Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: Tewdric on 25 October, 2012, 04:51:32 pm
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Very interesting prospect detailed here!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/tour-de-france/9631608/Tour-de-France-poised-to-start-in-Scotland-as-Britain-pushes-for-five-stages.html
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Looks exciting.
Thinking of next year, I liked this Wiggo quote: “I want to be in a successful team and, if that’s Chris, so be it. He will have to grow some sideburns, though.”
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Hmmm.. 5 stages will be around the 1000km mark and joining them up into one might make quite a cool point to point randonée for he week before le tour, on the newly resurfaced roads....
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5 stages is taking the piss a bit isn't it? It's great that the tour visits other countries, but they'll have to rename it Le tour d'autres pays at this rate...
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That's another stage in "le Tour" becoming a brand in itself, isn't it? Like "the Dakar" which once was the Paris-Dakar race but now takes place on a different continent from either of those places.
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5 stages is taking the piss a bit isn't it? It's great that the tour visits other countries, but they'll have to rename it Le tour d'autres pays at this rate...
I think the Tour should pay homage to the traditions of British cycling. A prologue 10, followed by a 50, a 100 and a 12 hour on the fastest courses on successive days. All run to RTTC rules. Let's see the climbers fight their way back from that.
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^ ;D ;D
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According to inrng it's starting in Leeds in 2014 and two stages to the Channel
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It was just confirmed on TMS (of all places). Boycott was pleased.
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According to inrng it's starting in Leeds in 2014 and two stages to the Channel
Is that 3 stages? Prologue + 2 stages? Or is t'TT in Yorkshire then one stage Southward? I've looked at a couple of sites and it's not clear.
Early days I spose.
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Sky just announced it on their Facebook feed as well. No real details as yet.
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Brilliant!
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Looks like a trip to Leeds is on the cards for 2014 then! I haven't been there for about 20 years. Last time I passed out in a phone box after a day at the crickeeet :P
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Apparently 2 x stages in Yorks then 1 x London then > France. Superb. Let's all get behind this and show Johnny Foreigner the best we have.
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Apparently 2 x stages in Yorks then 1 x London then > France. Superb. Let's all get behind this and show Johnny Foreigner the best we have.
As long as there isn't a farce involving NYP like the ToB, it'll be brilliant (there is a good chance of this as there appears to be a plan to include York in a stage)
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Looks like a trip to Leeds is on the cards for 2014 then! I haven't been there for about 20 years. Last time I passed out in a phone box after a day at the crickeeet :P
Leeds is only 20 minutes away from my dad's = convenient. ;D
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I hope they're going to have a 12 Hour on Boroughbridge to honour the finest moment in the career of Yorkshire's greatest ever cyclist. The least they can do is to route the prologue TT through Morley.
http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=32314
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Apparently 2 x stages in Yorks then 1 x London then > France. Superb. Let's all get behind this and show Johnny Foreigner the best we have.
As long as there isn't a farce involving NYP like the ToB, it'll be brilliant (there is a good chance of this as there appears to be a plan to include York in a stage)
I wonder if they'll enter York along Tadcaster Road? That really would be very convenient for chateau Bunbury :)
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The T de F comes to the UK 4 times and two of those are Plymouth & Leeds. We sure know how to treat those pro riders well, dont we? ;)
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I'm booking some time off work as soon as the routes announced !
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5 stages is taking the piss a bit isn't it? It's great that the tour visits other countries, but they'll have to rename it Le tour d'autres pays at this rate...
I think the Tour should pay homage to the traditions of British cycling. A prologue 10, followed by a 50, a 100 and a 12 hour on the fastest courses on successive days. All run to RTTC rules. Let's see the climbers fight their way back from that.
The traditions that saw UK cyclists and cycling in the basement of World cycling for many years? ::-)
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5 stages is taking the piss a bit isn't it? It's great that the tour visits other countries, but they'll have to rename it Le tour d'autres pays at this rate...
I think the Tour should pay homage to the traditions of British cycling. A prologue 10, followed by a 50, a 100 and a 12 hour on the fastest courses on successive days. All run to RTTC rules. Let's see the climbers fight their way back from that.
