Author Topic: Bryan Chapman 600km BRM + others | 17/18/19th May 2024 | Chepstow (Read 26238 times)

willpom gwraudax · « **Reply #25 on:** 22 April, 2023, 11:35:41 pm »

Quote from: vorsprung on 22 April, 2023, 04:31:43 pm

It's an new route but I think it could be a good one, if a little hillier than some

No hillier than Ritchie's iteration as you get the easy coast road to Aberdyfi.

Quote from: mattc on 22 April, 2023, 07:26:58 pm

Quote from: willpom gwraudax on 22 April, 2023, 10:48:34 am
The outline is on the event page. https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/

Final checks will be done on the helpers ride 2 weeks prior and any amendments made. Everyone who has signed up will then have access to GPX route with control WPs, fully curated route notes in PDF & CSV, through RWGPS Event (even with a free subscription) you'll also get all premium features so FIT, TCX, KML, PDF notes+map inserts, ability to sync with other devices, use of the RWGPS app with offline maps & voice nav etc etc.
Good stuff!

Can you please explain how you expect to run the Start Time Allocation? (4am-6am is mentioned). I've been dead honest with my estimated riding speed, it would be nice to plan with actual start time in mind - 4am is very different to 6am!

(This may start an LEL-style gamification of the system ... )

Those with the fasted av speed will set off at 4am, slowest at 6am. I'm working on a bit of trust as by doing this the field spreads out and everyone (should) get a bed rather than on top of bags, between armchairs etc at Kings. So if you selected a lantern rouge (Bill's Easton Connection spring to mind

) speed it'll be 6am - unless everyone else selects lantern rouge speed too....

Wycombewheeler · « **Reply #26 on:** 23 April, 2023, 11:24:45 pm »

Quote from: willpom gwraudax on 22 April, 2023, 11:35:41 pm

Those with the fasted av speed will set off at 4am,

makes sense, no time for breakfast if you set off at 4

what's the sleeping arrangement at Aberdyfi? Deciding between organising my own B&B either at Machynleth (ambitious) or Penrhyndeudraeth* (early start to make Kings by 06:52) or sleeping at Aberdyfi, looking to get a least 4 hours, as I find that any less means a series of roadside naps, no time saving and less safe. Previously at Kings I wasn't allowed so much.

*A BnB at a place we visit twice allows checking in northbound, allowing for late arrival on the southbound leg, this frees up bed capacity at the controls for others.

Don't remember putting an average speed down, so will await to see my allocated start time.

willpom gwraudax · « **Reply #27 on:** 24 April, 2023, 10:59:20 am »

Depart will be open from 03:00.

Airbeds & blankets at Aberdyfi. Going to be about 90 sleeping spaces in total between here and Kings so the plan is to allow everyone to get a better kip. Pushing the first faster riders on to Aberdyfi as they'll be arriving earlier at Kings earlier anyway, then fill Kings and as Aberdyfi empties push the later mid cohort on to their so the slower riders get a bed at Kings as the first awake.

tonyh · « **Reply #28 on:** 24 April, 2023, 12:17:15 pm »

Looks excellent, Will! Wishing you and everyone well for that Weekend.

(And, speaking from experience, the really slow riders don't need a bed anywhere anyway.)

WillR35 · « **Reply #29 on:** 26 April, 2023, 04:07:43 pm »

Hi Will - really looking forward to this. I just wanted to check on a couple of things:

Parking - says it is at the local farm; do you just turn up at (5am), pay your £5 and off you go.

Registration - is it all on teh Sat am or wil there be a FRiday night option?

