10 21.36
10 21.36
I think my 22:53 on the Q10/22 (Harrietsham, Kent) later that year might have been a better ride - it's a fairly demanding course.
I have entered the Catford CC Open 10 26th April on that course, I'm not sure wether to leave the 76" gear on or put the 72" back on, it is quite rolling.
...I am thinking about entering the E3/10 at Bottisham (only a few miles from home) next week. I should probably renew my membership (membership of BC is current, but not of Cambridge CC).
10 mile 21-29 K6s Stafford RC club event 27/8/80
...I am thinking about entering the E3/10 at Bottisham (only a few miles from home) next week. I should probably renew my membership (membership of BC is current, but not of Cambridge CC).
"British Cycling" (so called) is not the governing body for time trialling in England and Wales (oh, dear me, no!).
You need to be a member of a club affiliated to good old CTT to enter time trials - Cambridge CC would do very nicely, I'm sure. Although unless it's a club event, you are almost certainly too late to enter that particular one.
...you can just turn up on the line and pay £1 according to the website...Ah - that's the "come and try it" scheme, the rules for which were always a bit hazy :)
10 mile 21-29 K6s Stafford RC club event 27/8/80
Pre tri-bars, too - I take my hat off to you!
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/525364527_429295e971.jpg)
ego suitably massaged
...you can just turn up on the line and pay £1 according to the website...Ah - that's the "come and try it" scheme, the rules for which were always a bit hazy :)
Still, if you intend to take TTing even slightly seriously, it's well worth being in a club with a TTing tradition.
My 31'0 was on a Trek 1000 without tri bars. I'm having tri bars put on $newbike.
I've done a lot of "10s".As you get to know the course you also know where you need to push, and where you can get a bit back.
You progress quite rapidly, largely because as you get to know a course you can pace yourself better. I know, for instance, that I have to be out of the last roundabout by 21 minutes to be anywhere near PB.
Tri-bars are pretty essential; I've even used them on my Thorn Nomad (with rack, lights and mudguards) for sopping wet TTs, and scraped in at about 28:30.
Wear non-flappy clothing and try and maintain a constant power input (easier to gauge on flat courses), letting rip in the last half mile. If you overcook it and feel oxygen debt or incipient cramp, you'll need to ease off but by then the time damage has been done. Listen to what your legs and lungs are telling you.
If possible try and sign on immediately behind one or two of the slower riders (the ones doing it for a laugh on MTBs are a good bet). Having someone to chase, and hopefully pass, is much better than riding on your own and only being passed yourself.Where do you get these guys? The ones locally 'doing it for a laugh' are the ones without disk wheels/deep section rims and pointy hats.. The ones of us on normal road bikes.
It's very tempting to take risks with cars at roundabouts if you're "on a ride", but there'll be another week.
Statistically, TTing is fairly dangerous, with the odd death each year. Look where you're going too, because it's all too easy to stare at your front tyre in the aero position. A former head of personnel at our place killed himself by doing this - straight into the back of a parked Range Rover.
I did 26:41 on 70" fixed a few years ago. It's not a fast course, and I'm not a fast rider.
As for the MTB riders - there's one guy who used to do the full A1 dragstrip thing with a 60T chainring, pointy hat, skinsuit, carbon bike etc but finally realised he was going mad and now rides an MTB with knobblies. His times vary from evens to about 36".
I did 26:41 on 70" fixed a few years ago. It's not a fast course, and I'm not a fast rider.
As for the MTB riders - there's one guy who used to do the full A1 dragstrip thing with a 60T chainring, pointy hat, skinsuit, carbon bike etc but finally realised he was going mad and now rides an MTB with knobblies. His times vary from evens to about 36".
Excuse my ignorance, but what does "evens" mean in this context?
24/04/08 E3/10 30'20 (ish - official times not released yet)
24/04/08 E3/10 30'20 (ish - official times not released yet)
Well done - your first 10?
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Correction E3/10 24.04.08 30'15
Neil, I guess I should try to work out who you are next week. ;D
Maybe you saw me. I was in an Assos short-sleeved top, on the Madone. Pumpers will be along in a minute to tell you which celebrity I look like. 8)
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
A local club (Shaftesbury) has started their weekly 10 mile TT series near to me and I'm thinking of entering a few this year. Will be a new experience for me as I've not raced at all before. I'll be riding fixed wheel and I'm confident of going under half an hour. Anyone got any tips for me? Like, what sort of training should I be doing? should I invest in some aero-bars? Etc.Southend Wheelers are doing their TT around Steeple (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Steeple&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=12.652358,31.948242&ie=UTF8&z=13) on Wed evenings.
A local club (Shaftesbury) has started their weekly 10 mile TT series near to me and I'm thinking of entering a few this year. Will be a new experience for me as I've not raced at all before. I'll be riding fixed wheel and I'm confident of going under half an hour. Anyone got any tips for me? Like, what sort of training should I be doing? should I invest in some aero-bars? Etc.
Correction E3/10 24.04.08 30'15Typical climber's time ;)
Southend Wheelers are doing their TT around Steeple (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Steeple&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=12.652358,31.948242&ie=UTF8&z=13) on Wed evenings.
A 10 is just an eyeballs-out, grimace-and-bear-it, flat-out ride. Get as low as you can. Use interval training to get as fast as you can.
A local club (Shaftesbury) has started their weekly 10 mile TT series near to me and I'm thinking of entering a few this year. Will be a new experience for me as I've not raced at all before. I'll be riding fixed wheel and I'm confident of going under half an hour. Anyone got any tips for me? Like, what sort of training should I be doing? should I invest in some aero-bars? Etc.
A 10 is just an eyeballs-out, grimace-and-bear-it, flat-out ride. Get as low as you can. Use interval training to get as fast as you can.
Southend Wheelers are doing their TT around Steeple (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Steeple&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=12.652358,31.948242&ie=UTF8&z=13) on Wed evenings.
Not so easy for me to get to that one. I can ride to the Shaftesbury events from home in Chelmsford (actually it would be from Braintree if I factor in the ride from work to home as well), which should be a decent enough warm-up.A 10 is just an eyeballs-out, grimace-and-bear-it, flat-out ride. Get as low as you can. Use interval training to get as fast as you can.
I've been practising going flat-out (or near flat-out) for 10 miles of a 20 mile circuit from home - and can maintain a 20mph average. I've not been looking forward to taking up interval training, but I guess it's got to be done if I want to go faster! I don't have a turbo trainer so all training will have to be done on the roads.
Correction E3/10 24.04.08 30'15Typical climber's time ;)
A local club (Shaftesbury) has started their weekly 10 mile TT series near to me and I'm thinking of entering a few this year. Will be a new experience for me as I've not raced at all before. I'll be riding fixed wheel and I'm confident of going under half an hour. Anyone got any tips for me? Like, what sort of training should I be doing? should I invest in some aero-bars? Etc.Having returned to TTing last summer after 40+ years, I fitted aero-bars after the 1st five events, I reckon they knocked around 30secs of my 10 time. (26:25 at the moment). They seem to be the gizmo that gives the biggest improvement in speed and they're relatively inexpensive.
Maybe we should reconnaissance the Shaftesbury route at the weekend? The Spesh may have to make its first appearance of the year if the weather is good :thumbsup:
I fitted aero-bars after the 1st five events, I reckon they knocked around 30secs of my 10 time. They seem to be the gizmo that gives the biggest improvement in speed and they're relatively inexpensive.
...aero-bars...
Practice with them before the event, and come back on the drops when cornering, going over bumby surfaces or honking - until you get used to them as bike handling is very much reduced. Good Luck :)
A 10 is just an eyeballs-out, grimace-and-bear-it, flat-out ride. Get as low as you can. Use interval training to get as fast as you can.
IMO There is slightly more to it than that - that approach will get you 'a good ride' but you can also do specialised intervals and progress through out the season building up to one 'big ride' with better results
A 10 is just an eyeballs-out, grimace-and-bear-it, flat-out ride. Get as low as you can. Use interval training to get as fast as you can.
IMO There is slightly more to it than that - that approach will get you 'a good ride' but you can also do specialised intervals and progress through out the season building up to one 'big ride' with better results
Oh yes, I agree. I was just talking about the ride itself. As someone much faster than I once said to me, "There's no 'pacing yourself' on a 10, it's just flat-out on the pain barrier all the way."
Actually, that's a good way of judging how well you did - if it didn't hurt you weren't trying hard enough.
'if it didn't hurt....' definitely, at the finish your legs should be burning and you should be 'coughing youe guts up' ;D
...As someone much faster than I once said to me, "There's no 'pacing yourself' on a 10, it's just flat-out on the pain barrier all the way."
I'll need to get a new speedo before next time - just hurting isn't enough of a guide, speed is the key.
I'll need to get a new speedo before next time - just hurting isn't enough of a guide, speed is the key.
A heart rate monitor would be a better guide, and an (expensive) power meter better still... speed is too dependent on conditions. You can be doing a very good ride (relative to other competitors) and still not going very fast. Or you can be flying along with a tailwind, and not trying hard enough. A HRM tells you if you are slacking.
I'll need to get a new speedo before next time - just hurting isn't enough of a guide, speed is the key.
A heart rate monitor would be a better guide, and an (expensive) power meter better still... speed is too dependent on conditions. You can be doing a very good ride (relative to other competitors) and still not going very fast. Or you can be flying along with a tailwind, and not trying hard enough. A HRM tells you if you are slacking.
...The highest maximum HR (using the most opimistic formulae I can find) for may age (64) is 170 BPM. During a "10" my HR will be around 160 - 165 peaking at 175BPM, I have to fight the temptation to throttle back at 170BPM for fear of blowing the engine.
I'm doing my first TT of the season this evening (Old Ports 12.6 mls) - if it's not p*ssing down. :)
I have mixed feelings regarding HRMs. They certainly tell you when your not trying, but as you get older and begin to feel less invinciple, they frighten you to death.
The highest maximum HR (using the most opimistic formulae I can find) for may age (64) is 170 BPM. During a "10" my HR will be around 160 - 165 peaking at 175BPM, I have to fight the temptation to throttle back at 170BPM for fear of blowing the engine.
...HRmax does trend down at about 1bpm (although it will vary between individuals) so it's best to re-evaluate your HRmax each year.
I'll need to get a new speedo before next time - just hurting isn't enough of a guide, speed is the key.
A heart rate monitor would be a better guide, and an (expensive) power meter better still... speed is too dependent on conditions. You can be doing a very good ride (relative to other competitors) and still not going very fast. Or you can be flying along with a tailwind, and not trying hard enough. A HRM tells you if you are slacking.
I'll need to get a new speedo before next time - just hurting isn't enough of a guide, speed is the key.
A heart rate monitor would be a better guide, and an (expensive) power meter better still... speed is too dependent on conditions. You can be doing a very good ride (relative to other competitors) and still not going very fast. Or you can be flying along with a tailwind, and not trying hard enough. A HRM tells you if you are slacking.
Paul Manning rode the Duo Normande with Chris Boardman (and they still have course record) He reckoned that Boardman was going up the climbs within his pulse zone, but went down the other side at the same effort.Then Boardman was not a student of fluid dynamics. Because of the rise in friction with v^2, once you're freewheeling downhill at, say 30mph, it requires a lot of power to go 1mph quicker.
I'll need to get a new speedo before next time - just hurting isn't enough of a guide, speed is the key.
A heart rate monitor would be a better guide, and an (expensive) power meter better still... speed is too dependent on conditions. You can be doing a very good ride (relative to other competitors) and still not going very fast. Or you can be flying along with a tailwind, and not trying hard enough. A HRM tells you if you are slacking.
I have mixed feelings regarding HRMs. They certainly tell you when your not trying, but as you get older and begin to feel less invinciple, they frighten you to death.
The highest maximum HR (using the most opimistic formulae I can find) for may age (64) is 170 BPM. During a "10" my HR will be around 160 - 165 peaking at 175BPM, I have to fight the temptation to throttle back at 170BPM for fear of blowing the engine.
I'm doing my first TT of the season this evening (Old Ports 12.6 mls) - if it's not p*ssing down. :)
Paul Manning rode the Duo Normande with Chris Boardman (and they still have course record) He reckoned that Boardman was going up the climbs within his pulse zone, but went down the other side at the same effort.Then Boardman was not a student of fluid dynamics. Because of the rise in friction with v^2, once you're freewheeling downhill at, say 30mph, it requires a lot of power to go 1mph quicker.
At least SOME of that power would be better spent where you're only doing 15mph flat out at your "average" effort.
Of course, if you overdo this you'll cook yourself, but there must be a compromise somewhere in between.
I'll need to get a new speedo before next time - just hurting isn't enough of a guide, speed is the key.
A heart rate monitor would be a better guide, and an (expensive) power meter better still... speed is too dependent on conditions. You can be doing a very good ride (relative to other competitors) and still not going very fast. Or you can be flying along with a tailwind, and not trying hard enough. A HRM tells you if you are slacking.
I have mixed feelings regarding HRMs. They certainly tell you when your not trying, but as you get older and begin to feel less invinciple, they frighten you to death.
The highest maximum HR (using the most opimistic formulae I can find) for may age (64) is 170 BPM. During a "10" my HR will be around 160 - 165 peaking at 175BPM, I have to fight the temptation to throttle back at 170BPM for fear of blowing the engine.
I'm doing my first TT of the season this evening (Old Ports 12.6 mls) - if it's not p*ssing down. :)
Where do the old portlians run there TT from then?
I'll have to try and get along to that, especially as the Bexley CC West Kingsdown course is still shut until end of May due to roadworks.
Paul Manning rode the Duo Normande with Chris Boardman (and they still have course record) He reckoned that Boardman was going up the climbs within his pulse zone, but went down the other side at the same effort.Then Boardman was not a student of fluid dynamics. Because of the rise in friction with v^2, once you're freewheeling downhill at, say 30mph, it requires a lot of power to go 1mph quicker.
At least SOME of that power would be better spent where you're only doing 15mph flat out at your "average" effort.
Of course, if you overdo this you'll cook yourself, but there must be a compromise somewhere in between.
It's physiology, not fluid dynamics. Boardman rode at a more or less constant effort, carefully graded on the basis of his considerable experience to be sustainable over the distance to be ridden, and with a slight increase above maximum sustainable power output towards the end of the race. There's no doubt that that is the best approach, physiologically speaking - it means that you have a slowly accumulating intramuscular acidosis, but do not reach a level which is catastrophic to muscle function until you have just crossed the line, when it doesn't matter any more.
...if your answer was always right, then we would not see elevated heart rates during climbs on mountain stages, and we wouldn't see riders eating on the descents.
So there.
Is their speed irrelevant to them?...if your answer was always right, then we would not see elevated heart rates during climbs on mountain stages, and we wouldn't see riders eating on the descents.
So there.
They aren't time trialling, though, are they?
Is their speed irrelevant to them?...if your answer was always right, then we would not see elevated heart rates during climbs on mountain stages, and we wouldn't see riders eating on the descents.
So there.
They aren't time trialling, though, are they?
You eat going down hill because gravity helps maintain your pace while your firkin around in your pockets and fumbling with the energy bar wrapper.... which does in fact reinforce my point.
Is their speed irrelevant to them?
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Paul Manning rode the Duo Normande with Chris Boardman (and they still have course record) He reckoned that Boardman was going up the climbs within his pulse zone, but went down the other side at the same effort.
...As someone much faster than I once said to me, "There's no 'pacing yourself' on a 10, it's just flat-out on the pain barrier all the way."
I didn't find that the fastest strategy; physiologically, depth and frequency of breathing requires ~3mins to adjust to demand, so I think that during the first three minutes of a 10 it is unproductive to try and go flat out. After all, it is still an endurance, rather than a sprint, event - compare it with athletics, where the closest equivalent is something between 5,000 and 10,000m.
Having said that, the people who are able to chat happily 5 minutes after finishing are the ones who don't know how to "get it all out". I couldn't speak anything but rubbish for a good half hour after a 10.
Bitterly cold and a stiff easterly tonight.
30:19 :(
Not so good.
Lots of times being quoted, but where is the context of winner's time?
A 28 minute 10 with the winner doing 27 is different to if the winner does 19.
In Belgium no one ever talks about time, only position and gap to the winner.
. . . In Belgium no one ever talks about time, only position and gap to the winner.
Lots of times being quoted, but where is the context of winner's time?
A 28 minute 10 with the winner doing 27 is different to if the winner does 19.
In Belgium no one ever talks about time, only position and gap to the winner.
...In Belgium no one ever talks about time, only position and gap to the winner.
Lots of times being quoted, but where is the context of winner's time?
A 28 minute 10 with the winner doing 27 is different to if the winner does 19.
In Belgium no one ever talks about time, only position and gap to the winner.
...5th sounds much better than 1:04:48 tho'.
Wow-wow! Well done David. Back on the TT scene next week I hope, on a 75''. I trialled the bike today and it goes...
Date Distance Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden Time
1981? 10 miles Boroughbridge Good Aende 23-42
1982 25 miles F1 Good Aende 1-1-17
1980? 50 miles Cheshire Good Aende 2-12-?? I think
1980? 100 miles Cheshire Good Aende 4-54-??
1979 12 hours Cheshire Good Aende 217.70 miles
Could check the details but wouldn't make much difference.
Can I have the prize for the biggest difference with my current times? 30-46 for the club 10 last night on the same Aende...
Lots of times being quoted, but where is the context of winner's time?
A 28 minute 10 with the winner doing 27 is different to if the winner does 19.
In Belgium no one ever talks about time, only position and gap to the winner.
If I was interested in having a go at a TT, how would I need to train to ensure I didn't make a complete noodle of myself?
Damn, I knew I wouldn't fit in. It didn't go down well on Sunday when I offered G & T's from the roadside. I can be serious, normally between the hours of 4 and 5 am though which isn't much good in a time trial. Perhaps I will do my own time trials, take the fixie and load it up with marmite sandwiches, sticking one on the bottom of each foot for luck. :)If I was interested in having a go at a TT, how would I need to train to ensure I didn't make a complete noodle of myself?
This may be an unfounded prejudice, but I would have thought that TT types would take it all very seriously and that there would be no place for the sort of frivolity which is de rigueur when you've got a marmite sandwich stuck to your foot.
If I was interested in having a go at a TT, how would I need to train to ensure I didn't make a complete noodle of myself?
If I was interested in having a go at a TT, how would I need to train to ensure I didn't make a complete noodle of myself?
If TT'ing is the same as when I used to ride you wouldn't make a fool of yourself. In the cafe at the finish you would have race winners sharing a cup of tea with mr average club TT-er.
Training wise if you cycle regularly and have miles in the legs the next step would be to develop 'cruising' speed by tackling long intervals of around 5 mins - modern terminology would use words like 'anaerobic threshold'
If I was interested in having a go at a TT, how would I need to train to ensure I didn't make a complete noodle of myself?
I always finish near the bottom of the list. Tonight was the first time I did better than that. And to be honest, the only thing people care about is that you enjoy it. Your time is irrelevant to them (unless you are competetive for the top spots or aboutthe same time as them so they can use you as a marker)
Isn't Boro' one ofthe faster 10 courses?
I was going to have a go at the Ely CC 13 mile TT on Tuesday as it is in on a course I know Well, but I didn't..
Pathetice excuses..
1.. I had done a 100 Mile Charity ride on Sunday and still hurt ( a bit )
2.. I was going to use the skip/project bike as the Dawes is just to heavy, but it is a bit of an embarresment.
3.. I actually set out to ride to the start and convinced myself that I was going quite quickly, until I was passed by 2 people obviously on their way to the same thing. I felt like I was going backwards.
4.. Not sure if the ego caould stand finishing very last ? ( Hows that for negative thinking ?? )
I AM going to enter one..I am sure, possibly ::-) ::-)
Terms to be discussed on Sunday ??
But, yes, why not.
EDIT.. Shy and retiring..Not the Annie I know surely ???
As for training, I really ought to do some at some point. In the last 2 months I have done more miles warming up for and riding 10's than all the rest combined. Not many at all.
..d
£500 bike vs £2000 bike - bring it on! If I had the money though I'd be on one in a second.
Good news everyone; I've just had a great TT and that was after staying up late last night and eating a large bar of dairy milk with crunchie. UI can therefore only conclude that these are beneficial for performance!
We'll ingore the good warm up I had for a change!
A sub 24 minute 10 on a regular road bike with regular road kit!
I appear to have agreed to do a TT :-\ however, I didn't say what year.
Good news everyone; I've just had a great TT and that was after staying up late last night and eating a large bar of dairy milk with crunchie. UI can therefore only conclude that these are beneficial for performance!
We'll ingore the good warm up I had for a change!
I appear to have agreed to do a TT :-\ however, I didn't say what year.
They're great fun. Remember a great tip I was once given though; push yourself till you're going to be sick then ease back a little and then hold that pain level. The fun thing... you get that afterwards, not during!
A sub 24 minute 10 on a regular road bike with regular road kit!
Blimey that's great.
I appear to have agreed to do a TT :-\ however, I didn't say what year.
A sub 24 minute 10 on a regular road bike with regular road kit!
Blimey that's great.
I appear to have agreed to do a TT :-\ however, I didn't say what year.
Oi !! No getting out of it Annie..a deal is a deal..
Simple Answer, Ely is only 1 hour from Needham Market ( I have recent experience of this ) so come up on a Tuesday night . I am sure you will be very welcome. A Bit of glamour always goes down well, and your not to bad either ;) ;)
A sub 24 minute 10 on a regular road bike with regular road kit!
The tighter one Annie. More aerodynamic!
I have agreed to do a TT on 1st July :-\ No going back now.
I have agreed to do a TT on 1st July :-\ No going back now.
You could always go along and watch first. I did that last week when TOKaMak did his first TT. I was a bit apprehensive as I didn't want to enter and do a shit time! Now I realise that it really doesn't matter. Even the super fast guys on bling machines were really friendly and one guy rocked up and did a really crap time but nobody mocked or blanked him just because he was slow.
I doubt I'll be able to leave work early enough today to do the local 10, but next week I'll be there and I don't care if I come in last with 35 mins or something!
The only person I've ever seen mocked at a time trial was the guy who'd won the event consistently for the last 2 years and who did a bad time at the same time that someone else did a good one!
Annie; you'll be fine. You're only racing yourself anyhow!
A sub 24 minute 10 on a regular road bike with regular road kit!
A sub 24 minute 10 on a regular road bike with regular road kit!
The tighter one Annie. More aerodynamic!
If tightness is the key then it should be my tri-suit with my 'Skins' top :)
Would that be your Omega special with Zipp 606 and 808? Hardly regular road kit ;-)
The tighter one Annie. More aerodynamic!
If tightness is the key then it should be my tri-suit with my 'Skins' top :)
I feel hot suddenly...
Whenever I go, without much specific training, the chit-caht at the beginning and end, the 26-27' effort on my fixed etc. all make it a great time out.
Date Distance Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden Time
19/6 10Mi Country, one bump, poor surface Nice, windy finish Track fixed, 42x16 27:03 (fastest riders in the 24:20ish I think)
Not bad for a return after over two months away without any specific fast training. I plan to move to a 75'' next week and then to an 80''. That should help as I was running out of gear for most of the course. I am pleased with the way I paced myself though. I think I gave whatever was available considering how I struggled home!
More adanced (for subsequent times):
4) If you're not one of the first three off, check what time they leave and then calculate the time you leave based on when they left. Alternatively, check the time keeper's watch.
5) The best warmup; start 5.5 minutes before you're off. 1 min spinning, 30 secs race pace. Repeat 3 times in total. Get to the start 2 mins before you're due to leave.
Most of all though, just enjoy. People are friendly before and after so just chat to some people.
On a standard Trek 1200 with a pair of clip on bars.
On a standard Trek 1200 with a pair of clip on bars.
Hey, that's what I started out on. Did a PB that lasted for 3 years! It's also the only bike that I've ever won a road race on after accidentally breaking away!
Some of the times in this thread are seriously depressing me :(
Don't worry, we all started somewhere. My first 10 was a 30.04!
Don't worry, we all started somewhere. My first 10 was a 30.04!
Thanks for the advice - I will let you know my time.
I'll be riding a steel Colombus framed Peugeot Performance !
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
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20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
There was a guy out on Tuesday who turned up in baggy shorts and clip on tri-bars. I only beat him by 5 secs...but then again, he did do a 22.40!
That was his 4th TT!
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
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20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
Very warm but also quite windy I was dissapointed not to beat 27 mins but will try again soon with a bigger gear :)
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
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20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
Very warm but also quite windy I was dissapointed not to beat 27 mins but will try again soon with a bigger gear :)
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
Well a bigger gear on a hillier course and I was faster :thumbsup: not much but on a hilly course I was pleased with that.
Date Dist Course Weather Time
25/6/08 10 UC182 v.windy 26.16
02/7/08 10 UC182 windy 25.22
09/7/08 10 UC182 wet&windy 24.50
Damn. Someone has recommended I 'give it a go' and I'm a bit tempted... I might soon be joining your jolly tales of vomiting and seeing stars.
Damn. Someone has recommended I 'give it a go' and I'm a bit tempted... I might soon be joining your jolly tales of vomiting and seeing stars.
Damn. Someone has recommended I 'give it a go' and I'm a bit tempted... I might soon be joining your jolly tales of vomiting and seeing stars.
Mike you will do well with your power and someone to chase. :thumbsup:
Mike you will do well with your power and someone to chase. :thumbsup:
Oi!! - are you calling me fat?
;)
Damn. Someone has recommended I 'give it a go' and I'm a bit tempted... I might soon be joining your jolly tales of vomiting and seeing stars.
Damn. Someone has recommended I 'give it a go' and I'm a bit tempted... I might soon be joining your jolly tales of vomiting and seeing stars.
After 3 weeks of TT ing, I can recommend it, an excellent evening out with like minded individuals insert different meaning if required !
Date Dist Course Weather Time
25/6/08 10 UC182 v.windy 26.16
02/7/08 10 UC182 windy 25.22
09/7/08 10 UC182 wet&windy 24.50
16/7/08 10 UC182 dry 25.06
First one of the season for me yesterday.
Flattish 10, dry but windy, 24:36. Not great, but 35 seconds faster than I've gone before in perfect conditions. A pro can do this course in 20 mins, good club rider time about 22 mins. 21:55 was the fastest yesterday.
I was riding a better bike, but i've also done some training (only a bit mind). Don't know which was most responsible for my new turn of speed.
I'll be doing some 25s (an hour and 7 mins is my best there) and maybe a 50 (not done one yet) later in the season.
08/05/08 Just taken my 10 time down to 24:13. Wahhhhh!
Blah, was it the national? can't see myself doing a 100 for a long time :hand:
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
FixedWheelNut - you appear to have 4 time trial bikes. How on earth do you choose?
E3/10 24.04.08 30'15 E3/10a 24.07.08 28'05
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
You reckon that course was flat!?!?!
The last mile is up a 2 or 3% hill!
You aren't a real TTer until you've thrown up whilst still pedalling!Easy. Eat scampi and chips 20' before the start.
You aren't a real TTer until you've thrown up whilst still pedalling!
You aren't a real TTer until you've thrown up whilst still pedalling!
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
Date Dist Course Weather Time
25/6/08 10 UC182 v.windy 26.16
02/7/08 10 UC182 windy 25.22
09/7/08 10 UC182 wet&windy 24.50
16/7/08 10 UC182 dry 25.06
30/7/08 10 UC182 warm 24.41
*Any suggestions to help overcome tiredness on incline, would be gratefully received
Are you riding fixed? Is the hill steep enough that you run out of (sensible) gears? If not, and at the risk of disagreeing with the forum's leading '100' rider, I don't think hills need any training - it's all a question of pacing.*Any suggestions to help overcome tiredness on incline, would be gratefully received
Shit loads of hill repeats. Find the baddest hill around and learn to love it :-)
Last ten of the season last night. Finished third overall in the competition and top vet - I think there's a prize !! (£10?)
Now there's the hillclimbs to do. Managed to be second vet last year, so there's room for improvement.
Are you riding fixed? Is the hill steep enough that you run out of (sensible) gears? If not, and at the risk of disagreeing with the forum's leading '100' rider, I don't think hills need any training - it's all a question of pacing.*Any suggestions to help overcome tiredness on incline, would be gratefully received
Shit loads of hill repeats. Find the baddest hill around and learn to love it :-)
We all slow down a bit on hills - if you don't, then you obviously aren't trying hard enough on the flat bits!
the forum's leading '100' rider
The point of hill repeats for me is to beast yourself on a training session, then anything on the flat or on a hill at a slightly lower effort will feel 'easy'. Not sure I'm explaining myself very well.
I'm not riding fixed at the moment, and the hill isn't steep enough that I run out of sensible gears on my geared bike.Sorry, I did some unclear quoting back there ...
I agree that hills are a question of pacing, but I think that needs some practice. After a couple of years of riding only fixed I had to learn to use my gears again. I can get up most hills in most gears, but it's certainly faster in some gears than in others.
The point of hill repeats for me is to beast yourself on a training session, then anything on the flat or on a hill at a slightly lower effort will feel 'easy'. Not sure I'm explaining myself very well.Yup, riding hills is an excellent way to FORCE yourself to train in the critical zones. Of course, it's purely psychological, as I can ride on the flat at 180bpm too, but we all need every motivational trick we can get!
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
Date Dist Course Weather Time
25/6/08 10 UC182 v.windy 26.16
02/7/08 10 UC182 windy 25.22
09/7/08 10 UC182 wet&windy 24.50
16/7/08 10 UC182 dry 25.06
30/7/08 10 UC182 warm 24.41
06/8/08 10 UC182 dry 24.27
Date Dist Course Weather Time
07/8/08 10 Clarion nice/windish 26.12
Reasonably pleased. Am still not *dying* though and still riding a 79''. I could accommodate a mid 80'' gear now I think, and would hope to follow FWN. The work done in recent weeks1 has led to a 23 sec. improvement on that sporting course though.
1 I am aiming for a couple of 25s in late August and September and riding longer distances at present. Hence sticking to 79'' as well.
I am a very happy bunny ! Unlike all the TT racing snakes on here I am best described as built for comfort, not speed.
However, last night I achieved my personal ambition for the year by reaching evens in the Ely 10mile TT.
29.04 on a somewhat breezy course.
It has only taken 5 weeks and a new frame..not much really ;) ;)
I can retire now. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
doing my first one tomorrow night.. am quite nervous, I've even fitted tri bars!
how do I find out what the route is from the strange looking course number?
Good Luck.. which Bike are you using ?
What is the course number? Someone may know it.
good idea - I'll ping maladict(a) and see if he knows it.. it's F16/10 from Barton (nr cambridge).
Hopefully this address takes you to Cambridge CC web page , then click on Time Trial and F16/10 is shown there :)
Cambridge Cycling Club (http://www.cambridgecc.org.uk/)
it's F16/10 from Barton (nr cambridge).
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
My first go tonight... finally I can add something to this thread!!
It was out to a roundabout and back, with a [surprisingly large!] hill in the middle with a brisk headwind for the first half.
It was all a bit of a blur but I realised my goose was well and truely cooked about 10 minutes in when I was struggling to maintain double figures towards the top of the hill, I think I worked much too hard into the headwind going uphill. From then onwards it was a balancing act, watching my heart rate and trying to keep it in a sensible range (I hit 196, average was 188. My maximum is 197).
time? - total 29.50 by my watch, after I got to the turn in 16.20 so the second half was 13.30. Pleased with the second half, but I think if I'd taken 5% off the work in the first part, then I'd have a lot more left towards the end.
I was waiting at the start and chatting to a couple of others and this guy I vaguely recognise rolls up. "Evening Hutch", someone says, then I twigged where I'd seen his photo. He came past at about 10 minutes, having started 3 minutes behind, which was nice.
My first go tonight... finally I can add something to this thread!!
It was out to a roundabout and back, with a [surprisingly large!] hill in the middle with a brisk headwind for the first half.
It was all a bit of a blur but I realised my goose was well and truely cooked about 10 minutes in when I was struggling to maintain double figures towards the top of the hill, I think I worked much too hard into the headwind going uphill. From then onwards it was a balancing act, watching my heart rate and trying to keep it in a sensible range (I hit 196, average was 188. My maximum is 197).
time? - total 29.50 by my watch, after I got to the turn in 16.20 so the second half was 13.30. Pleased with the second half, but I think if I'd taken 5% off the work in the first part, then I'd have a lot more left towards the end.
I was waiting at the start and chatting to a couple of others and this guy I vaguely recognise rolls up. "Evening Hutch", someone says, then I twigged where I'd seen his photo. He came past at about 10 minutes, having started 3 minutes behind, which was nice.
Well done Mike. I hate that course, there's always a roaring headwind and cars come really close. (and I never do a good time on there :-[)
Neil
Well done Mike. I hate that course, there's always a roaring headwind and cars come really close. (and I never do a good time on there :-[)
Neil
*now* he tells me! My official time was actually a bit better than I'd measured and - best news of all- I wasnt last!!
