- The controller will check that your bike is in good condition and that all required (front & rear lighting) and optional (mudguards, bags, pump ...) accessories are securely fixed to the bike
They liked my fixie last couple of times - not doing that this time.
They liked my fixie last couple of times - not doing that this time.
They liked my fixie last couple of times - not doing that this time.
It would be interesting to know how many unbroken bikes turn up.
They liked my fixie last couple of times - not doing that this time.
It would be interesting to know how many unbroken bikes turn up.
Broken bikes is a real problem for some flying over, that's if their bike turns up in the first place....
They liked my fixie last couple of times - not doing that this time.
It would be interesting to know how many unbroken bikes turn up.
Broken bikes is a real problem for some flying over, that's if their bike turns up in the first place....
Last time, the Things' tandem wasn't broken, but it was in Ireland somewhere. They managed to get through the bike check without it (French pragmatism is wonderful). After phone calls and an anxious wait it turned up in a small van. There was just enough time to assemble it and get some sleep.
Drew Buck told me (2011 I think) that a scrutineer wanted to fail his bike because the brakes were ineffective (sounds perfectly reasonable to me) whereupon a fellow scrutineer intervened and explained it was Drew Buck and he couldn't possibly be prevented from riding, whatever the state of his;)machineonions.
Usually they ask you to switch your light on to show that it actually works and then bounce the bike to make sure that they stay attached. I reckon most riders will have led lights with a blink mode .Thanks madcow, good to know & sounds reasonable.
Never had a problem on two previous editions.
If you use them in blinky mode on the road it’s picked up by the motorbike marshalls or by other riders.
Here's my question, not doing pbp but what's to stop you riding 50m down the road after l'inspection, sticking your TT bars on, and removing them a km before the arrivée?
* although a second light is not allowed on PBP
* although a second light is not allowed on PBP
Citation needed. I though back up lights were positively encouraged??
* although a second light is not allowed on PBP
Citation needed. I though back up lights were positively encouraged??
I thought this was covered elsewhere already? It's international regulations, IIRC — a front white light, but only one; a rear red light, but only one; and an audible warning device, but only one.
However, once on the parcours then different rules may apply ...
* although a second light is not allowed on PBP
Citation needed. I though back up lights were positively encouraged??
I thought this was covered elsewhere already? It's international regulations, IIRC — a front white light, but only one; a rear red light, but only one; and an audible warning device, but only one.
However, once on the parcours then different rules may apply ...
If we take it that you can only have one light front and rear: “a light” then you can have only one efficient brake! “An efficient brake”. Although I suppose you could argue your other one is rubbish...
2011 bike check - they didn't like my brakes (which were fine), my lights (which were fine), and something else, so had stressful time getting fine things fixed (so they weren't as fine) and left a couple of hours later, stressed.
I think that means a minimum of one efficient brake. You must have an efficient brake: if you have two efficient brakes or an efficient brake and an inefficient brake, that also meets the Convention. Similarly for lights and reflectors.If we take it that you can only have one light front and rear: “a light” then you can have only one efficient brake! “An efficient brake”. Although I suppose you could argue your other one is rubbish...
The Vienna Convention On Road Traffic 1968 in full explicitly states "an efficient brake" for bicycles, and "two efficient brakes" for mopeds — I think they really did mean just the one for bicycles. [Here (https://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/conventn/crt1968e.pdf): Chapter V, pg. 37-38]
I doubt the PBP scrutineers would agree.
But for the porpoises of this discussion, the fine details of International Conventions is irrelevant.True, but that should be based on French traffic law.
All that we care about is the requirements of this specific Event Organiser, and how that is interpreted by their monkeys on the day.
What's actually important is the French have updated their cycle requirements recently and that included the single beam restriction. It was covered in another post on here.
I've just returned to some very nice cateye AAA jobbies .....
This is yacf. That sort of secondary meaning is almost mandatory.:)
It's just an excuse to provide security at the venue.
You cant leave the compound with a bike unless your documents match the temp frame number
And everyone is wonderful.
Blimey you lot must be bored quoting Vienna convention. I really wouldn't worry about the bike check. They will check your lights work and do the drop test. Plus a check extension bars if you've fitted them. It's all over in a minute or two.
His answer is a lot more useful than worrying about the bike check.
2011 bike check - they didn't like my brakes (which were fine), my lights (which were fine), and something else, so had stressful time getting fine things fixed (so they weren't as fine) and left a couple of hours later, stressed.
Five PBP bike checks so far with not even a hint of worry and I don't expect that to change this time. With 6000+ riders, almost anything is possible but the chances of that 'solitary instance' heading in my direction is too small for me to even consider bothering with.
The Venice convention is more useful to worry about, particularly if you're from a non convention country or a Geneva protocol country like Ireland...
Had to point out to an Aussie rider on the tcr Facebook group that road signage in Europe and Asia is effectively standardised because of it after they mistook an end of cycle route sign for a prohibition sign.
