unless it's resulted in a garden trampoline being booked in for a speed awareness course.  :P
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Pingu on 21 January, 2024, 10:56:11 pm
Fairly well ventilated up here.

It's not properly windy unless it's resulted in a garden trampoline being booked in for a speed awareness course.  :P

There have been warnings about securing trampolines  :)

I'm more concerned about the fencing on the Eastern Marches.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 January, 2024, 11:00:08 pm
The door of the Great Hall blew open an hour or two ago.  A neat trick considering how tight-fitting the inner front door is.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 22 January, 2024, 12:20:26 am
Wild here, my bin has just been deliberately wedged in the hedge in the hope it won't move far overnight.

Forecast to hit gusts of 133kmh, although that's 2m above ground level and we are sheltered by the lomonds to some extent.

Dundee is cut off.

Sent from my IV2201 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 22 January, 2024, 01:07:06 am
Going to have to time tomorrow’s shopping trip carefully if the BBC's wind speeds are to be believed.  Don’t want a 40 mph headwind combined with uphill and panniers stuffed with toothy comestibles.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 January, 2024, 07:44:09 am
It has been 'business as usual' on the OH. Some areas had gusts up to 120kph, but I don't think we went much above 100kph at home.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 22 January, 2024, 07:54:59 am

Congratulations to today’s winner, Brizlee Wood.
 (https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1749249198472429766?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1749249198472429766%7Ctwgr%5E5e76b50e40b09f0c2b0eeec2c5b4e35f6474fab7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-22382293621901654813.ampproject.net%2F2312191621000%2Fframe.html)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 January, 2024, 07:57:17 am
Blustery here, by Saarfend standards. 56kph recorded yesterday, compared to 68kph on 2nd Jan.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: rogerzilla on 22 January, 2024, 09:43:15 am

Congratulations to today’s winner, Brizlee Wood.
 (https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1749249198472429766?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1749249198472429766%7Ctwgr%5E5e76b50e40b09f0c2b0eeec2c5b4e35f6474fab7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-22382293621901654813.ampproject.net%2F2312191621000%2Fframe.html)
My former in-laws live in Longhoughton.  If it's anything like it was when I lived in Plymouth, everything will be covered in sea salt this morning.  You can be half a mile from the nearest inlet but the spray travels that far.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Basil on 22 January, 2024, 09:53:21 am
Potted Xmas tree is reclining on the patio...

Ah. I poured a couple of gallons of water in the two large pots containing Holly bushes outside the front of our house to act as ballast.
*taps side of nose*
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Flite on 22 January, 2024, 10:35:10 am
Quote
Congratulations to today’s winner, Brizlee Wood.

Presumably at the radar station?
I was at an orienteering event at Simonside and Lordenshaws which is not far away.
Certainly got a bit breezy, but I had an early run and scuttled off home.
Berlingo got a good shaking crossing the fells.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: fimm on 22 January, 2024, 11:20:16 am
Me, to my mother, yesterday evening: I trust you are all secure over there?
Mum: yes, all fine. It is bin day here tomorrow and no one has put their bins out!

At least she has sensible neighbours!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 22 January, 2024, 11:30:17 am
Tay Road Bridge recorded a gust of 108mph, highest they've ever recorded is 110mph in 2001



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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 January, 2024, 11:36:22 am
Gusty but nothing seems to have moved. "Non-amber" days have been more windfully eventful.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 22 January, 2024, 12:10:11 pm
York will be flooded again in the usual parts, but the wind seems to have been fairly harmless.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 22 January, 2024, 02:05:14 pm
Small chainring not required for the ascent of the Great East Face of Larrington Towers Hill just now though 'twas a damn' close-run thing.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jaded on 22 January, 2024, 04:35:19 pm
Just had a phone call from family members, diverted off the M6 southbound at Shap, on account of fallen over lotteries. Lots of crisp packets blowing everywhere too...
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: cycleman on 22 January, 2024, 06:25:38 pm
Crossing Slough railway bridge this afternoon with the empty burley behind the trike a gust of wind overturned it..I was a little surprised 😮  :)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: ian on 22 January, 2024, 08:29:24 pm
Blusterous last night, as befits having an exposed house on the flanks of the North Downs. Unlike the last time, we don't seem to have headed for a large roofing bill, so I'm guessing he did a good job.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Lightning Phil on 22 January, 2024, 08:38:11 pm
Just had a phone call from family members, diverted off the M6 southbound at Shap, on account of fallen over lotteries. Lots of crisp packets blowing everywhere too...

Do you know if any of the fallen lotteries contained winning numbers?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: sg37409 on 22 January, 2024, 10:58:15 pm
My fence came down last night :-(
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jaded on 22 January, 2024, 11:46:07 pm
Just had a phone call from family members, diverted off the M6 southbound at Shap, on account of fallen over lotteries. Lots of crisp packets blowing everywhere too...

Do you know if any of the fallen lotteries contained winning numbers?

Argh!!!