Bottisham course tomorrow, will try and pace myself a bit better.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
I only rode a few club 10s this year. If we can keep this thread going all winter, I'm going to feel compelled to make more of an effort next season :D
My brother's riding a 10 mile TT in Fife this Sunday. I'm going up to get some pics (and try out his new 'Stealth'). I'll be taking my bike up, so will undoubtedly get some odd looks as I rock up on a most-definitely-not-TT bike.
My brother's riding a 10 mile TT in Fife this Sunday. I'm going up to get some pics (and try out his new 'Stealth'). I'll be taking my bike up, so will undoubtedly get some odd looks as I rock up on a most-definitely-not-TT bike.
I ride my old Orbit track... It how you ride that counts.
Bl**dy hell! I am a disgrace. :-[
I took my fast audax bike to the last club TT and posted one of my worse times ever in 27'. The first and the last time I take a geared bike. I was never in the right gear/tempo and felt I was bouncing on the bike; maybe I am not used to it and of course I had no tri-bars etc. ? Okay I was a bit tired too <excuses, excuses...> and the course isn't that fast, but I was really surprised by that time.
Bl**dy hell! I am a disgrace. :-[
I took my fast audax bike to the last club TT and posted one of my worse times ever in 27'. The first and the last time I take a geared bike. I was never in the right gear/tempo and felt I was bouncing on the bike; maybe I am not used to it and of course I had no tri-bars etc. ? Okay I was a bit tired too <excuses, excuses...> and the course isn't that fast, but I was really surprised by that time.
Bl**dy hell! I am a disgrace. :-[
I took my fast audax bike to the last club TT and posted one of my worse times ever in 27'. The first and the last time I take a geared bike. I was never in the right gear/tempo and felt I was bouncing on the bike; maybe I am not used to it and of course I had no tri-bars etc. ? Okay I was a bit tired too <excuses, excuses...> and the course isn't that fast, but I was really surprised by that time.
So that is the tri bar minute down on your usual time on a bike that is race unfamiliar?
Sounds reasonable to me.
I've really enjoyed my 10s this year, although time pressure means I only rode 4 competitive ones! I race myself, with my trusted fixed and that's it! Sheer fun. 1h30 out dor to door, short if 40 Mi in total... Bring on next year I say!
04 September 2008
Lancaster Cycling Club 1st stage Hill Climb Champs
Condor Bottoms
1 Garham Atkinson 2:17.9
2 Patrick Chisholm 2:26.0
3 Simon Mumford (Lune RCC) 2:31.0
4 Graham Kennerley 2:38.0
5 Nic Bertrand (Lune RCC) 2:41.8
6 Ian Boyden 2:45.9
7 Graham Harcourt (BCW) 2:50.2
8 Paul Maxwell (Lakes RC) 2:55.8
9 Ian Harcourt (BCW) 2:58.1
10 Tim Rollinson 3:01.5
11 Phil Taylor 3:29.1
First Hill Climb at Conder Bottoms (http://lancastercc.co.uk/Courses/CBinfo.htm) (Lancaster). 2'41.8s over 0.6 miles. Shortest ride but the hardest ever. I am still coughing my lungs out 30' after the finish.Quote04 September 2008
Lancaster Cycling Club 1st stage Hill Climb Champs
Condor Bottoms
1 Garham Atkinson 2:17.9
2 Patrick Chisholm 2:26.0
3 Simon Mumford (Lune RCC) 2:31.0
4 Graham Kennerley 2:38.0
5 Nic Bertrand (Lune RCC) 2:41.8
6 Ian Boyden 2:45.9
7 Graham Harcourt (BCW) 2:50.2
8 Paul Maxwell (Lakes RC) 2:55.8
9 Ian Harcourt (BCW) 2:58.1
10 Tim Rollinson 3:01.5
11 Phil Taylor 3:29.1
Pictures taken by Robb Edge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shoei/sets/72157607111440726/)
Tis a very short hill - our local hill climbs tend to be in the 6-8 minute category.Very short indeed but terribly painful. No scope for pacing yourself at all on there. Next Thursday evening will see the Jubilee Tower hill climb. Between about 8-12' of pain and misery.
(club hill climb on Tuesday, I will do badly, but at least I will do)
..d
Let's say I wanted to find out how slow I was over a 10m TT course in Hampshire.
Can anyone tell me any official 10mile routes I can go to and have a try in my own time?
PS. I'm NOT cycling along the A303 like I see some folks doing. I'm afraid that's just too scary (although I may achieve a quick time if I'm embedded in the radiator grill of a 40 ton Slovakian Lorry)
Let's say I wanted to find out how slow I was over a 10m TT course in Hampshire.
Can anyone tell me any official 10mile routes I can go to and have a try in my own time?
PS. I'm NOT cycling along the A303 like I see some folks doing. I'm afraid that's just too scary (although I may achieve a quick time if I'm embedded in the radiator grill of a 40 ton Slovakian Lorry)
That's how the TT people go fast - lots of traffic and drag from lorries. It may be a motorway in all but name, but "it's a fast course".
A friend of mine, an ex-pro rider, refers to "voluntary euthanasia" courses!
That's how the TT people go fast - lots of traffic and drag from lorries...So road racers have always said; from my experience, lots of traffic does not equate to fast times, just lots of buffeting. Give me a still day on an empty road any time.
...the number of lorries on the route was directly related to increase on average speed...
That's how the TT people go fast - lots of traffic and drag from lorries. It may be a motorway in all but name, but "it's a fast course".
A friend of mine, an ex-pro rider, refers to "voluntary euthanasia" courses!
Date Dist Course Weather Time
25/6/08 10 UC182 v.windy 26.16
02/7/08 10 UC182 windy 25.22
09/7/08 10 UC182 wet&windy 24.50
16/7/08 10 UC182 dry 25.06
30/7/08 10 UC182 warm 24.41
06/8/08 10 UC182 dry 24.27
04/10/8 HC UH90 damp 3.06
26/12/8 10 UC101 clear 27.26
Really, do you have a link.To the data or the people who make them?
I just use my normal road bike - haven't got aero bars or TT rests or anything.Get some aero clip ons - that'll save you about 1minute per 10 miles
There was a bloke on a Kuota with no seat tube - I must look it up, I've never seen anything like it before.Yeah, there have been quite a few of them made, but they've never been particularly commercially viable because they aren't allowed for UCI events.
Our club's first open event of the year is on Sunday - 25 mile 'Hardriders'.
I had intended to enter this year, but have hardly trained for 2 months due to a virus.
Oh...
... and there's 3 " of snow on the circuit at the moment! :o :o :o
Really, do you have a link.To the data or the people who make them?
It's been so long that I can't work out what we were talking about!Sorry for late reply - the to the people who make them. Or just a name.Really, do you have a link.To the data or the people who make them?
The "like-a-disc" wheel covers.wheelbuilder.com is a site frequently recommended on another foum I use.
The "like-a-disc" wheel covers.
Well, I have some new tyres for the Fuji (Fortezza TriComp - should be worth a few seconds over the old Spesh tyres), so I'm doing this season's "10s" :o
84" fixed to start with, moving to a headbanging 90" when it gets warmer.
1:14:58- perfect! was that with or without waiting at the lights?
1:14:58- perfect! was that with or without waiting at the lights?
Without... :demon:
Liz did 1:27:26, which was absolutely amazing. She was well happy and is actually talking about the next one already.
That's time-trialling. I was back in bed with a book and a cup of tea by 10:15.
I see John Warnock is off to a good start, is he doing LEL ?
Damon.
Liz did 1:27:26
I did 1:14:58
Looking sleek there, Ian :thumbsup:
Looking sleek there, Ian :thumbsup:
Why thank-you Miss B.
I'm still getting used to the new bike. The old carcass ain't so supple no more.
I did a 3-up 10 yesterday. We were an utter shambles :(
I rode with a guy I rode a great 2-up 25 with a month ago, and another vet, who's usually a decent rider - I've seen him stay in a fast group on a long ride as I go out the back, many a time. If there's one thing he can do, is hold a wheel. I was keeping an eye on both on last Wednesday's club ride, and it was me who was struggling to stay with them. We dropped him in the first mile on Sunday, and I didn't feel like we were going hard. We quickly regrouped and he did a couple of short pulls while we did more work, and got to the turn together. 200 metres later he'd gone again. We sat up for a while, looking back, but he wasn't closing the gap, so we carried on half-heartedly, torn between waiting for our teammate and doing a respectable time. Then my remaining teammate's tribars came off in his hand... We sat up again while he stuffed the loose parts down the front of his skinsuit.
We eventually got back in a semi-respectable time, if we'd stayed together and hadn't sat up and dithered, we would have easily gone under 25 minutes. Dropping a teammate was wrong though, no point in doing a contre la montre equipe if you can't ride together.
Total fail tonight.
Tried to phone the organiser at 9am to reserve a start slot (optional and not normally required) but he didn't answer. Was in a meeting all day. Drove out to the start to sign on and was 36th in line...entry closed at 35 riders >:(
First ever 25 for me today - 1.01.28. Winner did a 54.06. Could have gone faster, but didn't want to blow up before the end.
I did, however, get the fastest time in my category and so won my entry fee back + £3. I suspect that I was in the wrong category though as I was fastest in mine, the one above and the one above that. I think I was only 10 secs off winning the 2nd from top one!
Nice one, that's a respectable time as it is but it sounds like a sub-hour is on!
E15/27 (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=9887837648449888778,51.950880,0.038580%3B2045053392959494382,51.972610,0.155440%3B2620754978779259915,51.989150,0.156890%3B2534802125457689593,52.006662,0.170831%3B14698274274819251777,52.007396,0.136473%3B18310813185359960607,52.019980,0.134820%3B6984641087324386070,52.030629,0.067402%3B11535477968435316556,52.009620,0.025950%3B13016219430209218821,52.022760,0.054090%3B11999486708409402899,52.003490,0.086380%3B15836111124963884937,51.967423,0.090703%3B6577649830145482166,51.958092,0.084345&saddr=B1038+%4051.950880,+0.038580&daddr=B1038%2FClatterbury+Ln+%4051.972610,+0.155440+to:Unknown+road+%4051.989150,+0.156890+to:B1039%2FRoyston+Rd+%4052.006662,+0.170831+to:Unknown+road+%4052.007396,+0.136473+to:Cogmore+%4052.019980,+0.134820+to:B1039%2FBarley+Rd+%4052.030629,+0.067402+to:B1368%2FBarkway+Hill+%4052.009620,+0.025950+to:Bogmoor+Rd+%4052.022760,+0.054090+to:Unknown+road+%4052.003490,+0.086380+to:Unknown+road+%4051.967423,+0.090703+to:Unknown+road+%4051.958092,+0.084345+to:51.951248,0.037251&mra=mi&mrcr=11&mrsp=12&sz=13&sll=51.962356,0.073986&sspn=0.049925,0.099392&ie=UTF8&ll=51.990589,0.094414&spn=0.146087,0.30899&z=12)
Antelope RT 50km 3up Team Time Trial this Saturday!
E15/27 (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=9887837648449888778,51.950880,0.038580%3B2045053392959494382,51.972610,0.155440%3B2620754978779259915,51.989150,0.156890%3B2534802125457689593,52.006662,0.170831%3B14698274274819251777,52.007396,0.136473%3B18310813185359960607,52.019980,0.134820%3B6984641087324386070,52.030629,0.067402%3B11535477968435316556,52.009620,0.025950%3B13016219430209218821,52.022760,0.054090%3B11999486708409402899,52.003490,0.086380%3B15836111124963884937,51.967423,0.090703%3B6577649830145482166,51.958092,0.084345&saddr=B1038+%4051.950880,+0.038580&daddr=B1038%2FClatterbury+Ln+%4051.972610,+0.155440+to:Unknown+road+%4051.989150,+0.156890+to:B1039%2FRoyston+Rd+%4052.006662,+0.170831+to:Unknown+road+%4052.007396,+0.136473+to:Cogmore+%4052.019980,+0.134820+to:B1039%2FBarley+Rd+%4052.030629,+0.067402+to:B1368%2FBarkway+Hill+%4052.009620,+0.025950+to:Bogmoor+Rd+%4052.022760,+0.054090+to:Unknown+road+%4052.003490,+0.086380+to:Unknown+road+%4051.967423,+0.090703+to:Unknown+road+%4051.958092,+0.084345+to:51.951248,0.037251&mra=mi&mrcr=11&mrsp=12&sz=13&sll=51.962356,0.073986&sspn=0.049925,0.099392&ie=UTF8&ll=51.990589,0.094414&spn=0.146087,0.30899&z=12)goes within 1/2 mile of my front door - you should have popped in for a cup of tea on the way past!!
Antelope RT 50km 3up Team Time Trial this Saturday!I entered that a couple of years back, it's a good event. I liked the course (although I don't know what it's like when there's a breeze blowing). Meant to try and get a team together to do it this year but didn't get round to it.
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Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
Rode in the Antelope RT 50km 3up Team Time Trial on Saturday, and I liked it! We did it in 1 hour 20 minutes something - and could have been quicker had one of our guys not crashed! He clipped my back wheel at the top of a hill and fell in the road. Got a bloody knee and a few other grazes, but not too badly hurt, the bike was OK and after a minute or so we got going again - a bit gingerly at first but soon got back up to pace.
I lifted this from the official photographer's website: (me at the back)
(http://www.sarahbrookephotography.co.uk/imgs/gallerylarge/1602_99560786249eb78bcac17c.jpg)
Date Dist Course Weather Time
25/6/08 10 UC182 v.windy 26.16
02/7/08 10 UC182 windy 25.22
09/7/08 10 UC182 wet&windy 24.50
16/7/08 10 UC182 dry 25.06
30/7/08 10 UC182 warm 24.41
06/8/08 10 UC182 dry 24.27
04/10/8 HC UH90 damp 3.06
26/12/8 10 UC101 clear 27.26
15/4/09 10 UC186 damp 24:53
22/4/09 10 UC186 dry 25:04
Not bad for me tonight - first proper TT for 3 years. 24.59 (10 mile) including a 7 second stop at a roundabout. Not the fastest course, although our club superman did 21.27. 12th out of 32. Happy :thumbsup:
Result (http://www.pwresults.pipeten.co.uk/ResultInd.aspx?EventId=442&SubEventID=1)
10 Mi course, rather cold, a bit breezy, but I managed a 26:33 on a 48x16. There are margins. I just need to train a bit!
I don't have, yet, the others' results.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
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Date | Course | Distance | Time | Place/total no. of riders | Winner's time |
29/4/09 | P402c | 10 miles | 25.06 | 13/36 | 21.27 |
22/4/09 | P402c | 10 miles | 24.59 | 12/32 | 21.38 |
First finish of the season on wednesday night, and the results are just out. Quite pleased with the mid-table respectability, given I'm still not used to the strange position yet.
29/4/09 / rolling e33/13 / sunny, 10mph wind / 12.8 miles / 35.49 (av. 21.4mph)
- did you use your powertap on Weds?
Neil
- did you use your powertap on Weds?
Neil
that *was* you, wasnt it? in the silver helmet, setting off about 12 or 13? Nice time... :)
yep, had the powertap on. My 2 x 20s on the road bike are at about 220 - 330W average, but on the TT bike on thursday I averaged 300. I wasnt feeling 100% so that might account for some of it, but I was surprised how far off I was.
I'll try the 2 x 20s on the TT bike on Monday so I get more used to it.
Fun, isnt it?
Sunday's 25 was 1:23:10. Beautiful sunshine but a nasty headwind on one section.
Not brilliant but 4 minutes faster than my last 25, and not last either. Being a slowcoach means I can only get faster :thumbsup:
It's "Retro" night tomorrow for DPCC; "road bikes", no disks, tri-bars, pointy hats. I should be thrilled, but instead I may boycott due to their insistence that carbon is allowed.
(Without carbon, half the club would be forced to wheel out their MTBs and/or daughter's bikes - I might have stood half a chance...)
It's "Retro" night tomorrow for DPCC; "road bikes", no disks, tri-bars, pointy hats. I should be thrilled, but instead I may boycott due to their insistence that carbon is allowed.
(Without carbon, half the club would be forced to wheel out their MTBs and/or daughter's bikes - I might have stood half a chance...)
Without carbon you would have no steel either.
..d
It's "Retro" night tomorrow for DPCC; "road bikes", no disks, tri-bars, pointy hats. I should be thrilled, but instead I may boycott due to their insistence that carbon is allowed.
I never said I'd be riding a steel bike.It's "Retro" night tomorrow for DPCC; "road bikes", no disks, tri-bars, pointy hats. I should be thrilled, but instead I may boycott due to their insistence that carbon is allowed.
(Without carbon, half the club would be forced to wheel out their MTBs and/or daughter's bikes - I might have stood half a chance...)
Without carbon you would have no steel either.
..d
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 88" gear
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20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 88"gear
Could have been just under 26 minutes I was blocked by a car for ten seconds waiting to turn right, winner did a 21.15 Gary Birch VC Elan
Nearly killed myself tonight.
...looking for a place to get off and lie down...
26:47, six seconds off my ancient PB. But it could have been 26:00 so easily.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 88"gear
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Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 88"gear
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30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 88" gear
Bah, can't get the tables working.
Date Distance Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden Time
29/04/09 10 miles Hale Village Clear Mod West Wind 79" Harry Quinn 25m53s
29/4/09 10 miles Hale Village Warm Light East Wind 79" Harry Quinn 25m14s
That was a 25.05 (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3595063822_789055eab5.jpg?v=0). Not brilliant given that the winner was a 22 something. It's not the fastest course. My excuse is that i was still tired after a weekend of little sleep running my 600 (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2362.msg350208#msg350208). I've got to beat 25 next week, or else...
I wonder where the false nose came from...
...Ian - you look faster than when I've met you :)
And Ian H and I are the only two people in Britain still racing without h*lm*ts
...And Ian H and I are the only two people in Britain still racing without h*lm*ts ;D
I don't race in a helmet either :D
Ah, I see. I thought that shiny dome was a helmet.
A disc wheel would make a lot more difference....And Ian H and I are the only two people in Britain still racing without h*lm*ts ;D
Our club coach keeps telling me I'd go faster if I wore a pointy one.
A disc wheel would make a lot more difference....And Ian H and I are the only two people in Britain still racing without h*lm*ts ;D
Our club coach keeps telling me I'd go faster if I wore a pointy one.
I don't race in a helmet either :D
A disc wheel would make a lot more difference....And Ian H and I are the only two people in Britain still racing without h*lm*ts ;D
Our club coach keeps telling me I'd go faster if I wore a pointy one.
A disc wheel would make a lot more difference....And Ian H and I are the only two people in Britain still racing without h*lm*ts ;D
Our club coach keeps telling me I'd go faster if I wore a pointy one.
Not a LOT more and it would depend on the course.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 88"gear
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30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 88" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
Just realised tonight I have been on an 83" gear most of this year must have put the wheel in the wrong way round after a tyre change ::-)
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind to turn Graham Weigh 83" gear
I have 3 timers plus a radio controlled clock running for timing the Mersey Nat Champs 24hr..I learned my lesson many years ago in a club event when 2 watches stopped whilst riding from start to finish.I also set my wristwatch chronograph to the same time.
I have 3 timers plus a radio controlled clock running for timing the Mersey Nat Champs 24hr..I learned my lesson many years ago in a club event when 2 watches stopped whilst riding from start to finish.I also set my wristwatch chronograph to the same time.
Our club's just bought some newfangled digital watches with printout facility.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.04 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
...You don't say whther Tri-bars on both?
Tonight I used a heavy steel roadbike ...
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
http://www.cycleclub-bexley.org.uk/Evening_10_results_09.html#24Jun (http://www.cycleclub-bexley.org.uk/Evening_10_results_09.html#24Jun)
...You don't say whther Tri-bars on both?
Tonight I used a heavy steel roadbike ...
Seems a bit snobby.
With the increasing number of alternative rides to TT's and lack of new blood coming in it could die a slow death if it doesn't shape up.
Turned up for a replay of last week's attempt to be told I couldn't ride "because you are not a club member"
A discussion ensued as to why other clubs,ie last weeks organising club could do temp.membership for insurance purposes(a la Audax rides) & tonight's officiating club could not,without a satisfactory explaination from the marshalls. ::-)
I was told I could ride if I joined the club & declined.
My lbs sponsors this lot & I have a need to go into the shop on Friday.I doubt that they will be seeing the colour of my money.
All things considered I feel increasingly >:( at this exclusive attitude.Little wonder that some clubs are heard to express concern regarding diminishing membership.
Seems to be "my-way-or-no-way."
Again, must depend on where you ride and with which club...
BTW, how much are we talking about here? Is it worth joining the club to do the TTs or a personal membership of CTT if such a thing exists?
Cheaper to join us. Since it doesn't matter which club you're in ;D
very friendy and welcoming.
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very friendy and welcoming.
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Last night's experience reinforced my belief* that the most local club to me don't do "welcoming" & are strangers to the social concept of "friendly".
As I said,at least one other club are different .
* Some few years ago I attended the weekly club night.It rapidly became clear that this is a racer's club.Other types seem to be second class citizens.The guy who organises touring-type stuff within the club was,apparently, absent more often than not.
Consult the CTT's list of affiliated clubs (http://www.ctt.org.uk/Clubs/tabid/118/Default.aspx) if you want to compete. There's generally a choice of clubs in any locality - you don't have to join the nearest.Thanks for that:very usefull.
Consult the CTT's list of affiliated clubs (http://www.ctt.org.uk/Clubs/tabid/118/Default.aspx) if you want to compete. There's generally a choice of clubs in any locality - you don't have to join the nearest.Thanks for that:very usefull.
I realise that membership of any affiliated club would suffice, but......
why can I not try 2 or 3 sessions before I commit to joining a club?...that's the crux of the issue.
Most other clubs of other sports/past-times allow it.
why can I not try 2 or 3 sessions before I commit to joining a club?...that's the crux of the issue.
Most other clubs of other sports/past-times allow it.
Consult the CTT's list of affiliated clubs (http://www.ctt.org.uk/Clubs/tabid/118/Default.aspx) if you want to compete. There's generally a choice of clubs in any locality - you don't have to join the nearest.Thanks for that:very usefull.
I realise that membership of any affiliated club would suffice, but......
why can I not try 2 or 3 sessions before I commit to joining a club?...that's the crux of the issue.
Most other clubs of other sports/past-times allow it.
How many free goes exactly do you think you should be entitled to? I imagine it takes a fair bit of effort and commitment by volunteers to put on these events. Clubs don't have much money and it seems fair to spend a small amount of money on membership to take part in club events.
Again, must depend on where you ride and with which club...
Equally,I don't have much money & wish to be certain that I would continue TT-ing before I throw £70-ish at some aero bars.
Moreover I don't feel entitled to any free rides.I did make the point that I paid the ride fee plus a little more for temp. insurance. the previous week when a different club were marshalling the event.
I don't believe the CTT deals in temporary insurance.
Join the Clarion! ;)
Equally,I don't have much money & wish to be certain that I would continue TT-ing before I throw £70-ish at some aero bars.
Moreover I don't feel entitled to any free rides.I did make the point that I paid the ride fee plus a little more for temp. insurance. the previous week when a different club were marshalling the event.
Many of our riders don't use dedicated TT bikes. As for temp insurance, I suspect the club is on dodgy ground there. I don't believe the CTT deals in temporary insurance.
why can I not try 2 or 3 sessions before I commit to joining a club?...that's the crux of the issue.You can. Look through the listings of club timetrials (not opens) by the local clubs. If you find "Come and try it" events you are in luck. These are specially nominated events to try to attract the general public and other non-club riders to give time trialling a go. They are usually over short distances, sometimes even less than 10 miles, because they are for the general population.
Most other clubs of other sports/past-times allow it.
Equally,I don't have much money & wish to be certain that I would continue TT-ing before I throw £70-ish at some aero bars.
Moreover I don't feel entitled to any free rides.I did make the point that I paid the ride fee plus a little more for temp. insurance. the previous week when a different club were marshalling the event.
Also, just checking, but do you have carbon bars?
Also, just checking, but do you have carbon bars?
No
That's good - carbon bars and clip-ons don't play nicely together!Also, just checking, but do you have carbon bars?No
Have entered the Clubs Open 10 TT event next Saturday on the U7b !
As long as I can beat my Vets standard time (25:54) I will be happy ;)
1.01.15 this morning. What are the chances of under the hour this season, I wonder.
While reading the website of the club who would not allow me to ride their TT the other night I see that it states..
"day membership is available" relating to TT-ing.
I have sent an e-mail to the club's Time Trialing secretary via the link therein advising him of the events of the other night asking him to clarify the club's policy because of the confusion arising from the content of the website.
I look forward to a reply,the content of which will influence my thinking with regard to pursueing any more TT-ing.
1.01.15 this morning. What are the chances of under the hour this season, I wonder.
Just find a fast course/motorway and keep entering until you get a float night.
I'd spend much more time travelling to and fro than actually riding them. I might see what's on later in August once I've got the long one out of the way.
I think he might be going for a PB on a 1400. Here's hoping for 4 float nights!
New lifetime PB for me last night of
24.26.
Does anyone know if the course records are available for the less ... err 'popular' courses?
(here's one to test you; CC241)
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
Q25/20 Harrietsham Climb 381m / descent 428m = diff 47mElevation profile for the 25 on this course here:
If you've ridden any distance you'll perhaps have gained an idea of how hard you can go without blowing up. Some folk rely on a heart monitor to tell them, but I find I can do it without. I can feel what's sustainable by how much my legs hurt and how hard my breathing is. The trick is to stay just below the threshold - slowing down on the ups, and not easing off on the downs.
Anyone got any advice on how I should pace myself on the 50?
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
If you've ridden any distance you'll perhaps have gained an idea of how hard you can go without blowing up. Some folk rely on a heart monitor to tell them, but I find I can do it without. I can feel what's sustainable by how much my legs hurt and how hard my breathing is. The trick is to stay just below the threshold - slowing down on the ups, and not easing off on the downs.
Paul Manning rode the Duo Normande with Chris Boardman. He reported that Boardman din't go up hill that fast, but therefore had enough in the tank to absolutely blitz the downhill and flat bits.
They broke the course record!
I guess falling and sliding at speed is no worse than a fall at walking pace.
GWS.
Well done on walking back to warn others. Diesel is evil.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
GWS.
Well done on walking back to warn others. Diesel is evil.
Diesel is the Devils piss
Did a 24.26 last night on the Harrietsham course (you can tell I'm not a TTer as I have no idea about the code).
In my defence, it was on the road bike!
...you can tell I'm not a TTer as I have no idea about the code)...
* Which exactly equals my pb this year.
Must try a 25 now - this TT thing could be addictive!I'd keep quiet about that if I were you. I've done my duty as Himself's ;) Mersey Roads 24hr tandem partner. It's somebody else's turn next year. :demon:
Think how fast he'd go with proper training... :-PDid a 24.26 last night on the Harrietsham course (you can tell I'm not a TTer as I have no idea about the code).
In my defence, it was on the road bike!
Q10/22 I think ;D
Oh yeah, I was riding the road bike, box section wheels, saddle bag, rear lights etc. I even wore a regular helmet.
And if you want to see how it should be done, the mighty Andy Wilkinson has, earlier today, done the first 100 in the National 12 hour championship in 3.45.30 :o
And he did - 302 miles, comp record.
Which is 30 consecutive 24 minute 10s. :o :o
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
I did my first ever TT this evening. Andover Wheelers 8.5mile.So 27:30-ish. I think this excludes you from the back-of-the-Audax-pack club (just in case you had thoughts of rejoining it).
Actually I just barged in without registering. I rode what I thought was the route this lunchtime in 25:29 and then did 23:22 this evening
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
Still provisional David McCann,Phoenix CC (Ireland) 45m 54s on a course in S.Wales.
That's about 33mph.Still provisional David McCann,Phoenix CC (Ireland) 45m 54s on a course in S.Wales.
For people that don't know, the old record was held by Chris Boardman and had stood since May 1993.
Neil
Still provisional David McCann,Phoenix CC (Ireland) 45m 54s on a course in S.Wales.
That's about 33mph.Still provisional David McCann,Phoenix CC (Ireland) 45m 54s on a course in S.Wales.
For people that don't know, the old record was held by Chris Boardman and had stood since May 1993.
Neil
I think Boardman's hour record (not sure of the date) was/is about 35mph. On an indoor track.
I was just surprised at how close the road record speed was to the (vaguely similar) track record. (Since that post I've found out by how little McCann broke the record - just 3 secs!)That's about 33mph.Still provisional David McCann,Phoenix CC (Ireland) 45m 54s on a course in S.Wales.
For people that don't know, the old record was held by Chris Boardman and had stood since May 1993.
Neil
I think Boardman's hour record (not sure of the date) was/is about 35mph. On an indoor track.
No, competition record must be on an approved road course. This also excludes multiple circuits of a course in most cases.
So I guess a very fast road course is very nearly as quick as riding indoors.
It's a bit of a piss-take having a Bike Blenheim Day, after the fuss His Bloody Grace made about cyclecampers at the C&CC NFOL this summer. >:(
He didn't do badly out of having the NFOL onsite...
Anybody here entered the Blenheim Palace TT on the 4th October ?
Part of their Bike Blenheim Day, also includes the Brompton Worlds.
First TT of the season tomorrow. Severn RC 25 mile on the U17
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/U17-25-mile-time-trial-course335629 (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/U17-25-mile-time-trial-course335629)
Competing in the 2 UP with a fellow club member, should be fun as neither of us have ever ridden a 25m TT or a 2 UP before !
Forecast doesn't look too good - sleet !
Rode my first TT in the WTTA Hardriders Series last Sunday.
On course U601 Sporting 23. A lovely morning with clear skies and only a slight breeze !
I rode it in 1 hr 8 mins 54 secs !!! Winning time was 53 mins !
Rode my first TT in the WTTA Hardriders Series last Sunday.
On course U601 Sporting 23. A lovely morning with clear skies and only a slight breeze !
I rode it in 1 hr 8 mins 54 secs !!! Winning time was 53 mins !
Are you doing the Rudy Project on Sunday? I'm off at 10:41
I rode it in 1 hr 8 mins 54 secs !!! Winning time was 53 mins !
Rode my first TT in the WTTA Hardriders Series last Sunday.
On course U601 Sporting 23. A lovely morning with clear skies and only a slight breeze !
I rode it in 1 hr 8 mins 54 secs !!! Winning time was 53 mins !
Are you doing the Rudy Project on Sunday? I'm off at 10:41
No, but have entered the WTTA 29 miler U87 from Sutton Benger on Easter Sunday :o
Good luck to you for this week ;)
Just filled in the entry form for my first ever 25 - 'tis the Mackie Tankard organised by Fife Century CC. A week on Sunday and I'm not feeling at peak fitness, but I've got a new TT bike so I want to ride an event to see if I can get my position right.
I'm a bit hacked off with the British Cycling website - tons of info and calendars of events, but nowhere can I find an entry form or instruction on how to fill it in. No doubt it's obvious when you've done it a few times but it's pretty off-putting for a newbie.
5 Mile:
08/04/09 14:38 20.50mph Cleish
10 Mile:
15/04/09 28.58 20.71 mph Fruchie FI-7 (11sec off PB)
22/04/09 28:42 20.90 mph Cleish
A pair of clip on tri bars later:
29/04/09 27.19 21.96 mph Fruchie
03/06/09 27.40 21.68 mph Cleish
15/07/09 26.59 22.24 mph Cleish
22/07/09 26.57 22.26 mph Fruchie 10 PB!
25 Mile:
08/07/09 1:15:06 19.97 mph Fruchie
May I critique? If the course was lumpy, your race HRM looks pretty consistent (168-180-ish?). There's no point trying to sit bang on your "optimum" if the gradient (or wind) is varying. Pretty close is pretty good.
HRM trace. Click for notes.
Event Organiser Support (http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/SCU/tt/sc_time_trial_event_organiser_support.asp)David, thanks for the link...yes, event organiser support, just where I'd expect to find an entry form ! (Down south we used to complain about the stealth and obscurity of the RTTC but the SCU surpass them by an order of magnitude...)
The individual entry form should do. Some of it depends on the event. Fife midweeks - sign on on the line. Local opens - just tell the organiser whn you see him/her on the club run.
Event Organiser Support (http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/SCU/tt/sc_time_trial_event_organiser_support.asp)David, thanks for the link...yes, event organiser support, just where I'd expect to find an entry form ! (Down south we used to complain about the stealth and obscurity of the RTTC but the SCU surpass them by an order of magnitude...)
The individual entry form should do. Some of it depends on the event. Fife midweeks - sign on on the line. Local opens - just tell the organiser whn you see him/her on the club run.
Didn't help that my brand new Polar HRM/Cycle Computer wasn't getting a definite pick-up from the magnet so that my speed was constantly varying between 0 and my actual speed.If using an HRM, i have no idea why you would pay attention to a speedo - maybe it's just me!
First outdoor ride that I've ever done with a HRM on, which I found interesting. I was pretty steady around 173BPM for the whole time, which is higher than my normal peak on the turbo! I usually ride indoors with a peak of 165. I think I need to push myself harder on the turbo, if I can do 173 for an hour then what should I be aiming for on say a 2 * 20?