The traditions that saw UK cyclists and cycling in the basement of World cycling for many years? ::-)
We'll never know what British amateurs might have been capable of on a level playing field. Mens cycling never really had fairness as a priority, at either the professional level or at the amateur level dominated by the Eastern Bloc and the Italians.
The only indication we had was through women's cycling, which had no Olympic representation or a professional scene. Beryl Burton's dominance was probably exceptional.
I hope that British cycling hasn't achieved success by adopting dubious methods, but because those dubious methods have been stamped out. We haven't become more like them. They have been forced to become more like us. They may even develop a sense of humour like ours at some point.
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Well can they not look up the LEL route for the roads south to London on the third day. They need a 300Km stage.
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Great news.
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Disappointing that the British Cycling-backed Edinburgh-Wales-England bid didn't win tbh, I think that would have been much more of a spectacle.
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Disappointing that the British Cycling-backed Edinburgh-Wales-England bid didn't win tbh, I think that would have been much more of a spectacle.
Being a dim witted Yorkshireman perhaps you could explain to me in simple terms why you think that.
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Ah yes, Leeds, the Athens of the North. A much more spectacular city than Edinburgh.
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This is for 2014 when anything north of the border will be overshadowed by the Commie games?
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Disappointing that the British Cycling-backed Edinburgh-Wales-England bid didn't win tbh, I think that would have been much more of a spectacle.
Being a dim witted Yorkshireman perhaps you could explain to me in simple terms why you think that.
Because he's Welsh!
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Disappointing that the British Cycling-backed Edinburgh-Wales-England bid didn't win tbh, I think that would have been much more of a spectacle.
Being a dim witted Yorkshireman perhaps you could explain to me in simple terms why you think that.
Because a Grande Depart in Edinburgh (and celebrating the Auld Alliance) would be spectacular in a way that Leeds is never going to be able to match. Also a run down to London could have taken in Yorkshire, but also the Borders and some of the most beautiful scenery found south of the Central Belt. Obviously it'd be even better if they started in Inverness, but you can't have everything.
TBH, I think one of the reasons for the Yorks start is that it's only 3 stages before they get to France rather than the 5 that BC had been working on.
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I wonder what the route will be ? I am guessing they will do a loop from Leeds into he Dales and include Harewood house and Harrogate for the first day and then on the second day maybe a York start and across the Moors maybe via Castle Howard. the A169 Pickering to Whitby would be good to include.
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Disappointing that the British Cycling-backed Edinburgh-Wales-England bid didn't win tbh, I think that would have been much more of a spectacle.
Being a dim witted Yorkshireman perhaps you could explain to me in simple terms why you think that.
Because he's Welsh!
;D
I also spent a few years working in Edinburgh, and enjoyed the cycling scene there and made a lot of friends. The new velodrome will start a resurgence in bike racing in the area so they'd be guaranteed big crowds - as they would in Wales (see the Caerphilly Mountain Taffosi). Wales and Scotland are used to being left out of the Tour of Britain on alternate years so this would be a chance to make an inclusive Tour start.
Whenever I express this opinion I'm greeted by the strange sight of Yorkshiremen telling me to cheer up... Are they going to rename it the Tour t'France? :P
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Perhaps the TdF organisers were concerned that a final sprint down Princes Street might be jeopardised by the tram lines.
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Suggestion from today's club run: prologue up the Rake.
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Well this could be a little competition for when you've eaten the Christmas pudding and settled down in your armchair. Design a route for Stage 1 Leeds - Scarborough, Stage 2 York - Sheffield.
Presumably they will want it to be a showcase that will attract as many people as possible and they won't want there to be anything that will rule out any of the favourites at such an early stage.
Who can get nearest to the actual stages which will be made public in the middle of January.
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Are you going to Scarborough fair?
Yes, at 25mph, but not up Sutton Bank 'cos that would be far too selective.
Also, how about this (http://goo.gl/maps/KvcZj) for a York - Sheffield stage? I can dream ...
