Author Topic: Arithmetic that makes you cringe  (Read 78349 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #300 on: 17 August, 2021, 08:54:47 am »
Something very like that but possibly simpler. Would a Usanian say it at 122F or 106? I'm thinking the latter.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #301 on: 07 October, 2021, 10:48:32 am »
I have just completed the IT Local Security Officer course, scoring 38 out of a possible 38 in the final test.

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Course Grade: 98.68%

 ???
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #302 on: 07 October, 2021, 10:55:58 am »
I have just completed the IT Local Security Officer course, scoring 38 out of a possible 38 in the final test.

My stickyfoot says:
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Course Grade: 98.68%

 ???
Looks like you really scored 37.5, which can be rounded to 38 but also left unrounded as 98.68%.

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #303 on: 07 October, 2021, 11:53:44 am »
You're supposed to hack in and fix the results yourself.

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #304 on: 03 November, 2021, 07:19:54 pm »
I'm just looking at a drawing of a sheet piling layout. It has dimensions on it, for example 6670.052.  The units are millimetres.  This means what ever it is is being measured to the nearest 0.001 mm . That's 1 micron. Human hair is 70 microns. Joe average bacteria are 1-2 microns diameter.  Sheet piles (GBFO lumps of steel) are not manufactured to such tolerances.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #305 on: 03 November, 2021, 07:31:25 pm »
Is it (badly) converted from some other set of units by an idiot?
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #306 on: 03 November, 2021, 07:58:00 pm »
Nah, it’s a CAD drawing and you can be super accurate….  even if the building won’t be closer than half a brick.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #307 on: 03 November, 2021, 08:04:06 pm »
Oh yeah, I've had students giving me diagrams of parts to be manufactured where clearance hole positions are specified to 0.001mm.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #308 on: 03 November, 2021, 08:04:40 pm »
And lecturers for that matter.
Miles cycled 2014 = 3551.5 (Target 7300 :()
Miles cycled 2013 = 6141.4
Miles cycled 2012 = 4038.1

Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #309 on: 03 November, 2021, 08:12:47 pm »
I remember given a helmsman on an RFA tug a heading to half a degree. He laughed. I didn't do that again.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #310 on: 03 November, 2021, 08:37:08 pm »
Nah, it’s a CAD drawing and you can be super accurate….  even if the building won’t be closer than half a brick.

CAD in the wrong hands gives a laughable impression of what is buildable, leading to unrealistic expectations.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #311 on: 03 November, 2021, 08:45:06 pm »
That is the other joy I get. Designs that would require spanners/allen keys to phase through solid matter to do fixings up.
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Miles cycled 2013 = 6141.4
Miles cycled 2012 = 4038.1

Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #312 on: 04 November, 2021, 12:03:44 pm »
Oooof. On two levels.

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"We have 8,5000 people dying each year of fuel poverty - that's a hundred people a day," he said.

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #313 on: 04 November, 2021, 07:46:39 pm »
You missed the "during winter" off the end of the quote. So if that zero is the obvious typo, assuming people only die of fuel poverty from December to February, it sort of adds up correctly.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #314 on: 04 November, 2021, 07:56:54 pm »
I have just completed the IT Local Security Officer course, scoring 38 out of a possible 38 in the final test.

My stickyfoot says:
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Course Grade: 98.68%

 ???

Work asked us to "help out" some numeracy charity by completing their test.

"Congratulations, you scored 100%. Click here, here and here to see how you could improve your score"
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #315 on: 04 November, 2021, 08:24:59 pm »
You missed the "during winter" off the end of the quote. So if that zero is the obvious typo, assuming people only die of fuel poverty from December to February, it sort of adds up correctly.
Fair point. Mis-quoting is something I despise. And if that figure is 8,500 and not 85,000 then it all stacks up.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #316 on: 05 November, 2021, 03:45:44 pm »
https://twitter.com/GiveMeSpace3/status/1456622706615586819
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Study finds that one in 53 people in the UK has symptomatic virus - down from one in 56 a week before.

Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #317 on: 05 November, 2021, 11:39:21 pm »
Nah, it’s a CAD drawing and you can be super accurate….  even if the building won’t be closer than half a brick.

CAD in the wrong hands gives a laughable impression of what is buildable, leading to unrealistic expectations.

From time to time I help out with "constructability reviews" of publicly funded projects (schools, mostly).  The usual focus is "before you release these documents for bidders, can a group of architects and engineers help the design team identify things that won't fit, where drawings show different things, etc., so they can be corrected?"  However, when I see dimensions in x/256", I usually comment that they need to reset the precision or face guffaws from the builders.

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #318 on: 06 November, 2021, 08:46:47 am »
https://twitter.com/GiveMeSpace3/status/1456622706615586819
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Study finds that one in 53 people in the UK has symptomatic virus - down from one in 56 a week before.
I do wish that all these figures were given as percentages - so much simpler.
Then there's the rounding: no, 9,790 is not nearly 10,000. To be generous, I'll give you almost 9,800.

BTW, a scientific site mentioned atmospheric CO2 as 4% - it's actually about 415ppm.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #319 on: 09 November, 2021, 09:24:06 am »
I think we'd all be dead if the atmosphere was 4% carbon dioxide (but we shouldn't give industry a target). I presume they meant 0.04%.

I do prefer 1-in-50 people approach rather than relative numbers like percentages. It's a big annoyance in medical papers and reporting when they write that such-and-such is 20% better, tell me how many people the drug will fix. It's become a sleight of hand to fudge minimal effects.

Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #320 on: 09 November, 2021, 03:38:03 pm »
I think we'd all be dead if the atmosphere was 4% carbon dioxide (but we shouldn't give industry a target). I presume they meant 0.04%.

I do prefer 1-in-50 people approach rather than relative numbers like percentages. It's a big annoyance in medical papers and reporting when they write that such-and-such is 20% better, tell me how many people the drug will fix. It's become a sleight of hand to fudge minimal effects.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #321 on: 12 November, 2021, 04:52:48 pm »
Woops.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59119103

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An electric scooter that can go 100 kmph (62 mph)? Meet the sleek new machine that's designed to leave the clunky scooters you see buzzing around suburban High Streets, in the dust.

Looks like the sub didn't get to this one in time.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #322 on: 13 November, 2021, 09:08:30 am »
That'll beat Elon to Mars!
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #323 on: 13 November, 2021, 12:58:33 pm »
The abbreviations are a bit clunky perhaps but I don't see anything wrong with the arithmetic. Not that that guarantees there's nothing wrong.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #324 on: 13 November, 2021, 01:01:29 pm »
kmph isn't a unit.
The "?" after the "(62mph)?" indicates the poor journo doesn't know/couldn't work out what 100kph is in mph and would have put that there as an appeal to the sub-editor to check and correct if necessary.
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