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/09/09 25/1:09:50 G25/89 rolling, damp Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
These events are getting popular - 8 riders turned away leaving a full field of 45. Priority given to club riders so a good idea to turn up early.
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My club has instituted a pre-booking system - which suits me, after being turned away last year. It's great they are so popular, but i'd like to know that I'm going to get a ride if I turn up.
You are with ABC? RG was third or fourth tonight.
Would ABC be interested in starting a tayside league along similar lines to the fife one? We'd have to identify a few suitable courses but I'd be much keener to have events I could ride to rather than driving across Fife to not get a ride. There would be interest from the North Fifers as well.
..d
If I hadn't got stuck behind a car when it pulled over, I'd have saved another 20 seconds too.Us real testers never get stuck behind anything. Are you man or mouse?
Our Catford CC open 10TT today nice day just didn't have the legs, even got a bit dizzy at the turn with the effort but it wasn't getting to my legs.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/09/09 25/1:09:50 G25/89 rolling, damp Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
11/04/10 9.5mls/28:07 QS/30 Hilly/cold Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
OT:
We REALLY must start a compulsory-help-at-one-club-event-rule. There are too many soft touches in the club ...
Our Catford CC open 10TT today nice day just didn't have the legs, even got a bit dizzy at the turn with the effort but it wasn't getting to my legs.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/09/09 25/1:09:50 G25/89 rolling, damp Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
11/04/10 9.5mls/28:07 QS/30 Hilly/cold Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
24/04/10 10mls/26.42 Q10/19 flat with a drag dry/mild Graham Weigh 88" gear
Is 40 seconds worth £1000?!
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/09/09 25/1:09:50 G25/89 rolling, damp Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
11/04/10 9.5mls/28:07 QS/30 Hilly/cold Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
24/04/10 10mls/25.47 Q10/19 flat with a drag dry/mild Graham Weigh 88" gear
First TT ever this evening, out with Farnborough & Camberley Cycling Club (who I'm considering joining). I had no idea how well I'd do; I'm still stiff from riding 965km at the weekend (riding to/from the BCM). I took the Audax MK3, but did take off the Carradice and put a little saddle pack on that was just big enough for a tube, levers and basic tools. Otherwise the bike was as I ride on Audaxes, so tribars, mudguards, 28mm tyres, SON hub and lights, rear rack, frame pump etc.I do laugh at stories like this:
I was the only one on a steel bike, the only one with mudguards, the only one with a rack, the only one with dynamo lights. I got some envious glances from those who cannot afford such luxuries, I can tell you!
Anyway, I was aiming for better than 30 minutes. Had a nice 10km ride out there (met a lovely lady triathlete who was out for an easy spin) as warm up.
CC175 10 miles 25:10
I do laugh at stories like this:
"I beat my target by nearly 5 minutes" Not great at picking targets, are we ;)
Still, you're way quicker than me (but I guessed that). Rode the Audax bike last night just for convenience (no tribars, 25mm tyres, rack pack lights, etc). 27:21, just 14s off my PB (on the Bianchi, July 08). That's with a 46x13 top (which I may not have used).
It were very quick conditions last night - you'll do well to go much faster next week, but at least you've got a target now :)
25:38 for a medium gear 10, last night. 70" (48x18) - this (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17.msg626629#msg626629).Chapeau for spinning that, a respectable time for a less than medium gear
Thanks! Was resisting the bounce on a few fast sections ;)
Did 59:41 on the Essex Roads E22/24 (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/E22-24) yesterday (TT bike - not the 70" fixer!). Beautiful morning for it.
Clarion - find a local club running evening 10's, turn up on your Woodrup Giro and just have a go. Whatever time you do is not really important, but do go back again and see if you can better your previous time, or try a different bike and see if it's any quicker. You'll be a racing snake before you know it. :P
Thanks! Was resisting the bounce on a few fast sections ;)
Did 59:41 on the Essex Roads E22/24 (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/E22-24) yesterday (TT bike - not the 70" fixer!). Beautiful morning for it.
Clarion - find a local club running evening 10's, turn up on your Woodrup Giro and just have a go. Whatever time you do is not really important, but do go back again and see if you can better your previous time, or try a different bike and see if it's any quicker. You'll be a racing snake before you know it. :P
Thanks for the encouragement. The Giro's the only bike that I could turn up with that wouldn't cause major sniggering. ;D I figure it's a race against myself, so I'd want to go back & see how (if) I could improve. Racing snake? Never. Faster than I am now? Possibly ;)
Your times are pretty impressive. I'll try not to let that put me off.
I suspect that the lad can beat me already. But I can live with that.
So, do I just find out when they're riding & turn up, or do I have to be a member, or have a licence or whatnot?
You've got that pretty much back to front.
If it is an open event then you might be able to just turn up. Some are Entry on the Line only.
If it is a club (confined) event then you will need to be a member.
You will probably need to either have British Cycling Silver membership, be a member of a RTTC affiliated club, or pay a day license fee.
You've got that pretty much back to front.
If it is an open event then you might be able to just turn up. Some are Entry on the Line only.
If it is a club (confined) event then you will need to be a member.
You will probably need to either have British Cycling Silver membership, be a member of a RTTC affiliated club, or pay a day license fee.
The Giro's the only bike that I could turn up with that wouldn't cause major sniggering.
My first time-trial tonight. 28:53 on my Audax bike complete with mudguards and a rackpack and no tri-bars. I'm not displeased with that. I wasn't last!
More pleasing was that the club seemed like a really nice friendly bunch (Didcot Phoenix). I think I might have another go sometime soon... :thumbsup:
A completely indifferent 25.32 on Wednesday. Legs like lead and a profound disinclination to really try. An off-day.
Now you are really trying to piss me off for being so damned slow....
A completely indifferent 25.32 on Wednesday. Legs like lead and a profound disinclination to really try. An off-day.
Now you are really trying to piss me off for being so damned slow....
Now you are really trying to piss me off for being so damned slow....
Oh dear. Sorry.
A PB for me last night on the club 10 (9.65 actually (http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-kingdom/writtle/629126365971998107)).What is it with your club?
My first time-trial tonight. 28:53 on my Audax bike complete with mudguards and a rackpack and no tri-bars. I'm not displeased with that. I wasn't last!
More pleasing was that the club seemed like a really nice friendly bunch (Didcot Phoenix). I think I might have another go sometime soon... :thumbsup:
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/09/09 25/1:09:50 G25/89 rolling, damp Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
11/04/10 9.5mls/28:07 QS/30 Hilly/cold Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
24/04/10 10mls/25.47 Q10/19 flat with a drag dry/mild Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/05/10 10mls/26.14 Q10/26 cool/ breeze Graham Weigh 88" gear
And won the Tandem Club section! 26: 13. Gobsmacked.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/09/09 25/1:09:50 G25/89 rolling, damp Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
11/04/10 9.5mls/28:07 QS/30 Hilly/cold Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
24/04/10 10mls/25.47 Q10/19 flat with a drag dry/mild Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/05/10 10mls/26.14 Q10/26 cool/ breeze Graham Weigh 88" gear
26/05/10 10mls/25.51 Q10/26 cool breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
02/06/10 10mls/24.58 Q10/26 warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
15/06/10 10mls/25.50 Q10/29 flat warm/windy Graham Weigh 90" fixed
17/06/10 10mls/25.15 Q10/29 Flat warm/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
23/06/10 10mls/25.32 Q10/26 Rolling warm/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
07/07/10 10mls/24:53 Q10/26 Rolling warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
14/07/10 10mls/25:44 Q10/26 rolling/cool/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" fixed
15/07/10 9.5mls/27:33 QS/30 Hilly breezy Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
18/07/10 23.4mls/1:05:41 Q25/20 modified hilly Graham Weigh 90" fixed
21/07/10 10mls/25:14 Q10/26 hilly breezy Raleigh Banana 94" fixed
28/07/10 10mls/25:12 Q10/26 hilly/breezy Raleigh Banana 94" fixed
11/08/10 10mls/24:56 Q10/26 Hilly/calm Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
15/08/10 50mls/2h:22m:25sec Q50/1 hilly/windy Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
05/09/10 12hour/190.03mls Q12/1 rolling/windy Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
26/09/10 25mls/1:08:38 G25/53 Cold/windy brake rubbing Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
09/04/11 10mls/24;38 Q10/19 cool no wind Raleigh Banana 85" fixed Personal Best
02/06/10 10mls/24.58 Q10/26 warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
04/05/11 10mls/27:12 Q10/26 slight breeze Holdsworth Typhoon 72" gear
11/05/11 10mls/26:04 Q10/26 warm Holdsworth Typhoon 84" gear
25/05/11 10mls/25:48 Q10/26 warm Holdsworth Typhoon 84" gear
31/05/11 10mls/25:06 Q10/24 warm/ windy Raleigh Team Professional 84" gear
01/06/11 10mls/25:08 Q10/26 cool Raleigh Team Professional 84" gear
07/06/11 10mls/25:54 Q10/24 windy Raleigh Team Proffesional 84" gear
03/07/11 25mls/1:03:20 Q25/10 warm Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
13/07/11 10.4mls/31:21 QS/30 warm/hilly Unknown 531C tourer 73" gear
19/07/11 10mls/24:42 Q10/24 cool/slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
24/07/11 10mls/24:36 warm/slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
27/07/11 10mls/24:20 slight breeze Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
02/08/11 10mls/23:58 Q10/24 slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" fixed gear
14/08/11 50mls/2:23:17 Q50/1 hilly Raleigh Team Proffessional 86" fixed gear
16/08/11 10mls/24:32 Q10/24/ Windy to turn Raleigh Team Professional 97" fixed
18/08/11 9.5mls/27:57 Q30S/very windy & raining & hilly Raleigh Team Professional 84" fixed
A quick question on entering an English TT. I've just joined the vets and I'm looking at a CTT entry form for the first time. There's a box for "Member of VTTA Group" which I presume I fill in with "Scotland" but there's no space for my VTTA membership number. Is it just not required?
A quick question on entering an English TT. I've just joined the vets and I'm looking at a CTT entry form for the first time. There's a box for "Member of VTTA Group" which I presume I fill in with "Scotland" but there's no space for my VTTA membership number. Is it just not required?
No. They just need the name of your CTT affiliated club.
First TT in 2 years tonight. Fast course (F2A/10), but I was on a road bike. No official time yet, but my computer tells me I rode 24:38 for a 24.4 mph average speed. Pleased with that! :)
First TT in 2 years tonight. Fast course (F2A/10), but I was on a road bike. No official time yet, but my computer tells me I rode 24:38 for a 24.4 mph average speed. Pleased with that! :)I've only just realised that there is a 'magic number' for 10 miles:
Based on 22'27 for 10, 59'50 for 25 and 2h03 for 50, all on 'sporting' Sussex courses, what do peope think is a reasonable target for a flattish 12?If you had some 'flat' course times, then i'd go look at the 10/25/50 PBs of riders who rode the Icknield 12 last year.
I did my first official club 10 on Thursday. Results are here (http://discussion.cliftoncc.org/viewtopic.php?t=3038), my time was 26:11. Sadly it's the last run of the year on that course, so I'll have to wait until 2011 to get my time under 26 mins.
Breckland 12H on Sunday - it's weeks since I've TTed, so hopefully this will just seem much shorter than an Audax! Wave if you're on the A11 ...
Breckland 12H on Sunday - it's weeks since I've TTed, so hopefully this will just seem much shorter than an Audax! Wave if you're on the A11 ...
Good luck. How close can you get to 300?
Kent CA Open 50, Sunday 15th August 2010
The weather was very unkind to the riders that entered the KCA 50 held on the Q50/1 (A20 Leeds - Ashford twice) course with the strong cross wind taking its toll on the riders. This was evident in the times being returned with only the event winner J White (Cycle Premier) beating the 2 hours with a time of 1.55.54. The silver medal for second place went to Bec CC’s K Coffey who returned a 2.01.58 with B Phillips (East Grinstead CC) taking the Bronze with a time of 2.02.27.
The team award went to the Catford CC trio of Steve Airey (2.22.25), P Smith (2.14.31) and P Hayes (2.30.14) giving them a total time of 7.07.10, a fitting result as the Catford CC used this event as their club championship.
Phil Bull (VC Elan) took the Gilt Medal for the first vet on age standard with a plus of 28.41 beating Rye & District Wheelers rider Bob Giles (+28.34) into silver place by just 7 seconds. Alan Brown (West Kent RC) took the Bronze Medal with a plus of 28.34.
The Gilt Medal for the fastest lady went to A Shuttleworth (Chelmer CC) with a time of 2.23.29 with S Cater (Farnborough & District) taking the silver with a 2.25.13. Sally Smith (Medway Velo) took the Bronze with time of 2.41.39.
As another example of the difficulty the course was causing on the day only one rider qualified for the best improvement award. This was won by A Halliday (Westerly CC) who had an improvement of 1 min 44 sec.
Oh no David. You've just reminded me that the end of regular TTs means the start of hill climbs. :'(
If only the hill climbs here were 120 m over 2.5 km. At least they are on Sundays so we can have second breakfast at Pete's Eats in Llanberis on the way home :thumbsup:
If only the hill climbs here were 120 m over 2.5 km.
If only the hill climbs here were 120 m over 2.5 km.
That's about the same difficulty as riding a flat road with your dynamo on.
My Garmin said 190.1 at the 12 hour point but I immediately cramped solid couldn't even lift my leg over the bike, eventually I hobbled up the hill.Excellent - had to happen to someone sometime!
Three people stopped to offer lifts but I explained I needed to get to the next timekeeper,
Clyffe Pypard is virtually overhanging!
Next week, Antelope 3up TTT...I was nearly
10-mile = 20.37
25-mile = 52.26
30-mile = 1:5:13 (only one I ever rode)
09/04/11 10mls/24:38 Q10/19 cool no wind Raleigh Banana 85" fixed a new personal best ;D
If I see him, I will do. It's a good course - this will be my third time
09/04/11 10mls/24:38 Q10/19 cool no wind Raleigh Banana 85" fixed a new personal best ;D
10-mile = 20.37
25-mile = 52.26
30-mile = 1:5:13 (only one I ever rode)
...Looks like I've got a long way to go then...
Looks like I've got a long way to go then
10-mile = 20.37
25-mile = 52.26
30-mile = 1:5:13 (only one I ever rode)
Respect. :thumbsup:
...Looks like I've got a long way to go then...
I reckon you'd go a lot faster if you'd just warm up beforehand properly. 100 miles should do it.
QuoteLooks like I've got a long way to go then
These are my best-ever rides, not the ones I used to do every week.
As an example, I only ever managed to do about 6-ever sub 21-minute rides between 1985 and 1991 ... that's less than one a year!
We all start with slow times and depending on how much we put into it, we improve in big or small strokes. If you want to improve, just keep riding and this will come.
Also, don't judge yourself too much on your times but also factor in how you did against opposition of equal or slightly greater ability than you.
...the use of tri-bars is the 'great leveller'...
I'll be attempting a 100 in June. I think I'd need about a year to mentally prepare to take on a 12 or 24 hour TT!Depends how you approach them. I rode 12s as fast touring events - only did 217 miles so didn't exactly set the world on fire, but enjoyed them off the back of relatively little experience (couple of years' racing as a teenager).
I overheard a couple of old boys the other week lamenting the lack of interest in long distance TT's now. I'll be attempting a 100 in June. I think I'd need about a year to mentally prepare to take on a 12 or 24 hour TT!
Being a short distance man, I'd only ever ride a 24 if it was found that a 25 course had been measured too short! ;)Roy Cromack, long time record holder, is reputed to have treated his record 507 mile ride as a series of 25s.
Roy Cromack, long time record holder, is reputed to have treated his record 507 mile ride as a series of 25s.
Top tip - don't mess with your race bike on race day! I put in a new steerer bung before setting off for the Antelope RT 3up, noticed there was a bit of play in the fork when we arrived, went to tighten the top nut holding the front end together and sheared the bolt in half! Bloody cheap aluminium thing..
First ever 10 tonight - a 'sporting' course. 27:10. :thumbsup:
First ever 10 tonight - a 'sporting' course. 27:10. :thumbsup:
And your time was?
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09/04/11 10mls/24:38 Q10/19 cool no wind Raleigh Banana 85" fixed a new personal best ;D
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09/04/11 10mls/24:38 Q10/19 cool no wind Raleigh Banana 85" fixed a new personal best ;D
04/05/11 10mls/27:12 Q10/26 slight breeze Holdsworth Typhoon 72" gear
TT bike has headset woes at present so rode it on a 72" medium gear for a change
av speed 22.06 @ 103rpm av and 41mph max aat approx 187rpm :)
In the scratch event Hutch did 18:55!Leg stubble chaffing? ::-)
In the scratch event Hutch did 18:55!
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09/04/11 10mls/24:38 Q10/19 cool no wind Raleigh Banana 85" fixed a new personal best ;D
04/05/11 10mls/27:12 Q10/26 slight breeze Holdsworth Typhoon 72" gear
TT bike has headset woes at present so rode it on a 72" medium gear for a change
av speed 22.06 @ 103rpm av and 41mph max aat approx 187rpm :)
11/05/11 10mls/26:04 Q10/26 warm Holdsworth Typhoon 84" gear
This week the timekeeper decided to spice up the club 10 by offering a bottle of wine as a handicap prize (based on the last couple of weeks' times). The last couple of weeks have been terribly windy, so I had just turned up on a road bike purely for the training. This week, despite being only about 10 deg C and raining, the wind had dropped, so I brought out the lo-pro and upped my game to see if I could make something of my generous handicap. I went a minute and a half faster!
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rhys.llangefni/lluniau/prize.jpg)
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There's a lot of familiar names there. 7 Ystwyth CC rides to watch out for, at least 3 of them could knock out some serious distance on a good day...
Good luck Ian. :thumbsup:
I've seen a couple of pictures on Facebook. Everyone looked pretty good. Who was the guy on a folder?
I imagine it was a hot one! Nice for a ride, hard for a long TT!
Well done. Going to the Mersey 24 as well Ian?
Date | Course | Distance | Time | Pos. | Notes |
13 Apr | UC186 | 9.6miles | 26:02 | 10/16 | Wet & SE Wind |
20 Apr | UC186 | 9.6miles | 25:02 | 32/54 | Warm & Light Wind |
27 Apr | UC186 | 9.6miles | 24:59 | 30/60 | Sunny & N Wind |
30 Apr | U47 | 10 miles | 25:09 | 92/120 | Strong E Crosswind PB on a Std 10 |
4 May | UC186 | 9.6miles | 25:42 | 31/54 | Overcast & E Wind |
11 May | UC186 | 9.6miles | 26:12 | 43/66 | Dry & Strong S Wind |
16 Jun | A10/11 | 10 miles | 27:14 | 12/27 | Wet & Crosswind |
13 July | UC186 | 9.6 miles | 26:08 | 40/55 | Warm & Sunny |
Any idea who it might be?
S.W. (Stuart) Jackson
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I was in the cafe in Slaidburn on Sunday, when I met a guy who had done 504 miles on the North Road 24. Obviously, it was some time ago as I'd say he was about 60-65. He was well over six feet tall. I didn't ask him his name as he seemed embarrassed (it was his wife who buttonholed me!). Any idea who it might be?
Feeling pretty good tonight, did 24:34 - fastest I've gone for a few years. An improvement of 1:10 (or 4.5%) on Saturday, and only 47s off my PB from about 8 years ago. :thumbsup:
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Previous results.
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The Elmet 12 hour TT for me this weekend. I reckon I did 222 miles, we'll see what the timekeepers say when they've worked it out. This was unsupported but the course is quite good because, unlike the ESCA 24, all the laps passed the HQ. I was never more than 40 miles away from my bag drop :thumbsup: The winner didThat sounds a nice event - course looks nice279 or something like that275.
[EDIT: Official results are up (http://cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/Default.aspx?&ge482__geka=zDDQ-6ZV33MzjqeBwbmQrz_ANSkB_T7qN_S6WibhjZQ7lWdVorNhujUmx1ZTuQec&ge482__gevi=bkosVTEcmXX5ekdECVvBmA&gv484__gvff0=56498&gv484__gvfl0=0&gv676__gvac=2&language=en-GB&tabid=109). I got 222.43]
I'll do it again next year if it's not the week after the Mersey, but my hopes aren't high on that front.I don't know how I can refuse such a charming invitation. Sadly it's a year too late for me to solve that particular problem for you. ;)
[EDIT: Yes Matt, you should do it. It's friendly and charming, plus I don't want to be the slowest senior male again :P]
If two riders of similar standard catch each other, they may race each other directly.This is what happened a few years ago (about 1971) when Derek Cottington from the Charlotteville was last man off and one minute behind Phil 'The Engine' Bayton. The organiser was Roger Iddles who for some reason set out the field like this.
Previous results.
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We need a nickname for you Steve - something like Statto. Facto?!?
Previous results.14/08/11 50mls/2:23:17 Q50/1 Hilly Raleigh Team Professional 86" fixedgear
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Course PB tonight on the UC101, 4 seconds faster at 26:26 !
A nice evening although quite breezy after the turn at Cromhall.
Large field out tonight with the added attraction of a buffet in the pub afterwards.
Course PB tonight on the UC101, 4 seconds faster at 26:26 !
A nice evening although quite breezy after the turn at Cromhall.
Large field out tonight with the added attraction of a buffet in the pub afterwards.
Well done, always good to improve on a pb :)
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/09/09 25/1:09:50 G25/89 rolling, damp Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
11/04/10 9.5mls/28:07 QS/30 Hilly/cold Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
24/04/10 10mls/25.47 Q10/19 flat with a drag dry/mild Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/05/10 10mls/26.14 Q10/26 cool/ breeze Graham Weigh 88" gear
26/05/10 10mls/25.51 Q10/26 cool breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
02/06/10 10mls/24.58 Q10/26 warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
15/06/10 10mls/25.50 Q10/29 flat warm/windy Graham Weigh 90" fixed
17/06/10 10mls/25.15 Q10/29 Flat warm/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
23/06/10 10mls/25.32 Q10/26 Rolling warm/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
07/07/10 10mls/24:53 Q10/26 Rolling warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
14/07/10 10mls/25:44 Q10/26 rolling/cool/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" fixed
15/07/10 9.5mls/27:33 QS/30 Hilly breezy Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
18/07/10 23.4mls/1:05:41 Q25/20 modified hilly Graham Weigh 90" fixed
21/07/10 10mls/25:14 Q10/26 hilly breezy Raleigh Banana 94" fixed
28/07/10 10mls/25:12 Q10/26 hilly/breezy Raleigh Banana 94" fixed
11/08/10 10mls/24:56 Q10/26 Hilly/calm Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
15/08/10 50mls/2h:22m:25sec Q50/1 hilly/windy Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
05/09/10 12hour/190.03mls Q12/1 rolling/windy Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
26/09/10 25mls/1:08:38 G25/53 Cold/windy brake rubbing Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
09/04/11 10mls/24;38 Q10/19 cool no wind Raleigh Banana 85" fixed Personal Best
02/06/10 10mls/24.58 Q10/26 warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
04/05/11 10mls/27:12 Q10/26 slight breeze Holdsworth Typhoon 72" gear
11/05/11 10mls/26:04 Q10/26 warm Holdsworth Typhoon 84" gear
25/05/11 10mls/25:48 Q10/26 warm Holdsworth Typhoon 84" gear
31/05/11 10mls/25:06 Q10/24 warm/ windy Raleigh Team Professional 84" gear
01/06/11 10mls/25:08 Q10/26 cool Raleigh Team Professional 84" gear
07/06/11 10mls/25:54 Q10/24 windy Raleigh Team Proffesional 84" gear
03/07/11 25mls/1:03:20 Q25/10 warm Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
13/07/11 10.4mls/31:21 QS/30 warm/hilly Unknown 531C tourer 73" gear
19/07/11 10mls/24:42 Q10/24 cool/slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
24/07/11 10mls/24:36 warm/slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
27/07/11 10mls/24:20 slight breeze Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
02/08/11 10mls/23:58 Q10/24 slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" fixed gear
14/08/11 50mls/2:23:17 Q50/1 hilly Raleigh Team Proffessional 86" fixed gear
16/08/11 10mls/24:32 Q10/24/ Windy to turn Raleigh Team Professional 97" fixed
18/08/11 9.5mls/27:57 Q30S/very windy & raining & hilly Raleigh Team Professional 84" fixed
Date | Course | Distance | Time | Pos. | Notes : PB's in Bold | |
13 Apr | UC186 | 9.6miles | 26:02 | 10/16 | Wet & SE Wind | |
20 Apr | UC186 | 9.6miles | 25:02 | 32/54 | Warm & Light Wind | |
27 Apr | UC186 | 9.6miles | 24:59 | 30/60 | Sunny & N Wind | |
30 Apr | U47 | 10 miles | 25:09 | 92/120 | Strong E Crosswind | |
4 May | UC186 | 9.6miles | 25:42 | 31/54 | Overcast & E Wind | |
11 May | UC186 | 9.6miles | 26:12 | 43/66 | Dry & Strong S Wind | |
16 Jun | A10/11 | 10 miles | 27:14 | 12/27 | Wet & Crosswind | |
13 July | UC186 | 9.6 miles | 26:08 | 40/55 | Warm & Sunny | |
27 July | UC186 | 9.6 miles | 25:16 | 43/60 | Warm & Cloudy | |
2 Aug | UC101 | 9.8 miles | 26:30 | 16/23 | Warm & Light Wind | |
9 Aug | UC108 | 9.8 miles | 27:40 | 14/24 | Warm & Light Wind | |
16 Aug | UC101 | 9.8 miles | 26:26 | 22/50 | Warm & Breezy | |
21 Aug | B'heim | 12.5miles | 35.10 | 83/201 | Fair & Undulating | |
23 Aug | UC108 | 9.8miles | 26.35 | 16/35 | Warm & Light Wind |
...I just really hate this course it's not fixed friendly :)
Nik Bowdler also got under the hour - CTT Results (http://cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/Default.aspx?&ge1246__geka=zDDQ-6ZV33MzjqeBwbmQrz_ANSkB_T7qN_S6WibhjZRirRv2b2BrK4cQfHshgCaVbB33hrFyqUDslvAOFhWvnQ&ge1246__gevi=9U_xAO8fp0lQqgbHCX_zhQ&gv484__gvac=2&gv484__gvff0=56806&gv484__gvfl0=0&language=en-GB&tabid=109)
...a bloke from Leeds won with 5:37...Hooray. In my day (a long time ago), it was the British Student Sports Federation, though.
I'm looking forward to the BUCS 25 next week where I won't have 60 miles in my legs. Barring calamity, I'll definitely aim to come in under the hour.
I missed the very beginning of the TT season for 2 reasons:
1. Easter Arrow travel
2. The first 2 weeks were 4 milers - who does that? It takes me nearly a mile to get to full speed, so there's not much point for me.
I missed the very beginning of the TT season for 2 reasons:
1. Easter Arrow travel
2. The first 2 weeks were 4 milers - who does that? It takes me nearly a mile to get to full speed, so there's not much point for me.
Don't worry, it gets worse as you get older. I seem now to be faster over 25 than I am over 10 miles.
Date Distance/Time Course type Weather conditions Bike ridden
05/07/06 10mls/26.39 Rolling Q10/26 cleardry Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06 10 mls/25.38 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07 24hr TT/334 rolling cold drizzle Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07 10mls/26.45 rolling Q10/26 clear dry Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08 9mls/29.37 Hillyish Qs/30 wet Lambert 79" gear
20/04/08 10mls/28.42 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and cold Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08 10mls/27.09 rolling Q10 /22 warm & sunny Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08 10mls/27.24 rolling Q10/26 hot/windy Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08 10mls/27.16 Hillyish Q10/3 dry and hot Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08 9mls/30,23 Hilly QS 30 pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08 10mls/ 25.33 rolling Q10/26 hot & windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
26/07/08 10mls/25.30 flat Q10/24 hot /windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
29/07/08 10mls /25.40 rolling Q10/26 hot slight wind Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08 10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
13/08/08 10mls/26.0 rolling Q10/26 very windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09 10mls/27.01 rolling Q10/18 cold/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
25/04/09 10mls/25.28 flat Q10/19 slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
20/05/09 10mls/26.07 rolling Q10/26 slight wind/warm Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09 10mls/25.39 rolling Q10/22 warm/cross wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
03/06/09 10mls/25.14 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09 10mls/25.34 rolling Q10/26 cool/ slight wind Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09 10mls/25.20 rolling Q10/26 cool/windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09 10mls/25.25 rolling Q10/18 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09 10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/07/09 25mls/1:05:34 rolling Q25/8 hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09 10mls/25.45 rolling Q10/26 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
19/07/09 25mls/1.08.22 rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09 10mls/26.02 flattish Q10/24 bloody windy Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09 10mls/25.11 Q10/26 rolling/warm Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09 10mls/25.15 Q10/18 rolling/hot Graham Weigh 88" gear
20/09/09 25/1:09:50 G25/89 rolling, damp Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
11/04/10 9.5mls/28:07 QS/30 Hilly/cold Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
24/04/10 10mls/25.47 Q10/19 flat with a drag dry/mild Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/05/10 10mls/26.14 Q10/26 cool/ breeze Graham Weigh 88" gear
26/05/10 10mls/25.51 Q10/26 cool breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
02/06/10 10mls/24.58 Q10/26 warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
15/06/10 10mls/25.50 Q10/29 flat warm/windy Graham Weigh 90" fixed
17/06/10 10mls/25.15 Q10/29 Flat warm/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
23/06/10 10mls/25.32 Q10/26 Rolling warm/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
07/07/10 10mls/24:53 Q10/26 Rolling warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
14/07/10 10mls/25:44 Q10/26 rolling/cool/windy Graham Weigh 90.5" fixed
15/07/10 9.5mls/27:33 QS/30 Hilly breezy Lambert Proffessional 76" gear
18/07/10 23.4mls/1:05:41 Q25/20 modified hilly Graham Weigh 90" fixed
21/07/10 10mls/25:14 Q10/26 hilly breezy Raleigh Banana 94" fixed
28/07/10 10mls/25:12 Q10/26 hilly/breezy Raleigh Banana 94" fixed
11/08/10 10mls/24:56 Q10/26 Hilly/calm Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
15/08/10 50mls/2h:22m:25sec Q50/1 hilly/windy Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
05/09/10 12hour/190.03mls Q12/1 rolling/windy Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
26/09/10 25mls/1:08:38 G25/53 Cold/windy brake rubbing Raleigh Banana 85" fixed
09/04/11 10mls/24;38 Q10/19 cool no wind Raleigh Banana 85" fixed Personal Best
02/06/10 10mls/24.58 Q10/26 warm/breeze Graham Weigh 90.5" gear
04/05/11 10mls/27:12 Q10/26 slight breeze Holdsworth Typhoon 72" gear
11/05/11 10mls/26:04 Q10/26 warm Holdsworth Typhoon 84" gear
25/05/11 10mls/25:48 Q10/26 warm Holdsworth Typhoon 84" gear
31/05/11 10mls/25:06 Q10/24 warm/ windy Raleigh Team Professional 84" gear
01/06/11 10mls/25:08 Q10/26 cool Raleigh Team Professional 84" gear
07/06/11 10mls/25:54 Q10/24 windy Raleigh Team Proffesional 84" gear
03/07/11 25mls/1:03:20 Q25/10 warm Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
13/07/11 10.4mls/31:21 QS/30 warm/hilly Unknown 531C tourer 73" gear
19/07/11 10mls/24:42 Q10/24 cool/slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
24/07/11 10mls/24:36 warm/slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
27/07/11 10mls/24:20 slight breeze Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" gear
02/08/11 10mls/23:58 Q10/24 slight wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 97" fixed gear
14/08/11 50mls/2:23:17 Q50/1 hilly Raleigh Team Proffessional 86" fixed gear
16/08/11 10mls/24:32 Q10/24/ Windy to turn Raleigh Team Professional 97" fixed
18/08/11 9.5mls/27:57 Q30S/very windy & raining & hilly Raleigh Team Professional 84" fixed
21/04/12 10mls/25:46 Q10/19 cool breeze Planet X multiple gears
02/05/12 10mls/25:18 Q10/26 wet and breeze Planet X TT bike
05/05/12 25mls/1:07:07 E33/25 cool wind Raleigh Team Proffessional 86" fixed [2 up TT]
06/05/12 25mls/1:09:11 Q25/8 Very wet/windy and freezing cold Planet X TT bike
02/05/12 Q10/26 10mls/25:18 muggy drizzle Planet X TT bike
23/05/12 Q10/26 10mls/25:30 Very hot Raleigh Team Professional 86" fixed
29/05/12 Q10/24 10mls/24:03 cool breeze Planet X TT bike
27/06/12 Q10/26 10mls/24:36 hot muggy Raleigh Team Professional 97" fixed
21/05/13 Q10/24 10mls/24:43 mild breezy Raleigh Team Professional 97" fixed
04/06/13 Q10/24 10mls/23:57 mild breezy Raleigh Team Professional 97" fixed
16/06/13 Q100 100mls 05:00:24 mild fairly windy Raleigh Team Professional 86" fixed
27/08/13 Q10/24 10mls/23:43 Warm no wind Raleigh Team Professional 97" fixed
I got my first win today!