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You missed the opportunity to head a little South and East and ride accross the Humber Bridge. The heli shots of the peleton crossing the suspension bridge would be awesome.
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Yes but the other side of the bridge isn't in Yorkshire ...
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Yes but the other side of the bridge isn't in Yorkshire ...
Neither side is in Yorkshire! ;D
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I wouldn't bother with Sheffield. Getting from York to Sheffield would waste too many miles on an uninspiring route. Nothing wrong with Sheffield its just taht with only tow days it would eat up too much time. If there was a third then a a Sheffield Peak district loop would be great.
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Yes but the other side of the bridge isn't in Yorkshire ...
Neither side is in Yorkshire! ;D
The north side is in East Yorkshire.
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Yes but the other side of the bridge isn't in Yorkshire ...
Neither side is in Yorkshire! ;D
The north side is in East Yorkshire.
AKA Humberside....
(I know, it is officially East Yorkshire, but they wanted to disassociate themselves from Yorkshire, and it will ALWAYS be Humberside to me, plus it is a very easy way to wind up anyone who lives there that actually cares, hence the smiley)
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(I know, it is officially East Yorkshire, but they wanted to disassociate themselves from Yorkshire, and it will ALWAYS be Humberside to me, plus it is a very easy way to wind up anyone who lives there that actually cares, hence the smiley)
Hardly anybody wanted to be in Humberside. There was a huge campaign to get rid of Humberside from the moment it was formed.
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You missed the opportunity to head a little South and East and ride accross the Humber Bridge. The heli shots of the peleton crossing the suspension bridge would be awesome.
I see your Humber Bridge and raise you this (http://goo.gl/maps/y0fGy), this (http://goo.gl/maps/fc2br) and this (http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/products/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hill-climb-winats-pass.jpg).
It'll never happen, they're far to selective.
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The reason I suggested Leeds-Scarborough and York -Sheffield is that I've seen that suggested on some other site, but I can't find it again. Feel free to offer other suggestions.
I think Sheffield is likely because they will want to be heading south, I think it is highly likely that Holme Moss will be included on the second stage, do any of you remember the "Wincanton Classic" which evolved into the "Leeds Classic". The route went from Leeds via several local climbs to a circuit which included Holme Moss and then went very near Sheffield before looping back to Leeds.
There has also been a suggestion that Mirfield/Huddersfield will be included to "honour" Brian Robinson which would also suggest Holme Moss.
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I'd be interested to know what category the famous Yorkshire climbs would come into. I have a gut feeling that there isn't anything above Cat 3.
http://www.examiner.com/article/tour-de-france-postcard-to-climb-a-mountain-and-categorize-it
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I'd be very surprised if there were. The very steep ones are not very long. The long ones are not Alpine steep (nor Alpine length, I should add).
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I'd be interested to know what category the famous Yorkshire climbs would come into. I have a gut feeling that there isn't anything above Cat 3.
http://www.examiner.com/article/tour-de-france-postcard-to-climb-a-mountain-and-categorize-it
Rosedale Chimney - cerainly Cat 1 on the Milk Race I think (but my memory may be getting fuzzy)
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Not long enough, surely? ???
Perhaps Milk Race Categories are different. I don't know.
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I'd be very surprised if there were. The very steep ones are not very long. The long ones are not Alpine steep (nor Alpine length, I should add).
I heard Charlie Wegalius say words to that effect once re training when staying back in North Yorkshire, the steep ones are too short and the long ones are too shallow. He couldn't get any decent training in (being a climbing specialist).
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Hey! I have something in common with Charlie Wegelius!*
* It certainly isn't the speed of my cycling.
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The geatest difficulty will be finding good climbs that the whole tour caravan will be able to get round , Im struggling to think of any atm
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What about the A59 Blubberhouses ravine. That would look nice on TV.
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Hey! I have something in common with Charlie Wegelius!*
* It certainly isn't the speed of my cycling.
York? Bootham School?
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What about the A59 Blubberhouses ravine. That would look nice on TV.
Okay, how about this (http://goo.gl/maps/hw1pY) for a stage?
