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General Category => The Knowledge => OT Knowledge => Topic started by: border-rider on 01 February, 2009, 10:51:09 pm

Title: National grid power balance
Post by: border-rider on 01 February, 2009, 10:51:09 pm
http://www.dynamicdemand.co.uk/grid.htm

Here's where you can watch for the grid falling over :)
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: redshift on 01 February, 2009, 11:09:55 pm
The shifty household much prefers the graphs here (http://www.nationalgrid.com/uk/Electricity/Data/Realtime/).  :)

Mr Shifty is somewhat ...um... specialised in his hobbies.  I think, if he could have access to the realtime SCADA feed, he'd have it as his wallpaper...  ::-)
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: Chris S on 01 February, 2009, 11:12:42 pm
Mmmm... Pickups  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: TimO on 02 February, 2009, 12:14:28 am
MV, the link you posted is returning a 404, and the server URL by itself is also returning a 404, which suggests something seriously fubared with the server or it's configuration.

The Last 24 Hours plot from redshifts link isn't working either, it keeps on timing out on the plot itself, which is a shame, since I was wondering what the snow was doing to the demand for power.
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: border-rider on 02 February, 2009, 09:13:19 am
MV, the link you posted is returning a 404, and the server URL by itself is also returning a 404, which suggests something seriously fubared with the server or it's configuration.

The Last 24 Hours plot from redshifts link isn't working either, it keeps on timing out on the plot itself, which is a shame, since I was wondering what the snow was doing to the demand for power.

Sorry, that link worked last night.  It does look as if it has fallen over.

Redshift's link to the NG graph works for me though.

Quote
Demand: 50065MW
Frequency: 49.91Hz
08:18:45 GMT
System Transfers

N.Ireland to Great Britain: -266MW
France to Great Britain : 506MW
North-South: 8983MW
Scot - Eng: 2467MW
02/02/2009 09:11:00 GMT

:)
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: pcolbeck on 02 February, 2009, 09:18:22 am
http://www.dynamicdemand.co.uk/grid.htm

Here's where you can watch for the grid falling over :)

Well until it actually does that is as at that point the computer you are watching it on and your Internet router go down as well :)
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 March, 2024, 10:23:33 pm
15 years is a long time in power generation. This seems like a vaguely relevant thread.

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5968889,0.5652062,3a,85.4y,96.74h,69.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8GvCf9xLEUpATBdvGmpEbQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I drive past this national grid site quite regularly. Are those large container-sized thin gummies storage batteries?
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: Kim on 03 March, 2024, 11:29:22 pm
That would be my guess, they're obviously a recent addition and not part of the substation itself.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/19669841.battery-storage-facility-built-off-a129-rayleigh/
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: JonBuoy on 03 March, 2024, 11:31:34 pm
Probably this: https://stateraenergy.co.uk/projects/dollymans-storage
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 March, 2024, 09:16:36 am
Probably this: https://stateraenergy.co.uk/projects/dollymans-storage

Ugh
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Capacity

100MW

But wait, they also cite the duration; 1hr

So the capacity is 100MWh.

FFS
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: rr on 04 March, 2024, 10:59:48 am
15 years is a long time in power generation. This seems like a vaguely relevant thread.

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5968889,0.5652062,3a,85.4y,96.74h,69.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8GvCf9xLEUpATBdvGmpEbQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I drive past this national grid site quite regularly. Are those large container-sized thin gummies storage batteries?
They are indeed, I visited the site for work in the summer.
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: redshift on 04 March, 2024, 04:38:08 pm
Blimey. Blast from the past, or what?

Anyway, Mr Shifty nowadays uses Kate Morley's site: https://grid.iamkate.com/

The battery storage isn't fully reported yet, but it will happen eventually, I'm sure.
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: aidan.f on 04 March, 2024, 07:17:02 pm
Now this has some retro style, but to geddit you do need to have seen a paper chart recorder 

https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

I admit that Kate Morley's is easier to interpret and provides more info

Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: Kim on 04 March, 2024, 08:56:12 pm
That one's looking a bit long in the tooth these days.  The graphs (which look more RRDTool than chart recorder) could really do with some more pixels, but I can't fault the gauges.
Title: Re: National grid power balance
Post by: Wombat on 05 March, 2024, 05:21:20 pm
Yes, that's my default one, but it is indeed looking a bit 1990's by now.  I sometimes use it to offend those types who insist that electric cars are really coal powered.