...Yesterday, I had entered a 100 in Norfolk but decided to do the Severn Across instead.
I did 226 in the first half of the Sussex '24' last year. I know I lose 3mph in the dark - so that would make 240 a par score and 250 the stretch target - provided I can find someone to hand me up bottles pork pies and Twix on the A11 on 5 August. :-\Good luck on the A11 - I nearly died of boredom on that one! But I expect the 100 course was not dissimilar.
Matt, is that a 12 hour distance as 60% of a 24 hour distance? That's interesting; it suggests I underperformed for my 12 last year, which makes sense as I didn't feel nearly as good as I did on the 24 - possibly due to my hilly 400k the week before! To save you eating your hats, a prime counter-example is Mr Wilkinson himself: just over 300 for the 12 and 541 for the 24. That's a whole 41 miles over-distance! It makes you wonder what sort of a 12 he could do.Yes exactly. Of course Mr W has done a number of 24s and 12s, and - surprise! - he didn't ride the same distance each time. So my "rule" is - again, surprise! - not going to predict every performance.
I did 226 in the first half of the Sussex '24' last year. I know I lose 3mph in the dark - so that would make 240 a par score and 250 the stretch target - provided I can find someone to hand me up bottles pork pies and Twix on the A11 on 5 August. :-\Good luck on the A11 - I nearly died of boredom on that one! But I expect the 100 course was not dissimilar.
I had a look at 12h/24h distances for various riders last year, and found that a "60%" rule seemed to work pretty well. [If noone posts a counter example I shall eat all the hats I am currently wearing.]
H10/17r - A420 | 31st May 2012 - 25:06
About a minute knocked off my PB - set on the same event last year. They're my only 2 rides on a quickish course, but last year was awfully windy on the way out. Last week was very good conditions indeed.
Am I happy? Of course not, I want to be 7 seconds faster ... ::-) (And Ross wasn't there to beat ;D )
I don't expect to go any faster this season - no club nights on quick courses - so emphasis will shift to the long stuff (on a comfortable bike!). Is it time to start a 2012 M24h thread?
Well done, Ian!Thank-you - though I don't deserve it.
I did my first 100 yesterday...
...I had a great time - enjoyed it more than anything I've ridden since PBP!...
I've just done 1:14:57 in a 50.New comp record?
I finally got my results through, I was third, though it doesn't sound quite so good considering that I was the only senior male there!
58.43 in the National 25 today. I've broken the hour, WOOOOOOHOOOOO!
That was a fast race, much as you'd expect! Ryan Mullen won the juniors in a stonking 48.48 a
Well done Frank.
Wilko did 317.9 miles in the Breckland 12 today :o
To put that in perspective that's nearly thirteen 56:40 25 mile rides done back to back!
On a mountain bike!
Wilko would be the first to correct you there - his bike is *nothing* like a mountain bike. It's a custom-built frame from Dolan, specifically made to his dimensions and closely matching a previous titanium frame which he broke. The only thing it has in common with an MTB are the V-brakes.
I always stare out the window at work about this time of day, and seem to despair at rain and wind. I don't want to go and do a TT in wet wind!!!
Managed a 3 sec course PB tonight even though it was windy- really pleased with that. Threw up at mile 5 and 7- had a headwind at the time so got loads of horrid splashback lol. I'm so classy.
+1 Oranj.....It seems that the death stats are increasing for tt's, I hope they start to come down with the expected increase in participants following Bradleys exploits..
Sad, sad news, condolences to riders family and friends
That is sickening news Mr Bunbury.
This was a new course to me, and certainly far from the worst dual carriageway I've ridden in the last few years (this may be the first accident, fatal or otherwise, on it).
Cyclist dies in time trial event: BBC North Yorkshire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-19311114)
It seems that the death stats are increasing for tt's, I hope they start to come down with the expected increase in participants following Bradleys exploits..I think you should be cautious with statements like that.
Date Course Distance Time Position Notes : PB's in Bold 10 Apr UC186 9.6miles 25:47 20/34 Wet & SE Wind
25 Apr UC108 10.2miles 28:50 5/8 Wet & V.Windy 9 May UC108 10.2miles 28:01 3/9 Wet & V.Windy again ! 29 May UC242 10.2miles 25:50 6/23 Warm & Light Wind 6 Jun UC108 10.2miles 27:41 9/12 Wet & Windy 26 Jun UC242 10.2miles 26:39 2/3 Mist & Drizzle 3 Jul UC186 9.6miles 24:47 8/20 Heavy Rain 4 Jul UC108 10.2miles 27:26 9/14 SW Wind & Warm 18 Jul UC108 10.2miles 27:46 13/15 Dry & V.Windy 31 Jul UC101 10.1miles 25:45 10/18 Light Wind & Humid 7 Aug UC186 9.6miles 25:04 10/18 Very Wet 15 Aug UC108 10.2miles 27:29 8/16 Very Windy 21 Aug UC186 9.6miles 25:13 10/25 Strong SW Wind 29 Aug UC108 10.2miles 27:15 10/16 Fair & Slight SW Wind
I finished in 1:08-ish
I though today looked like a great day for my open 25 but it still managed to be windy!!! Won a massive £10 for 2nd lady, I'm booking a Caribbean cruise :)
Final Sodbury TT of the season last night, and after a day of heavy showers the evening was pleasant although plenty of water remained on the course.Well done! :thumbsup: Now don't expect us to keep up with you though!
PB'd by 11 secs - 27:15 :thumbsup:
After the ride, the club held their presentation evening with sandwiches & chips and I even managed to win the Vet40 award/prize for the season !!! ( a Camelbak water bottle & a Leyzme rear light )
Just worked out what kind of time I could possibly manage in a ten mile TT. Let's just say it was nowhere nearly as impressive as some of these times!
I think next spring will have my first attempt at one, so I have the winter to shed the aerodynamically cuvaceous beer belly and harden up the legs :thumbsup:
Good shot, to go with the good PB :thumbsup:
Our club's last one tonight but I have girlflu so I'm not doing it. What on earth do we do till March now?!?!?!That's an easy one:
Anyway, why are all the hill TTs going up, they should do them going down. Dont you think I would win those?Do I have to answer that?
Oh god, hill climb season :'(
My attendance at club Freewheeling comps has been nearly 100% :smug:
Oh god, hill climb season :'(
Take a trip to the R25/3 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://timetrialmaps.com/ImageGen/ImgGen3.aspx%3Ffile%3DR25-3L.csv&imgrefurl=http://timetrialmaps.com/Courses/ShowCourse.aspx%3FCourseID%3D59&usg=__kyTc9tHiwiva6GtcTT5QwBLhknc=&h=250&w=750&sz=55&hl=en&start=16&zoom=1&tbnid=RJQtCvECktULSM:&tbnh=47&tbnw=141&ei=v916ULGAPIjA0QWF1oGwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dr25%2B3%2Btime%2Btrial%2Bcourse%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DX%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd%3Divnsfd&itbs=1) (if you can get an an entry). A look at the profile will explain why it's known locally as the "ski slope" ;)
Take a trip to the R25/3 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://timetrialmaps.com/ImageGen/ImgGen3.aspx%3Ffile%3DR25-3L.csv&imgrefurl=http://timetrialmaps.com/Courses/ShowCourse.aspx%3FCourseID%3D59&usg=__kyTc9tHiwiva6GtcTT5QwBLhknc=&h=250&w=750&sz=55&hl=en&start=16&zoom=1&tbnid=RJQtCvECktULSM:&tbnh=47&tbnw=141&ei=v916ULGAPIjA0QWF1oGwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dr25%2B3%2Btime%2Btrial%2Bcourse%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DX%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd%3Divnsfd&itbs=1) (if you can get an an entry). A look at the profile will explain why it's known locally as the "ski slope" ;)
shall I put lead weights in my water bottles for that course?
how ridiculous
You should have removed your LH shift lever as well then. ;)That would have been illegal!
(This used to be seen on fixed hill climb bikes - just a hood to grab onto, with the brake lever removed)
This Saturday was the BUCS climb up Curbar Gap (http://www.strava.com/segments/curbar-gap-628640) in Derbyshire..Who were you riding for? My avatar is from the 1978 '25' (BSSF in those days). Don't recall a hill climb, but then I probably wouldn't have entered, as I'm much more built for freewheeling competitions.
As I've told you my time, a check of the results sheet on CTT will narrow me down to two options ;)
Annoyingly, a friend has decided to get married on the day of this year's 25. Why can't she just live in sin?!
This Saturday was the BUCS climb up Curbar Gap (http://www.strava.com/segments/curbar-gap-628640) in Derbyshire..Who were you riding for? My avatar is from the 1978 '25' (BSSF in those days). Don't recall a hill climb, but then I probably wouldn't have entered, as I'm much more built for freewheeling competitions.
n.b. I may not be the Matt C that is Curbar Gap strava leader.I had wondered... ;)
PS Cudzo, for your interest I gave my 39x25 bottom gear plenty of love this weekend ;)I still favour 34x28 - purely tactically, of course!
First Evening 10 tonight, a lovely evening beautiful sunshine ...... however it was only about 4 degrees C with a strong easterly wind blowing & with the course starting on top of the southern edge of the Cotswolds it was freezing.Which TT was that if you don't mind me asking?
Only managed a 29:52, my PB is 27:15 !!!
Which TT was that if you don't mind me asking?
Struggled round the first of the year, our club's hilly. Actually, 'struggled' is wrong as I'm not yet fit enough even to struggle. Still, I was by no means last and (importantly!) I was only beaten by younger men.Happy Birthday!
25 this weekend.
I wish!25 this weekend.Happy Birthday!
Date | Course | Distance | Time | Position | Notes : PB's in Bold |
2 Apr | UC108 | 10.2miles | 29:52 | 5/10 | Strong SW Wind |
9 Apr | UC109 | 10.2miles | 29:12 | 9/14 | Strong E Wind |
23 Apr | UC108A | 10.1miles | 28:00 | 11/14 | Strong SW Wind |
7 May | UC108A | 10.1miles | 26:42 | 8/15 | Warm & Light SE Wind |
Course | Date | Time | Comments |
E3/10 | 24.04.08 | 30'15 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet |
E3/10a | 24.07.08 | 28'05 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet |
U21/10 | 15.05.13 | 29'22 | Madone 5.2, open pro wheels, 23mm tyres, dynohub, edelux, drops, windy, no helmet |
Course Date Time Comments U21/10 15.05.13 29'22 Madone 5.2, open pro wheels, 23mm tyres, dynohub, edelux, drops, windy, no helmet
First TT in nearly 5 years. Goal, get under 30 minutes (bike is set-up for audax riding, so is slower than the configuration used for the previous 2 times). My second best time for a 10.
Course Date Time Comments U21/10 15.05.13 29'22 Madone 5.2, open pro wheels, 23mm tyres, dynohub, edelux, drops, windy, no helmet
First TT in nearly 5 years. Goal, get under 30 minutes (bike is set-up for audax riding, so is slower than the configuration used for the previous 2 times). My second best time for a 10.
Well done for beating evens ;)
What's the U21/10 like ? Start near Axbridge ?
Set up my clubs course this week ( UC108a ) on Tuesday evening, heavy rain, cold & windy, but even the dire conditions didn't deter 6 riders showing up !
Fboab, I don't know what a 'good time' is for a 50, I've only done one.....Doesn't need to be good, just, not embarrassing!
Course | Date | Time | Comments |
E3/10 | 24.04.08 | 30'15 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet |
E3/10a | 24.07.08 | 28'05 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet |
U21/10 | 15.05.13 | 29'22 | Madone 5.2, open pro wheels, 23mm tyres, dynohub, edelux, drops, windy, no helmet |
U21/10 | 22.05.13 | 27’05 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 23mm tyres, blustery cross-wind, clip-ons, bambino helmet, not happy with position yet |
PB for a given distance in bold.Well I did say you should be going faster! [On friday night] :thumbsup:
27’05
...
Was bloody hard work, especially 3 day after the Bryan Chapman.
PB for a given distance in bold.
27’05
Well I did say you should be going faster! [On friday night] :thumbsup:
I have no idea how you did that. Yesterday I rode 10 miles of the club (20 mile) chain gang. I got chicked and dropped quite comprehensively. Sore legs wasn't the limit - I couldn't get my HR upto anywhere near race pace.
Just pathetic, even worse than I'd expected.
PB for a given distance in bold.
27’05
Congrats!
We had several people doing their first TT, which is always heartwarming. It does mean that I've just posted something on the club forum about placing your number (i.e. low) and calling it out when you cross the line. Still, we managed to get correct times recorded for everyone. Phew, now I feel like a proper tester!
Rode the Somerset RC Evening 10 from Axbridge tonight - U21/10.
A flat out & back course on the A38.
Fair breeze blowing tonight but this didn't stop me producing my fastest time on a 10 ! 24:40 :)
Just to put it into perspective though I believe the fastest time was 20:30 ::-)
Rode the Somerset RC Evening 10 from Axbridge tonight - U21/10.
A flat out & back course on the A38.
Fair breeze blowing tonight but this didn't stop me producing my fastest time on a 10 ! 24:40 :)
Just to put it into perspective though I believe the fastest time was 20:30 ::-)
I’d have been there if it wasn’t for the lurgy. Still not 100% so not sure if I will ride tonight, riding to/from work in Bristol took its toll.
(To have set off at a pace over a mile an hour too fastSeems to be your Audax strategy ;)(or slow)and I wouldn't expect to have a good experience!)
I may see you at the Kent 12h, Rob. Looking through the list of 12-hour TTs left, it's one of the few I've not ridden and as every year more disappear from the CTT calendar (no Lancs 12h this year - I've never ridden it because although a flat course it was just a bit too far north), it would seem churlish not to give it a go. I hear it's not the fastest of courses but that won't bother me, I'm having a bit of a year off taking my racing seriously.
(I've not ridden the D12 either, but that's the same roads as the Anfield 100 and Mersey 24, so I feel like I've done those enough already. It's the same day as the National 12 which is on a fast course, so not likely to get many entries.)
The last 2 miles were so far into the paincave it wasn't funny, but I did make it a metre or 2 past the finish before throwing up all over myself. I prefer to at least finish before I do that. I keep looking at these and thinking I could go obv go faster in the first couple of miles, but on that surface I'm not sure I can.
Still really happy.
Great time Lady C.
Where is the course ?
The last 2 miles were so far into the paincave it wasn't funny, but I did make it a metre or 2 past the finish before throwing up all over myself. I prefer to at least finish before I do that. I keep looking at these and thinking I could go obv go faster in the first couple of miles, but on that surface I'm not sure I can.
Still really happy.
::-)
And people call audaxers "mad"! The only time I rode a TT, I was sick in the hedge. Clearly it's a theme.
Well done!
Course | Date | Time | Comments |
E3/10 | 24.04.08 | 30'15 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet |
E3/10a | 24.07.08 | 28'05 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet |
U21/10 | 15.05.13 | 29'22 | Madone 5.2, open pro wheels, 23mm tyres, dynohub, edelux, drops, windy, no helmet |
U21/10 | 22.05.13 | 27’05 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 23mm tyres, blustery cross-wind, clip-ons, bambino helmet, not happy with position yet |
U21/10 | 19.06.13 | 26’11 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 23mm tyres, bambino, new better clip-ons, light headwind out |
PB for a given distance in bold.
Course Date Time Comments E3/10 24.04.08 30'15 Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet E3/10a 24.07.08 28'05 Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet U21/10 15.05.13 29'22 Madone 5.2, open pro wheels, 23mm tyres, dynohub, edelux, drops, windy, no helmet U21/10 22.05.13 27’05 Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 23mm tyres, blustery cross-wind, clip-ons, bambino helmet, not happy with position yet U21/10 19.06.13 26’11 Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 23mm tyres, bambino, new better clip-ons, light headwind out
Getting faster…
How were the conditions Simon, it seems a quick night - warm, not much wind.
I hope to ride that course again, depends on work, family, life etc ::-)
BTW ............ well done :thumbsup:
I'm still coming to terms with the whole veteran thing so please don't bring it up too often :). So my time for 100 is the standard for a 51 yr old. The same rider is expected to do 198 miles in a 12. I'm pretty sure I can do a bit more than 200 miles but not sure how much.
The interesting thing today is that I went through the 50 mile check in approx 2hrs 29m so my pace was very steady. That said I definitely can't hold that speed for 12hrs.
My standard for a 12 is 212 miles which looks like a decent goal. Looks in line with drossall's advice :thumbsup:
Rob
I'm still coming to terms with the whole veteran thing so please don't bring it up too often :). So my time for 100 is the standard for a 51 yr old. The same rider is expected to do 198 miles in a 12. I'm pretty sure I can do a bit more than 200 miles but not sure how much.
The interesting thing today is that I went through the 50 mile check in approx 2hrs 29m so my pace was very steady. That said I definitely can't hold that speed for 12hrs.
My standard for a 12 is 212 miles which looks like a decent goal. Looks in line with drossall's advice :thumbsup:
Rob
Great ride Rob, you will go well in the 12hr, miles in the legs are more beneficial than speed for those distances.
My time was 5hrs 00mins 24secs on 86" fixed I spent 5mins off the bike a/ stopping rear brake rubbing b/ swapping drinks bottles c/ stretching my aching back.
That was my first ride over 67 miles this year so I was pleased really :D just a bit gutted about those 24seconds :(
I forgot to add that I have new Continental Grand Prix TT tyres on. Wonder how many of the 54 seconds improvement was down to them?
And on a tandem, fast is down to me, and slow is the other fella?I forgot to add that I have new Continental Grand Prix TT tyres on. Wonder how many of the 54 seconds improvement was down to them?
None. The rule is: if you go slower your equipment is to blame; if you go faster, it's entirely down to you.
And on a tandem, fast is down to me, and slow is the other fella?I forgot to add that I have new Continental Grand Prix TT tyres on. Wonder how many of the 54 seconds improvement was down to them?
None. The rule is: if you go slower your equipment is to blame; if you go faster, it's entirely down to you.
23/06/13 B50/17 2:32:11 Jane Swain up front on Jack Taylor Tandem Trike. Lots of wind, head & tail.
Got into the pain cave at the start (thanks for that description, Lady C) & never left it. Please let me remember this so jes doesn't manage to persuade me again.
The last 2 miles were so far into the paincave it wasn't funny, but I did make it a metre or 2 past the finish before throwing up all over myself. I prefer to at least finish before I do that. I keep looking at these and thinking I could go obv go faster in the first couple of miles, but on that surface I'm not sure I can.
Still really happy.
::-)
And people call audaxers "mad"! The only time I rode a TT, I was sick in the hedge. Clearly it's a theme.
(last para made me laugh, in this context!)Managed a 3 sec course PB tonight even though it was windy- really pleased with that. Threw up at mile 5 and 7- had a headwind at the time so got loads of horrid splashback lol. I'm so classy.
Jeez. Therein lie the reasons I don't do TTs. I tried one and barfed my tea in the hedge, much to the amusement of those at the finish line. No thanks :hand:.
My nephew is a Cat III and used to do TTs. His coach reckoned if he hadn't parked his lunch somewhere, he wasn't trying hard enough.
ETA: I may have already mentioned this on this thread. This is the problem with (a) getting old and (3) having such long threads.
(snipped - assorted embarrassing memory lapses)
Just rode up to Cricklade to have a quick recce of the local club 10 course before I consider doing my first "official" TT, to make sure I won't completely embarrass myself.
Then I saw some of the times in this thread.
I'm going to need some tri bars. And a pointy hat. Oh, and some deep carbon wheels. Screw it, a new bike. And some EPO too. :'(
Plus a number on your back makes you faster :D
...getting a disc wheel and pointy hat and then finishing slowly would be far more embarrassing than clocking the same time in jersey and shorts.
I keep meaning to write something to scrape through all of my old GPX tracklogs to find my fastest 10 mile time (I'll be able to remember from the ride whether there was a huge tailwind or not). It would also be careful to note the start and end elevations to rule out "courses" with a huge ski ramp start!You get this on endomondo, it tells you your best times for various distances. Unfortunately it only works when you're using the app, rather than uploaded GPXs. It's also credited me with a faster 50 than I actually rode, TT-ing, so not completely accurate.
Surprised that something like Strava doesn't offer this already.
*Gulp* I've missed the "come and try it" TT in Swindon and I've been meaning to join anyway (I've been on a few of their Saturday morning rides). So I'm now a member of Swindon RC, and I'll either
a) be posting here on Thursday evening with my STUNNING new 10mi PB, or
b) be dead.
Well done, now you've got a nice target to aim for :)
I'd eventually like to ride the 24 - hopefully, next year.
I'd eventually like to ride the 24 - hopefully, next year.
There will be 2 next year. Mersey Roads and one in Sussex, which is the course where Wilko got the record and is the only 24 that 2 riders got over 500 miles (John Warnock with 517)
The Sussex was a very good event and will be pretty easy for you to get to. :)
Basically they are not very accurate!Hallejulah!
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I often see quite different figures for the same course and have seen significantly different figures from clubmates riding the same TT using the same GPS gadget.
I had a look at results earlier, the female entries seem really quite low.....Low number of entries, and low miles. S'interesting... (It is not impossible I will be doing both 24s next year. On neither would I be in charge of the bike.)
Course | Date | Time | Comments |
E3/10 | 24.04.08 | 30'15 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet |
E3/10a | 24.07.08 | 28'05 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 25mm tyres, clip ons, normal helmet |
U21/10 | 15.05.13 | 29'22 | Madone 5.2, open pro wheels, 23mm tyres, dynohub, edelux, drops, windy, no helmet |
U21/10 | 22.05.13 | 27’05 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 23mm tyres, blustery cross-wind, clip-ons, bambino helmet, not happy with position yet |
U21/10 | 19.06.13 | 26’11 | Madone 5.2, racelite wheels, 23mm tyres, bambino, new better clip-ons, light headwind out |
U21/10 | 19.06.13 | 26’33 | As above, but lowered and shortened arm position. Very hot, not too windy. |
Whereabouts is the Sussex 24 held ?
Is it flatter than the Mersey ?
Maybe my 2014 goal :-\
Hmmm, well I'll need to change something.
I'm not sure how I'd 'know' it was comfy for 24 hours- I can't see myself doing a 600k on a TT bike?! I guess I'd need to do a 12 hour or something?
As for speed- who knows, I guess I'd have to just try and find out what people think I should be able to do who know more than me. Which is pretty much everyone.
I had a look at results earlier, the female entries seem really quite low.....
Whereabouts is the Sussex 24 held ?
Is it flatter than the Mersey ?
Maybe my 2014 goal :-\
I'm probably not the best person to ask where the start is, since I arrived at the start line 15 seconds before I was off after a frantic 5 mile ride from HQ to start line after getting a bit lost on the way to the start, but it's near Eastbourne.
At least I could relax a bit once I started the race.
It's about the same as the Mersey. Neither are flat. The Mersey course changed about 10 years ago and it did make it a bit faster, especially with the Hodnet bypass.
I prefer the Sussex to the Mersey, except if I ride it next year unsupported I might plant food and drink bags around the course.
Course | Date | Time | Comments |
U48 | 2013-07-11 | 31:13 | Tricross, 28mm tires, clip-ons |
U48 | 2013-07-18 | 30:47 | Tricross, 28mm tires, clip-ons |
W/C July 21stA year on, 2nd 2-up for me and Kev, same course ...... another 26:00 :facepalm:
Sat: Long steady ride
Sun: See above
Thu: First ever 2-up!
I was head-hunted by someone about 90secs slower than me. Kev's first 2-up too, but he had never even ridden in a chain-gang type setup, so I had a lot of explaining/bull$h1tting to do on the ride over, and didn't have high hopes for our team.
It wasn't the smoothest TTT ever, but we did more right than wrong. My PB on that course is high 27summat, and Kev normally does 27:30 on club courses, so 26:00 (http://ridewithgps.com/trips/805056) seemed like a decent time in the circumstances. Kev did far too much work in the first 5 miles, and - still being cautious after the weekend - I didn't reciprocate; until 6 miles, at which point I rode almost all the way back on the front.
Winning team: 22:41 - Fastest solo 22:54
Did my only TT for the year, the 25 mile Exeter Wheelers
I improved on last year and achieved my two aims of not coming last and getting a better time than when I did this event last year.
I did 1h04s27 and came second from last!! Hurrah for me ;D ;D ;D
My friend Sharon of the WSW apparently got first lady.
It was bloody windy up in Norfolk so if you guys had the same she'll have had to be working extra hard for that.
First ever Hill Climb yesterday, up Hinton Hill Course UH90, 2 miles east of Pucklechurch.Just for a laugh, I timed myself up this hill yesterday. 4:18 from edge of the car park to the topmost road sign, pedestrians and horses - that was from a rolling start, maybe if I train hard, make a real effort and take the saddlebag off, I'll get it down to 4:17. ;)
Hill is measured at 0.8km in distance and at a 1 in 7 gradient.
Rode in time of 3:06 which I was happy with. Winners time was 1:51 :o
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee253/ianrsparrow/DSC05216.jpg)
Photo taken by Mrs Dinamo at the final bend on hill, where a small crowd was cheering each rider as they passed.
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/UH90-Hinton-hill-climb (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/UH90-Hinton-hill-climb)
Have no idea what any of these courses are like so might have to go and hunt down reports of them somewhere.The J2/9 has changed since I started my racing career there in the late 1970s. However, the roads are flattish without being fast. There's a dip at Badger Bank on the A535 (done twice, by the look of it), and a smaller one south of there at Jodrell Bank (yes, that one), done once. The biggest hill on the A537 is the railway bridge at Chelford. This circuit, or one very similar, used to be the finishing circuit of the Manchester and District 12, so shouldn't be too hard! Both dips can just be sprinted if you're fit.
Gutted the men have got that 10 course whilst we are stuck down in Alcester.you'd only moan about the inconvenience of travelling to far-flung races.
And between Macclesfield and Northwich isn't quite as nice as the Lake District but will make do with that.
Heading back to Lincs for the Scunthorpe RC 10 on Saturday and the LRRA 25 on Sunday. Haven't ridden those distances for 20 years so I'm not sure I'll be able to wring myself out properly. It's all a learning experience.
Struggled both days to get my HR high enough. This may just come with experience.Are you warming up sufficiently? Ideally you'd manage a few seconds at target effort level. But you do need a lot of time to do this properly.
Struggled both days to get my HR high enough. This may just come with experience.Are you warming up sufficiently? Ideally you'd manage a few seconds at target effort level. But you do need a lot of time to do this properly.
It's a nice problem to have - more common is going too high in the first 4 miles ...
It could be, but for some reason it isn't.It isn't what?!?
It isn't what?!?
... one of the most inclusive forms of cycling there is...
There was no flashy sponsorship or anything remotely commercial about it. No one-upmanship on bikes or kit (full aero bikes, and borrowed from garage specials did not seem to matter).
I do know people like Matt and other DPCCers, so that is how I found out about the TT event. But I'd agree that if events were better advertised, there might be more takers.If you want proper advertising, the entry fees would have to pay for it.
The magazines will probably never really push it. Their agenda is to sell stuff, and get advertising space, and the Sportif rider is what they aim at. Most of us here probably know that you can race on a very modest bike, and that have the latest kit probably does not make such a huge difference.
Our club's first TT of the year on Sunday morning. A 3-lap hilly TT around Long Hanborough for which I was doing the signage and timekeeping. Everyone wants lap times of course, and some riders are coming through on their second laps when the last rider of the field has barely got off the line. Starting my season's timekeeping off with an event that's ten times more difficult to time than a standard out-and-back 10 or 25 when I've yet to get my stopwatch-fu under control is hard work. I had to have a lie down in the sunshine in the afternoon!
Oh and yes, a little circuit race like this (it's similar to the Harwell Hilly, I think, our lap was 7.9 miles) is ideal for anyone that wants to have a go, or just watch, we also had a couple of first-timers.
That's what I like about them too - although I've only ever done club 10s, not opens.Do people do TTs with mudguards and saddlebags? I sometimes fancy having a go at a short, local one - I fully expect the timekeeper to have gone home before I finish - but can't be arsed to take all that stuff off my bike.
It's just simple, unpretentious racing. Turn up on anything, give them four quid, roll to the start, and turn yourself inside out for ten miles. Nobody seems to care that I'm slow, or that I turned up on a cx/touring bike (I did take the rack off). Then get your time, come back next week and try to beat it.
Do people do TTs with mudguards and saddlebags?Yes, you could ask for an early start and leave your bag in the timekeeper's car or with a club mate.
to answer Matts question about why did I not try a TTActually that's not what I asked! :P
Inclusive? I think that grass roots/club level time trialling is less so than when I started in 1969. It was not unusual for impoverished teenagers to ride very basic machines. My first timetrial was on a Raleigh roadster frame with 27" wheels shoehorned in, 83" fixed and all steel equipment. I did 28:45. These days, at my local evening events there is more carbon than after a forest fire, many TT specific bikes, and the riders do not seem to be going much quicker than the fast men all those years ago. There is only one person who shows up with a steel framed bike - complete with mudguards. In my youth almost everybody cycled to local races, now all but a very small handful drive there which causes a problem for the organiser. Rose tinted spectacles perhaps.I'd agree with your observations. The bling quotient is bound to increase as cycling creeps further into the wealthier classes; and folks drive to ALL cycling events these days, local TTs may actually have less drivers!
Inclusion is a term used by people with disabilities and other disability rights advocates for the idea that all people should freely, openly and without pity accommodate any person with a disability without restrictions or limitations of any kind[citation needed].That seems to be about accommodating everyone - it's not about whether they actually turn up!
These days, at my local evening events there is more carbon than after a forest fire...I still say go along and try, and be prepared to try somewhere else if they look down at you for riding a wooden trainer bike. Cycling clubs are like everything else - they come in all shapes and sizes, and it doesn't necessarily follow that what you've seen at one will be what you see elsewhere. Some clubs are out and out racing teams, taking it very seriously.
But there's no point in complaining that you went along to Chelsea and they looked funny at you when you stood their in old trainers and asked if you could have a kick about. You probably couldn't even do that with the first team of your local club.The beauty of the time-trial is that it's nothing like trying to play football with Pelé : it doesn't matter if the winner takes half the time of the slowest :thumbsup:
The beauty of the time-trial is that it's nothing like trying to play football with Pelé : it doesn't matter if the winner takes half the time of the slowest :thumbsup:The beauty of the time trial is that, being the slowest, I get twice the riding-time value for my £2 that the winner does :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Amen to that!The beauty of the time-trial is that it's nothing like trying to play football with Pelé : it doesn't matter if the winner takes half the time of the slowest :thumbsup:The beauty of the time trial is that, being the slowest, I get twice the riding-time value for my £2 that the winner does :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Long Hanborough is not a million miles from Abingdon. Which club do that TT? Actually more to the point is there a good website for finding what is on locally. I'm hoping to do a few more with the familyOranj is with Club Orange: http://www.ocrc.co.uk/timetrials/TTProgram.asp
CTT online calendar - just had a look at it, found some of the TTs I often see going up and down the A38, and one of them (U17) contains this gem of a description. "The finish is at the second drain cover past Catherine Villa (white house next to garage) " I love the idea of marshalls and riders counting drain covers!
CTT online calendar -It sounds as if you are looking at "open" events, typically £9 to enter with restrictions by closing date, affiliated club membership etc. For a beginner or an experiment I think you should look at "club" events usually listed on your local club websites. You will probably be permitted to ride as a guest, these are typically £2 which is mainly the CTT levy.
" I love the idea of marshalls and riders counting drain covers!
I think it was actually a different event on the same course I was looking at, but good luck with your organising!CTT online calendar - just had a look at it, found some of the TTs I often see going up and down the A38, and one of them (U17) contains this gem of a description. "The finish is at the second drain cover past Catherine Villa (white house next to garage) " I love the idea of marshalls and riders counting drain covers!
That's my first event as organiser this year - unfortunately due to the arcane CTT rules, you're too late to enter for this Saturday ;)
In one club's sporting 10 series that I rode, there was a rider on a hand-cycle. Pretty respectable times too. Those hills must have hurt...I was reminded, while riding home from our first club 10 of the season tonight - we've also had members racing each other on Bromptons ;D
I've now put my name down to enter a 100 mile TT in late May - but as mentioned below, I will do some of the Westerley CC Hillingdon TTs on Wednesday nights as those kick off soon.
That's what I like about them too - although I've only ever done club 10s, not opens.Do people do TTs with mudguards and saddlebags? I sometimes fancy having a go at a short, local one - I fully expect the timekeeper to have gone home before I finish - but can't be arsed to take all that stuff off my bike.
It's just simple, unpretentious racing. Turn up on anything, give them four quid, roll to the start, and turn yourself inside out for ten miles. Nobody seems to care that I'm slow, or that I turned up on a cx/touring bike (I did take the rack off). Then get your time, come back next week and try to beat it.
I've now put my name down to enter a 100 mile TT in late May - but as mentioned below, I will do some of the Westerley CC Hillingdon TTs on Wednesday nights as those kick off soon.
Look forward to seeing you tomorrow, Marcus!