I hate everythink!!!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 23 January, 2024, 01:03:18 pm


Passengers wake up in the ‘wrong’ country as Storm Isha plays havoc with flight plans

 (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/travel/article/storm-isha-flight-diversions-cancelations/index.html)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 23 January, 2024, 05:00:07 pm
Storm causes Ryanair flight to land near actual destination (https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/storm-causes-ryanair-flight-to-land-near-actual-destination-20240122244822).
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 23 January, 2024, 07:35:49 pm
Quote
Another Manchester-Dublin Ryanair flight went back and forth between the UK and Ireland for over three hours, appearing to circle but abandon landing at Dublin, attempt to get on the ground at Belfast (where it made a go-around) and circling over Glasgow before landing in Liverpool – just 31 miles away from the departure airport.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 24 January, 2024, 07:51:18 am
Quote

Storm Jocelyn brings 97mph wind gusts to UK

The UK has recorded winds gusting to 97mph this morning during Storm Jocelyn, significantly higher speeds than what the Met Office had forecast.

The highest wind speed recorded in the UK was in Capel Curig in Wales, at 97mph, while other regions experienced wind gusts of around 70mph, the Met Office said.


Free pardon for Michael Fish please..

Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Jasmine on 24 January, 2024, 08:38:32 am
I live near Capel Curig and confirm that it was seriously bloody windy yesterday. It was the sort of wind where your very solid stone built house is creaking and making weird noises that you know you'll have to investigate later.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andrewc on 24 January, 2024, 09:07:13 am
I’ve just received several messages & pictures from my sister.  A tree was blown down in the back garden last night.  Luckily it didn’t hit anything.    Guess who’s going to have to cut that up & get rid of it…

Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 January, 2024, 07:20:12 pm
I’ve just received several messages & pictures from my sister.  A tree was blown down in the back garden last night.  Luckily it didn’t hit anything.    Guess who’s going to have to cut that up & get rid of it…
AndrewC, this weekend:
(https://external-preview.redd.it/15NXlw2xW350yqQBIcC4mcSOkVcq1NLkz3zb0m6CTdM.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0df0a773f8284669b3cebc45d80d113511cea44d)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 24 January, 2024, 07:28:20 pm
He's a lumberjack and he's OK
Etc.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andrewc on 24 January, 2024, 07:32:01 pm
I’ve just received several messages & pictures from my sister.  A tree was blown down in the back garden last night.  Luckily it didn’t hit anything.    Guess who’s going to have to cut that up & get rid of it…
AndrewC, this weekend:


Git !   


I've been spending a couple of hours looking at video reviews of reciprocating saws.   I'm not cutting the thing up by hand.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 24 January, 2024, 07:43:32 pm
We need a picture now.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: andrewc on 24 January, 2024, 07:58:28 pm
I've been told to leave it alone until the spring.   She's worried about the birds having nowhere to perch.    A recip saw should get the branches off easily & with a long enough blade cut the trunk into portable chunks.  A lot of work though.  The expensive alternative is to get the tree surgeons back (they told her it was rotten last year).


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53485336464_b99775a983.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pujk8w)
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 January, 2024, 08:12:59 pm
Reciprocating sores? Sounds most unhygienic!
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: quixoticgeek on 24 January, 2024, 09:57:21 pm


Last night was distinctly unpleasant. Whole building shaking. I stopped watching stuff on the screen in the living room as it was moving too much due to the wind.

Apparently they measured 95kph winds 20km away at Schiphol...

J
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 January, 2024, 09:10:09 am
I’ve just received several messages & pictures from my sister.  A tree was blown down in the back garden last night.  Luckily it didn’t hit anything.    Guess who’s going to have to cut that up & get rid of it…
AndrewC, this weekend:
(https://external-preview.redd.it/15NXlw2xW350yqQBIcC4mcSOkVcq1NLkz3zb0m6CTdM.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0df0a773f8284669b3cebc45d80d113511cea44d)
His handle is on upside down. wtf?
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 25 January, 2024, 10:04:33 am
I've been told to leave it alone until the spring.   She's worried about the birds having nowhere to perch.    A recip saw should get the branches off easily & with a long enough blade cut the trunk into portable chunks.  A lot of work though.  The expensive alternative is to get the tree surgeons back (they told her it was rotten last year).


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53485336464_b99775a983.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pujk8w)

It looks a bit late for the tree surgeons. I think that is an ex-tree.

But seriously, a decent hand saw would cope with that. 
(https://www.abolox.com/assets/images/snapon/Bahco-331-21-51-KP-Pointed-Bow-Saws-for-Dry-Wood-21-In.png)

And I bet that much ivy would made the tree pretty sick.  I had a huge chestnut in my garden, one of three that I let the ivy get too much of a hold on. When I eventually got rid of the ivy the tree got a new lease of life although it lost a huge branch killed by ivy.  I use a section of the branch as a lamp table now.



Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 26 January, 2024, 05:34:24 pm


Met Office responds as 'mini tornado' sees residents woken by 'wild weather' in North East
Scared residents took to social media after waking to rain, hail and high winds at around 3am on Friday

 (https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/met-office-responds-mini-tornado-28518373?gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AZsHK_n74Nm1zUjqUbix8cwqEHSpKH5z_raL3umGEwiRVEidbObGUSnL7hre5DNfGn4%3D&gaa_ts=65b3ee20&utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=discover&utm_campaign=CCwqGQgwKhAIACoHCAow18_7CjCAwPQCMOqimQIwvvDJAg&utm_content=bullets&gaa_sig=K09KrSaTuRKvSgjFVOM_t3yAZZrjgBowrbtwa92-lZqlbXIthYJ3ORPosxJK5bvWTqW7vz66WdWseyjqgC54SQ%3D%3D)


Here in York Mrs A was woken up by ‘horrendous wind and rain’ at about 3 a.m.  For some reason it didn’t wake me immediately, but I did wake up a bit later when the cat jumped on me.

Luckily there is nothing left in the garden that can blow around now.  There was no weather warning that I am aware of.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Lightning Phil on 26 January, 2024, 10:35:11 pm
Storm causes Ryanair flight to land near actual destination (https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/storm-causes-ryanair-flight-to-land-near-actual-destination-20240122244822).

 ;D
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 January, 2024, 09:24:32 am
It was getting pretty windy here on Sunday (house was shaking in the gusts).

So I decided to go for a walk up on the headland, to see what the minch looked like in a southerly gale.

Well, couldn't see anything, because the spray whipped up on the Minch was like a whiteout.

Lost one of my favourite buffs.

The wind was entertaining though. Resorted to taking my glasses off and putting them in a pocket, since I couldn't hold them on and cling to rocks/ground at the same time.

Thought it was gusting 60mph, might have been 70mph. Seriously difficult to walk in, had to lean at a ridiculous angle just to avoid falling over.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 31 January, 2024, 08:45:37 am
Repeat, with rain.

15mm of rain overnight, winds gusting 60-70mph. Still lashing rain and wind. House shuddering in the gusts.
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Post by: Regulator on 31 January, 2024, 03:05:01 pm
I've been told to leave it alone until the spring.   She's worried about the birds having nowhere to perch.    A recip saw should get the branches off easily & with a long enough blade cut the trunk into portable chunks.  A lot of work though.  The expensive alternative is to get the tree surgeons back (they told her it was rotten last year).


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53485336464_b99775a983.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pujk8w)


She's wrong.  Now is the time to remove it - before birds start nesting in it in early Spring.

Is it in a conservation area?  If so, you'll need permission from the council - but you could do a five day notice on the grounds that it is down.
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Post by: andrewc on 31 January, 2024, 09:06:12 pm
It’s in their back garden, it’s down & when I checked the trunk it was like a sponge in the centre. The council will have no interest. 
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 February, 2024, 08:50:36 am
The winds have knocked down two grey willows. I'll cut them back to a stump; they'll regrow from that with lots of shoots. The roots aren't entirely ripped out of the ground.

Going to be a pain doing one of them, it has half-fallen on another tree. Ladder and pruning saw job, taking it steady.
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Post by: Morat on 02 February, 2024, 09:12:37 am
It’s in their back garden, it’s down & when I checked the trunk it was like a sponge in the centre. The council will have no interest.

That's likely to be easier to prove now, than sometime in the future. I'd photo/document it at least.
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Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 02 February, 2024, 09:36:07 am
YACF stands witness!
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Post by: andrewc on 02 February, 2024, 01:31:06 pm
An ordinary cherry tree in the back garden of a 1960’s detached in Huyton.  Definitely not a conservation area…..
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Post by: matthew on 02 February, 2024, 01:50:17 pm
An ordinary cherry tree in the back garden of a 1960’s detached in Huyton.  Definitely not a conservation area…..

In this context conservation area is a planning term about maintaining the nature of the built environment, not an ecological one. Check here https://localplanmaps.knowsley.gov.uk/ (https://localplanmaps.knowsley.gov.uk/) for the local authority map of the conservation areas. The issue is that a lot of conservation areas have blanket tree preservation orders.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 February, 2024, 03:07:11 pm
Bugger!

We have roof leaks.

The symptoms are:

Leaking from above window frame in two rooms.
Water running down light in hallway, just behind front door.


Chances are, this is the weatherboarding on the gable, which runs nearly the length of the house.
I have some sealant, but it will be a bugger to apply. The roof pitch is too steep to walk on, and I can't even use roofing ladders to access this bit.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: FifeingEejit on 02 February, 2024, 07:40:21 pm
Was staying near Brae, Shetland the last few days.
Force 10

That is all.
Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 05 February, 2024, 09:16:02 am
Not a 10 in York but the met office forecast seems understated,  5 gusting 7. The forest of large trees across the road have been waving around like wheat in a field.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 05 February, 2024, 09:35:37 am
that is one reference that was not available in Shetland, the only surviving trees live in shelter

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Title: Re: The wind...
Post by: Andy W on 06 February, 2024, 04:49:59 am
Blowing a gale here in darkest North Herts. The wind OUTSIDE woke me up. First world problem but am fretting whether to cycle outside or Wattbike .