Cheers

Ajax Bay · « **Reply #30 on:** 26 April, 2023, 05:05:47 pm »

Here's my draft of what a second day starting at King's YH might look like:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/42677419
233km +2766m, to complement 376km getting there.
Of course for those starting at 4am and riding keenly, this will be all over with a (new)moonless night between sunset (2113) and sunrise (0510).
https://app.photoephemeris.com/?center=52.730471%2C-3.933792&ch=0&cw=100&dt=20230520040700%200100&ll=52.725689%2C-3.950958&sh=1.524&sw=100&z=13
https://app.photoephemeris.com/?center=51.632403%2C-2.673454&ch=0&cw=100&dt=20230521040700%200100&ll=51.628034%2C-2.676029&sh=1.524&sw=100&z=13

TomAplomb · « **Reply #31 on:** 03 May, 2023, 11:08:13 am »

Do we know if it's alright to leave a bag at the start at Bulwark community centre?

iscunonove · « **Reply #32 on:** 03 May, 2023, 12:12:07 pm »

Quote from: TomAplomb on 03 May, 2023, 11:08:13 am

Do we know if it's alright to leave a bag at the start at Bulwark community centre?

I'm pretty sure it is... it says there is secur(ish) luggage storage on the Audax UK webpage and I left a bag last year. Wouldn't leave valuables though.

vorsprung · « **Reply #33 on:** 06 May, 2023, 06:00:14 pm »

Quote from: TomAplomb on 03 May, 2023, 11:08:13 am

Do we know if it's alright to leave a bag at the start at Bulwark community centre?

I doubt it as that isn't the start

mattc · « **Reply #34 on:** 06 May, 2023, 06:03:26 pm »

Quote from: vorsprung on 06 May, 2023, 06:00:14 pm

Quote from: TomAplomb on 03 May, 2023, 11:08:13 am
Do we know if it's alright to leave a bag at the start at Bulwark community centre?

I doubt it as that isn't the start

Reaally? That's frustrfating ... the event page I'm seeing says this under Start/Finish

START:
Please arrive at least 10 minutes before the depart time to collect your brevet card.

Bulwark Community Centre - opens new tab for map.
Laburnam Way, Bulwark, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP16 5RF, Wales

Bikeabilityman · « **Reply #35 on:** 06 May, 2023, 06:41:35 pm »

Bulwark was out of action for the Brevet Cymru last weekend.

vorsprung · « **Reply #36 on:** 06 May, 2023, 07:48:26 pm »

Quote from: mattc on 06 May, 2023, 06:03:26 pm

Reaally? That's frustrfating ... the event page I'm seeing says this under Start/Finish

START:
Please arrive at least 10 minutes before the depart time to collect your brevet card.

Bulwark Community Centre - opens new tab for map.
Laburnam Way, Bulwark, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP16 5RF, Wales

I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the start will be the campsite that they have hired.

The hall is back in action this weekend for coronation nonsense, so probably whatever stopped the Brevet Cymru doesn't apply

Wycombewheeler · « **Reply #37 on:** 07 May, 2023, 08:20:42 am »

ride with gps route is stilt showing Bulwark
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/41370398?privacy_code=EE2wG4547YcVH7xo

as is the GWR event page
https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/

willpom gwraudax · « **Reply #38 on:** 07 May, 2023, 11:12:43 am »

Bulwark Community Centre is the start as per all info. It hasn't closed and has been fully operational throughout their rework. A substantial temporary toilet block is outside and the side entrance into the garden needs to be used.

Bags can be left at the hall.

There will be bag drops to Kings, Menai & Aberdyfi; although I'd highly recommend anyone doing PBP to not use this facility to test your kit setup (other than any sleeping stuff if you want to bed down at Menai or camp at Kings). Bags will be returned to Bulwark once I get back in the van which in all likelihood will be mid afternoonish.

willpom gwraudax · « **Reply #39 on:** 10 May, 2023, 12:58:24 am »

Start times have just been sent out. 3 emails soft bounced and I don't get any idea of from which email address so if you haven't received drop me a message.

Entries from Tuesday 10th onwards are a 05:00 start.

All the specifics will be updated on the event page over the next few days, you need to log in to view.

Hot Flatus · « **Reply #40 on:** 10 May, 2023, 07:12:20 am »

As I can barely walk at the moment I very much doubt I'll be there at 4am

vorsprung · « **Reply #41 on:** 10 May, 2023, 08:46:15 am »

I'm 6am!