In case anyone else in the vicinity of West London fancies it, our fortnightly evening TTs at Hillingdon circuit start tomorrow (Wednesday 9 April). The weather forecast looks pretty good for the first one and there are spaces left.
In addition to the main series, we're trying something new this year, which is three time trials for road bikes only. They are on 4 June, 29 June and 26 July - with men's and women's prizes for each one. All are 11 laps of the circuit which works out to about 10.35 miles.
Full details are here:
www.westerley-cycling.org.uk/racing/time-trials/hillingdon-evening-time-trial-series-2013 (http://www.westerley-cycling.org.uk/racing/time-trials/hillingdon-evening-time-trial-series-2013)
Thanks Matt! Round 2, the American wedding, coming up this weekend.
Back on topic - the Richmond park TTs are now open for entry - a great event that has aero and road bike categories - dates don't work for me this year, but they are a lot of fun (and no cars etc.) and a good intro to TT in my very limited experience. Not a flat course mind - it is a long old slog up sawyers and then back up from ham gate to richmond gate.
http://www.riderhq.com/events/67526/richmond-park-tt-1/enter
http://www.riderhq.com/events/67527/richmond-park-tt-2/enter
Last weekend brought my (very) last BUCS event: the 25 on the H25/17 near Oxford. My work affiliation to KCL is just about strong enough to let me ride BUCS for this year only; I was hoping to go out on a high, especially after the disaster that was the hillclimb.
Well, it wasn't perfect but ... I did it. My ride and my prep could both have been better but I did 58.29 to place 39/102nd male on a windy day, and grab myself a 14 second PB in the process. I think I can leave student sport with my head held high after that.
12.5 min improvement to PB with 4:45:16.
Splits tell the story 2:16 & 2:29. I was chasing an ambitious 4:30 schedule early on and paid for it.
Need to find somewhere to fit a 3rd bottle or persuade a helper to come out next time.
I did the North Norfolk Wheelers as well. I found it very hard. I'm not sure if it was the heat, the hilly course or my legs - I suspect it was mainly the latter - but I missed my target time by a fair way and ended up sitting up for much of the last lap as it seemed to be quicker that way!
If I were you, Rob, rather than stopping, I'd find a way to carry more water on your bike. I had 2.75 litres of drink (2 x 1 litre + 1 x 0.75 bottles) and had drunk another 0.75l bottle in the 20 mins before the start. I was still dehydrated at the end with almost twice as much to drink as you.
The way I do it is to have two bottles in a carrier behind the saddle and a horizontal cage mounted on my top cap. I could fit another cage on the down-tube - and probably will if I'm doing a 12 / 24 unsupported - so I'll be able to take 4 litres.
a bottle between the bars (which you can hardly see in this shot):
Amazing conditions, the sort you only get once in every 10 years for a 100-mile TT. 3:56:10 is a lifetime PB for me and a new club record.
What's a RiP TT?
I wonder whether this'll be a one-off event though? It very much arose from a TT forum discussion and Newbury RC agreed to take it on. I guess with the distances that people rode maybe it'll catch on next year. An early 12 and a later 24 make good prep for PBP.
Those roads were *very* rough in places, and looking at the data I realise we covered quite a bit of climbing for a TT (I have quite a few older ones for comparison but these are the ones recorded on my newer Edge 500).
Newbury RC 12 = 2352m
Kent CA 12 = 575m
(Most of the older data I have are from a Polar cycle computer and indicate around 1300-1800m is typical for a 12-hour). Still fast roads though.
Newbury 12 mileages updated this morning. Mine's down to 258.59 (which is what I thought it'd be after I'd worked out my lap distances and added my finish effort), and Frank's is 264.06.
21:20 today for me, on the V718. That's a new PB on a windy day, so I should really be very pleased. However, my clubmate beat me by 11 seconds so I'm still asking the what ifs; like most testers I'm never satisfied!
Nice result! I'm on there next week, I now have a target :demon:
Chuffing hard on the E2 today. 2 mins slower than last weekend. 36 mins out and 26 mins back. Only a couple under the hour when I left so probably a better ride than I thought.
I spent 4hrs in the car for an hour of threshold work (ignoring the warm up) which I could have done in the garage. I don't really want to DNS events for no good reason, but I'm not sure I got back into TTing to drive up and down the country chasing fast times. I've changed my schedule a bit for the rest of the year to stay closer to home apart from the 12hr and 100.Wise words.
I spent 4hrs in the car for an hour of threshold work (ignoring the warm up) which I could have done in the garage. I don't really want to DNS events for no good reason, but I'm not sure I got back into TTing to drive up and down the country chasing fast times. I've changed my schedule a bit for the rest of the year to stay closer to home apart from the 12hr and 100.Wise words.
"driving 4 hours to get a fast time" seems to be Testers Disease. I have zero interest in that path! Having said that, us middle-markers do have a dilemma; if you're nowhere near the podium,, PB-chasing is the only easily-measured objective. And thus fast courses ...
Wow, good distance Rob!
I was using your ride to convince myself I could get under the hour on the right day.....
Somehow the 'slow trike' won the VTTA tandem Championship ...
Very happy with 207miles. Only 14 miles less than the last mixed TT 12 I did which was 20 years ago on a better course.
.............. Only 14 miles less than the last mixed TT 12 I did which was 20 years ago on a better course..... ;DAnd carrying somewhat less avoirdupois!! (And no, that's not a reference to your stoker :facepalm: ) Seriously, a champion effort, the pair of you. ;D
192.5 miles. Short of the 200 I'd hoped for. There were some temporary traffic lights in Usk which caused issues so they sent us up to Hereford again after I'd done one loop of the Chainbridge circuit. This caused unsupported riders a lot of issues. Some phone calls to sort out where I'd be so Feline could find me. And the RTA right in front of me which cost me some time offering to be a witness. Fortunately the biker was unhurt as he managed to avoid everything except the corner of the front bumper of the car that pulled out on him.
Really bad patch between about 9 and 11 hours. Last hour or so I perked up again.
I'm impressed at those entering a 100 the weekend after a 12hr.
I couldn't help sniggering when I saw Hoppo's post on FB/Strava/Garmin about a "99.7mile" TT yesterday.
(Was that the Stockton one Pharti? )
Rob,
I think riding 10s would help a lot! You're doing things back to front - typical AUK - most folks ride loads of 10s (usually mid-week locals) plus a few longer rides at the weekends!! (Mostly 25s. The numbers who ride a 12 is tiny).
you do "proper" interval training, doncha? If you're doing (e.g.) any 20min intervals, you know you could ride a 10 at pretty close to that level. And ride 25miles a tad lower again. Could you keep up your interval level for a whole hour?!?
We had flat calm conditions early on, as did the rest of the country it seems
We had flat calm conditions early on, as did the rest of the country it seems
It seems you're right: our club 10 record fell at the weekend too, to one of our juniors riding on Hull. It was a fast weekend all round!
We had flat calm conditions early on, as did the rest of the country it seems
It seems you're right: our club 10 record fell at the weekend too, to one of our juniors riding on Hull. It was a fast weekend all round!
Not on Saturday afternoon in the Fens it wasn't.......
We had flat calm conditions early on, as did the rest of the country it seems
It seems you're right: our club 10 record fell at the weekend too, to one of our juniors riding on Hull. It was a fast weekend all round!
Yup. My old tandem partner Mark Jones won that event with the second fastest 10 of the year. Eleven riders under 19 minutes - that's some going.
well I'm no expert, but I still can't see anything wrong with your approach ;PRob,
I think riding 10s would help a lot! You're doing things back to front - typical AUK - most folks ride loads of 10s (usually mid-week locals) plus a few longer rides at the weekends!! (Mostly 25s. The numbers who ride a 12 is tiny).
you do "proper" interval training, doncha? If you're doing (e.g.) any 20min intervals, you know you could ride a 10 at pretty close to that level. And ride 25miles a tad lower again. Could you keep up your interval level for a whole hour?!?
Actually that's exactly what I do, pacing using an HRM and levels from a ramp test.
My max HR is 200 and my threshold HR is 172. I do 2*20 intervals at 174-175 with 5 mins rest so race 10s at 175-180 and 25s at 170 for the first half and 175+ for the second. On Saturday I was running a lot higher from, I assume, the heat. Didn't feel spent, though.
The local evening 10s start too early and I can't get back from town early enough. I'll enter more opens next year when I'll be off the audax trail and more focussed on training.
The Tour de France just got demoted to being tomorrow's second most interesting race.
A clubmate has entered the Team Swift 12h. This clubmate is currently 1 mph faster than me on average over 50 and 100 miles. My 100 time won't get improved but I screwed up my 50, so could possibly claim a mile an hour back there (cue frantic scrabbling for fast courses on weekends I can spare). I then need to ride 1 mph faster than him in a twelve hour. I've entered the national on August 23rd on the Mersey course; if he does a good distance tomorrow then I'm stuffed, otherwise you might see me riding a very specific schedule on the 23rd.
I also may be giving up beer for the next month :-[
Doing my first club 10 tonight (Newcastle 2001 on the A522 Tean-Uttoxeter course) since 2010! ;D I haven't even ridden 10 miles in one go for three years, my cardiac fitness is pretty good from running, but cycling uses completely different muscle groups, doesn't it? Really very little idea what I'm going to do - somewhere between 24 and 28 minutes, I guess...
The first and last quarters were okay, the second was strongly windy (which I didn't appreciate on singlespeed - more on that later) and the third was rainy.
I got 17th place with 259.48 miles. The winner, Rob Townsend from Team Swift, did 292. Again, more when I've had some sleep.
We were lucky with ... masses of traffic on the middle A14 section.Great riding, Howard. :thumbsup:
If a higher-than-permitted traffic count is observed, is the event called off? Or does it just affect 'future events?' ???I've never known an event to be called off when in progress because of excessive traffic levels, though. :-\
Are the permitted traffic counts really adhered to on these DC courses? If a higher-than-permitted traffic count is observed, is the event called off? Or does it just affect 'future events?' ???
It has been said that the E2 may only be there for another season. The reason , I understand, is the completion of the dual carriage way up to Norwich. So Norfolk now sort of has a motorway.
It has been said that the E2 may only be there for another season. The reason , I understand, is the completion of the dual carriage way up to Norwich. So Norfolk now sort of has a motorway.The A11 dualling has reduced journey times by increasing the average speed over the journey not by reducing the stops and slow downs but by increasing the moving speed. The 5 ways roundabout at Barton Mills is a major accident blackspot (http://www.elystandard.co.uk/news/motorcyclist_20_is_named_by_raf_lakenheath_as_airman_1st_class_darren_phillips_1_4257820). Locals reckon part of the issue is that a relatively high proportion of the traffic is US servicemen unused to UK road conditions, crossing on the A1101 from BSE to the bases.
It has been said that the E2 may only be there for another season. The reason , I understand, is the completion of the dual carriage way up to Norwich. So Norfolk now sort of has a motorway.The A11 dualling has reduced journey times by increasing the average speed over the journey not by reducing the stops and slow downs but by increasing the moving speed. The 5 ways roundabout at Barton Mills is a major accident blackspot (http://www.elystandard.co.uk/news/motorcyclist_20_is_named_by_raf_lakenheath_as_airman_1st_class_darren_phillips_1_4257820). Locals reckon part of the issue is that a relatively high proportion of the traffic is US servicemen unused to UK road conditions, crossing on the A1101 from BSE to the bases.
I wouldn't want to ride on it except maybe stupidly early in the morning.
It has been said that the E2 may only be there for another season. The reason , I understand, is the completion of the dual carriage way up to Norwich. So Norfolk now sort of has a motorway.
Hopefully doing the ECCA 50 and the Shaftesbury middlemarkers 25 (only one I can get into) next year. The 100 is the weekend after my planned 12hr so doesn't fit that well.
It has been said that the E2 may only be there for another season. The reason , I understand, is the completion of the dual carriage way up to Norwich. So Norfolk now sort of has a motorway.
Hopefully doing the ECCA 50 and the Shaftesbury middlemarkers 25 (only one I can get into) next year. The 100 is the weekend after my planned 12hr so doesn't fit that well.
Aah so you're planning to do the Newbury 12? See you there. We just need to get Oranj riding and we can incorporate a yacf 12 hour championship into the event ;D
If we don't tell LadyC I'll be a shoo-in for the Ladies ;)It has been said that the E2 may only be there for another season. The reason , I understand, is the completion of the dual carriage way up to Norwich. So Norfolk now sort of has a motorway.
Hopefully doing the ECCA 50 and the Shaftesbury middlemarkers 25 (only one I can get into) next year. The 100 is the weekend after my planned 12hr so doesn't fit that well.
Aah so you're planning to do the Newbury 12? See you there. We just need to get Oranj riding and we can incorporate a yacf 12 hour championship into the event ;D
Fast morning on the B100/4 and brought my PB down to 4:10:13. Properly stuffed now as I can never sleep the night before a race.
So I'm doing a 12 hour on Sunday.
weather forecast (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcqj6fxgr#?fcTime=1440288000)
This could be horrible.
Just fit some mudguards. Frank9755 reckons they're faster anyway https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=92491.msg1904198#msg1904198 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=92491.msg1904198#msg1904198) :facepalm:
I'm 40th
Frank9755 is 68th.
Hippy, if he's still round here, is 20th.
The club hillclimb is this weekend. I've been in full beer and pie mode ever since the BBAR finished but I'll do it, just for the lolz. Oh yes, and because we have the mother of all cafe stops afterwards 8)
Two doping violations. On the steroids case, the attempted defence was just ludicrous.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/banned-cyclist-hastings-cites-borrowed-used-syringe-as-reason-for-failed-steroids-test-203455
The other case is a junior who was caught in possession of EPO:
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/junior-time-trial-champion-gabriel-evans-admits-epo-use-203450
Another doping ban (http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=104418)
I raced against Rob a couple of times last year: in the national 12 (which he won) and in an end of season 50. He'll be DQ'd from the 50 but I think he gets to keep his 12 hour champion's medal, which he won two weeks before the adverse finding.
I'm 40th
Frank9755 is 68th.
Hippy, if he's still round here, is 20th.
Well done, Stu - fabulous ride!
I remember a few years ago, after a TT on the Amersham Road, I think you had just gone under the hour for the first time, and you came back into the HQ and said that you were pleased as it meant you didn't have to do a 25 again - so I expect you'll be back going for 45 minutes in a year or two!
I'm lying pretty low with a hurty knee as well but I'm going back to the H8 on Saturday for a 25. Not expecting much but sometimes that is the best way.
I'll have another go at Bentley but for the 50mi in May.
I'll have another go at Bentley but for the 50mi in May.I entered that one yesterday. You decided against the F1B then ?
Good ride, Rob. Saw your time on the board at the end but didn't spot you down there. Not to be today, but it looks like 2 hours is within your sights, if you want to chase it.
I think I'll declare my TT season closed after today. I sat up after 12 miles as my knee, which has been a problem for 6 months, started to twinge. It was fine when I sat up, it's just the extra stretch from leaning right forward pulls something a bit too tight. I was going to pedal back to the HQ but then I thought it was a lovely day and I was out in the country, so why not go for a bike ride! So I got my 50 miles in mostly on some very pretty lanes I'd never been on before - including a ford (which I was able to walk round). Looked a bit daft with aero hat, disc and a number on my back - and would have looked a lot dafter if I'd punctured as I had no pump, phone or money - but I had a good ride and felt a lot better than if I'd just limped straight back.
I've got too many other rides planned to have much chance of getting my TT position / knee sorted out so I think I'll just focus on other stuff to reduce the risk of things flaring up in a bad way.
C'mom Hippy,
That's only 10 seconds faster than two tourists did on a long barrow in the mists of pre-history to set a club record.
Maybe its time you switched to 3 wheels.........
Dare you to ride the Tandem 30 on the E2 on it.........
Let me focus on breaking all the solo records first (while trying to train for TCR!) and I'll worry about your crazy contraption records later.
Oh dear, I've joined the dark side
I organised my first club TT yesterday.
I'm fortunate in that we have a club who pitch in and help out so the organiser organises rather than organises and does everything. My sign ninjas are excellent and the marshalling crew are top notch.Oh dear, I've joined the dark side
I organised my first club TT yesterday.
I ran my first club TT this morning. Hard work and more stressful than riding the thing. Additional respect and gratitude gained for all who do this.
Well, I just entered my first 10mile TT on 4 June at Seaford on the c10/10 course. Looks pretty flat and at 57 I just need to get under 27 minutes to get my standard award.
Can I warm up by riding around the other roads into sleaford as I only have a big turbo or is that frowned upon?
Anything else I should know? Is there a strange handshake or something?
Anybody else going to be there?
Well, I just entered my first 10mile TT on 4 June at Seaford on the c10/10 course. Looks pretty flat and at 57 I just need to get under 27 minutes to get my standard award.
Can I warm up by riding around the other roads into sleaford as I only have a big turbo or is that frowned upon?
Anything else I should know? Is there a strange handshake or something?
Anybody else going to be there?
No. Warning cycle event signs.is that a Scottish requirement?
No. Warning cycle event signs.is that a Scottish requirement?
We have them for Opens (at every major* junction), but not Club events - except at the start, and they're no trouble for the "start team" to pick up straight away. (n.b. I'm no TT rules guru - in England or anywhere else! I just do whatever job I'm given.)
*or something
What do people do about drinking in the longer events? water bottle in a cage and reach down or something on the tri bars?
Thanks, that was what i was thinking but DC rainmakers review of BTA systems suggested a significant increase in resistance.
Bladder might work for 50 or 100 but I'd not want to carry it on 12 or above since you can't refill on the go.Just use a second (or even third) bladder, prefilled. They slide much easier into the camelbak if you wrap them in an old plastic bag from sliced bread.
Thanks, this is reassuring. I had been planning to take the basics, but didn't want to get laughed off the course for my curious audax ways....Oh I never said that noone laughs at us :P But you're obeying the rules, so they can laugh all they like.
I've got my first attempt at a 10 TT on Sunday. I'm guessing I probably don't need a route sheet or spare batteries for my spare light, but I don't really know what to take, if anything. Do folks bother with tubes and pump? Water?
Cheers
I carry nothing.
The walk back to the HQ is almost enough time for the rage to subside when something goes wrong.
I've got my first attempt at a 10 TT on Sunday. I'm guessing I probably don't need a route sheet or spare batteries for my spare light, but I don't really know what to take, if anything. Do folks bother with tubes and pump? Water?
Cheers
It was a lot faster today than last week apparently, a climate who PB'd last week improved again today by 4 minutes!
Given the fun and games over TT's in Scotland, does anyone know if Cycling UK/British Cycling/Triathlon UK personal membership gives third party covere for competitive events not organised by that particular organisation? We are looking to run some CTT events and before taking the plunge I want to ensure that current memberships will give appropriate insurance protection.
I went off a bit fast anodised up a bit too much energy on the first hill ...That would have been very fashionable 20 years ago! Purple?
Newbury 12 hour start sheet (http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=111534)
This is one of the two 'fast' twelves on the calendar. Several entrants look interesting:
Mark and Jane on the tandem trike.
Jasmijn Muller: She's currently sixth in the all-time women's list, after a ride on a slower course on a windy and rainy day last year. She's also looking to break the LEJOG record this year.
Scratch rider is Adam Topham, looking to defend his BBAR. One minute in front of him, doing what must be a short distance for him after he gave up 12s when he discovered 24s, is the one and only Mr Teethgrinder Abraham. Good luck TG!
Jasmijn Muller: She's currently sixth in the all-time women's list, after a ride on a slower course on a windy and rainy day last year. She's also looking to break the LEJOG record this year.I thought she was targeting the 24 this year and LEJOG next year?
Jasmijn Muller: She's currently sixth in the all-time women's list, after a ride on a slower course on a windy and rainy day last year. She's also looking to break the LEJOG record this year.I thought she was targeting the 24 this year and LEJOG next year?
Is there a course map for the Newbury 12h if a localish guy wanted to come out and cheer some people on? I need an excuse to get out for some miles. but that only works if I can fit it round my church service.
Maybe everyone is saving up for the Breckland comp record course later in the year? In my case, I've raced two 12s on that course and don't really fancy going back for another.
I like it because it was the first 12hr that came before the 24hr so I could finally get my club record (2nd place to Tops and faster than Dr Hutch who literally wrote the book 'Faster' #boastpost) instead of being shelled and racing it 3 weeks after the 24hr.
Maybe everyone is saving up for the Breckland comp record course later in the year? In my case, I've raced two 12s on that course and don't really fancy going back for another.
I like it because it was the first 12hr that came before the 24hr so I could finally get my club record (2nd place to Tops and faster than Dr Hutch who literally wrote the book 'Faster' #boastpost) instead of being shelled and racing it 3 weeks after the 24hr.
Good point. I'm hoping to do the Breckland. It's 6 weeks after the 24hr. Hope my 258 mile PB gets me in.
Maybe everyone is saving up for the Breckland comp record course later in the year? In my case, I've raced two 12s on that course and don't really fancy going back for another.
I like it because it was the first 12hr that came before the 24hr so I could finally get my club record (2nd place to Tops and faster than Dr Hutch who literally wrote the book 'Faster' #boastpost) instead of being shelled and racing it 3 weeks after the 24hr.
Good point. I'm hoping to do the Breckland. It's 6 weeks after the 24hr. Hope my 258 mile PB gets me in.
Surely it won't be a full field will it? Not entering the Newbury I have all my eggs in one basket now...
The E2/100C? That's full because it's smaller numbers and faster than usual course I think.
Yeah, I went from a short 55 to a 50:02 when I rode the E2 earlier in the year.
I'd done near 30mph on their 30 course in super conditions last year so expected a decent improvement.
My 100 PB is another that's relatively slow so I'd like to improve that below 3:45 if possible.
I'll need to learn the course though. I'm a shocker when it comes to directions, especially under duress.
The E2/100C? That's full because it's smaller numbers and faster than usual course I think.
Yeah. My PB is 4:10 and the organiser assured me I'd get in easily. Then they changed the course to a faster version and more people entered. It cut off on a 4:15 in the end so I was only just in.
I have the Kent 100 this weekend and will take next week easy in preparation. Given I took 5 mins off my 25 time on the E2 on Saturday I'm hoping to get another good day.
The E2/100C? That's full because it's smaller numbers and faster than usual course I think.
Yeah. My PB is 4:10 and the organiser assured me I'd get in easily. Then they changed the course to a faster version and more people entered. It cut off on a 4:15 in the end so I was only just in.
I have the Kent 100 this weekend and will take next week easy in preparation. Given I took 5 mins off my 25 time on the E2 on Saturday I'm hoping to get another good day.
Is that the ECCA 100 that they wouldn't let me ride? :'(
Not that I'm surprised. I don't think I could manage 4:10 for a 100. My best 25 is 1:03 (in 1993)
So I'll be sulking near Cirencester on another 100. Not all bad news though. I'm guaranteed a PB as long as I finish as it'll be my first 100. :smug:
I'm sure I've got my BBAR certs when I've done the distances. Do you go to Champs Nights?
I think the Tan Hill 600 might've taken a bit too much out of me. I hope I've not ruined a chance at my club record with the ECCA. Maybe I should enter the National 100? Closes soon I think.
I did the EDCA100 in Norfolk last year. Pretty fast all DC course. It's a week later than the National so an extra week of recovery ?
I may do it this year if the this weekend doesn't go well. The only issue is it's a week before the 24.
I did the EDCA100 in Norfolk last year. Pretty fast all DC course. It's a week later than the National so an extra week of recovery ?
I may do it this year if the this weekend doesn't go well. The only issue is it's a week before the 24.
I did the EDCA100 in Norfolk last year. Pretty fast all DC course. It's a week later than the National so an extra week of recovery ?
I may do it this year if the this weekend doesn't go well. The only issue is it's a week before the 24.
I would be happy to do a 100 the week before a 24. But not the other way round!
I have a couple of chances to ride a 50 prior to the 24. The one near me I know but I'm not a massive fan of the course.
There's a W London event on the H50/1a on the 10th July. Can anyone comment on the course and how it might compare to, say, the H50/8 that the Charlotteville use ?
Thanks
Rob
I have a couple of chances to ride a 50 prior to the 24. The one near me I know but I'm not a massive fan of the course.
There's a W London event on the H50/1a on the 10th July. Can anyone comment on the course and how it might compare to, say, the H50/8 that the Charlotteville use ?
Thanks
Rob
I had my 25 PB on that road. It's 'lumpy' (yes yes relative term) but from memory the surface is much better than H50/8 - lengthways ruts as opposed to sideways.
Not super fast but if it's easy to get to it could be ok. Better than not doing a 50, I guess.
Well done, both of you - a good PB, and a club record with one good leg! I didn't enter this year so it was bound to have been less windy than usual.
Numbness sounds a bit worrying, though - do you get it on normal rides or just racing in TT position?
...
might be nerve based.
Spent £££ trying to work out the problem. Basically I think I'm just crushing something when I'm in the TT position.
Yeah, but the weird thing was I could ride 100mi, 12hr and 24hr TTs with no issue. The numb leg only appeared during 25s and 50s which seems to counter the 'ride far enough with something squashed and it'll go numb' thinking.
Yesterday's 100 was different. I've been doing these magic stretches so perhaps they've sorted one issue and caused another or perhaps the 600 the week before did some damage and it was compounded by the 100mi TT? Hard to tell. It's annoying, riding faster because more aero and then throwing a chunk of the advantage away because the human body is too feeble for my needs..
Sounds like its related to effort / power, rather than distance / time.
Your power has presumably gone up a good bit (unless its all aeroz) - are you riding 100s now at the level that you were riding 50s a couple of years ago - with the side effects to prove it?
BTW thinking about next year and looking at hippy's comments. My position was set up after a bike fit a couple of years ago and subsequently tweaked. I have played with the things that I think will make me more aero, based on looking at other riders, but not a lot else.
I have looked at aerocoach and could feasibly shell out on a session with them, but what has everyone else done ?
Nope, that's the thing, I'm faster because faster course + more aero.
My power was about 5W down on my previous 100mi PB but that's kind of to be expected when I spent so much time sitting up not pedaling!
That theory is wrong then! When you get it sorted and pedal for the full hundred you'll get a bloody fast time - but I suppose you know that.
5W down is a good recovery from a hilly 600 the weekend before; I thought you migh struggle to get record given that. I did the ECCA last year a week after the Newbury 12 hour and found out I'd not recovered anything like enough.
When you have got all the club TT records there are two longbarrows that you would fit on.
Depending on who is driving.
Dare you to give it a go......
No need to go to Hull for your record surely - you can just ride out to the Amersham road and give it a blast!
after all you already have a trikie beard :thumbsup:
I can already hear the pawls pinging out of the freewheel. ;)
Best blokes longbarrow 10 I ever did was 20:30.
Best blokes longbarrow 10 I ever did was 20:30.I'm sure it's no mean feat to get one of those things round a roundabout at 30mph. I reckon you could sell a few tickets if the two of you give it shot!
I'm off on a 10 spot! (http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=112194)
Admittedly, given my PB (1:58), the organiser has probably split the field, which makes me one of the fastest riders in the bottom half. Oh well.
Provisional Nat 12 results (http://www.juniortourofwales.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/National-12-2016-Provisional-Result.pdf)
Congratulations Teethgrinder on 22nd place with 241.2 miles!
Provisional Nat 12 results (http://www.juniortourofwales.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/National-12-2016-Provisional-Result.pdf)
Congratulations Teethgrinder on 22nd place with 241.2 miles!
Looked like a tough day so over evens is a good day out. Saw Jonah on the start list but can't see him on there - DNS/DNF ?
Not being funny, but what's the point of drug testing someone in 20th place?!
If they can't test everyone, it should be the top 10 in a hat and test from that pot.
Not being funny, but what's the point of drug testing someone in 20th place?!Because it's still cheating if you're only 20th, and the guy/gal in 21st would be unhappy to lose to a cheat.
If they can't test everyone, it should be the top 10 in a hat and test from that pot.
[I am no expert, that's just one aspect.]
Yes, but guys coming in 20th are less likely to be cheating, or at least cheating effectively, given the fact they're finishing 20th.
Also a cheating 20th only cheats those below them out of a place whereas someone who cheats and wins, cheats everyone out of a place.
Basically, I'm paying for tests to be done, so I want the guys who are more likely to be cheating to be tested first.
The A11 has a lot of variety:
- pan-flat noisy concrete &
- pan-flat very noisy concrete.
The A11 has a lot of variety:
- pan-flat noisy concrete &
- pan-flat very noisy concrete.
You had me at "pan-flat".
Jonah is DNS
I should add that the A11 climbs mostly very gradually (unlike the A31) so you can sit there at a steady pace slowly reeling in the view to the next roundabout....
Although I was slightly sworn off long distance TTs I am very tempted to give it a go, maybe I'll ride the EDCA 100 as a trial.
My 2:00:51 PB is annoying me so I need another go at a 50 this year.
My TT season so far:
Opens
10: Haven't done one yet. I'm riding the V next week, let's hope it goes well.
25: 56:59 (somewhere in the upper end of the bottom half of the field)
50: 2:03:54 (24/54 with another 51 DNS/DNF! As you might guess, the weather wasn't great.)
100: 4:14:33 (70th in the national champs field)
Club events: 3rd, 4th and 9th. The 4th was this Thursday, I dropped my chain on the steepest hill and was then 20 seconds behind 3rd. Doh!
Oh dear, I'm so much less fit this year than last year. I'm basically just doing an event at each distance to keep my qualifying times up to date. I've now got to decide what to do at the end of the season: do I do the BDCA 100 or the Breckland 12?
I came 7th in the National 12hr on the E course with 270-odd, 3 weeks after doing a fair bit of damage to myself in the 24hr.
I've since done a 293mi 12hr 'before' the 24hr at Newbury, with less windy conditions. Depending on how much you tear yourself apart during the 24hr, 6 weeks is probably quite a good gap to have.
Start back on the bike doing VERY VERY easy stuff the day after and after a week or two try a longer ride. Maybe hit the turbo at week three for some sharpening.
It looks like you've had some real life to deal with and your times are still way above the average clubman so I wouldn't be too upset. If I were you I'd do the 12hr to get a BBAR ranking for the year.
I still have a 12 to do but not sure I'll bother if I finish the TCR.
Hippy,
Time for some longbarrow fun?
E2/10 & E2/30 coming up.
No WCC record for the 30 listed - although it should be 1:07.
Real Ale pub on the way back.......
What size gears do you prefer?
I have a 60 T ring somewhere......
Who is doing the Breckland 12hr ? I think me, cygnet and oranjh. Hippy and PPB said they might. Anyone else ?
Rob
Who is doing the Breckland 12hr ? I think me, cygnet and oranjh. Hippy and PPB said they might. Anyone else ?
Rob
I have entered and will ride if my knee is OK. I packed in the 24 after 150 miles with knee pain as the 12 was more important and I didn't want to risk buggering up my knee for the rest of the year. I rode the Swaffham 200 last W/E as a test which seemed OK. I was hoping to do another long ride test this W/E but the weather doesn't look too inviting.
Who is doing the Breckland 12hr ? I think me, cygnet and oranjh. Hippy and PPB said they might. Anyone else ?
Who is doing the Breckland 12hr ? I think me, cygnet and oranjh. Hippy and PPB said they might. Anyone else ?
Yes I've entered. Any previous riders got any tips for supporters? It looks like there's a common over-bridge at the turn of both circuits, but I can't see how this works on the opening 70miles. Or is it a case of sticking an extra bottle cage on?
Our club BAR current standings have just been updated - my 25m is out of kilter with others (That'll be the one I did in bibs/long sleeve base layer/armwarmers after forgetting to pack properly) so it could do with updating. Is a week after the 12hr too soon? After the 24 I didn't want to ride for aaages.
Who is doing the Breckland 12hr ? I think me, cygnet and oranjh. Hippy and PPB said they might. Anyone else ?
Yes I've entered. Any previous riders got any tips for supporters? It looks like there's a common over-bridge at the turn of both circuits, but I can't see how this works on the opening 70miles. Or is it a case of sticking an extra bottle cage on?
Our club BAR current standings have just been updated - my 25m is out of kilter with others (That'll be the one I did in bibs/long sleeve base layer/armwarmers after forgetting to pack properly) so it could do with updating. Is a week after the 12hr too soon? After the 24 I didn't want to ride for aaages.
Cheers rob.
It looks like a bunfight to park near the Eccles Rd underpass. Will try and 'ride' the circuits and the finish lap on street view this weekend and keep an eye out for lay-bys.
There's a couple of potential options on the thetford circuit too I think.
Tempted to enter the V718 race that's in a couple more weeks.
urrr nurrr !Tempted to enter the V718 race that's in a couple more weeks.
I recommend a night out in Hull while you're up there.
I think I'm done with TTs for the year now.
Tempted to enter the V718 race that's in a couple more weeks.
Jeez, will my saddle sores have even healed by then? Can I really be bothered?
Harder to ride upwind and downwind legs with big speed difference on fixed?
Bad luck Cygnet. Try again next year?
