ACME Miscellany

[psyclist]

I asked tonight and Tom says there is only 1 large jersey left :-(

Thanks for asking. I'll pass the news on, but at least we should have a new order going in soon 

[The Family Cyclist]

www.grapeandgraintrail.co.uk

I'll leave that there!

[Oscar's dad]

www.grapeandgraintrail.co.uk

I'll leave that there!

 

[Tomsk]

I asked tonight and Tom says there is only 1 large jersey left :-(

Thanks for asking. I'll pass the news on, but at least we should have a new order going in soon 

Soupy is onto it - he'll be emailing all ACME-ists and other who have expressed an interest soon, collecting orders and money. I've warned him there will be a lot of chasing and sorting stuff out, being the middle-man between Blackmore Apparel and a herd of cats peloton of experienced randonneurs 

[jiberjaber]

Perhaps a Google sheets order form might work?

[Oscar's dad]

Will Soupy be chasing me about my ACME gilet?

[tippers_kiwi]

Oh yeah...an Irish chap chased me up on Facebook and is after one of the Merino jerseys so if anyone happens to want one let me know....

[jiberjaber]

I asked tonight and Tom says there is only 1 large jersey left :-(

Thanks for asking. I'll pass the news on, but at least we should have a new order going in soon 

Soupy is onto it - he'll be emailing all ACME-ists and other who have expressed an interest soon, collecting orders and money. I've warned him there will be a lot of chasing and sorting stuff out, being the middle-man between Blackmore Apparel and a herd of cats peloton of experienced randonneurs 

Loose end this afternoon, sample form here:

https://goo.gl/forms/GXO4x6GOfq6iSLDj2

ETA: This is a test, if we agree that it helps, I'll try and arrange for it to be on the ACME google account and also we would need to put up some better pictures etc

[Oscar's dad]

Good work!

[psyclist]

Nice work Jason. One improvement suggestion ... size details should be per item, as people will need to order different sizes for different garments, if more than one is ordered on one form.

[jiberjaber]

Nice work Jason. One improvement suggestion ... size details should be per item, as people will need to order different sizes for different garments, if more than one is ordered on one form.

You can only show interest in one item per form at the moment, users can edit it or post a new one for each item, it feeds a spreadsheet in the background.  I could look at making it allow more than one thing per form but thats beyond what comes as out-of-the-box functionality on the simple form I've used I think... plus one line per item per user on the spreadsheet might be easier to manage

At a glance responses:


Spreadsheet:

[psyclist]

Keep it simple, I say. I didn't realise it was just one item per form, but that being the case, it'll work fine.

[jiberjaber]

Keep it simple, I say. I didn't realise it was just one item per form, but that being the case, it'll work fine.

I've changed the text to be a bit clearer about that

I had a quick look but most of the scripts that would add the multiple items etc on the form all require the user to keep pressing the submit button after each selection, so not very intuitive!  Probably better in its current simple form I think.

[Dan Deakins]

I am sending out the email regarding kit orders this afternoon once I have everyone's email address from Tomsk.

Email will contain designs and the list of apparel with sizes, prices etc etc. We are still liaising with Nick Hobbs on the final design of the sleeves of the short sleeve jersey so expect a further email once we have the final design.

Once everything is finalised I can take orders.

Ta chaps.

[psyclist]

ECE time allowed

Following a discussion with Carlos & Bernster yesterday regarding the time allowed for an ECE, and whether the calendar ride is included in the calculation of time at the minimum speed, I found the following on aukweb, which is quite categoric:

The overall minimum speed for the ECE Perm + Calendar event will be 14.3km/hr irrespective of the minimum speed of the calendar event itself.

To determine the distance, you need to take the points distance of the calendar event (eg 100km for an over-distance 115km event) and add the minimum distance of the ECE (so a mandatory route 105km ECE would count as 105km). So with these examples, the time allowed would be 205k at 14.3km/h, which is just over 14 hours.

For those ECE'ing the winter series event, this will be a useful reminder.

[jiberjaber]

ECE time allowed

Following a discussion with Carlos & Bernster yesterday regarding the time allowed for an ECE, and whether the calendar ride is included in the calculation of time at the minimum speed, I found the following on aukweb, which is quite categoric:

The overall minimum speed for the ECE Perm + Calendar event will be 14.3km/hr irrespective of the minimum speed of the calendar event itself.

To determine the distance, you need to take the points distance of the calendar event (eg 100km for an over-distance 115km event) and add the minimum distance of the ECE (so a mandatory route 105km ECE would count as 105km). So with these examples, the time allowed would be 205k at 14.3km/h, which is just over 14 hours.

For those ECE'ing the winter series event, this will be a useful reminder.