Which is good because it's unlikely i would be starting any earlier. The earliest I ever finished the BCM was at 6pm so I am not a fast person

This is my 11th or 12th BCM though so never mind the quality, feel the width

Wycombewheeler · « **Reply #42 on:** 10 May, 2023, 09:11:00 am »

6am for some, not for everyone.

I'm surprised I am not in the 6am group with my slow performance on Will's other rides (Chalke and cheese and full fat festive 500), still improves my chances of making Menai before sunset.

Sunrise is 5:11 in Chepstow on the 20th.
sunset in Menai is 21:17

Looking forward to some new roads after Kings, got to be better than following a line of red lights disappearing into the sky

Email states to use the side gate not the vehicle entrance from Laburnum Way. presumably either this alleyway from Channel View?
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6285104,-2.6762606,3a,90y,175.62h,74.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skrlNz_mTyvstm3zHhIek_A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
or this passage from Cromwell Road
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6275048,-2.6758498,3a,75y,333.04h,94.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDFzFslzY2MLvuUuyCINxqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

haywire · « **Reply #43 on:** 10 May, 2023, 11:58:26 am »

Thinking I may have over-estimated my avg speed. Oh well, there will be plenty of riders passing me...

Byronius Maximus · « **Reply #44 on:** 10 May, 2023, 01:12:45 pm »

6am start time for me, must be a fast field (though it's not a race of course)...I can't remember what average speed estimation I put but I'm surprised it was as low as that would imply. I must have been having a negative day or something. Still, it means I get a "lie in" at least.

Looking forward to it. My only other riding of the BCM was in 2013 and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Fingers crossed the weather isn't too Welsh.

Flatlander · « **Reply #45 on:** 10 May, 2023, 08:52:08 pm »

I'm at 4 which is surprisingly good. Normally I'm a late starter, e.g. no LEL start until after lunch so I get a full nights sleep the night before. However as for the BlackSheep Scenic days I won't be in Chepstow until midnight so a semi wild bivy around the side of the hall assuming works aren't in the way and ready for the 3am HQ opening is good.

Makes Sunday more relaxing as well, GWR failed to get me a bike reservation home leaving Bristol after 16:55 so I was slightly worried about Sunday finish timing but with a 4am start, no problem.

Happy

and looking forward to it. Wonder if there's going to be a hail storm at the top of a hill somewhere?

Ian H · « **Reply #46 on:** 10 May, 2023, 11:40:45 pm »

Quote from: Byronius Maximus on 10 May, 2023, 01:12:45 pm

6am start time for me, must be a fast field (though it's not a race of course)...I can't remember what average speed estimation I put but I'm surprised it was as low as that would imply. I must have been having a negative day or something. Still, it means I get a "lie in" at least.

Looking forward to it. My only other riding of the BCM was in 2013 and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Fingers crossed the weather isn't too Welsh.

My first time was 1993. It seems like quite a long time ago.

N0rb3rt · « **Reply #47 on:** 15 May, 2023, 01:25:50 am »

Will it be possible to use the E-brevet app ?

thing1 · « **Reply #48 on:** 15 May, 2023, 12:39:19 pm »

4am start for me! After getting over the sticker shock, now really looking forward to it!!

Silly question - BCM'23 is an ADVISORY route event isn't it?

(I was surprised for find BC400 was mandatory. Surprised in the sense that I would have thought I'd have noticed before week of event, not in the sense of being disappointed, I really don't mind either way just like to be sure I know before I set off! --- I think the AUK website could use an update to add "Route: [Advisory | Mandatory]" to the "Event Information" on all events. Right now I can't see where this would be displayed on https://www.audax.uk/event-details/10222-bryan_chapman_memorial nor https://www.audax.uk/event-details/9914-brevet_cymru so it's a bit adhoc where to look to find this info)

bhoot · « **Reply #49 on:** 15 May, 2023, 01:11:54 pm »

There is a way to display it on the events if it is marked correctly in the database - I will check why it wasn't showing for BC400 in case we have missed something.

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