Last event of the season today: a fast day on the T502 which massaged my ennui-filled legs that haven't done any training for a good while, into a new PB of 1:55:14. I didn't have my gimp socks and didn't tape the valve hole in my disc either, so just think what I could have done had I paid attention to those marginal gains! There were lots of 1:4x:xx times today; it seems that the organiser Doug had booked the good weather for his final event before he retires.
After first trying in 2012, I've now finally qualified for the BBAR - so long as no events get retroactively annulled this time. Today's result puts me on a speed of 23.652, which is a good chunk of a mile slower than last year, but at least today's ride allowed me to leapfrog Rob :demon:
After first trying in 2012, I've now finally qualified for the BBAR - so long as no events get retroactively annulled this time. Today's result puts me on a speed of 23.652, which is a good chunk of a mile slower than last year, but at least today's ride allowed me to leapfrog Rob :demon:/stupidquestion
Err, twelve years I think Rob?
Legs, you made me log into the TT Forum to see what all the fuss was about;
Can't dig back to where we last discussed Rob Townsend, but it transpires he was on EPO in 2015.This is quite old news, but also from a race in 2015:
I mean FFS this in domestic time trialling ?
Can't dig back to where we last discussed Rob Townsend, but it transpires he was on EPO in 2015.This is quite old news, but also from a race in 2015:
I mean FFS this in domestic time trialling ?
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/19-year-old-british-cyclist-handed-ban-taking-epo-255882
The junior 10-mile champion :facepalm:
Decided at the back end of last year I fancied doing a bit of TTing in 2017.
Yesterday I put my money where my mouth is and entered the Newbury 12hr and Mersey 24hr, ya know, just to keep a little bit of focus and motivation going. :thumbsup:
Also half a mind to do the Etwall 100 mile (and will do my clubs open 50 mile) so I have a BAR and long-distance BAR.
Do these long distance TTs fill up? Worth ticking the 'reserve' box on the CTT entry (online entry, yay! Bit different to my first few years of TTing)?
The Etwall (BDCA) 100 miler is the reliably fastest 100 event in the country, and as such it always fills. The other two reputed fast courses were the Cambridge and Teesside courses, but the Teesside isn't running this year so all the northerners will be trekking south to get their rides in - which means the BDCA is even more likely to fill. I think it usually closes on about four and a half hours.
The Etwall (BDCA) 100 miler is the reliably fastest 100 event in the country, and as such it always fills. The other two reputed fast courses were the Cambridge and Teesside courses, but the Teesside isn't running this year so all the northerners will be trekking south to get their rides in - which means the BDCA is even more likely to fill. I think it usually closes on about four and a half hours.
Closing time is irrelevant to me ATM as I have no previous times for longer than 25, and nothing at all in the last three years (2009 was my last TT). So, not worth going on the Etwall reserve list then? Welsh 100miler is on the same weekend, but much more of a pain logistically (Etwall is five miles from the folks and inlaws so easy to wrap up with a long weekend family visit).
Hounslow in July ? 2 weeks before the 24hr and can't be that far for you (course runs between Alton and Farnham - same roads as the Newbury 12hr).
...where do you live these days?
^^I linked to that three posts up :smug:
The Etwall reserve list will probably be stuffed with riders who have done 4:32 or thereabouts, so probably not worth it tbh.
The organiser of the ECCA 100 has said over on TTF that last year it closed on 4:09, though reserves got rides up to about 4:30. The problem is that they have to get riders off the Cambridge ring road by some time in the morning when the traffic builds up, so they restrict it to 80 riders - as well as starting stupidly early.
If you can make it up to Yorkshire, the YCF 100 is a fast event that never fills.
Fast course.
... just caught up via the TT forum. ...
... just caught up via the TT forum. ...
You read the WHOLE 130 page thread? :o
I've no idea if my position was ever compliant, but I'm glad that I gave up time trialling before it stopped being fun.
Did my first ever 10 (DIY rather than organised) on Sunday - CC118. Aside from having to do the first quarter again thanks to my satnav taking me off course (probably my fault not putting enough waypoints in the route) ::-), it was OK. I just used my regular bike (Cube Attain Disc), with no aero gubbins, but I'm still a bit disappointed with 29:50. I really struggled with the wind, and it felt that I needed to be in between gears (there was a 2 tooth jump in the cassette, and the smaller cog was just a tiny bit too hard).
It gives me a marker to beat anyway - I've now got a turbo trainer, so after a month or 2 blasting on that I'll have another go.
Under SCU rules you also have a 'no predominantly dark colours' rule as well.
Given that you have a big fluoro number pinned to your backside.
Adam Duggleby won with 3:31. I now know how much slower I am over 100 miles than a paralympic gold medallist: 50 minutes!A two-minute beating of Ryan Perry's fairly phenomenal course and event record from last year. I suspect that the 100m comp record is going to take a battering this year...
Indeed. I think we're going to see the first 'official' 30mph 100 and, sad to say, I don't think it will be Richard Bideau.Sorry Greg, I also meant to say that 4:21 is not a ride to beat yourself up about. I entered but didn't ride the Anfield in 2006, but I've done the 24 Hour and I know just how draggy those roads are - Duggleby's time is every bit as impressive as his recent 10m trike CR - and 4:21 is still pretty respectable. It will have been good training, even if you didn't get the result you hope for.
Well, the good news is that my ECCA entry has been accepted. That means I (probably) don't have to trog round a 100 late in the season, 3 weeks afer I've killed myself in a 12 hour :thumbsup:
The start sheet is out. I'm third reserve, you're ninth.I reckon that'll get me a ride, let's hope for enough early notice DNSs so we aren't left on tenterhooks until the last minute!
Lower than the ECCA anyway! That event currently has five dropouts so you've got another four to go.
P.S. Rob, you're probably on to win the long distance BAR at this rate.
I punctured just before the far turn at about 12 miles, latex tube just went bang for no reason! I put in my get home spare then promptly hit a pothole and punctured again. I did get some great photos though.Perhaps you should have been watching the road instead?
Lower than the ECCA anyway! That event currently has five dropouts so you've got another four to go.
P.S. Rob, you're probably on to win the long distance BAR at this rate.
Think wheelsoffire will win. The only reason I got 2nd last year was because none of the top 24hr finishers did a 12.
Lower than the ECCA anyway! That event currently has five dropouts so you've got another four to go.
P.S. Rob, you're probably on to win the long distance BAR at this rate.
Think wheelsoffire will win. The only reason I got 2nd last year was because none of the top 24hr finishers did a 12.
You got 2nd because you did some great rides - and Victor is a very strong beast. I don't know but i would guess his was one of the best overall averages in that competition. I'm not sure if Andy ever did a 12 and 24 in the same season... I reckon you'll be closer to Victor this year, best of luck to both of you.
After the Newbury/ECCA double header I now have a few weeks off before the Shaftesbury/Mersey double.
Finally managed to be organised enough to go and try out the club 10 this evening. Pretty pleased with how it went - 25:48 seems like a respectable time for a first effort, on a road bike with clip-on tri bars. (It is a fairly fast course though - pretty flat, and on a track, so no junctions or traffic to deal with.)
I was #16, and #17 caught and passed me at the start of the final lap, which spurred me on to put in a good last bit of effort - and I almost caught her back just before the finish line.
Overall, it was hard work but I don't think I pushed myself to my absolute limit, so there's definitely room for improvement.
https://www.strava.com/activities/1047665368
Looks pretty 'technical'.
I'd imagine on an out and back dual carriageway course you'd be way under 25 mins, probably sub 24.
In other news, I think we should run a yacf sweepstake: When will 35 catch 29 (http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php?/topic/121540-rttc-national-championship-100-start-sheet/)?
I'll bid 8:35am (or am I barred from this?)
It wasn't just me, pretty much everyone said it was hot and there were a lot of DNFs.
Started with 1.5ltrs of water on the bike and 6 gels. I hid another 600ml bottle on the course to pick up if required.
Started with 1.5ltrs of water on the bike and 6 gels. I hid another 600ml bottle on the course to pick up if required.
Great ride!
1.5 or even 2.1 litres is not much liquid for a 100 on a hot day. If I'd been riding yesterday I would have carried either 3 or possbily 4 litres. It costs less time to carry it than to stop and pick it up!
You were right! :facepalm:
Thankfully you're off ahead of me on the MR, it will take you longer to catch me.
Mersey Roads update: Messrs Crossley, Bullyment and Buck have all packed.
Mersey Roads update: Messrs Crossley, Bullyment and Buck have all packed.
:( How come? Weather?
About 40.
Paul's doing well. (https://twitter.com/MerseyRoads24/status/889038274123182081)
Helpers to the rescue, they brought sarcasm, dry clothes and an absolute refusal to let me in the car
Utterly broken at the finish having been fine & on schedule in the torrential rain for the first 12hrs, then dawdled and wasted time sitting at Prees in the wee hours cause I couldn't stay awake. When dawn came and I went back on the Quina Brook circuit I got the bit between my teeth and hammered a couple of laps...which broke me. Another shower and I was a shivering wreck. Helpers to the rescue, they brought sarcasm, dry clothes and an absolute refusal to let me in the car, so off I went just wanting to make it to the finish circuit and get a distance. Felt human on the transition so upped target to 600k / 373 miles but bloody hell did I have to dig deep to get up the climbs on the finishing circuit. Got given 374 which should go up to 376 or maybe 377 but hugely short of the 400 mile target or the 414 club record. Maybe next year... :hand:
Where were you ?
Was that the National 12? Just heard that one of our local riders was hit by a car during the event and has several broken bones.
Without knowing what the race was, the ride I was on yesterday crossed its path.
As an aside I'm already p'd off with some of the technology nay-sayers on social media, upset that Beryl's record has been taken.
As an aside I'm already p'd off with some of the technology nay-sayers on social media, upset that Beryl's record has been taken.
People can be so mean-spirited. Congrats to Alice, that's a great achievement.
My comment elsewhere was that it was sad & wonderful at the same time.
There were plenty of other people on all platforms whose first response was something along the lines of "Yebbut Beryl would've smashed it today, she did it without disc wheels or skinsuits or yadda yadda yadda ... ". Guys, get a life.
Pretty clear who won the women's although the record is subject to validation as the marshalls are missing a lap. Alice has had to provide her GPS files to confirm.
We still don't know if Bideau or Harrison won the men's. It was down to about a quarter if a mile difference towards the end.
In other news this event may not take place next year as the organiser is standing down. That'll leave the sport with 5 * 12hr events. There is a mod out to remove the 12hr from the BBAR which I think would be a massive shame. When I first started to read about the sport the BBAR was of huge interest, but it took me another 25yrs to actually ride one.
Like you say in another place Legs, it's easy to work out from Strava that Rider A has gone X times round the morning circuit, Y times round the afternoon circuit and Z times round the finishing circuit - and if you've pre-measured the course, you can then say exactly how far that is. You then only really need to check the final finishing circuit timekeepers' logs to generate a provisional result that should be accurate, and can then check the rest of the logs if you like to generate a final result. Like you also say, the process can be sped up with a bit of automation; the Mersey Roads team were doing this and managed to produce several intermediate distance sheets (https://twitter.com/MerseyRoads24/status/889038274123182081) throughout the day, before getting the results up quickly afterwards.
I haven't seen any mention of this amazing new record in any of the sports pages. Has anyone?
Last club evening 10 of the season tonight (followed by pizza/beer/etc :) )
It's on a new course, which starts/finished conveniently near the restaurant. So a good evening on the cards ...
except I've just noticed there is a TL-controlled junction on the course. Of course we're all pretty sensible, and there's no prizes at stake, but I do have slight concerns ... It's not even mentioned on the risk-assessment map (unlike the tiny mini-roundabout half-a-mile later) :o
...Wouldn't be a difficult decision - laws are laws, doubly so if you have a conspicuous race-number (and club affiliation) on your back.
or that you may have a difficult decision to make if it's red when you get there?
The good news: there's a 50 I can do before I leave the country at the start of May.
The bad news: it's the day after the only 25 I can realistically do, and they're separated by the distance between Doncaster and Surrey.
The question: do I commit to one mad weekend of time trialling, a few days before I fly?
2018 dares are on the CTT website.Is that a typo, or did you mean dares? :)
2018 dares are on the CTT website.Is that a typo, or did you mean dares? :)
I'm just going to do local events, so hopefully I don't need to book so far in advance. No TT bike this year as I spent my years bike budget on a power meter!
I'm at a wedding where the ceremony and reception are at opposite ends of the Bentley TT course, so I'm getting a good recce. Currently at the Chawton turn.
I'm just going to do local events, so hopefully I don't need to book so far in advance.
I'm at a wedding where the ceremony and reception are at opposite ends of the Bentley TT course, so I'm getting a good recce. Currently at the Chawton turn.
The whole 20 miles have been resurfaced with smooth tarmac ?
The forecast looks good: 10 degrees with a light wind from the East. I'll look forward to spotting your time in the 19s :thumbsup:
Sun 22/04 Teesdale Mountain TT
Sat 28/4 14:00 10 miles Ferryhill Wheelers T105
Sat 05/5 14:00 25 miles Drighlington BC V232
Sun 13/5 06:00 50 miles Norland TT Combine F1b/50
Sat 19/5 14:00 10 miles Selby Wheelers V511
Better get training!
Sun 22/04 Teesdale Mountain TT
Sat 28/4 14:00 10 miles Ferryhill Wheelers T105
Sat 05/5 14:00 25 miles Drighlington BC V232
Sun 13/5 06:00 50 miles Norland TT Combine F1b/50
Sat 19/5 14:00 10 miles Selby Wheelers V511
Better get training!
FTFY!
There's a road bike category this year, but sadly I'm busy that day: http://www.teesdalecrc.co.uk/teesdale-mountain-tt/4590929750
ut I'll only race if I can get PBs, I don't enjoy it enough otherwise,
The forecast looks good: 10 degrees with a light wind from the East. I'll look forward to spotting your time in the 19s :thumbsup:
Forecasts seem to vary a bit depending on which one you look at. PB is a short 23. There's room for a bit of improvement there.
Good to see Pedal Castro marshalling and Drossall supporting his clubmates at the start and finish.Among those clubmates was my son-in-law, busily making me feel totally inadequate. My best ever is a 23:42 done in the early 80s. He did a PB yesterday with 20:57 >:(
Thanks for those. Bike has a lot more clean lines this year.PM me if you'd like the "originals".
Saturday I'm riding my first ever (proper) club 10.
CC118 is what the segment is called - I think that's the name of the course?
This is the segment from the club website: https://www.strava.com/segments/1951541
My best time of 27 something was when riding in TTT formation - on my own I only achieved this 29:50. Strava estimates 169 Watts, so I should be able to beat that given my current FTP is 256. I've also got some aero bars - gonna get a bike fit onto them tomorrow. I have no idea how quick I can go though - I'll was thinking that I would just try 260W on the way to the turn and see how deep I can go on the way back, but aero position might mean I've got to reduce that...
I just drilled a hole in the carbon frame of my TT bike. I need to lie down now, that was stressful!How retro!
It's not very steep - the total rise is only 36m over 5 miles! But the plan is to go hard outwards in the anticipation of it being slightly easier to maintain speed on the way back...Saturday I'm riding my first ever (proper) club 10.
CC118 is what the segment is called - I think that's the name of the course?
This is the segment from the club website: https://www.strava.com/segments/1951541
My best time of 27 something was when riding in TTT formation - on my own I only achieved this 29:50. Strava estimates 169 Watts, so I should be able to beat that given my current FTP is 256. I've also got some aero bars - gonna get a bike fit onto them tomorrow. I have no idea how quick I can go though - I'll was thinking that I would just try 260W on the way to the turn and see how deep I can go on the way back, but aero position might mean I've got to reduce that...
Good luck for Saturday! Like Rob says, go deep uphill and leave just enough to hang on for the downhill return. Oh, and ignore Strava 'power', it's a complete work of fiction :D
I meant to ask - The start is only 10 miles from where I live and I don't think there's much parking - if my start time is reasonable and the weather isn't bad, is there any issue with riding to the event? Obviously the proper way to do things is to drive there and warm up on the turbo etc, but seeing as it's an early season experiment...the PROPER way is to ride over on your training wheels, with your race wheels on the front of your bike.
I meant to ask - The start is only 10 miles from where I live and I don't think there's much parking - if my start time is reasonable and the weather isn't bad, is there any issue with riding to the event? Obviously the proper way to do things is to drive there and warm up on the turbo etc, but seeing as it's an early season experiment...the PROPER way is to ride over on your training wheels, with your race wheels on the front of your bike.
;)
I think this may have been to protect the silk tubs they used to use on race wheels rather than the wheels themselves.I'd suggest that if he rode silks he was either a very fast man probably sponsored, or a very rich man. Certainly your normal club rider would not be on silks, and certainly not for a scrappy old evening event. In my day, the general tub of choice was a Barum PBW at 8 oz (230 gms in metric) which is a pretty much the same weight as a mid/high end modern clincher of similar width.
Rode my first ever TT today, the Spring Bunny 25.Jeezo Ron, hope you are ok. That sounds similar to my only TT based "off" in 2016 when a car joined a roundabout from my R without realising my speed (I was approaching it downhill and heading SO) - then stopped completely shortly after without having accelerated enough to get a decent distance in front of me, due to a bit falling off their car.
1:00:11, lost a minute to a high speed crash!
https://www.strava.com/activities/1496312917
I was catching up the rider in front, doing a shade over 40kph, he was about 100m ahead.
A group of 3 cars overtook me, and were forced to pull into the gap by an oncoming vehicle.
They then had to brake hard as they were behind the cyclist.
I was up off the aero extensions as fast as I could and grabbed a handful of brakes, and managed to shave a bit of speed off.
But they out-braked me by a huge margin, and I came close to smashing into the back of the last car.
A swerve into the gap between the car and the verge, but it was too narrow and I hit the verge at about 35kph and went ass-over-elbow into the soft verge.
I remember as I saw the front wheel hit the verge thinking "Oh fuck no, not my new wheels!"
Dusted myself down and carried on, but the whole thing cost me about a minute.
The bike was OK.
Great ride on a cold day, Rob.
Had been hoping to say hello but DNS'd as my daughter decided I only deserved one hour of sleep on Saturday night and, although the ride would have woken me up, I didn't fancy driving down. I expect there was an element of the weather playing a part; if it had been a warm float morning I might have managed to make it!
Sorry I missed you. Might see you at the Hounslow 100 in a few weeks ?.
First event of the local club (Deeside Thistle CC) evening league tonight.That's proper quick for a first 10. Chapeaux! :thumbsup:
10 mile TT over a gently rolling course.
My first ever 10 TT.
Conditions were a bit rough; cold, wet, and very blustery.
Official times not posted yet, but I'm hoping for sub-24.
Mr. Garmin reckons 23:04.
https://www.strava.com/activities/1543857122
Looking at the remaining 50s in the calendar there's a fast one on P885 in June
...
I'm not sure that returning from 2 weeks of doing pretty much nothing would be conducive to riding a decent 50.
ECCA 50 on the E2 today. Was well up on last year at half way and just didn’t slow down.Hoorah - so 300km audaxes *are* good preparation for races!
Really pleased with 1:46:59 for a pretty big PB and club record. Must have been a fast day as comp record was broken.
ECCA 50 on the E2 today. Was well up on last year at half way and just didn’t slow down.Hoorah - so 300km audaxes *are* good preparation for races!
Really pleased with 1:46:59 for a pretty big PB and club record. Must have been a fast day as comp record was broken.
ECCA 50 on the E2 today. Was well up on last year at half way and just didn’t slow down.Hoorah - so 300km audaxes *are* good preparation for races!
Really pleased with 1:46:59 for a pretty big PB and club record. Must have been a fast day as comp record was broken.
If that’s the case the rest of the year should work out quite well.
Your calendar sounds very similar to mine - just the results that are different. I was pleased with my 2hr 22min for a fairly flat 50. I'm keeping audax to a minimum this year (just an SR and some 'must do' events) and aiming for a good result in the 24, plus a BAR result even if it is not top notch.
My next few weekends go 200k/100TT/400k/100TT/12hrTT.
ECCA 50 on the E2 today. Was well up on last year at half way and just didn’t slow down.Chapeaux! That's a great result, well done. :)
Really pleased with 1:46:59 for a pretty big PB and club record. Must have been a fast day as comp record was broken.
My next few weekends go 200k/100TT/400k/100TT/12hrTT.
My next few weekends go 200k/100TT/400k/100TT/12hrTT.
Wow, that's quite a schedule - you must be in great shape to take that on.
The one I would worry about is the second 100, but I'm sure you know what you are doing!
Congrats on the stupendous 50 PB.
I managed a rather more sedate 2:08:52 in good conditions on the F1B 50 yesterday.
I'd hoped that I would have been faster. It was my comeback TT, first open event in almost 3 years, so I expect I could improve on it a bit, but it didn't give me any grounds to expect I could threaten my PBs this season, so may review my approach. I need to review my position as I am slipping forward on the saddle way too much. Not the right time in the season to change position so maybe I need to wait for next year to challenge the PBs.
Rob,
EDCA100 on 15 July should be a reasonable substitute ?
If you can get a pass to make the trip up to Keswick, the national the week before on the north Lancs course is decent - not quite as fast as the ECCA but you'll keep your losses to within managable levels, almost certainly within the gains you've made from your blistering 50. Have a look at what Steve Irwin has done on both courses. It's a very scenic (non-audax use of the word) course that goes up and down by Bassenthwaite lake, so possibly persuade the family to make a weekend of it?
Fast. I did my PB 25 on the single lap version of that course, which was introduced a couple of years ago and quickly became everyone's favourite. You turn at Knayton which means you don't do the majority of the big drag that you'd do on e.g. the T502, and the Yorkshire end of that road is a bit faster and better surfaced than the Teesside end.
Sorry I missed you. Might see you at the Hounslow 100 in a few weeks ?
Sorry I missed you. Might see you at the Hounslow 100 in a few weeks ?
After a few ups and downs, I'm pretty sure I will be riding on Sunday so will look out for you - most likely a red flash coming past me at some point!
I see from the start sheet see you have a TT novice off immediately in front of you!
wondering if 50mi warmup is too long or ok for the 100mi tt. how long/late before my time slot do i need to sign in at the hq?
wondering if 50mi warmup is too long or ok for the 100mi tt. how long/late before my time slot do i need to sign in at the hq?
thank you for your service rob, it was too late to shout "hi" before i realised it was you :)
my first 100mi tt went quite alright, averaged 40kph at 220w and finished in 4:00:28, which i'm pretty happy about. still felt tired after the tinat600k audax last weekend, that wiped me out more than i'd expected. should have done around 3:55 if i was fully rested/recovered (on today's course and conditions). it was a good learning opportunity about nutrition, hydration and pacing.
Well done! Shame not to get under 4h but, given your preparation and the course, a great ride. You will go well under on a fast course when tapered. Any plans to do Brekland, Yorkshire or the BDCA this year? That time will get you a place in the fast ones now.
Do you know what your power is now Zigzag? I'm really curious whether my TTs (28 minute 10s so far) are slow because of a lack of power or a lack of aero (obviously both improving would be nice).Well done! Shame not to get under 4h but, given your preparation and the course, a great ride. You will go well under on a fast course when tapered. Any plans to do Brekland, Yorkshire or the BDCA this year? That time will get you a place in the fast ones now.
thank you Frank, i haven't yet looked at other events. while riding these events is fun, what i would really want to do is raise my power first and then start competing (will take some time though!..)
i haven't tested my ftp in aerobars, could be around 260w at a guess. there are no easy wins in tt racing: latest aero equipment costs a fair bit and training takes time and willpower.I'm discovering that to be the case! My road setup FTP is 261, but what it is in aero setup is unknown! I'll test it when I change my bike back again (I'm done with team TTs for the year from Saturday). I was hoping that I could get some free speed by changing my position, but I'd need to know what I'm doing to do that! ;)
That sounds like a packed schedule. Will you do much in between those, or just commute?
Good luck Sunday.
Good luck this Sunday, and well done for having another shot at the 24. Hoping for better weather this year.
First event of the local club (Deeside Thistle CC) evening league tonight.That's proper quick for a first 10. Chapeaux! :thumbsup:
10 mile TT over a gently rolling course.
My first ever 10 TT.
Conditions were a bit rough; cold, wet, and very blustery.
Official times not posted yet, but I'm hoping for sub-24.
Mr. Garmin reckons 23:04.
https://www.strava.com/activities/1543857122
You should come down and ride the Ethiebeaton course just outside Dundee. Closest thing to a fast course in Scotland without roundabout dodging in Westferry. Course record is a long 19.
What counts as "long" for you? ;)
Glad I asked that - a 100 mile TT isn't long for you! :) Hopefully the aborted 12 will serve as good training for the 100.What counts as "long" for you? ;)
Anything where the pain of holding race position becomes untenable. I don't recall any issues on last year's 12.
I've entered the EDCA 100 and the Shaftesbury 50 - that weekend was freed up by not going to Shropshire.
I have entered the EDCA 100, hopefully I'll get in with my 4:32, then the Breckland 12 and. finally if all goes well I'll be looking for a fast 50 to secure a BBAR cert.
Massive rides by Alice and Adam. LEJOG and both the men's and women's 12 records all in one day, wow!I have entered the EDCA 100, hopefully I'll get in with my 4:32, then the Breckland 12 and. finally if all goes well I'll be looking for a fast 50 to secure a BBAR cert.
If you can make it up to Yorkshire for the Otley 50 Rob isn't doing anymore, that will be fast. At the end of the season there is usually a Yorkshire event on a short version of the same course, but which is still usually a bit faster than the Breckland the week after.
A short version of the same course? I meant a slightly slower version!
What counts as "long" for you? ;)
Anything where the pain of holding race position becomes untenable. I don't recall any issues on last year's 12.
What counts as "long" for you? ;)
Anything where the pain of holding race position becomes untenable. I don't recall any issues on last year's 12.
Are you having trouble holding your position for a 12-hour?
I had that three years ago. I think I'd need a major review of position before I would attempt another one.
If have thought your power would have been higher for a 10. I guess it would be if you trained for short rides.
That's pretty quick for 257W
If have thought your power would have been higher for a 10. I guess it would be if you trained for short rides.
That's pretty quick for 257W
i haven't trained in aero position much, so my power is 20-30w lower than on a road bike, plus there were three downhill sections where i'd wanted a taller gear (than the current 53x11). my heart rate was ~5bpm lower than i can sustain for such duration, so perhaps i wasn't pushing myself as hard as i could have? :)
I was out marshalling the club's open 25 this morning. Very benevolent conditions - mild and hardly any wind - meant some fast times. Winner was Chris Fennell, who didn't beat his own course record of 49.50, but his 50.21 still seems pretty good to me.
I've not yet done a 25 myself but watching them this morning made me wish I was out there on my bike. I would even think about entering the KCA 25 in September, on the same course (Q25/10), except I've already entered the Fenland Friends 600 which is on the same weekend. Dammit.
Our 25 is in August Bank Holiday Sunday (Q25/12). I’m on marshalling duty.
Anyone got tips for TTing on fixed?
I've been reading Obree's book, and I've finally finished reassembling my fixie (bits and pieces built around a 531 Raleigh frame), so I fancy a go.
I can fit my clip-ons to the fixie bullbars, and I've got a 52 took chainring from when my crankset was a double (and miraculously 52-16 is around the 22mph I can do for a 10), so (assuming the 52 doesn't foul the chainstay) I think I just need a longer chain and I'm good to go. If it works and it's fun I'll get some better rolling tyres (currently on 10yo bontragers) and try the next club 10.
Anyone got tips for TTing on fixed?Keep pedalling as you cross the finish line!
Do it. :)Anyone got tips for TTing on fixed?
I've been reading Obree's book, and I've finally finished reassembling my fixie (bits and pieces built around a 531 Raleigh frame), so I fancy a go.
I can fit my clip-ons to the fixie bullbars, and I've got a 52 took chainring from when my crankset was a double (and miraculously 52-16 is around the 22mph I can do for a 10), so (assuming the 52 doesn't foul the chainstay) I think I just need a longer chain and I'm good to go. If it works and it's fun I'll get some better rolling tyres (currently on 10yo bontragers) and try the next club 10.
I haven't got any tips but I've been thinking about doing exactly the same with my old Raleigh Royal 531 frame, which is currently hanging up on the garage wall.
I think you're a bit faster than me
I think you're a bit faster than me, so you'll need a bigger gear though. I resprayed my bike, so it's all shiny... :)Nice bike, but whack the stem down, won't ya?
Yeah, that is how it was when I finished building it last week. This weekend it will be getting the stem slammed, along with a big chainring, clip-ons and my TT saddle. I'll change the front QR orientation as well. ;) Then we'll see how well it goes.I think you're a bit faster than me, so you'll need a bigger gear though. I resprayed my bike, so it's all shiny... :)Nice bike, but whack the stem down, won't ya?
There's a grrr, grrr, grrr on the pedal stroke - I thought it was the way that the old chainring was peened over in places, but a new chainring and a new chain means the only thing it can be is flex causing a distortion or the sprocket
you might get a bit of adjustment there by turning the sprocket round the other way?There's a grrr, grrr, grrr on the pedal stroke - I thought it was the way that the old chainring was peened over in places, but a new chainring and a new chain means the only thing it can be is flex causing a distortion or the sprocket
Sure it's not a dodgy chainline? This proved to be the cause of a noisy drivetrain on one of my bikes. And it wasn't very far out either.
Massive rides by Alice and Adam. LEJOG and both the men's and women's 12 records all in one day, wow!I have entered the EDCA 100, hopefully I'll get in with my 4:32, then the Breckland 12 and. finally if all goes well I'll be looking for a fast 50 to secure a BBAR cert.
If you can make it up to Yorkshire for the Otley 50 Rob isn't doing anymore, that will be fast. At the end of the season there is usually a Yorkshire event on a short version of the same course, but which is still usually a bit faster than the Breckland the week after.
My only free weekend until August...entered! ;)
Then a week to taper before the EDCA 100 next week.
Congratulations, you've certainly worked hard enough for it. What is next on the list?
Congratulations, you've certainly worked hard enough for it. What is next on the list?
Congratulations, you've certainly worked hard enough for it. What is next on the list?
I have the Shaftesbury 50 on Sunday with a view to getting a fast BBAR qualifier.
If that works out I may enter the Breckland 12hr first weekend of August. After that I’m done with time trialling for a while.
After a couple of disappointments and revisiting goals for the year I arrived at the EDCA 100 this morning a little pensive. The forecast was good with little wind but rising temps towards the end. I had persuaded my family to hand up 3 bottles during the ride.
What happened in the end was probably my best ever execution of a TT. HR in the right zones but keeping a lid on the effort. Fuelling and hydration absolutely spot on and a negative split, hammering the last 10 Miles.
Not seen my official time but the Garmin had a long 3:46 as I crossed the line. Big PB and a new club record. Shattered but very satisfied.
Sat and watched the Breckland 12hr for a couple of hours yesterday. It was hot but there were some pretty good rides. Slight pang of guilt for not riding.
I expect that, despite this being the National next year, I’m unlikely to ride as it’s the weekend before PBP.
I was wondering if I could basically butt the disc up to the inside of the rim (with a pad near the rim with some correx to make it a bit chunkier), zip tie the sides together to hold it on and then silicone the gap to the rim to make it all smooth.
Sat and watched the Breckland 12hr for a couple of hours yesterday. It was hot but there were some pretty good rides. Slight pang of guilt for not riding.
I expect that, despite this being the National next year, I’m unlikely to ride as it’s the weekend before PBP.
Dang! I told my daughter when PBP was so she wouldn't put her wedding on that weekend so she went for the one before so I could ride to Sweden for training (and the wedding) then have a week off before PBP...looks like I'll ride the 24 again next year then.
That sounds impressive. While it's a fixie, and therefore I could cover the brake track, I would very much prefer to keep 2 brakes.I was wondering if I could basically butt the disc up to the inside of the rim (with a pad near the rim with some correx to make it a bit chunkier), zip tie the sides together to hold it on and then silicone the gap to the rim to make it all smooth.
For the WHPVA championships I disc-ified my rear wheel by molishing an appropriate disc out of 1mm ABS (she says, handwaving the knack to getting the dishing just right), sized to butt up to the inside edge of the bog standard rim, secured it to the side of the rim with PVC insulating tape, and added a few cable ties to the spokes to prevent anything catastrophically nasty happening if the tape didn't hold.
It survived a weekend of racing with no ill effects (including comedy off-roading across the camping field and a several of loadings and unloadings into the back of a car), even with the tape adhesive being sun-baked by the scorchio.
Obviously this approach requires that you aren't going to use the rim as a braking surface... But I reckon that attaching the two discs together inside the rim would be secure, if somewhat less aerodynamic.
How much faster are you without the pump-n-pack?It was a club 10 - if I had a flat someone would have noticed and they could have sent someone back to help me out. Loads of non-riders floating about. I left all my gubbins at the start...
2.5 miles is a long walk ... and there's not a lot of pavement or flat verges on that road. Lot of potholes too, so flats are probably more likely. Sorry!