Starts in Leeds, climbs Blubberhouses ravine, passes through Skipton for some coverage, wanders round the Dales trying not to be too selective, descends Greenhow Hill into Pateley Bridge for some more good TV, climbs the 'easy' way out of PB and then wanders round Ripon and Thirsk and finally down the A59, allowing plenty of time for M. Cavendish & co. to catch the breakaway in time for a sprint finish in York.
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Just got an invite to an event outside Leeds Town Hall on Thursday Jan 17th 6:00 to 7:00pm.
At this event the route will be announced to the media. I'm in London for 7 weeks so cant attend biut if you want to be the first to find out the route tahts when it will be revealed.
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Stop the world, I wanna get off;
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Le-depart-a-belfast-en-2014/341594
le départ du Giro 2014 sera donné de Belfast, en Irlande du Nord. Les coureurs devraient ensuite passer par Dublin, en Irlande, avant de rallier l'Italie. Fin octobre, le Belfast Telegraph, qui avait révélé la candidature irlandaise, estimait à 4,7 millions d'euros le coût de l'événement. Il précédera de peu le Grand Départ du Tour de France 2014 à Leeds, dans le Yorkshire.
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Awesome! I may have to pop home to see my brother that weekend! ;D
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Stop the world, I wanna get off;
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Le-depart-a-belfast-en-2014/341594
le départ du Giro 2014 sera donné de Belfast, en Irlande du Nord. Les coureurs devraient ensuite passer par Dublin, en Irlande, avant de rallier l'Italie. Fin octobre, le Belfast Telegraph, qui avait révélé la candidature irlandaise, estimait à 4,7 millions d'euros le coût de l'événement. Il précédera de peu le Grand Départ du Tour de France 2014 à Leeds, dans le Yorkshire.
I'm soo looking forward to the idiotic comments in the Telegraph and the Mail when they run the story!
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It's getting morer and morerer excitinger!
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Innrng reporting:
St 1 Leeds-Harrogate (sprint finish expected)
St 2 York-Sheffied (8 climbs)
St 3 Cambridge London (same finish as olympic route)
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Stop Press, as announced on Radio Leeds this morning.
Premiere etape Saturday 5th July 2014.
Leeds - Harewood - Otley - Ilkley - Skipton - Kettlewell - Aysgarth - Thwaite - Leyburn - Masham - Ripon - Harrogate.
Deuxieme Etape Sunday 6th July 2014.
York - Harrogate - Silsden - Keighley - Haworth - Hebden Bridge = Ripponden - Elland - Huddersfield - Holme Moss - Sheffield.
A few missing details but they say that the full route is on the BBC Radio Leeds website.
IMO they have the potential to make a superb start to the event, plenty of hills and bringing the tour into the heart of the populated districts of Yorkshire.
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So that's over C**k Hill, Cragg Vale and poss. Ripponden Bank (Haworth > Elland)
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Excellent. Stage One sounds like it will cover a lot of the roads I used to ride when I was a student in Leeds. Nothing too challenging for the pros but some great scenery. :thumbsup:
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Can I ride the direct way from York to Holme Moss in the time that it takes the pros to go the long way round? That is the question :D
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Deuxieme Etape Sunday 6th July 2014.
York - Harrogate - Silsden - Keighley - Haworth - Hebden Bridge = Ripponden - Elland - Huddersfield - Holme Moss - Sheffield.
A few missing details but they say that the full route is on the BBC Radio Leeds website.
Can't find the full route but pretty sure it'll be going very close to my dad's on the stretch from Elland to Huddersfield.
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St 3 Cambridge London (same finish as olympic route)
Have they told Cancellara yet?
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Can I ride the direct way from York to Holme Moss in the time that it takes the pros to go the long way round? That is the question :D
almost certainly not
But . . . . .
Train from York to Hudds, cycle to Holme Moss *might* be doable.
Maybe we need to co-ordinate this and make it a yacf outing.
