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Off Topic => The Pub => Food & Drink => Topic started by: tonycollinet on 18 May, 2009, 01:15:56 pm

Title: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: tonycollinet on 18 May, 2009, 01:15:56 pm
We have a breadmaker. It is currently used in the garage, becasue Mrs TC cannot stand the smell it makes when baking.

She loves the smell you normally get from a bread bakers. But the machine smells different. I like the smell, but can understand why she does not - it has a sort of "yeasty" overtone to it.

Is this just a consequence of using dried yeast? Or is it likely to be somthing else in the recipie (most of the recipies in the machine book use milk powder for example - rather than real milk)

It would be good if I could fix this, and move the machine back into the house.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Woofage on 18 May, 2009, 02:58:36 pm
FWIW, I have never used milk powder in our bread maker, it just seems wrong. I just add a couple of extra spoonfuls of flour to compensate. Try it without.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Adrian on 18 May, 2009, 03:10:17 pm
In my distant youth, one summer I worked at The Tip Top Bakery in St Mary Cray. It was many years before I could stomach the smell of bread.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Pancho on 18 May, 2009, 03:40:48 pm
In my distant youth, one summer I worked at The Tip Top Bakery in St Mary Cray. It was many years before I could stomach the smell of bread.

In my distant youth, I spent one hot summer working in an abbatoir.

Oddly, never put me off meat (even at lunch breaks) and it did pay for my first ever brand new bike.

Re: bread. Try it on one of the longer settings (more time for the pre-rise thingy) and try real milk instead of powdered.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Kathy on 18 May, 2009, 03:47:48 pm
I wonder if it's the fermentation smell that you find unpleasant, rather than the baking. The fermentation will smell a bit more "yeasty" with a hint of alcohol, and you don't usually encounter it in a bakery.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: tonycollinet on 19 May, 2009, 08:50:21 pm
Could well be the fermentation. How does a bakers avoid this? Buy in the dough?

Anyway, yesterdays loaf was made with milk (and eggs, and honey - yum), and smelt pretty much the same. So the machine stays in the garage.
 :(

Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: sas on 20 May, 2009, 12:14:42 am
I think proper bakers leave the bread to rise overnight/early morning so anyone wandering in only smells the baked bread.

Have you tried just a plain loaf (flour, salt, yeast, water)? Or even make it by hand?
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: tonycollinet on 20 May, 2009, 07:28:12 am
Plain loaf - yes.

By Hand??? Are you Mad???
 ;D

Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Regulator on 20 May, 2009, 08:05:31 am
I love making bread by hand.   :thumbsup:

Spelt bread is the quickest and easiest.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: numbnuts on 20 May, 2009, 09:07:19 am
I don't use milk powder I use half and half of milk and water
 
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Chris N on 20 May, 2009, 09:15:40 am
Anyway, yesterdays loaf was made with milk (and eggs, and honey - yum),

That's not bread, that's breakfast.  Why put milk and eggs in bread?
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: iakobski on 20 May, 2009, 09:53:18 am
Anyway, yesterdays loaf was made with milk (and eggs, and honey - yum),

That's not bread, that's breakfast.  Why put milk and eggs in bread?

Brioche?

VĂ¡nočka?

Pandoro?

Yum.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Jaded on 20 May, 2009, 10:05:48 am

That's not bread, that's breakfast.  Why put milk and eggs in bread?

Portuguese 5-Egg Easter Bread Recipe : Emeril Lagasse : Food Network (http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/portuguese-5-egg-easter-bread-recipe/index.html)

A good Easter treat.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Chris N on 20 May, 2009, 10:40:47 am
Damn, I'm hungry now.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: vorsprung on 20 May, 2009, 11:24:57 am
Damn, I'm hungry now.

On the monday off after the BCM only thing I did after breakfast and before crawling back to bed was put on the bread machine set to "Wholemeal Spicey Fruit Loaf".  It contains 2 eggs and some milk and it is top nosh.

Our bread machine is a panasonic, it is using the recipes from the book that came with it and the yeast I am using is Dove Farm.  There is no yeasty smell
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Ian H on 20 May, 2009, 11:35:35 am


That's not bread, that's breakfast.  Why put milk and eggs in bread?

It improves the texture, the taste, and helps it stay fresh longer.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: iakobski on 20 May, 2009, 01:37:39 pm
Damn, I'm hungry now.

On the monday off after the BCM only thing I did after breakfast and before crawling back to bed was put on the bread machine set to "Wholemeal Spicey Fruit Loaf".  It contains 2 eggs and some milk and it is top nosh.

Our bread machine is a panasonic, it is using the recipes from the book that came with it and the yeast I am using is Dove Farm.  There is no yeasty smell

+1 to the Doves Farm quick yeast (http://www.ocado.com/catalog/images-full/17257011_L.jpg?identifier=3de9dd20b98d05567e61fac861e00c3a])

My machine came with strict instructions to add powdered milk (or fresh milk for some recipes), but I stopped adding it and it made no difference whatsoever.

The smell is not exactly the same as a bread shop, but it's a nice smell, not yeasty or fermentation-like. Love to wake up to the smell of the bread machine!
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Chris N on 20 May, 2009, 01:43:18 pm
I use Dove's yeast too - cheaper and less wasteful than the pre-packed sachets.  My bread (flour, fat, yeast, salt, sugar) keeps fine for four or five days without adding milk/eggs, though it doesn't normally last that long. :P
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Moloko on 20 May, 2009, 02:21:41 pm
Damn, I'm hungry now.

Well there's plenty of yeast in your shoes to help get you started. (well, there was)
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: citoyen on 21 May, 2009, 09:40:25 am
It improves the texture, the taste, and helps it stay fresh longer.

I used to use milk powder because it said so in the recipe for my bread machine, but now I leave it out because I don't like the flavour and the only difference I notice is that the crust is slightly harder without the milk powder.

Re the OP, I would suggest trying it with less sugar than the recipe suggests - the sugar is "food" for the yeast, so more sugar probably means more fermentation.

d.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Julian on 21 May, 2009, 09:43:09 am
Are you using caliper or cantilver?  That might affect it, although I wouldn't apply the brakes to bread anyway.  This might explain the strange smell.



I can't believe nobody else has done that yet.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: clarion on 21 May, 2009, 10:14:15 am
Are you using caliper or cantilver?  That might affect it, although I wouldn't apply the brakes to bread anyway.  This might explain the strange smell.



I can't believe nobody else has done that yet.

I resisted.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: tonycollinet on 21 May, 2009, 10:02:48 pm
Are you using caliper or cantilver?  That might affect it, although I wouldn't apply the brakes to bread anyway.  This might explain the strange smell.



I can't believe nobody else has done that yet.

And I've only just spotted it myself.

And Milk and eggs make good bread - lovely crust.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: nicknack on 21 May, 2009, 10:46:49 pm
I've been biting my tongue too.
Title: Re: (correct?) Smell of braking bread.
Post by: Adrian on 21 May, 2009, 11:08:11 pm
You people with your cheep mocking of an inability to spell