Author Topic: TdeF 2017 (Read 95832 times)

TigaSefi · « **Reply #725 on:** 23 July, 2017, 10:59:55 am »

Why start a race at 5 pm in Paris! I got a train to catch!!

T42 · « **Reply #726 on:** 23 July, 2017, 11:31:55 am »

They don't. In Paris it starts at 4 pm.

fd3 · « **Reply #727 on:** 23 July, 2017, 12:09:24 pm »

Quote from: αdαmsκι on 22 July, 2017, 11:50:17 pm

Quote from: Veloman on 22 July, 2017, 09:38:13 pm
And I think what is really impressive is that Team Sky have held the Team classification from start to finish, which just shows how ~~strong a team they were overall.~~ much more money they have compared with other teams.

TigaSefi · « **Reply #728 on:** 23 July, 2017, 12:11:27 pm »

Quote from: T42 on 23 July, 2017, 11:31:55 am

They don't. In Paris it starts at 4 pm.

I am in Paris right now and the schedule is that it'll be on champs Elysees at 5.15pm ::demon !! I'll catch them once and dash to Gare du Nord!

mattc · « **Reply #729 on:** 23 July, 2017, 01:34:30 pm »

Quote from: psyclist on 23 July, 2017, 05:39:33 am

Quote from: Mr Larrington on 22 July, 2017, 07:19:39 pm
No time bonuses at intermediate sprints this year so Landa would have to be in the top three at the end. Can't see it with the likes of Greipel, Matthews, Bouhanni, Degenkolb and probably nine or a dozen others all going for the stage.

I didn't realise there were no time bonuses at the intermediate sprint, so I agree, the podium looks set as it is.

I'm fairly sure that they had them for a period sometime this century, and there was a possible podium place hinging on them one year. Of course the sprinter types grabbed them anyway, but that situation may be what led to scrapping them.

citoyen · « **Reply #730 on:** 23 July, 2017, 01:58:42 pm »

Quote from: mattc on 23 July, 2017, 01:34:30 pm

I'm fairly sure that they had them for a period sometime this century, and there was a possible podium place hinging on them one year. Of course the sprinter types grabbed them anyway, but that situation may be what led to scrapping them.

You might be thinking of 2005, when Vinokourov escaped in the final kilometre to win the stage. The time gap plus bonus seconds saw him jump from 5th to 4th place in GC, ahead of Leipheimer.

And then everyone was disqualified for being dirty cheating nobbers anyway.

mattc · « **Reply #731 on:** 23 July, 2017, 02:05:15 pm »

... so it didn't happen!

T42 · « **Reply #732 on:** 23 July, 2017, 04:16:05 pm »

Beer ? ?

T42 · « **Reply #733 on:** 23 July, 2017, 04:18:56 pm »

Sky team car already has "Tour de France 2017" painted on the door (just above the sill). Tut. Still got 94 km to go.

mattc · « **Reply #734 on:** 23 July, 2017, 04:22:13 pm »

Quote from: T42 on 23 July, 2017, 04:18:56 pm

Sky team car already has "Tour de France 2017" painted on the door (just above the sill). Tut. Still got 94 km to go.

"Best Team Winners ... "

T42 · « **Reply #735 on:** 23 July, 2017, 04:42:23 pm »

Hmm....

Wowbagger · « **Reply #736 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:15:55 pm »

Why does everyone assume that the podium positions have already been decided when there's still a stage to go?

T42 · « **Reply #737 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:24:30 pm »

Convention. I suppose Landa could still try to get his 750 msec deficit back but it would be terribly bad form.

Never much liked watching the bit down from l'Etoile to Concorde. Pedalling in the gutter with the pedals half an inch off the kerb is hair-raising.

A few spots of rain... Jaja remarks that if it rains the commissaires could freeze all the times at the next time they go over the line.

woollypigs · « **Reply #738 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:26:52 pm »

Goodbye Little Thomas V, I'll miss you.

Oh rain in Paris, all I will say about that ... ouch!

Wowbagger · « **Reply #739 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:30:22 pm »

Quote from: T42 on 23 July, 2017, 05:24:30 pm

Convention....

So if there's a crash and Froome is taken out and can't continue, he will still be declared the winner?

Exit Stage Left · « **Reply #740 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:31:42 pm »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 23 July, 2017, 05:15:55 pm

Why does everyone assume that the podium positions have already been decided when there's still a stage to go?

The 'Tour de France' has two meanings. It's a bike race, but it's also a reference to the circuit of France made by journeymen artisans on their way to becoming masters. Completing the 'Tour de France' confirms your status. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compagnons_du_Tour_de_France

The final stage is more of a graduation ceremony, and the racing is restricted to the circuits of the Champs Elysee, so as not to risk accidents which would prevent a completion.

This year's Tour has been trying to emphasise the artisan products of regional natural parks. To read the Tour as simply a bike race is facile, but we live in facile times.

woollypigs · « **Reply #741 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:32:49 pm »

That depends on the call from the organisers. They might call time on the first crossing of the line becasue of the rain. Because we will have crashes today.

T42 · « **Reply #742 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:42:51 pm »

Quote from: woollypigs on 23 July, 2017, 05:26:52 pm

Goodbye Little Thomas V, I'll miss you.

There was a suggestion that he might be accorded the honour of crossing the line first when the peloton entered the Champs, but it didn't happen.

StuAff · « **Reply #743 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:43:43 pm »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 23 July, 2017, 05:30:22 pm

Quote from: T42 on 23 July, 2017, 05:24:30 pm
Convention....

So if there's a crash and Froome is taken out and can't continue, he will still be declared the winner?

Nope. He has to finish the final stage within the time limit. Same for all the jerseys- even though there are no climbs at all on the stage, Barguil has to finish to win KOM, and Matthews must finish to win green. The last time the final stage was actually competitive (1989 time trial) it cost Laurent Fignon the win, so I doubt the organisers ever wish to repeat that...

T42 · « **Reply #744 on:** 23 July, 2017, 05:54:09 pm »

Non-competitive now for the GC, but the green jersey could change hands on the Champs.

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #745 on:** 23 July, 2017, 06:03:14 pm »

What are the odds on De Gendt going for a long one just to rub ASO's nose in it over the Prix de Combativité

T42 · « **Reply #746 on:** 23 July, 2017, 06:05:21 pm »

Trivium re the statue of Joan of Arc: the woman who posed for it died in 1937, burnt alive when her apartment caught fire.

Quote from: Mr Larrington on 23 July, 2017, 06:03:14 pm

What are the odds on De Gendt going for a long one just to rub ASO's nose in it over the Prix de Combativité

WB's already been given the global Combativity doodah.

Clare · « **Reply #747 on:** 23 July, 2017, 06:25:04 pm »

Somebody please tell *** and SDM that the plural is Tours de France not Tour de Frances.

woollypigs · « **Reply #748 on:** 23 July, 2017, 06:28:06 pm »

Well done chaps see you in Spain soon. ITV live please hint hint nudge nudge.

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #749 on:** 23 July, 2017, 06:37:29 pm »

Quote from: T42 on 23 July, 2017, 06:05:21 pm

Quote from: Mr Larrington on 23 July, 2017, 06:03:14 pm
What are the odds on De Gendt going for a long one just to rub ASO's nose in it over the Prix de Combativité

WB's already been given the global Combativity doodah.

Quite. And everyone apart from Bethany (7) thinks it's a total chiz. Well, Super D Millar does anyway.