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With all this interest in cycling and Yorkshire, one might wish to dress appropriately (http://milltag.cc/shop/new/yorkshire-national). :)
1. No flat caps involved
2. I have no connection to the company concerned other than owning some of their products.
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July 5th - Map (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=leeds&daddr=Harewood+to:Otley+to:Ilkley+to:Skipton+to:B6160+to:Hawes+to:Reeth+to:Leyburn+to:Ripon+to:Harrogate&hl=en&sll=54.12865,-1.73996&sspn=0.639736,1.234589&geocode=FT_xNAMd6V7o_ymZvWTaSj55SDGp3BMC_bqtUQ%3BFYByNgMdeu7o_ymJ1oz0glB5SDHP3gobWxeljA%3BFaGJNgMddi_m_ylBy3TXRv17SDFAYI33OdEPCg%3BFW7WNgMdny_k_yktiycP1uJ7SDHA9p22CQPKSQ%3BFV1rNwMdF03h_ykH2cpJBoZ7SDHILoxG5o16TA%3BFY11PAMdhxPi_w%3BFROdPAMdYXLe_ykNAsZWnG58SDFCK_hxYTQEmA%3BFVrlPQMdYlni_ylDdbk0IxZ8SDGQEW3tnvkMBQ%3BFdeyPAMdGCDk_ylDi9xb6A18SDFoqmlIvpOEMg%3BFVgLOgMd2rHo_ynVJI_JKQB8SDFPZKYeTyu0MQ%3BFbjaNwMdTHno_ykBvXVxI055SDH_pN6q-4TAAw&oq=Harrogate&mra=ls&t=m&z=9)
July 6th - Map (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=York&daddr=Knaresborough+to:Silsden+to:Keighley+to:Haworth+to:Hebden+Bridge+to:Elland+to:Huddersfield+to:Holmfirth+to:Sheffield&hl=en&sll=53.6981,-1.54777&sspn=0.646362,1.234589&geocode=FT1mNwMd5H3v_ynxZZjhQMN4SDHR5FSKiat0Rw%3BFY4kOAMd1I3p_ylpINEECUx5SDGJNu2Hy7upOA%3BFbavNgMdHHDi_ylb5YBnIfB7SDEt2zaSQGjWRQ%3BFRP1NQMd2tHi_ykTxC1XSY17SDFjrX8x6fuLeQ%3BFQtiNQMdy0Hi_ym7n1LWku57SDHGNdI18jSdCQ%3BFcgONAMdo0jh_ymflaobzJR7SDGQ-p_codnQmg%3BFS8lMwMdP9nj_ym9dgGP1dx7SDErA2Cqhb_f7A%3BFeCRMgMdNcPk_ym7t80rE2J5SDEXaomMSTo8ZQ%3BFaBwMQMdTL7k_ymbojjtzsR7SDGQbUcxgXp9gA%3BFQmILgMde5Hp_ykVvuj6qQp5SDF4sAav9ScoPg&mra=ltm&t=m&z=9)
I'm going to ride the route over the summer. Really chuffed it's going through Otley (just moved here).
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Surely on the York - Sheffield day they'd have them climb Holme Moss once they leave Holmfirth? That'd be a great place to go watch.
Do we need to book camping pitches in your garden now DrMekon? :P
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DrM, if you're taking bookings, I'll put my name down right now. And a space for the bike, obviously - couldn't possibly come to Otley without going for a ride.
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July 6th - Map (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=York&daddr=Knaresborough+to:Silsden+to:Keighley+to:Haworth+to:Hebden+Bridge+to:Elland+to:Huddersfield+to:Holmfirth+to:Sheffield&hl=en&sll=53.6981,-1.54777&sspn=0.646362,1.234589&geocode=FT1mNwMd5H3v_ynxZZjhQMN4SDHR5FSKiat0Rw%3BFY4kOAMd1I3p_ylpINEECUx5SDGJNu2Hy7upOA%3BFbavNgMdHHDi_ylb5YBnIfB7SDEt2zaSQGjWRQ%3BFRP1NQMd2tHi_ykTxC1XSY17SDFjrX8x6fuLeQ%3BFQtiNQMdy0Hi_ym7n1LWku57SDHGNdI18jSdCQ%3BFcgONAMdo0jh_ymflaobzJR7SDGQ-p_codnQmg%3BFS8lMwMdP9nj_ym9dgGP1dx7SDErA2Cqhb_f7A%3BFeCRMgMdNcPk_ym7t80rE2J5SDEXaomMSTo8ZQ%3BFaBwMQMdTL7k_ymbojjtzsR7SDGQbUcxgXp9gA%3BFQmILgMde5Hp_ykVvuj6qQp5SDF4sAav9ScoPg&mra=ltm&t=m&z=9)
I'm going to ride the route over the summer. Really chuffed it's going through Otley (just moved here).
