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Charlotte

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Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« on: 30 July, 2014, 08:50:09 am »
It looks like we've been the target for a series of fast radio bursts, originating from outside the galaxy since at least 2001, possibly much further back.  There's a remote, but very real possibility that this isn't a natural phenomena and that it could actually be First Contact.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/187065-mysterious-fast-radio-bursts-from-outer-space-astronomers-baffled-suggest-they-could-be-alien-in-origin

There's a good analysis by boingboing's Maggie Koerth-Baker here:

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I included that last quote in the excerpt so that:
A) We are reminded to look at this news conservatively, with a cool head and clear eye.
B) We all know who to send mocking letters to if it turns out to be aliens.

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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #1 on: 30 July, 2014, 09:42:12 am »
You've got to see this in the bigger picture. Mattc's space geckos. The recent demolition of Didcot A's cooling towers. We know where they're going to land, we know who's guiding them in and we know who they are - extra-terrestrial audax lizards!
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #2 on: 30 July, 2014, 09:59:32 am »
Did it mention a lurgid bee?
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #3 on: 30 July, 2014, 01:11:42 pm »
In space, nobody can hear you confuse your singular and plural nouns.

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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #4 on: 30 July, 2014, 01:27:18 pm »
Glenn Miller aside, I hope it's not aliens, because I'm frankly embarrassed by the behaviour of my species.

Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #5 on: 30 July, 2014, 03:15:50 pm »
Dunno,  I think humanity would benefit from a good dose of Culture.....

Though I'm reminded of an early Clarke short story when humanity is briefly entered into the log of advanced species after discovering nuclear fission, only to be immediately removed when the aliens find what we've used it for  :(
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #6 on: 30 July, 2014, 03:24:25 pm »
Given the energies involved - 300,000 years of solar output per millisecond - if aliens are using them for signalling I'm not sure we'd want to meet.
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #7 on: 30 July, 2014, 05:06:42 pm »
Stephen Hawking said some time ago that he was sure that aliens were not visiting this planet because a) We'd certainly know about it and b) we'd certainly not be enjoying it.
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #8 on: 30 July, 2014, 05:14:37 pm »
All very interesting, a new natural phenomena to add to the list. Those of us old enough will recall the LGM records which turned out to be gamma ray bursts which we can now trace to find supernovas. Its fascinating - the logical engineer inside me thinks that given the huge energies involved if this was created by a civilisation, would this not have sterilised them at the same time?

Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #9 on: 30 July, 2014, 08:09:04 pm »
All very interesting, a new natural phenomena to add to the list. Those of us old enough will recall the LGM records which turned out to be gamma ray bursts which we can now trace to find supernovas. Its fascinating - the logical engineer inside me thinks that given the huge energies involved if this was created by a civilisation, would this not have sterilised them at the same time?

If such a civilisation was high enough up the Kardashev scale to be able to spam the universe in this fashion, you would think that they will have worked out how to avoid getting irradiated out of existence.
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #10 on: 30 July, 2014, 08:30:50 pm »
All very interesting, a new natural phenomena to add to the list. Those of us old enough will recall the LGM records which turned out to be gamma ray bursts which we can now trace to find supernovas. Its fascinating - the logical engineer inside me thinks that given the huge energies involved if this was created by a civilisation, would this not have sterilised them at the same time?

If such a civilisation was high enough up the Kardashev scale to be able to spam the universe in this fashion, you would think that they will have worked out how to avoid getting irradiated out of existence.

I hadn't thought of spam.  If it is First Contact, imagine how disappointed $SCIENTIST will be when it turns out to be adverts for "Vigara" and safely and naturally enhanced mortgages.
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #11 on: 30 July, 2014, 08:54:59 pm »
Or an intergalactic 419 scam, as theorised by Charles Stross in a spoof article for Nature magazine in 2005  ;D:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v436/n7054/full/4361206a.html
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #12 on: 31 July, 2014, 08:59:29 am »
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #13 on: 31 July, 2014, 09:52:10 am »
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Too right.  One of them manages the England foopball team.
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #14 on: 31 July, 2014, 10:27:06 am »
When they get here*, I just hope they don't behave like we did when we "discovered" the Americas and other remote places on this little rock. But then again would something that can travel at ludicrous speed do a pit stop here? If they travel at our current max speed they would have taken off way before we started to bang stones together.

* as said above if they get here we will know. And they will not look much like us either.

What I find funny in so many books and movies - alien land here, people run away erm they came from outer space, so you are only prolonging the time until the probe.
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #15 on: 31 July, 2014, 10:36:48 am »
How strange - I watched Contact recently.

Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #16 on: 31 July, 2014, 11:24:02 am »
Was the original discovery of this the 'Wow' incident? (Refers to notation made on print out at the time). I seem to recall a news item/programme containing a reference some years ago.
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #17 on: 31 July, 2014, 11:36:01 am »
I remembered that too and did a quick search - two years ago it was 35 years ago the wow signal was found.
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #18 on: 31 July, 2014, 11:41:45 am »
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;D :thumbsup:
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #19 on: 05 August, 2014, 09:10:57 am »
"We stand on a great threshold in the human history of space exploration. If life is prevalent in our neighbourhood of the galaxy, it is within our reach to be the first generation in human history to finally cross this threshold and learn if there is life of any kind beyond Earth."
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #21 on: 05 August, 2014, 07:30:38 pm »
I, for one, welcome our alien overlords!   :thumbsup:

Just so long as they look like Mothra!   :D

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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #22 on: 05 August, 2014, 11:20:59 pm »
It appears,one of the most promising ET home planets has disappeared off the radar:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25842-first-lifefriendly-exoplanet-may-not-exist-after-all.html#.U-FX8ONdXTo
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Re: Fast Radio Bursts: is this First Contact?
« Reply #23 on: 06 August, 2014, 02:07:12 pm »
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