Hmmm - I thought it was the total distance of both added together, not the calendar points distance + total ECE ?    Was there a particular thing that added the clarification regarding calendar event that you found that I missed?

[psyclist]

Hmmm - I thought it was the total distance of both added together, not the calendar points distance + total ECE ?    Was there a particular thing that added the clarification regarding calendar event that you found that I missed?

Yes, as per http://www.aukweb.net/diy/ece/ecefaq/

7. What if the calendar event and/ or the ECE are overdistance?
The calendar event will only be allowed the nominal distance eg 100 200 etc for reasons stated above. However if a calendar event is a lot longer than this you will not get extra time allowance for the ECE. ie a 115km calendar event + 100km ECE is not given the time allowance based on 215km but only that based on 200km. This means it's important to ensure you can get round both parts of the ECE within time.
An overdistance ECE that is the minimum distance between controls is however allowed an extra time allowance for the ECE leg; thus if it's 60km minimum distance between the ECE start and a 100km calendar event you will be allowed a time allowance based on 220km.

[jiberjaber]

Hmmm - I thought it was the total distance of both added together, not the calendar points distance + total ECE ?    Was there a particular thing that added the clarification regarding calendar event that you found that I missed?

Yes, as per http://www.aukweb.net/diy/ece/ecefaq/

7. What if the calendar event and/ or the ECE are overdistance?
The calendar event will only be allowed the nominal distance eg 100 200 etc for reasons stated above. However if a calendar event is a lot longer than this you will not get extra time allowance for the ECE. ie a 115km calendar event + 100km ECE is not given the time allowance based on 215km but only that based on 200km. This means it's important to ensure you can get round both parts of the ECE within time.
An overdistance ECE that is the minimum distance between controls is however allowed an extra time allowance for the ECE leg; thus if it's 60km minimum distance between the ECE start and a 100km calendar event you will be allowed a time allowance based on 220km.

 

[Carlosfandango]

Thanks Psyclist, that's good news. I was over thinking it slightly

[tippers_kiwi]

  Indeed, that is a good reminder. I seem to remember looking into it last year after I nearly timed out on the first winter series event having spent far too long socialising after the event. I generally just try to stick to a BRM minimum speed level knowing that will get me through in good time but a pub finish can be a distraction to that strategy.

[psyclist]

I tend to use Huggy's rule of thumb, which is 7 hours for each 100km. Then I use 4 minutes per km for the remainder. That's useful for on-the-fly calculations, like when sat drinking that x'th pint!

[huggy]

I have just submitted my ECE for the Essex 3R's Helpers ride planned to start at stupid O'Clock¹ on the 28th.  With 43km to ride before the start of the 'calendar' route when meeting psyclist outside (on account of them not being open at Audax O'Clock) Witham Wetherspoons at 6am, followed by the 107.8km 3R's route, finished off with a 57.7km round trip to the Blue Egg. Those mathematically astute among you will notice that my ECE is 100.7km therefore I will have 14 hours and 2 minutes to complete the 208.5km, so almost BRM pace with the over distance in the calendar event distance.  This gives me two thoughts:
  that my ECE is pretty much minimum distance with a little distance buffer to keep the validation happy
  that I have no ECE over distance to create a time buffer if in (hopefully unlikely) trouble

I'm sure it will be fun anyway 

[1] stupid O'Clock is defined by me as earlier than Audax O'Clock

[Carlosfandango]

I have just submitted my ECE for the Essex 3R's Helpers ride planned to start at stupid O'Clock¹ on the 28th.  With 43km to ride before the start of the 'calendar' route when meeting psyclist outside (on account of them not being open at Audax O'Clock) Witham Wetherspoons at 6am, followed by the 107.8km 3R's route, finished off with a 57.7km round trip to the Blue Egg. Those mathematically astute among you will notice that my ECE is 100.7km therefore I will have 14 hours and 2 minutes to complete the 208.5km, so almost BRM pace with the over distance in the calendar event distance.  This gives me two thoughts:
  that my ECE is pretty much minimum distance with a little distance buffer to keep the validation happy
  that I have no ECE over distance to create a time buffer if in (hopefully unlikely) trouble

I'm sure it will be fun anyway 

[1] stupid O'Clock is defined by me as earlier than Audax O'Clock

Sounds good. Are you joining psyclist in his post ride, warm down, volleyball match?

[huggy]

Sounds good. Are you joining psyclist in his post ride, warm down, volleyball match?

errrr, no.

[tippers_kiwi]

I suspect I will be on for a VERY Stupid O'clock start as I will once again be aiming to do the full 100 before the event so that I can enjoy the socialising afterwards and I might even look for some train assistance back home.....if that is in anyway possible with @GA