Cool. Halifax Road into Huddersfield is a 5 minute walk from my dad's. I've told him to expect bobb and I. He says we can have a tent on top of Holme Moss. Dad humour. ::-)
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The wimps!
They aren't using the Holme Moss + Snake Pass route!
:o
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http://letour.yorkshire.com/the-route
Are they doing that mad climb out of Buckden (not the Fleet Moss Rd)?
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http://letour.yorkshire.com/the-route
Are they doing that mad climb out of Buckden (not the Fleet Moss Rd)?
No. That's too far north.
Looks as though the prologue passes close to SteveGT's house, too! Shame they couldn't have routed it through Morley, for Beryl Burton.
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The wimps!
They aren't using the Holme Moss + Snake Pass route!
:o
Oh yes they are!
Here's stage 1
(http://letour.yorkshire.com/images/letour/Route1Large.jpg)
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...and here's stage 2.
(http://letour.yorkshire.com/images/letour/Route2Large.jpg)
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http://letour.yorkshire.com/the-route
Are they doing that mad climb out of Buckden (not the Fleet Moss Rd)?
No. That's too far north.
Wait, I was looking at the wrong day!
It's still a No, though. They're going over Buttertubs, then back along Wensleydale and over Kidstones to Wharfedale.
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http://letour.yorkshire.com/the-route
Are they doing that mad climb out of Buckden (not the Fleet Moss Rd)?
No, It is following the B6160 to Aysgarth.
I think you are confusing Buckden with Kettlewell and the Park Rash climb.
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The wimps!
They aren't using the Holme Moss + Snake Pass route!
:o
Oh yes they are!
That's a relief, I thought the tour had gone soft.
'twas mislead by this:
July 6th - Map (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=York&daddr=Knaresborough+to:Silsden+to:Keighley+to:Haworth+to:Hebden+Bridge+to:Elland+to:Huddersfield+to:Holmfirth+to:Sheffield&hl=en&sll=53.6981,-1.54777&sspn=0.646362,1.234589&geocode=FT1mNwMd5H3v_ynxZZjhQMN4SDHR5FSKiat0Rw%3BFY4kOAMd1I3p_ylpINEECUx5SDGJNu2Hy7upOA%3BFbavNgMdHHDi_ylb5YBnIfB7SDEt2zaSQGjWRQ%3BFRP1NQMd2tHi_ykTxC1XSY17SDFjrX8x6fuLeQ%3BFQtiNQMdy0Hi_ym7n1LWku57SDHGNdI18jSdCQ%3BFcgONAMdo0jh_ymflaobzJR7SDGQ-p_codnQmg%3BFS8lMwMdP9nj_ym9dgGP1dx7SDErA2Cqhb_f7A%3BFeCRMgMdNcPk_ym7t80rE2J5SDEXaomMSTo8ZQ%3BFaBwMQMdTL7k_ymbojjtzsR7SDGQbUcxgXp9gA%3BFQmILgMde5Hp_ykVvuj6qQp5SDF4sAav9ScoPg&mra=ltm&t=m&z=9)
I'm going to ride the route over the summer. Really chuffed it's going through Otley (just moved here).
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http://letour.yorkshire.com/the-route
Are they doing that mad climb out of Buckden (not the Fleet Moss Rd)?
No. That's too far north.
Looks as though the prologue passes close to SteveGT's house, too! Shame they couldn't have routed it through Morley, for Beryl Burton.
Deano - it does but I will be off to watch the tour at the top of Kidstones :)
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http://letour.yorkshire.com/the-route
Are they doing that mad climb out of Buckden (not the Fleet Moss Rd)?