Tell us more! :demon:
I appreciate that everyone is different, so what is fast for you won't be fast for anyone else, but what did you test, and how did you do it? I'm really curious about these testing sessions (though lack of funds means I'm going to have to go with Golden Cheetah and the Chung method if I ever get around to it).
A 10% CdA improvement should see you go a bit over 2% faster.
Actually, for Rob, it would be nearer 10 miles in a 24.
best fixie? That's a nice award :thumbsup:
[It's a shame Condor events are helmet compulsory :( ]
Do you mean clothing or parts?
I've not ordered any new clothing, but I've got some new sprockets and a chainring. I also made myself a disc wheel: https://fixedtting.home.blog/2019/02/11/adding-a-disc-wheel-cover/ and got an aero fit: https://fixedtting.home.blog/2019/02/28/position-adjustment-videos/
Sadly, my back is playing up, so I'm probably not riding anything in March.
*Thanks. :thumbsup: For now I'll stick to my pink Ekoi monstrosity. :) I think it fits OK and I don't want to introduce too many variables...
How much was the nopinz suit, if you don't mind me asking? Was there a minimum order?
I'm not fast enough to justify that. Or indeed spending the cash on properly organised testing. Maybe next year.
I want to try doing some Chung method testing (stuff like high vs low hands) this year, but it will have to wait for now.
What events are you targeting this year?
Just need some new tyres and maybe an extra tooth on the front chainring,What size chainring do you run? I got a 54 earlier this year, but I'm wondering about a 55 for sale on TTF... Do you have a range of cogs/rings like the track or fixed crit people do, or do you just run one combo for most of your events?
Just need some new tyres and maybe an extra tooth on the front chainring,What size chainring do you run? I got a 54 earlier this year, but I'm wondering about a 55 for sale on TTF... Do you have a range of cogs/rings like the track or fixed crit people do, or do you just run one combo for most of your events?
Signed off on the skinsuit design. Hoping to have it by the end of April.
Ordered this year's spangly upgrades: a 56 tooth Fibrelyte single ring and a new groupset. Now let's hope my legs will spin at faster than touring speed when I get home.
What chainring are you getting? Good luck on the weekend, even with the old one! :)
What chainring are you getting? Good luck on the weekend, even with the old one! :)
I ran 50*14 last year but bought a 51. I have a 52 in the garage but I think that will be a bit big and the 50 is already fitted. Wind looks largely side on with maybe a bit of tail on the way back and it's flat. Shouldn't be hugely spinny.
Race delayed and then postponed due to a stuck level crossing. Warmed up twice and then rode back to the in-laws the long way round. Kit felt good but not a real test. Should have done the ECCA 50 which was on as I drove up to Norfolk.
I've entered the Kent 100 and the national 100. I think the last open event I completed (at any distance) was the Anfield 100 in 2017!
I've entered the Kent 100 and the national 100. I think the last open event I completed (at any distance) was the Anfield 100 in 2017!
I *may* be around for the Kent 100 (not riding). Drop me a line a bit closer to the time.
Won’t bother with a seperate thread but who’s going to the 24 this year ?
In that case I'll listen for the insults to find out where you are.
Alistair Speed Meml 50 TT today, out of Freuchie in Fife.:thumbsup:
2:02:17, which is my PB over 50 ( it's only my second 50! )
I'll have another bash at getting under 2 hours later in the year.
Course is not the fastest.
Relentlessly undulating, and rather better ventilated than is optimal.
You have to approach the same roundabout 3 times, and I had to stop a couple of times.
5 left hand turns , 1 right hand 😱 and a dead turn. Certainly varied.
One rider managed to count 25 Marshalls!
Great fun, and a PB so what's not to like.
https://www.strava.com/activities/2454842653
The course details are available here.That's a pain :( The start is about the hottest part of your ride, so 60miles is a nuisance.
https://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/race-details/19122
Whilst Prees Heath is the best base you will spend a few hours (circa 60 miles) away from there on the Saturday afternoon as you do Espley-Shawbirch twice.
Just entered the Mersey Roads 24 hour TT. I will be riding without any support.I would park at HQ and hand over your box of supplies/night layers to be taken by the marshals to Prees Heath. On your first pass of the Prees Heath roundabout, you are on the wrong side for the boxes/tent if it is like previous years. In fact, on the first pass I'm not even sure that your stuff will be there by then. Maybe put 2 bottles on the bike and a bite to eat in the back pocket? After that it is just a matter of pulling off and helping yourself, although when coming FROM the A41 TO the A49, you do have to cross the carriageway. The first time I used this facilty, it was quite warm and I got through my 8-ish made-up bottles pretty quickly, but the marshal looking after things there made them all up again whilst I was riding using the electrolytes/squash from my box. Would recommend plenty of 'normal' food in your box and consider some chain oil and a rag. Happy to try and answer any questions you may have.
Any advice from those who've experience of riding or supporting others on where best to place my car so I can get to my food and spares with the minimum of faff?
I know there is a HQ and a particular roundabout that gets used, but will one place cover me for all the various circuits over the 24 hours?
Thanks!
ECCA 100 on the E2 this morning. Whilst the event started early I was off towards the back at 6:04. Wind was a different way round to last weekend and much kinder. Fuelled properly but maybe not quite enough water. Improved my PB by just over a minute with 3:45:29.
Men’s team record was broken, but the solo record is safe as Marcin went off course and was DQ’d.
Just entered the Mersey Roads 24 hour TT. I will be riding without any support.
Any advice from those who've experience of riding or supporting others on where best to place my car so I can get to my food and spares with the minimum of faff?
I know there is a HQ and a particular roundabout that gets used, but will one place cover me for all the various circuits over the 24 hours?
Thanks!
Won’t bother with a seperate thread but who’s going to the 24 this year ?
Won’t bother with a seperate thread but who’s going to the 24 this year ?
I’m doing it again and have acquired a silly hat and some silly overshoe sock thingis 😉
Just entered the Mersey Roads 24 hour TT. I will be riding without any support.
Any advice from those who've experience of riding or supporting others on where best to place my car so I can get to my food and spares with the minimum of faff?
I know there is a HQ and a particular roundabout that gets used, but will one place cover me for all the various circuits over the 24 hours?
Thanks!
I rode my first club TT in <inaudible mumble> last night. My expectations were limited, anything sub 30 mins would have been ok, I just needed to actually post a time.
In the end i was pleased to get round safely and in 27.40. Warm up consisted of pumping tyres up and riding 1/4 mile to the start. I couldnt hang about at the finish but im sure id have been last, nobody else seems to go over 25 mins these days.
Im on holiday next week up at my mother in laws in Ft William and will take the TT bike with me and ride the Jason McIntyre course a few times.
Target 1. Age standard (27.07). Target 2. 26 mins.
Which way out of London suits you best ? You might be a bit late for this year as the evening events dry up mid-Summer.
There's a series of 10s in Richmond Park. If you ride my way (Kent) there's a shared series of evening 10s run by Sevenoaks Tri/Sydenham/Bigfoot all based near to Sevenoaks. None of these are fast courses but a lot of people cut their teeth riding evening 10s and it's a great place to try things out.
Which way out of London suits you best ? You might be a bit late for this year as the evening events dry up mid-Summer.
There's a series of 10s in Richmond Park. If you ride my way (Kent) there's a shared series of evening 10s run by Sevenoaks Tri/Sydenham/Bigfoot all based near to Sevenoaks. None of these are fast courses but a lot of people cut their teeth riding evening 10s and it's a great place to try things out.
We can do anywhere within an hour or so's riding distance from c. Parliament, a bit further if it's a weekend.
Cheers for the pointers everyone.
Taking the Sergei Bubka approach and PBing by 1 second each time? :)
Congrats - IIRC that's your second PB this year?
That's great going. If you are going to do something other than TTing next year, that's a pretty good way to bow out. :thumbsup:Taking the Sergei Bubka approach and PBing by 1 second each time? :)
Congrats - IIRC that's your second PB this year?
Ta.
3rd. 25, 100 and 24hr. Only 3 races left.
I switched to the 16. Should have left it on the 15 - it was really windy, and I struggled to produce power >110rpm in the tailwind on the way out. I don't think it would have really hurt my time in the head on the way back.
I got a pretty good PB though - down from 27:11 to 25:42, and that includes having to stop at the turn. My normalised power wasn't much up on the previous PB, so it's probably down to the course, but it's still pleasing. ;D Rekindled my hope I can actually do some fast TTing at some point!
Well I get back from PBP to discover that the ECCA 12hr has been cancelled through lack of numbers. I had juggled things a bit to make this the last big goal of the year and it now all feels a bit flat.
I can ride the Kent and will benefit from an additional week of PBP recovery but that course is slower and I have done a lot of hours riding laps of Romney Marsh. Entry deadline is Tuesday so I can discuss with my supporters once I collect them from the airport this afternoon.
...and then time for a break.Well deserved.
Date Time Speed HR max Speed Max 1 18/6/19 41:18.0 28.1 165 41.3 2 30/6/19 40:11.0 28.9 168 43.9 3 05/07/19 39:44.0 29.2 165 41.7 4 14/7/19 39:01.0 29.7 166 37.6 5 21/07/19 39:25.0 29.4 166 45 6 missed 7 missed 8 08/08/19 35:40.4 32.5 47.1 9 15/08/19 36:40.0 31.6 168 43.1 10 24/08/19 36:27.0 31.8 174 42.4 11 28/08/19 36:25.0 31.8 168 44.1 12 08/09/19 35:15.0 32.9 175 40.4 13 10/09/19 35:02.0 33.1 171 43.6 |
I'm currently sitting 8th in the league, can't believe how much I've enjoyed this
Tomorrow sees an attempt on one of the McNasty tandem RRA records (http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php?/topic/135089-more-rra-shenanigans/)
Said I wasn’t going to race next year. I seem to be missing it.
Wheels of Fire is far too polite to mention this but he’s riding the world 24hr champs in California at the end of the week. I’ll dig the link out when I’m not on my phone.
All CTT events suspended until 31May announced on the CTT Facebook page.... although I think they're going to review in April I think? So it's not a nailed-on date.
I looked at the race bike hanging on the wall the other day and thought I might want to use it again. It soon passed.
You say that, which is conveniently what I was doing before all this kicked off, but who knows when we'll be resuming racing?
Yes, I take the same view.You say that, which is conveniently what I was doing before all this kicked off, but who knows when we'll be resuming racing?
I have discovered that I’m not someone who can train for the sake of training. Targeting a race in August would make me work for 4 months, but with a risk the event doesn’t happen. I only backed off about 10 days ago so I probably haven’t lost much.
I have discovered that I’m not someone who can train for the sake of training. Targeting a race in August would make me work for 4 months, but with a risk the event doesn’t happen. I only backed off about 10 days ago so I probably haven’t lost much.
Is this going to be terminal for Time trialling?
It looks like vulnerable people are going to be shielded for an extended period. Average age at TTs is pretty high, and plenty will have underlying conditions. And that's just the riders - never mind the marshalls, timekeepers, pusher-offers, tea servers, etc.
Is this going to be terminal for Time trialling?
It looks like vulnerable people are going to be shielded for an extended period. Average age at TTs is pretty high, and plenty will have underlying conditions. And that's just the riders - never mind the marshalls, timekeepers, pusher-offers, tea servers, etc.
Could TT use something like the frames I have seen at track events?
Can't you just put a big post in the ground and the rider can hold themselves up? You don't need someone to hold you up on a road/TT bike (probably a bit different for a track spring event where you have a huge gear and need both hands on the bars from the gun).
Registration and number collect/return would be more of a problem for social distancing. Maybe you can do sign- in with a dedicated room and bring-your-own pen basis, and return with a postbox style arrangement?
Can't you just put a big post in the ground and the rider can hold themselves up? You don't need someone to hold you up on a road/TT bike (probably a bit different for a track spring event where you have a huge gear and need both hands on the bars from the gun).
Registration and number collect/return would be more of a problem for social distancing. Maybe you can do sign- in with a dedicated room and bring-your-own pen basis, and return with a postbox style arrangement?
Is this going to be terminal for Time trialling?
It looks like vulnerable people are going to be shielded for an extended period. Average age at TTs is pretty high, and plenty will have underlying conditions. And that's just the riders - never mind the marshalls, timekeepers, pusher-offers, tea servers, etc.
Marshalls and timekeepers can maintain social distancing... pusher-offers are not strictly necessary for an event to happen, I'm sure we can all do with losing 5 seconds whilst clipping in... equally, tea and cake are nice, but strictly not necessary and it can be on a DIY basis.
Of all forms of racing, TT is the one that could go ahead even during a protracted phase of social distancing, after the lockdown is lifted.
Maybe spectators at hill climbs will have to be banned, maybe the national HC will have to take fewer than the expected 480 competitors
Is this going to be terminal for Time trialling?
It looks like vulnerable people are going to be shielded for an extended period. Average age at TTs is pretty high, and plenty will have underlying conditions. And that's just the riders - never mind the marshalls, timekeepers, pusher-offers, tea servers, etc.
I'm still hoping to maybe get some racing in. This posted today :-
https://cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/articles/view/547
Is this going to be terminal for Time trialling?
It looks like vulnerable people are going to be shielded for an extended period. Average age at TTs is pretty high, and plenty will have underlying conditions. And that's just the riders - never mind the marshalls, timekeepers, pusher-offers, tea servers, etc.
Marshalls and timekeepers can maintain social distancing... pusher-offers are not strictly necessary for an event to happen, I'm sure we can all do with losing 5 seconds whilst clipping in... equally, tea and cake are nice, but strictly not necessary and it can be on a DIY basis.
Of all forms of racing, TT is the one that could go ahead even during a protracted phase of social distancing, after the lockdown is lifted.
Maybe spectators at hill climbs will have to be banned, maybe the national HC will have to take fewer than the expected 480 competitors
Social distancing is not shielding.
Details not clear yet but if we are shielding older people +those with health conditions they probably wouldn't be going out to roundabouts and roadsides
Americans ::-)That is weird! I'd probably quite enjoy 12 miles, but I can't see it catching on in the UK ..
I'd have gone with ten miles or twenty k myself. 19.2 km is both oddly precise and rather vague
I predict panic-buying of pedals like the M520 ... :P
Yes of course TT is the discipline easiest to run despite restrictions. Of course we don't know how the "softening" will happen in the UK, so it's difficult to plan tactics/tricks/tech to get round things, but I'm pretty certain that some form of racing could* happen.
No pushers-off will be just one such work-around - a TT is just a timed solo ride in essence.
Premier League footy is looking at restarting!!! But then at least one CX league (Central) has cancelled their 20/21 season :( (although they haven't banned clubs from running "pop-up" events)
*unless future restrictions contain some truly bizarre criteria with no scientific basis ...
There’s a CTT board meeting this weekend apparently. Look out for some news next week.
There’s a CTT board meeting this weekend apparently. Look out for some news next week.
No news... is it good news? I suppose it's better than a rushed decision to cancel everything until next year.
I've seen a lot of "racing" happening on indoor trainers, but I am not overly keen to invest big money on one, at least not until the late autumn.
Moving to e-racing would require a fairly major investment.
The ship's sailed regarding e-solutions, if you haven't got a smart trainer now, you're unlikely to, until so long in the future you can race outside again.
Some clubs got in there quick (https://www.newburyvelo.cc/events/event.php?s=2020-05-20-zwift-club-10-midweek-tt)
Racing on Zwift isn't the same as IRL. It's a game- and the winners are those who play the game best, not those who'd be fastest on the road.
My laptop isn't man enough to run Zwift so I use my Pixel 2 phone and the app, plus a £15 TV off Gumtree and a £30 Chromecast.
I have also resurrected an old mobile with no sim card but logged into my home wifi to use the Zwift companion app (which isn't really worth it except for group rides), Netflix or Spotify whilst keeping the Zwift app up on the main phone.
Not investigated RGT yet...
I”m surprised that no one has mentioned CTTs latest Covid document.
B ( club events) possible from, I think, 6 July, opens from a week or so later. This is for England only of course
Full details of how organisers must ensure social distancing etc will follow it states.
Obviously subject to the Country not regressing in terms of R number etc.
My club has started working out what TTs it can run and whether the courses scheduled for those dates are suitable. I might marshall, depending on timings.I was amazed to see how keen your lot were to ride on the A420, over all other options :o
I've not been paying attention to the proposed courses because I'm injured, but the safest I've ever felt on a TT was on the A420. Some of the driving around the "quiet roads" TTs can be really dangerous. H10/17 is one of the faster courses around as well - the alternatives (specifically Oakley) have horrible surfaces.
I did a cross race on Thursday night - almost the same as a pre-Covid race, but run as a 6-lap TT (you had to count your own laps - purely chip timing).Was that the Take3 event? How much passing was there - I saw that some people finished a lap down?
Quite an odd experience, but just as much fun as the usual races. A large proportion of riders seemed to have trouble counting to 6 :D
Yup.I did a cross race on Thursday night - almost the same as a pre-Covid race, but run as a 6-lap TT (you had to count your own laps - purely chip timing).Was that the Take3 event? How much passing was there - I saw that some people finished a lap down?
Quite an odd experience, but just as much fun as the usual races. A large proportion of riders seemed to have trouble counting to 6 :D
First "proper" TT tomorrow morning. Arrangements seem well thought out ...
But we MUST bring our own pen and safety-pins! :P
22:31 in the ten I mentioned. A pretty poor performance but it's done its job: improving my LTS (previously on allow club courses) so I can enter events going forward. That's my season over, now I'm off touring.
22:31 in the ten I mentioned. A pretty poor performance but it's done its job: improving my LTS (previously on allow club courses) so I can enter events going forward. That's my season over, now I'm off touring.
What power for that if you don't mind me asking...?
I'm normally at the bottom end of the standings in a flat TT, kind of long 25... but it's also true I don't have anything aero, nothing, not even high profile wheels. My rationale is that with 260 Watt (or 4 W/kg) I wouldn't be very high up in the standings even if I spent ten grand in equipment and learned to use it properly, so I prefer to save the money. I did a couple of 10 at Mallory Park in August and with a 23 you're in the bottom half, 30th or thereabout. For me, being 30th or 50th makes no difference.
But then, peeking through people's outputs published on Strava, I see some very fast juniors, doing 21 with similar power to mine and I wonder if it's got to do with W/kg, which in their case might be more like 5, or it's got to do with them being so skinny that even their CdA is more favourable than that of senior riders...
22:31 in the ten I mentioned. A pretty poor performance but it's done its job: improving my LTS (previously on allow club courses) so I can enter events going forward. That's my season over, now I'm off touring.
What power for that if you don't mind me asking...?
I'm normally at the bottom end of the standings in a flat TT, kind of long 25... but it's also true I don't have anything aero, nothing, not even high profile wheels. My rationale is that with 260 Watt (or 4 W/kg) I wouldn't be very high up in the standings even if I spent ten grand in equipment and learned to use it properly, so I prefer to save the money. I did a couple of 10 at Mallory Park in August and with a 23 you're in the bottom half, 30th or thereabout. For me, being 30th or 50th makes no difference.
But then, peeking through people's outputs published on Strava, I see some very fast juniors, doing 21 with similar power to mine and I wonder if it's got to do with W/kg, which in their case might be more like 5, or it's got to do with them being so skinny that even their CdA is more favourable than that of senior riders...
My PM died during the 10, but the 25 I did five days before was a 235 W average power (not NP) for 56:05. I performed better in the 25 than the 10, as it mattered more to me whereas the 10 was basically rolling round to update my qualifying time and hadn't trained since the previous event. That's all with position that tests to give [censored] CdA, but also squishes my hip angle a bit so I produce a bit less power than in a more relaxed position, and which I've had to train into to produce as much as I do.
^ Lots of very good advice. You would need to spend months reading the TT forum to come up with that amount of useful info. And, believe me, you don't want to do that!I definitely agree about reading the TT forum! :)
Re saddle and seatpost, I once had a second saddle / seatpost for getting a TT position on a road bike. I used a VK adaptor to get the TT saddle a long way forward into the position I wanted it. But I wouldn't use that position now - I also now try to get lower and further back than I used to. But that is only possible as I have improved my flexibility: high / forward position is forgiving of poor lower back / hip / hamstring flexibility.
ISM / Adamo is a good saddle choice as it is just about the only saddle that is comfortable (for some, not all, people) both for riding on aerobars and hoods/tops. But you do need to read what it says about changing position - it needs to go a long way further down and back than other saddles - otherwise it will be really uncomfortable (I know as I didn't first time I had one and it was)
Are you getting near the top 10 in serious hillclimbs? Chapeau.
I've got into nationals without a qualifying time at that distance at every distance from 50 miles upwards.
Yeah, but I'm just not competitive in flat TT...
Yeah, but I'm just not competitive in flat TT...
Why do you need to be competitive ? In the average TT only a handful of people are racing for the win. Everyone else is just seeing how much they can improve.
Admittedly it doesn't smart as much as my never having managed to get under 4 hours for 100 miles since the one that got voided. 2021, you have a target assigned.
Admittedly it doesn't smart as much as my never having managed to get under 4 hours for 100 miles since the one that got voided. 2021, you have a target assigned.
I don't seem to have an attachment to figures... when my time in a hill climb was corrected from 4:59.7 to 5:00.7, it didn't make any difference to me... because I was still 38th! Obviously I would have preferred to be a second faster, but not because of the sub 5 minute thing, more because I would have been 37th (other times were corrected too)!
Although I do like to see a 100% in the purple power bar on Strava for the segment... it means I am improving :thumbsup:
"cycling 100 miles".. what difference does it make if it was 99?
I once did 4:00:29 for a 100. It messed with my head for a long time.
I once did 4:00:29 for a 100. It messed with my head for a long time.
aye, my one and only (so far) 100 was 4:00:28 :D
those 28s were annoying for that afternoon, but i thought i gave it my best shot, so it is what it is.
"cycling 100 miles".. what difference does it make if it was 99?
That part has triggered me so badly. You've just ruined my day :facepalm: :sick: :'(
;D
I once did 4:00:29 for a 100. It messed with my head for a long time.
aye, my one and only (so far) 100 was 4:00:28 :D
those 28s were annoying for that afternoon, but i thought i gave it my best shot, so it is what it is.
That was a great ride on that course. I'd love to go back and try to get under 4hrs there. My PB rides have been on much faster bits of road.
I once did 4:00:29 for a 100. It messed with my head for a long time.
aye, my one and only (so far) 100 was 4:00:28 :D
those 28s were annoying for that afternoon, but i thought i gave it my best shot, so it is what it is.
That was a great ride on that course. I'd love to go back and try to get under 4hrs there. My PB rides have been on much faster bits of road.
Which course?
I'd love to go under 4h for 100 miles, but various injuries and conditions have kept me away from TTing for the last few years, so may not be realistic any more. Each year I do think about it when setting goals for the coming season. It's like the 4 minute mile in running, only technology has evolved enough to make it accessible to average club riders nowadays.
That was the KCA on Romney Marsh. I think my best on there was a 4:15 but I got fitter and more aero later on.
If you want the best chance then the E2 is probably the fastest with the B100/4 not far behind. I did 3:45 and 3:46 on those courses, respectively.
That was the KCA on Romney Marsh. I think my best on there was a 4:15 but I got fitter and more aero later on.
If you want the best chance then the E2 is probably the fastest with the B100/4 not far behind. I did 3:45 and 3:46 on those courses, respectively.
it was, and every time i visited that place since, it never felt inviting and brought back memories of omnidirectional winds and bumpy tarmac. (also, riding back to london wasn't my brightest idea..)
if i was a fool enough to enter it, i'd be tempted to go there the night before and fill the gaps with a builders foam. i'm sure a many riders would be grateful!
That was the KCA on Romney Marsh. I think my best on there was a 4:15 but I got fitter and more aero later on.
If you want the best chance then the E2 is probably the fastest with the B100/4 not far behind. I did 3:45 and 3:46 on those courses, respectively.
it was, and every time i visited that place since, it never felt inviting and brought back memories of omnidirectional winds and bumpy tarmac. (also, riding back to london wasn't my brightest idea..)
I'd love to go under 4h for 100 miles, but various injuries and conditions have kept me away from TTing for the last few years, so may not be realistic any more. Each year I do think about it when setting goals for the coming season. It's like the 4 minute mile in running, only technology has evolved enough to make it accessible to average club riders nowadays.It's funny how much times have improved in the past 20 years, through a combination of technology and better-informed training methods. When I broke 4 hours in the Westerley 100 in 2002, I think I was 6th or 7th. Nowadays, an event on the A34 would be massively oversubscribed and I probably wouldn't be able to get in with a 3:58:25! FWIW I was riding a steel frame that was even 17 years old at the time.
Yeah, but I'm just not competitive in flat TT...Given that we're all pi55ing about in a small pond (apart from maybe 1-2 who post on this forum), I'm more interested in inclusive sport than events where people only enter to be beating people. I guess some like massaging their egos - but it's a bit weird to be proud of coming 2nd or 4th just because nobody genuinely quick turned up.
I have a low BMI and I do comparatively much better uphill. Also, vets in general are quite fast on the flat, but not very fast uphill, so I have an extra advantage there, as I seem to be the opposite.
I am just playing to my strengths...
That is a good time on that course! As are Rob's, on any course, for that matter.
Yebbut I've been the inside cover star in a prestigious magazine with international subscribers! Arrivée
Yeah, but I'm just not competitive in flat TT...Given that we're all pi55ing about in a small pond (apart from maybe 1-2 who post on this forum), I'm more interested in inclusive sport than events where people only enter to be beating people. I guess some like massaging their egos - but it's a bit weird to be proud of coming 2nd or 4th just because nobody genuinely quick turned up.
I have a low BMI and I do comparatively much better uphill. Also, vets in general are quite fast on the flat, but not very fast uphill, so I have an extra advantage there, as I seem to be the opposite.
I am just playing to my strengths...
But Hill Climbs to seem to attract this mentality; our club ran a few rural un-fast flat 10s recently and 20-odd entered each one, most of us with no hope, and finishing hours behind the quickest. Then we put on a hill-climb ... 3 members raced.
The tradition SE double header of the Bec and Catford Hill Climbs has been cancelled.
The club hill climb has very much declined in recent years, but not as badly as the downhill/freewheel which is a bit weird since you don't even have pedal on that one.
The tradition SE double header of the Bec and Catford Hill Climbs has been cancelled.
Yes, I wanted to do the Bec... (Catford was always going to be more difficult... long trip to be there in the morning) shame, but I can see how controlling folks who want to watch these popular hill climbs could become a problem...
Does that mean Catford can no longer claim to be the oldest uninterrupted bicycle race in the world?
The club hill climb has very much declined in recent years, but not as badly as the downhill/freewheel which is a bit weird since you don't even have pedal on that one.
Winners and losers... those who advertised well, got a bumper crop of riders. I've been to 2 club HC with 30 riders in September.
The one organised by Beacon RCC even had some superstars of the sport in it... it was almost like an Open event.
Overall, the numbers are growing rather than shrinking, but clubs need to learn to advertise their events beyond their membership.
picking your large brains here...
DNS/DNS(A) in the results page, what's the difference? Is the latter when you have the courtesy to inform the organiser?
Basically, yeah. The A means apologised.
The club hill climb has very much declined in recent years, but not as badly as the downhill/freewheel which is a bit weird since you don't even have pedal on that one.
Winners and losers... those who advertised well, got a bumper crop of riders. I've been to 2 club HC with 30 riders in September.
The one organised by Beacon RCC even had some superstars of the sport in it... it was almost like an Open event.
Overall, the numbers are growing rather than shrinking, but clubs need to learn to advertise their events beyond their membership.
Jonathon Schubert edition of the RRA Interviews is well worth a listen, as are all of them.
https://soundcloud.com/user-971271891-227782844
Ian Cammish records being taken leads on nicely to the most recent RRA interview with Harry Walker. He speaks about his early obsessions with aero equipment, much of which he built himself or co designed. He who holds the 25miles record which he took riding on a custom aerodynamic steel and carbon fixed gear bike he designed to adopt the Obree position.
My understanding around what you say, and what Karla has mentioned, around the hip angle and saddle positioning is more around fit. I assume that it is still working around a similar starting point of a fairly steep seat tube angle. Or is there a move to slackening seat tube angle as well?
Jonathan Schubert set a new RRA (i.e. straight out) 100 record today: 3:08:14 provisional. It was an Ian Cammish record he took, so that's quite some scalp!
Jonathan Schubert set a new RRA (i.e. straight out) 100 record today: 3:08:14 provisional. It was an Ian Cammish record he took, so that's quite some scalp!
Shoobs is going again today. Starting in 10mins. He's targetting sub 3hrs.
Jonathan Schubert set a new RRA (i.e. straight out) 100 record today: 3:08:14 provisional. It was an Ian Cammish record he took, so that's quite some scalp!
Shoobs is going again today. Starting in 10mins. He's targetting sub 3hrs.
is the key part of his strategy to wait for a gale force tailwind? today is a good day then!
(i was soft pedalling at 40kph traveling north east last friday, with no wind noise in my ears)
provisional 02:57:58.
I’ve raced on most of the roads used, albeit at weekends. They’re busy but I wouldn’t call them dangerous.
Anyway as LWaB says there’s safety regs with RRA attempts.
Just read about this, are there any regulations around bikes, weather conditions, tailwinds etc for these kind of things?
I wonder how the team worked on roundabouts - on one Youtube clip I saw, it looked as if they have made sure his entry onto the roundabout was clear.
Having helped at a number of RRA attempts ( in fact successful events). There certainly were ( it’s some years ago) very strict rules about helpers passing the riders . In these more technical days, there’s more possibility of radio contact to static direction marshalls of course - I’d need to check the current rules.I wonder how the team worked on roundabouts - on one Youtube clip I saw, it looked as if they have made sure his entry onto the roundabout was clear.
I'm pretty sure they would not have been allowed to do that by the RRA observers.
Having TTd on some similar roads I'd say as a car driver you would be surprised at how much visibility and time is available to you approaching a RAB at 35mph (in my dreams) compared to 60mph in a car.
I wonder how the team worked on roundabouts - on one Youtube clip I saw, it looked as if they have made sure his entry onto the roundabout was clear.
I'm pretty sure they would not have been allowed to do that by the RRA observers.
Having TTd on some similar roads I'd say as a car driver you would be surprised at how much visibility and time is available to you approaching a RAB at 35mph (in my dreams) compared to 60mph in a car.
Skinsuits aren't terribly expensive and can be had second hand. You need to concentrate on the fit, though. I could swear by old standard skinsuit is faster than the tripsuit I used in 2019 - it gathered too much around the shoulders.
Velotoze are 20 quid or tape over your laces.
Move your bars down or further forward. Get someone to take photos of you side on and then compare to other riders. You sometimes lose a bit of power going lower but the aero gain is more in mph.
Andy Wilkinson - Doing It My Way[/url], recorded after his 2011 record. Andy will probably be out on the Mersey circuit when you do it, so make sure to bask in the presence of greatness!
Note that the organisers are moving away from using the Prees-Espley stretch too much, so the main leg is likely to be more Shawbirch-Espley heavy. This means you'll likely need any supporters to move between Espley for the main circuit and Prees for the Quina Brook circuit, rather than just staying at Prees all the time.
Note that the organisers are moving away from using the Prees-Espley stretch too much, so the main leg is likely to be more Shawbirch-Espley heavy. This means you'll likely need any supporters to move between Espley for the main circuit and Prees for the Quina Brook circuit, rather than just staying at Prees all the time.
That's a bit of a bugger for the less agile support crews. Should be faster though.
Jumping into the tail end of this thread if thats ok.
Id like to give a 24 hour TT a bash. Like one of the other OP's I'm not up for buying an all out TT bike and will be repurposing my endurance bike which is comfortable enough for me to plough away on for a long stretch.
Its a disc set up and Ive got some aero bars with shifters on it,
Beyond dropping the spacers on the aero bars in increments as I learn to manage/hold the position, and wearing aero clothing is there anything else that I should be zeroing in on at this early stage?
I don't have a power meter either.
Thx.
Prees-Espley is faster than Shawbirch-Espley, no? Or have they resurfaced the southern bit now? I've not ridden it since 2015.
The best single thing IMHO is a series of video interviews done with Andy Wilkinson about 10 years ago. I've not seen them for a while, but they are up on YouTube somewhere.
There's also a very good podcast on it by Mike Broadwith.
Note that the organisers are moving away from using the Prees-Espley stretch too much, so the main leg is likely to be more Shawbirch-Espley heavy. This means you'll likely need any supporters to move between Espley for the main circuit and Prees for the Quina Brook circuit, rather than just staying at Prees all the time.
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Do you have any idea if this intended change to have more of the event on the Shawbirch-Espley section is likely to include the night circuit as well or will it be just during the daytime?
Will it lengthen the night circuit to Prees-Shawbirch-Press or send you down to do laps of Shawbirch-Espley section overnight?
I have ridden a few of these 24 hour TT events in recent years - 7 in 5 years, in fact... although that pales into insignificance soemwhat vs George Berwick, Lynne Biddulph, Steve Abraham et al.