I've a bike to rebuild and a wiring issue to resolve and test in the next month.
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No, the vienna convention altered and ratified the Geneva protocol on road signage.The Venice convention is more useful to worry about, particularly if you're from a non convention country or a Geneva protocol country like Ireland...
Had to point out to an Aussie rider on the tcr Facebook group that road signage in Europe and Asia is effectively standardised because of it after they mistook an end of cycle route sign for a prohibition sign.
I've a bike to rebuild and a wiring issue to resolve and test in the next month.
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Vienna convention rather than Venice?
J
No, the vienna convention altered and ratified the Geneva protocol on road signage.The Venice convention is more useful to worry about, particularly if you're from a non convention country or a Geneva protocol country like Ireland...
Had to point out to an Aussie rider on the tcr Facebook group that road signage in Europe and Asia is effectively standardised because of it after they mistook an end of cycle route sign for a prohibition sign.
I've a bike to rebuild and a wiring issue to resolve and test in the next month.
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Vienna convention rather than Venice?
J
That is where the red bordered warning triangles, red bordered prohibition circles, blue instruction circles and blue rectangular instructional signs come from.
The Irish use diamonds instead of triangles because that's what the Geneva protocol proposed.
The vienna convention is about basic road traffic law standardisation such as basic lighting requirements for vehicles and how to identify vehicles in international traffic (stickers with country codes or blue borders on registration plates with country flag and code)
The Venice convention is about basic road traffic law standardisation ...
On the axle always used to be the standard front light mounting point for French cyclotourists. Don't know if that's changed.
I'm looking to arrive in Rambouillet later than initially planned now and notice I can't amend the bike check time on the PBP site. Anyone know best person to contact from PBP for this type of thing? Also, does anyone know what time the bike check goes on until on Sunday? Cheers.If it is like general French administration there will be a form that has to be completed and then stamped by a supervisor who passes it to another department who will allocate the resources required to change the appointment. This will then happen and be checked by the scheduling department that will ratify the change. It will then be passed to the communication department that will have to update the schedule documentation that will have to be distributed to all the bike checkers and security staff. The printers needs six weeks notice to change the documentation.
I'm looking to arrive in Rambouillet later than initially planned now and notice I can't amend the bike check time on the PBP site. Anyone know best person to contact from PBP for this type of thing? Also, does anyone know what time the bike check goes on until on Sunday? Cheers.
Ok interesting, might try and blag it. Yep, I'm in the 84-hour group.
Ok interesting, might try and blag it. Yep, I'm in the 84-hour group.https://track.rtrt.me/e/PBP-2019#/tracker/RUMVPFSY
On the axle always used to be the standard front light mounting point for French cyclotourists. Don't know if that's changed.
From the PBP website (
https://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?lang=en&cat=preparation&page=conseils)
Your lighting system :
You should be equipped with 2 red tail lights, one firmly attached to the bike and the other one as a backup light. Some roads are uneven, what often causes the loss of the lights.
The front light is your own choice. Some riders have only one, others have 2 or more. I use 2 front lights powered by a dynamo. The main advantage is not having to worry about carrying extra batteries or recharging a battery. Dynamo overcomes potential problems of different electrical standards in France.
To attach a light on your helmet will help you in reading map, cue sheet or road signage, in repairing a puncture, etc.
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You willhave plenty of opportunities to pick up spare lights - normally after the first cobbled section
two lights (one red, one white and mounted on the proper side)
I don't intend having all my bags fitted for the check
The right side is the left side. HTH.
The right side is the left side. HTH.
I don't intend having all my bags fitted for the check
So the bike checker doesn't get to attempt to bounce your bags off ? That seems slightly unsporting :)
What's the story with the frame badge? Does it need to be on show? I don't really have the space for it...
What's the story with the frame badge? Does it need to be on show? I don't really have the space for it...
There's always a place for it - top of the rear triangle is a sensible alternative to in the main triangle (assuming you're using a diamond-frame machine!).
Edit to add - I haven't seen the thing yet - but it must be in a vertical plane, so not on top of saddlebags etc. otherwise the chip may not read well.
It was a fair job to wash the sticky stuff off.
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date=1566056205It was a fair job to wash the sticky stuff off.
There were Japanese guys outside the hotel cleaning their bikes off with a toothbrush before they went inside.
I just rode around in the rain a bit more...It was a fair job to wash the sticky stuff off.
There were Japanese guys outside the hotel cleaning their bikes off with a toothbrush before they went inside.
I've got the frame badge (with the chip on) mounted OK, but what's the deal with the smaller one? Does that need to go on also or is one enough? If it is obligatoire, is there a specific place for it?
This seems to be a Far East thing. On HBKH last year - which was completely dry for some of us - one young chap got the toothbrush out after we rode through a big sticky mud puddle across the road. I totally admired his diligence!It was a fair job to wash the sticky stuff off.
There were Japanese guys outside the hotel cleaning their bikes off with a toothbrush before they went inside.