No. That's too far north.
Looks as though the prologue passes close to SteveGT's house, too! Shame they couldn't have routed it through Morley, for Beryl Burton.
Deano - it does but I will be off to watch the tour at the top of Kidstones :)
Cool. I think I'd fancy Buttertubs - it's pretty open up there, so you mightn't need to get there that early (though my dad was saying you'd have to go up the day before and pitch your tent to get a decent view).
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It's our club dinner tomorrow. I predict these top five topics of conversation:
1) This is really exciting isn't it!
2) Where are you going to watch?
3) Will we be doing anything as a club at the day 2 depart? Any support races?
4) Will we then have time to ride over to Holme Moss or Sheffield before the pros get there?
5) Do you still have your old club jersey to collect autographs?
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http://letour.yorkshire.com/the-route
Are they doing that mad climb out of Buckden (not the Fleet Moss Rd)?
No. That's too far north.
Looks as though the prologue passes close to SteveGT's house, too! Shame they couldn't have routed it through Morley, for Beryl Burton.
Deano - it does but I will be off to watch the tour at the top of Kidstones :)
Cool. I think I'd fancy Buttertubs - it's pretty open up there, so you mightn't need to get there that early (though my dad was saying you'd have to go up the day before and pitch your tent to get a decent view).
That will be a bit of a worry - when to actually get to where you want to watch before all the good spots are taken.
Sunday will be a ride to the top of Oxenhope Moor. I think you will need to sleep on Holme Moss for a decent view point.
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Alastair Brownlee has tweeted that it's going right past his house. Might be worth tapping him up for a camping pitch too?
d.
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I don't know the area, but are they going up the infamous Rosedale Chimney?
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Given there's no prologue, Cav could win yellow in his mum's hometown if he manages to keep the pace over Buttertubs. He'll want that.
[X post: No, Rosedale Chimney is in the NY moors, which are on the other side of the Vale of York.]
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They will be going over Ilkley Moor though. Alas, with hats on.
[edit: actually, it looks like they're skirting round Ilkley Moor to the north & west. Bah!]
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So who'll be the first to paint a CDC on Cock Hill?
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They will be going over Ilkley Moor though. Alas, with hats on.
Someone had to make that joke.
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Happy to oblige. Shame it's not true though. :-[
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I think I shall be riding down to Ripon on the first day and then get the train to York for the second day.
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I was thinking about the top of Cragg Vale,but our by -then 3 yr.old would prob.be better at Hebden Bridge.some of those summits eg Cragg or the climb out of Oxenhope will be mental esp.if the weather is good.
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Two points stand out for photography. The road near Muker for the 'Shaun the sheep' factor.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Muker&hl=en&ll=54.374858,-2.129116&spn=0.041396,0.099392&sll=53.851717,-3.022614&sspn=0.33213,0.795135&oq=Muker&t=h&hnear=Muker,+North+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&z=13&layer=c&cbll=54.374838,-2.129315&panoid=SgL3etMhaWgawtSGlzDkxw&cbp=12,309.38,,0,4.62
And the climb between Reeth and Leyburn. which has a good background with the riders visible for a long time.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Reeth&hl=en&ll=54.368059,-1.924582&spn=0.020701,0.049696&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=5.44288,12.722168&oq=Reeth&t=h&hnear=Reeth,+North+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.367975,-1.923959&panoid=uCctEkeNIl8Zl_-GHH0UzQ&cbp=12,314.22,,0,19.27
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I think I shall be riding down to Ripon on the first day and then get the train to York for the second day.
No train station in Ripon anymore (closed 1967). Nearest would be Harrogate or Northalerton.
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I think I shall be riding down to Ripon on the first day and then get the train to York for the second day.
No train station in Ripon anymore (closed 1967). Nearest would be Harrogate or Northalerton.
I know! I don't think you realise where I live (and I wasn't clear in my post) FWIW I live in Northallerton :)
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I think I shall be riding down to Ripon on the first day and then get the train to York for the second day.