I would highly recommend, in fact I do regularly recommend, riding the Mersey 24 to anyone. I don't think that I have met anyone who has ever regretted it and the atmosphere before, during and after the event is first rate. Lots of people seem to swear that they'll never do it again before immediately planning how they can go just a little bit further next time.
- For me, nutrition is the key to the whole event. See Michael Hutchinson's article in Cycling Weekly about long distance TTs being an uncomfortable eating competition. There was more than a little truth in that. Find drinks, food and gels that don't irritate your tummy. Start eating and drinking an hour before the race and don't stop until an hour after.
- Smile and enjoy it, say hi to all the other riders and feed off their energy. I have had lots of great conversations and cheers from people out on the road and many people you'll see over and over during the race. I have certainly made a good few friends for life through this event.
- Minimise your stops. There really is no need to stop, apart from perhaps to put lights on or take them off... but even that is debatable. I wish I had concentrated on this more when I rode my first one in 2015 when I stopped for about 20 minutes, I guess because I just thought that that was what people did. In 2019, I managed to stop for about 2 mins 15 and about 45 sec of that was because I had a stuck zip on my top.
If you do have any questions that I might be able to answer, about the Mersey, or the US 24, or long distance TTs in general then just ask and I will try my best :)
Jumping into the tail end of this thread if thats ok.
Id like to give a 24 hour TT a bash. Like one of the other OP's I'm not up for buying an all out TT bike and will be repurposing my endurance bike which is comfortable enough for me to plough away on for a long stretch.
Its a disc set up and Ive got some aero bars with shifters on it,
Beyond dropping the spacers on the aero bars in increments as I learn to manage/hold the position, and wearing aero clothing is there anything else that I should be zeroing in on at this early stage?
I don't have a power meter either.
Thx.
I think a lot of the organisers are staying out of the debate by removing prize money from their events.Does this mean they will go back to the old ways of trophies and medals, or even before that with items such as canteens of cutlery?
I think a lot of the organisers are staying out of the debate by removing prize money from their events.Does this mean they will go back to the old ways of trophies and medals, or even before that with items such as canteens of cutlery?
My core time trial days span late 60s to early 80s (since 1981 I rode only a few a year), and the very few medals I have mean something to me. My faster clubmates have boxes full of medals and little trophies, most of which mean little or nothing to them because they have so many. I imagine they were happier when money prizes became more common.
Amazing - not that long ago that I was trying to get 150psi in my tyres and hoping the rims didn't explode!
Cool bike. What gearing(s) are you planning on using?
Amazing - not that long ago that I was trying to get 150psi in my tyres and hoping the rims didn't explode!
I made a supersonic inner tube explode at a lot less than that... ;D... it happened as I was warming up, 10 minutes before my start time in a 10 TT... I limped to the car, managed to replace the inner tube and put some air in it... and was on the line 30 seconds before I was due
That's a big gear, but at least you won't spin out! I was running 94" max 2 years ago when I was TTing on fixed. I only managed to spin out once with a massive tailwind on a dual carriageway course. It was really painful pushing back into the headwind! https://www.strava.com/activities/2627238193Cool bike. What gearing(s) are you planning on using?
I think 103" is probably what I need based on 78rpm = 23.92mph, the key will be training to be able to push it in headwinds or slopes.
That's a big gear, but at least you won't spin out! I was running 94" max 2 years ago when I was TTing on fixed. I only managed to spin out once with a massive tailwind on a dual carriageway course. It was really painful pushing back into the headwind! https://www.strava.com/activities/2627238193Cool bike. What gearing(s) are you planning on using?
I think 103" is probably what I need based on 78rpm = 23.92mph, the key will be training to be able to push it in headwinds or slopes.
Note that the organisers are moving away from using the Prees-Espley stretch too much, so the main leg is likely to be more Shawbirch-Espley heavy. This means you'll likely need any supporters to move between Espley for the main circuit and Prees for the Quina Brook circuit, rather than just staying at Prees all the time.
That's a bit of a bugger for the less agile support crews. Should be faster though.
Did a 10 on Saturday, in 23:42. Given I'd done 22:47 on the same course during the week, I was a bit annoyed :-\
TBH, I always found the lack of comparability from course to course and day to day a bit frustrating when I was racing TTs regularly - was a short 23 on the H10/3 better than a mid 21 on the P613? I was kicking myself that I did my PB (21:01) on what others regarded to be a 'float' day... My next best (21:03) was a much stronger ride...
Time is not comparable but power output is. Most people who are serious about TT (and even many who aren't) have a power meter.I never had a power meter when I was racing on the road, and I don't have a road-going one now. No idea whatsoever what kind of power I put out 20 years ago. My FTP is 286W, but that's indoors and probably not replicable in a TT position.
Ultimately (and I might be a minority in thinking this way) it's a race, so it's about beating as many competitors as possible, irrespective of the time... in my case not very many...But that's purely a function of how strong the field is. If I've pulled out all the stops and come last in a great field, that's a better ride than finishing mid-table in a Wobbly Wheelers 10 with a mediocre ride, surely?
I take more pleasure being mid way through the leader board with an average time than being last with a PB
I never had a power meter when I was racing on the road, and I don't have a road-going one now. No idea whatsoever what kind of power I put out 20 years ago. My FTP is 286W, but that's indoors and probably not replicable in a TT position.
I noticed a report today CTT is potless, in financial meltdown and in trouble, guess its being brewing for awhile, locally timetrials are not well supported any more.
I noticed a report today CTT is potless, in financial meltdown and in trouble, guess its being brewing for awhile, locally timetrials are not well supported any more.
Cue a takeover by British Cycling. That'll raise a few hackles.
road bike only evening TTs
Quoteroad bike only evening TTs
Great - that is exactly what is needed to get new folks into the sport.
Yet it doesn't exclude current TT riders who will almost certainly have a road bike as well.
What part of the country will that be?
North NorthantsNow there's a coincidence.
Good Work.
Let's hope they listen to you....
QuoteNorth NorthantsNow there's a coincidence.
I was born and raised in Northants, and still have tenuous links to Kettering CC.
I now live too far away to enter your evening 10s, but I wish you much success.
Can I make a plug here for the rule to allow recumbents in their own category?
If you're in a CTT-affiliated club, tell them you want your district to vote for this!
That's it. That's the plug. Thankyou.
We've had a road bike category in our club TTs at Hillingdon in London for about 10 years. Nowadays it gets the majority of the entries.
We also have had the odd recumbent, although not enough to ever set up a separate category.
It is not widely known, but CTT allows recumbents in certain circumstances e.g. paralympic riders - in the rules under Competitor's Machine. The rider has to get dispensation from the CTT. Locally, we have a woman hand cyclist who has done this.You assume correctly!
The fact that this already exists (and has done for some years) may help the argument to allow lay-z-boy machines in time trials. I assume that fairings etc would still be forbidden - unless a special case is made for recumbents.
Based on yesterday's District meeting, this is 50:50 to go through:. The objections being almost entirely that they wouldn't be "safe" on many of our courses.
(Because visibility, mainly. Some paranoia about downhill speeds too. )
We've had a road bike category in our club TTs at Hillingdon in London for about 10 years. Nowadays it gets the majority of the entries.
We also have had the odd recumbent, although not enough to ever set up a separate category.
I am not surprised, I can't see many TT bikes being sold in the next few years. Between the looming recession and the staggering cost of new bikes, I think the N+1 will be a thing of the past very soon (if it's not already) and if I can only have one decent bike, it won't be a time trial one.
Based on yesterday's District meeting, this is 50:50 to go through:. The objections being almost entirely that they wouldn't be "safe" on many of our courses.
(Because visibility, mainly. Some paranoia about downhill speeds too. )
I don't understand why they are considered safe enough to ride on public roads, but not safe enough to race on public roads on the grounds of visibility...
We've had a road bike category in our club TTs at Hillingdon in London for about 10 years. Nowadays it gets the majority of the entries.
We also have had the odd recumbent, although not enough to ever set up a separate category.
I am not surprised, I can't see many TT bikes being sold in the next few years. Between the looming recession and the staggering cost of new bikes, I think the N+1 will be a thing of the past very soon (if it's not already) and if I can only have one decent bike, it won't be a time trial one.
The money for manufacturers is in triathlon. Selling the same, or similar bikes for U.K. time trialling is a minor, if associated, market.
CTT don’t follow UCI rules on bikes of course, so triathlon bikes are attractive to U.K. time trial riders.
There's 2 things that will probably mean I'm done with the sport.
1. Potential disappearance of the Mersey Roads.
2. Changing the format of the BBAR to remove the 12hr.
These are competitions I dreamt about as a Junior. Probably the only bit of a sport I ever managed to get good at.
There's 2 things that will probably mean I'm done with the sport.
1. Potential disappearance of the Mersey Roads.
2. Changing the format of the BBAR to remove the 12hr.
These are competitions I dreamt about as a Junior. Probably the only bit of a sport I ever managed to get good at.
With respect to no. 2. It's funny, because the rationale for changing the BBAR and bringing it in line with the women competition is down to interest... basically very few are prepared to ride a 12h and unless you have a realistic chance of winning the BBAR, you're not going to a 12h, just to say you've done the BBAR... obviously you are the exception.
Numbers show that long distances are less and less popular... at club level, you won't find many that have a 50 mile race in their calendar and some clubs don't even have 25 anymore.
The future is in shorter races, I can see more 5 in the future, they are more attractive to younger riders... kind of get it all out, rather than pace the effort.
Even from an organiser point of view, the effort involved in a very short TT is a fraction of that of a very long TT.
Incidentally, even at 50yo, my favourite distance is around 5 miles
There's 2 things that will probably mean I'm done with the sport.
1. Potential disappearance of the Mersey Roads.
2. Changing the format of the BBAR to remove the 12hr.
These are competitions I dreamt about as a Junior. Probably the only bit of a sport I ever managed to get good at.
With respect to no. 2. It's funny, because the rationale for changing the BBAR and bringing it in line with the women competition is down to interest... basically very few are prepared to ride a 12h and unless you have a realistic chance of winning the BBAR, you're not going to a 12h, just to say you've done the BBAR... obviously you are the exception.
Numbers show that long distances are less and less popular... at club level, you won't find many that have a 50 mile race in their calendar and some clubs don't even have 25 anymore.
The future is in shorter races, I can see more 5 in the future, they are more attractive to younger riders... kind of get it all out, rather than pace the effort.
Even from an organiser point of view, the effort involved in a very short TT is a fraction of that of a very long TT.
Incidentally, even at 50yo, my favourite distance is around 5 miles
Just getting a BBAR certificate used to be a huge thing and I am very proud of the handful I have. As you say, I'm pretty much the exception these days. My abilities over shorter distances are nothing to write home about but I was briefly one of the better longer distance testers in the UK. The sport will evolve or just disappear, but I won't change that.
Based on yesterday's District meeting, this is 50:50 to go through:. The objections being almost entirely that they wouldn't be "safe" on many of our courses.
(Because visibility, mainly. Some paranoia about downhill speeds too. )
There's 2 things that will probably mean I'm done with the sport.
1. Potential disappearance of the Mersey Roads.
2. Changing the format of the BBAR to remove the 12hr.
These are competitions I dreamt about as a Junior. Probably the only bit of a sport I ever managed to get good at.
With respect to no. 2. It's funny, because the rationale for changing the BBAR and bringing it in line with the women competition is down to interest... basically very few are prepared to ride a 12h and unless you have a realistic chance of winning the BBAR, you're not going to a 12h, just to say you've done the BBAR... obviously you are the exception.
Numbers show that long distances are less and less popular... at club level, you won't find many that have a 50 mile race in their calendar and some clubs don't even have 25 anymore.
The future is in shorter races, I can see more 5 in the future, they are more attractive to younger riders... kind of get it all out, rather than pace the effort.
Even from an organiser point of view, the effort involved in a very short TT is a fraction of that of a very long TT.
Incidentally, even at 50yo, my favourite distance is around 5 miles
Just getting a BBAR certificate used to be a huge thing and I am very proud of the handful I have. As you say, I'm pretty much the exception these days. My abilities over shorter distances are nothing to write home about but I was briefly one of the better longer distance testers in the UK. The sport will evolve or just disappear, but I won't change that.
The certificate itself is a huge error. It should not be based on average speed, which inevitably rewards the TT bikes and the fast courses, things that CTT should encourage people to move away from. I think a certificate should be issued regardless of average speed.
There's 2 things that will probably mean I'm done with the sport.
1. Potential disappearance of the Mersey Roads.
2. Changing the format of the BBAR to remove the 12hr.
These are competitions I dreamt about as a Junior. Probably the only bit of a sport I ever managed to get good at.
With respect to no. 2. It's funny, because the rationale for changing the BBAR and bringing it in line with the women competition is down to interest... basically very few are prepared to ride a 12h and unless you have a realistic chance of winning the BBAR, you're not going to a 12h, just to say you've done the BBAR... obviously you are the exception.
Numbers show that long distances are less and less popular... at club level, you won't find many that have a 50 mile race in their calendar and some clubs don't even have 25 anymore.
The future is in shorter races, I can see more 5 in the future, they are more attractive to younger riders... kind of get it all out, rather than pace the effort.
Even from an organiser point of view, the effort involved in a very short TT is a fraction of that of a very long TT.
Incidentally, even at 50yo, my favourite distance is around 5 miles
Just getting a BBAR certificate used to be a huge thing and I am very proud of the handful I have. As you say, I'm pretty much the exception these days. My abilities over shorter distances are nothing to write home about but I was briefly one of the better longer distance testers in the UK. The sport will evolve or just disappear, but I won't change that.
The certificate itself is a huge error. It should not be based on average speed, which inevitably rewards the TT bikes and the fast courses, things that CTT should encourage people to move away from. I think a certificate should be issued regardless of average speed.
Have you got one ?
There's 2 things that will probably mean I'm done with the sport.
1. Potential disappearance of the Mersey Roads.
2. Changing the format of the BBAR to remove the 12hr.
These are competitions I dreamt about as a Junior. Probably the only bit of a sport I ever managed to get good at.
With respect to no. 2. It's funny, because the rationale for changing the BBAR and bringing it in line with the women competition is down to interest... basically very few are prepared to ride a 12h and unless you have a realistic chance of winning the BBAR, you're not going to a 12h, just to say you've done the BBAR... obviously you are the exception.
Numbers show that long distances are less and less popular... at club level, you won't find many that have a 50 mile race in their calendar and some clubs don't even have 25 anymore.
The future is in shorter races, I can see more 5 in the future, they are more attractive to younger riders... kind of get it all out, rather than pace the effort.
Even from an organiser point of view, the effort involved in a very short TT is a fraction of that of a very long TT.
Incidentally, even at 50yo, my favourite distance is around 5 miles
Just getting a BBAR certificate used to be a huge thing and I am very proud of the handful I have. As you say, I'm pretty much the exception these days. My abilities over shorter distances are nothing to write home about but I was briefly one of the better longer distance testers in the UK. The sport will evolve or just disappear, but I won't change that.
The certificate itself is a huge error. It should not be based on average speed, which inevitably rewards the TT bikes and the fast courses, things that CTT should encourage people to move away from. I think a certificate should be issued regardless of average speed.
Have you got one ?
Nope... I have a road bike, 23mph for 12 hours is way beyond me. Maybe I can do a 50 at 23mph... at a push on a very fast course I might be able to do a 100...
… train hard and get off the cake…I sometimes wonder whether what's killing it is the training.
But then, I always thought of training as a mild form of cheating, i.e. something I would never stoop to, and that probably explains some of my results ;D ;D ;D
… train hard and get off the cake…I sometimes wonder whether what's killing it is the training.
Of course it would be daft to argue that no-one should train. But the ethos of time trialling in the past seemed to be that you could turn up and try it. And some people at least appeared to ride with the club, go touring, and then race for fun. If you liked it, then you started training. Maybe.
The image now, I think, is that not only do you need to have a £10k bike unlike anything you can find in Halfords (or any other shop you've ever seen), but also you need to have spent £100s on a bike-fitting session, three years training, and got the services of a coach, before you should even think about turning up. At least, that's how Cycling Weekly depicts it. You might of course apply a similar argument to road and track, which aren't in quite the same state, but that's still how it feels to me.
But then, I always thought of training as a mild form of cheating, i.e. something I would never stoop to, and that probably explains some of my results ;D ;D ;D
Maybe, but people do like training.Of course. It's just that I think it should be try it first, then train to get better, not the other way around. Cycling seems to be particularly prone to reversing things. But that may just be me trying to get out of doing it properly ;D
Maybe, but people do like training.Of course. It's just that I think it should be try it first, then train to get better, not the other way around. Cycling seems to be particularly prone to reversing things. But that may just be me trying to get out of doing it properly ;D
training as a mild form of cheating
The BHPC is that way -->
It's funny that YOU say that ...Based on yesterday's District meeting, this is 50:50 to go through:. The objections being almost entirely that they wouldn't be "safe" on many of our courses.
(Because visibility, mainly. Some paranoia about downhill speeds too. )
I don't understand why they are considered safe enough to ride on public roads, but not safe enough to race on public roads on the grounds of visibility...
It's funny that YOU say that ...Based on yesterday's District meeting, this is 50:50 to go through:. The objections being almost entirely that they wouldn't be "safe" on many of our courses.
(Because visibility, mainly. Some paranoia about downhill speeds too. )
I don't understand why they are considered safe enough to ride on public roads, but not safe enough to race on public roads on the grounds of visibility...
Because the people objecting on "safety" grounds were the same people who wanted safety hats for riding on the public highway in CTT events.
training as a mild form of cheating
The BHPC is that way -->
While I spent little time with the BHPC (and never inhaled) I was under the impression that training was allowed but considered much less effective than all the other better ways of going faster, like engineering.
a different pub a bit further away
training as a mild form of cheating
The BHPC is that way -->
While I spent little time with the BHPC (and never inhaled) I was under the impression that training was allowed but considered much less effective than all the other better ways of going faster, like engineering.
Training: riding to the pub
Advanced training: riding to a different pub a bit further away
I guarantee you'd take a different view on something that impacted on YOU! :-DIt's funny that YOU say that ...Based on yesterday's District meeting, this is 50:50 to go through:. The objections being almost entirely that they wouldn't be "safe" on many of our courses.
(Because visibility, mainly. Some paranoia about downhill speeds too. )
I don't understand why they are considered safe enough to ride on public roads, but not safe enough to race on public roads on the grounds of visibility...
Because the people objecting on "safety" grounds were the same people who wanted safety hats for riding on the public highway in CTT events.
It’s not that I wanted them, but it did make sense to go with the flow. All other competitive events require them, so why not TT? More to the point, I don’t see why this had to be a deal breaker… anyway, pointless to reopen a can of worms.
The finest sort of training.training as a mild form of cheating
The BHPC is that way -->
While I spent little time with the BHPC (and never inhaled) I was under the impression that training was allowed but considered much less effective than all the other better ways of going faster, like engineering.
Training: riding to the pub
Advanced training: riding to a different pub a bit further away
We do that each Wednesday, but in an upright fashion (even homeward).
Hill climbs feel safer - lower speeds - and more people by the side of the road which alerts most motorists to the presence of cyclists.
I guarantee you'd take a different view on something that impacted on YOU! :-DLike costing you the chance to participate for half a season. Or at all, if you're even less lucky than me. But all this is expounded up-thread, and NFR was part of that discussion then.
The main issue with TTs is that most of the times they are still very old fashioned and it’s difficult to involve the new generations. Distances which are often too long, courses which are way too busy with fast traffic, course codes that are not explained,,,,
There is at least one local club who operates differently, although they do so under TLI rather than CTT. Their average age is considerably younger, they don’t use dual carriages and their numbers are very healthy. They even manage to attract decent numbers at their Open, which has a proper double figure hill in the middle.Please name this club.
The main issue with TTs is that most of the times they are still very old fashioned and it’s difficult to involve the new generations. Distances which are often too long, courses which are way too busy with fast traffic, course codes that are not explained,,,,QuoteThere is at least one local club who operates differently, although they do so under TLI rather than CTT. Their average age is considerably younger, they don’t use dual carriages and their numbers are very healthy. They even manage to attract decent numbers at their Open, which has a proper double figure hill in the middle.Please name this club.
Banbury StarNice one. Thank you. :thumbsup:
The main issue with TTs is that most of the times they are still very old fashioned and it’s difficult to involve the new generations. Distances which are often too long, courses which are way too busy with fast traffic, course codes that are not explained, a historic tendency to operate in secret and yes, people who moan because they want wind in their hair, like it was back in the days.
There are more rides by the over 70s than there are by the under 20s… that is frightening!
The main issue with TTs is that most of the times they are still very old fashioned and it’s difficult to involve the new generations. Distances which are often too long, courses which are way too busy with fast traffic, course codes that are not explained, a historic tendency to operate in secret and yes, people who moan because they want wind in their hair, like it was back in the days.
There are more rides by the over 70s than there are by the under 20s… that is frightening!
I don't claim to be fast, or even young, and my TT experience is inna BHPC trying-not-to-wipe-out-going-clockwise-round-the-hairpin-at-Darley-Moor style. But while I'm happy to mix with traffic at audax pace, the prospect of trying to ride flat out while maintaining awareness of a) traffic and 2) dubious road surfaces really does not appeal.
The main issue with TTs is that most of the times they are still very old fashioned and it’s difficult to involve the new generations. Distances which are often too long, courses which are way too busy with fast traffic, course codes that are not explained, a historic tendency to operate in secret and yes, people who moan because they want wind in their hair, like it was back in the days.
There are more rides by the over 70s than there are by the under 20s… that is frightening!
I don't claim to be fast, or even young, and my TT experience is inna BHPC trying-not-to-wipe-out-going-clockwise-round-the-hairpin-at-Darley-Moor style. But while I'm happy to mix with traffic at audax pace, the prospect of trying to ride flat out while maintaining awareness of a) traffic and 2) dubious road surfaces really does not appeal.
The main issue with TTs is that most of the times they are still very old fashioned and it’s difficult to involve the new generations. Distances which are often too long, courses which are way too busy with fast traffic, course codes that are not explained, a historic tendency to operate in secret and yes, people who moan because they want wind in their hair, like it was back in the days.
There are more rides by the over 70s than there are by the under 20s… that is frightening!
I don't claim to be fast, or even young, and my TT experience is inna BHPC trying-not-to-wipe-out-going-clockwise-round-the-hairpin-at-Darley-Moor style. But while I'm happy to mix with traffic at audax pace, the prospect of trying to ride flat out while maintaining awareness of a) traffic and 2) dubious road surfaces really does not appeal.
It's interesting. I have never felt unsafe racing on a DC. I have used the E2, B courses on the A11 and H courses on the A31. I never raced Etwall which is the other 'fast' piece of road popular with testers. When you are flying along at 30mph you don't seem to notice.
I have, however, marshalled a few times and the behaviour and speed of traffic has scared me. It must be down to perception.
My helpers on the Mersey 24 said the roads felt very busy but I never noticed it when racing.
The main issue with TTs is that most of the times they are still very old fashioned and it’s difficult to involve the new generations. Distances which are often too long, courses which are way too busy with fast traffic, course codes that are not explained, a historic tendency to operate in secret and yes, people who moan because they want wind in their hair, like it was back in the days.
There are more rides by the over 70s than there are by the under 20s… that is frightening!
I don't claim to be fast, or even young, and my TT experience is inna BHPC trying-not-to-wipe-out-going-clockwise-round-the-hairpin-at-Darley-Moor style. But while I'm happy to mix with traffic at audax pace, the prospect of trying to ride flat out while maintaining awareness of a) traffic and 2) dubious road surfaces really does not appeal.
It's interesting. I have never felt unsafe racing on a DC. I have used the E2, B courses on the A11 and H courses on the A31. I never raced Etwall which is the other 'fast' piece of road popular with testers. When you are flying along at 30mph you don't seem to notice.
I have, however, marshalled a few times and the behaviour and speed of traffic has scared me. It must be down to perception.
My helpers on the Mersey 24 said the roads felt very busy but I never noticed it when racing.
Probably a relative speed thing, traffic's less scary with a lower speed differential.
The problem I find that is the faster I go, the more mundane things like crosswinds and crap road surfaces add to TEH FEAR. My general perception of the threat of fast motor traffic is that it's what I'm going to end up under if I fall off my bike, rather than them driving into me.
The point is not whether you feel safe or whether you are indeed safe, the point is can you get a youngster to race a TT on the A46? If the answer is no, then you have a problem…
It is easier to move to a more beginner friendly course, than it is to convince them that the A46 is safe.
One of the problem of the old skool side of CTT is that they believe the latter is the easier thing to do
The point is not whether you feel safe or whether you are indeed safe, the point is can you get a youngster to race a TT on the A46? If the answer is no, then you have a problem…
It is easier to move to a more beginner friendly course, than it is to convince them that the A46 is safe.
One of the problem of the old skool side of CTT is that they believe the latter is the easier thing to do
Purely playing devils advocate here but I'm PB chasing after investing in training and kit, what do I care if a youngster wants to race on the same bit of road ?
That's already happening.
https://teesside.ctt.org.uk/news/348-croft-10-mile-time-trial-series-dates-2022
The point is not whether you feel safe or whether you are indeed safe, the point is can you get a youngster to race a TT on the A46? If the answer is no, then you have a problem…
It is easier to move to a more beginner friendly course, than it is to convince them that the A46 is safe.
One of the problem of the old skool side of CTT is that they believe the latter is the easier thing to do
Purely playing devils advocate here but I'm PB chasing after investing in training and kit, what do I care if a youngster wants to race on the same bit of road ?
That's already happening.
https://teesside.ctt.org.uk/news/348-croft-10-mile-time-trial-series-dates-2022
My helpers on the Mersey 24 said the roads felt very busy but I never noticed it when racing.I've ridden, helped and marshalled on the 24hr cicuits and nothing about my experiences with traffic interactions in any of those three would put me off from riding it again.
That's already happening.
https://teesside.ctt.org.uk/news/348-croft-10-mile-time-trial-series-dates-2022
That sort of thing makes more sense to me, at least for PB-chasing. Safer, and fewer factors you can't control. Like a boring version of a BHPC event.
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Out of idle interest, I tried to find out what the 24hr record at my local velodrome is. Best I can find is from around the 1920s and it's a long way out of the reach of hobby cycling...
If Banbury Star is local to you then Bicester Millennium might be too - they used to have a regular Wednesday night 10, with the odd 25 and 4 up, on the Weston on the Green aerodrome. I think they were a fiver. Dunno if it restarted after Covid (I've not been able to TT since then), but there used to be a real mix from kids to proper fast people (Charlie Quarterman holds the course record).That's already happening.
https://teesside.ctt.org.uk/news/348-croft-10-mile-time-trial-series-dates-2022
Yes, we have some round here too… to be fair, I like them more than the road stuff, but typically they involve a longer car journey and a heftier entry fee… although not as bad as other cycling events like sportive
If Banbury Star is local to you then Bicester Millennium might be too - they used to have a regular Wednesday night 10, with the odd 25 and 4 up, on the Weston on the Green aerodrome. I think they were a fiver. Dunno if it restarted after Covid (I've not been able to TT since then), but there used to be a real mix from kids to proper fast people (Charlie Quarterman holds the course record).That's already happening.
https://teesside.ctt.org.uk/news/348-croft-10-mile-time-trial-series-dates-2022
Yes, we have some round here too… to be fair, I like them more than the road stuff, but typically they involve a longer car journey and a heftier entry fee… although not as bad as other cycling events like sportive
Out of idle interest, I tried to find out what the 24hr record at my local velodrome is. Best I can find is from around the 1920s and it's a long way out of the reach of hobby cycling...That's already happening.
https://teesside.ctt.org.uk/news/348-croft-10-mile-time-trial-series-dates-2022
That sort of thing makes more sense to me, at least for PB-chasing. Safer, and fewer factors you can't control. Like a boring version of a BHPC event.
PB chasing is the big issue... Nowhere else in the world does anyone understand this.Actually that would make cycling the unusual sport. Running, for example, appears to understand the idea of personal bests perfectly well, and world records, in any sport, are just the best personal best ever. They are in no way incompatible with trying to beat the current field.
PB chasing is the big issue... Nowhere else in the world does anyone understand this.Actually that would make cycling the unusual sport. Running, for example, appears to understand the idea of personal bests perfectly well, and world records, in any sport, are just the best personal best ever. They are in no way incompatible with trying to beat the current field.
For those of us who will never trouble the top half of the results sheet in any serious event, personal bests are a really good thing to go for. And everyone chasing a PB does it by trying to get a go on the fastest course/track/ski slope/whatever.
But I still haven't ridden a DC course in decades :P
Yes, it's not far from there to this, is it?
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Yes, it's not far from there to this, is it?
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Maybe not, but the current 10 mile record stands at somewhere close to 60 km/h... I can't help thinking that in the absence of heavy traffic, that number would be considerably lower.
Yes, it's not far from there to this, is it?
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Maybe not, but the current 10 mile record stands at somewhere close to 60 km/h... I can't help thinking that in the absence of heavy traffic, that number would be considerably lower.
Also, though, set by a pro who went on to break every record between 10 and 100 (except the 30). Right day, right conditions but exceptional talent.
Marcin passed me in a 100 once. I did a 3:45 and it was like I was standing still. Unfortunately he was DQ’d for going off course. He broke the record on a different course a month later.
Marcin passed me in a 100 once. I did a 3:45 and it was like I was standing still. Unfortunately he was DQ’d for going off course. He broke the record on a different course a month later.
The point is that when he did the 10 record, he broke it by 45 seconds... which is an immense amount, it means 4.5 seconds per mile, it's the difference between a top class time triallist and a decent domestique at the Tour. That can only happen if you find some "help" along the way... being that the perfect string of trucks, the perfect weather conditions with high temperature and high humidity but low pressure... all of which put the time on the shelves until someone else of a similar calibre finds an even better day.
Marcin passed me in a 100 once. I did a 3:45 and it was like I was standing still. Unfortunately he was DQ’d for going off course. He broke the record on a different course a month later.
The point is that when he did the 10 record, he broke it by 45 seconds... which is an immense amount, it means 4.5 seconds per mile, it's the difference between a top class time triallist and a decent domestique at the Tour. That can only happen if you find some "help" along the way... being that the perfect string of trucks, the perfect weather conditions with high temperature and high humidity but low pressure... all of which put the time on the shelves until someone else of a similar calibre finds an even better day.
But this is the history of the sport. Engers took 1.5 mins off the 25 record and it stood for 12 years. After a couple of changes, Boardman took another 2 mins off and that record stood for 16 years. You see a generational shift. I think the difference for me was how good Marcin was over such a range of distances/times. Training for a 10 and training for a 100 are different things. How fast would he have been if he specialised ?
I don't know... normally the best at 10 is also the best at 25 and likely to be the best at 50 and 100 if they have the inclination... it's only with the 12h that things change.
Only Liverpool voted for the recumbent proposal.
What a shame. As with helmets, lights, 3cm and the rest, CTT continue to uphold the principle that 'safety' issues are best dealt with by uninformed speculation.
[EDIT: I see they voted down the lights in hillclimbs proposal too.]
Only Liverpool voted for the recumbent proposal.
What a shame. As with helmets, lights, 3cm and the rest, CTT continue to uphold the principle that 'safety' issues are best dealt with by uninformed speculation.
The " closed road" events are mostly airfields (or motor-racin circuits)Only Liverpool voted for the recumbent proposal.
What a shame. As with helmets, lights, 3cm and the rest, CTT continue to uphold the principle that 'safety' issues are best dealt with by uninformed speculation.
[EDIT: I see they voted down the lights in hillclimbs proposal too.]
I have done the all hill climb season. Haven’t come across anyone moaning about lights. The number of closed road events is very small, maybe one Open race in ten? And even those do not guarantee that the odd resident will not be on the road and don’t allow crossing of the white line if there is one. So, it was all a bit pointless.
The " closed road" events are mostly airfields (or motor-racin circuits)Only Liverpool voted for the recumbent proposal.
What a shame. As with helmets, lights, 3cm and the rest, CTT continue to uphold the principle that 'safety' issues are best dealt with by uninformed speculation.
[EDIT: I see they voted down the lights in hillclimbs proposal too.]
I have done the all hill climb season. Haven’t come across anyone moaning about lights. The number of closed road events is very small, maybe one Open race in ten? And even those do not guarantee that the odd resident will not be on the road and don’t allow crossing of the white line if there is one. So, it was all a bit pointless.
Ah, apologies. There were 2 motions, don't know which were passed (but surely it's insane to require lights on a Closed Road HC!?!):The " closed road" events are mostly airfields (or motor-racin circuits)Only Liverpool voted for the recumbent proposal.
What a shame. As with helmets, lights, 3cm and the rest, CTT continue to uphold the principle that 'safety' issues are best dealt with by uninformed speculation.
[EDIT: I see they voted down the lights in hillclimbs proposal too.]
I have done the all hill climb season. Haven’t come across anyone moaning about lights. The number of closed road events is very small, maybe one Open race in ten? And even those do not guarantee that the odd resident will not be on the road and don’t allow crossing of the white line if there is one. So, it was all a bit pointless.
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We were talking about hill climbs… the lights proposal was to remove the need for lights on closed Road events