No train station in Ripon anymore (closed 1967). Nearest would be Harrogate or Northalerton.
I know! I don't think you realise where I live (and I wasn't clear in my post) FWIW I live in Northallerton :)
Oops sorry. Mrs Pcolbeck was born in Northallerton.
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http://letour.yorkshire.com/the-route
Are they doing that mad climb out of Buckden (not the Fleet Moss Rd)?
No. That's too far north.
Looks as though the prologue passes close to SteveGT's house, too! Shame they couldn't have routed it through Morley, for Beryl Burton.
Deano - it does but I will be off to watch the tour at the top of Kidstones :)
Cool. I think I'd fancy Buttertubs - it's pretty open up there, so you mightn't need to get there that early (though my dad was saying you'd have to go up the day before and pitch your tent to get a decent view).
Which is exctly what I was thinking of doing , my only concerns are , water for the camping and then spending all night there only to loose your spot if you have to nip of for a pee . I think the Buttertubs might well be rammed , Im not sure how all the marketing lorries will fare there are some pretty narrow and sharp corners as you drop down into Hawes.
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Might want to be careful where you pitch round the Buttertubs ;D
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Which is exctly what I was thinking of doing , my only concerns are , water for the camping and then spending all night there only to loose your spot if you have to nip of for a pee . I think the Buttertubs might well be rammed , Im not sure how all the marketing lorries will fare there are some pretty narrow and sharp corners as you drop down into Hawes.
there's a waterfall half way up buttertubs.
here (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hawes&aq=&sll=53.22134,-0.773948&sspn=0.014928,0.046134&vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Hawes,+North+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.33084,-2.207651&spn=0.013163,0.092268&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.330698,-2.2076&panoid=yuVry6Sq8rOaiyIjcuTUvA&cbp=12,72.43,,0,4.28)
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Edited: Misplaced post. ???
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Excitement mounts early in SW London. We have friends in Heptonstall who have invited us up to stay for when this all happens.
Can't wait.
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I'm surprised that the handlebars held out. I would have thought that copper pipe would bend quite severely at that length. But you were right.
Wobbly's workshop?
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I'm seriously tempted to go and camp out on Holme Moss for this.
What do you reckon, get there the night before? I'd just be bivviing in the heather.
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I'm surprised that the handlebars held out. I would have thought that copper pipe would bend quite severely at that length. But you were right.
Wobbly's workshop?
Yeah. How in hell did that come to be posted here? ???
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Which is exctly what I was thinking of doing , my only concerns are , water for the camping and then spending all night there only to loose your spot if you have to nip of for a pee . I think the Buttertubs might well be rammed , Im not sure how all the marketing lorries will fare there are some pretty narrow and sharp corners as you drop down into Hawes.
there's a waterfall half way up buttertubs.
here (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hawes&aq=&sll=53.22134,-0.773948&sspn=0.014928,0.046134&vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Hawes,+North+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.33084,-2.207651&spn=0.013163,0.092268&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.330698,-2.2076&panoid=yuVry6Sq8rOaiyIjcuTUvA&cbp=12,72.43,,0,4.28)
In a previous life as a caver i spent lots of time following streams , unfortunately , at the same time I noticed how often dead animals or animal shit could be found in or close to these streams , its put me off completely from drinking untreared water , bit of a wimp I know.
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Excitement mounts early in SW London. We have friends in Heptonstall who have invited us up to stay for when this all happens.
Can't wait.
Ill be heading to that area for day 2 got a friend lives in Cornholme whos invited me over for the day. :thumbsup:I too cant wait
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In a previous life as a caver i spent lots of time following streams , unfortunately , at the same time I noticed how often dead animals or animal shit could be found in or close to these streams , its put me off completely from drinking untreared water , bit of a wimp I know.
I've never noticed any such thing which is probably why it doesn't bother me ;)
In all seriousness though I have heard a rumour that anything over 1,000ft ASL is safe, otherwise maybe not.
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It ain't dead animals that is the main thing to worry about on the fells; you should be worrying about liver fluke. Any water source in a sheep farming area should be regarded as contaminated.