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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #25 on: 07 July, 2011, 07:42:21 am »
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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #26 on: 08 July, 2011, 08:46:12 am »
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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #27 on: 08 July, 2011, 12:43:37 pm »
I used to live near Herentals.

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #28 on: 10 July, 2011, 09:33:04 am »
A superb finish yesterday evening. Rode the last 60 km with Antonio and Bernard, finishing by riding past the cafe where all the other finishers were assembled. A quick shower then off to the BBQ behind the cafe and medal presentation, lots of Duvel. It was nice that Andre, who packed on day 2 with medical problems, turned up. 2 minute ride back to the b&b and in bed by midnight. Berne got in at about 1:15 and has just set off to ride the 436 km home in one go. Martin & tim have just set off for Calais. I think Tim enjoyed himself.

My plans have changed. Instead of touring round Germany then heading for Paris, I'll have to come home to prepare a different bike for PBP, as I've found a crack in my omega.
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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #29 on: 10 July, 2011, 09:40:46 am »

My plans have changed. Instead of touring round Germany then heading for Paris, I'll have to come home to prepare a different bike for PBP, as I've found a crack in my omega.

Firstly, well done. This sounds a superb ride from your descriptions.

Sorry to hear of your bike challenges and the changes of plans. I guess you can only take comfort that you discovered it now rather than in a few weeks time?

Hope it all holds together for the ride back.
Right! What's next?

Ooooh. That sounds like a daft idea.  I am in!

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #30 on: 11 July, 2011, 10:55:57 am »
Back home again after a marathon 700 mile drive yesterday, at least I didn't have to go to work today unlike xrtim.
Just some impressions from this brilliant ride, I'll do a full ride report later.
In no particular order:

Fantastic organisation - turning up late at night to be met by Gilbert who would patiently explain to a brain dead rider like me where to put my bike, which room I was in, how to get to it and how to get into it several times as I seemed to be incapable of retaining any information. Everything just worked :thumbsup:

Hammering through the centre of Brussels hanging on to Jan's (the organiser's) backwheel over damp cobbles, dodging tramlines, on and off cycle paths and through road works - absolutely mad. And then repeating the whole experience the next morning through the centre of Paris - Jan holding out his hand to stop the traffic as 20+ riders shot out into the traffic round the Arc d'Triomphe.

700km of 20mph headwind from Morkhoven to Cosne s/Loire and the 'Highway to Hell' that was the D97 - 50 shadeless kilometres of dead straight rolling road into said headwind with speed down to 10kph at times.

The lantern rouge autobus forming an efficient paceline for the 40km from Gien to Cosne s/Loire in the dark after consuming pasta and beer.

Picnics of pizza and cake on a day of endless sunshine, stunningly beautiful scenery and a stonking tailwind from Cosne s/Loire to Reims.

John Spooner's company and conversation over many, many miles - many thanks it made the more difficult sections much easier, even if it caused us to miss turnings and go off route several times ::-)

Being sat in the group being towed along at >35kph for over 30kms on the way out from Reims on Day 4 as the sun rose.

Finding the cycle track at my first attempt in Namur and then the fast, wind assisted ride along it to Eghezee.

The BBQ where 20 odd riders made short order of a huge amount of food in a fantastic friendly atmosphere. John Spooner after 2 glasses of Duvel (9% alcohol beer), talking even more than usual ;D

Bernd who set off from northern Germany on Sunday, rode >400 to Morkhoven arriving Monday; spent Tuesday riding about 150km to Antwerp and back; then rode the event (almost entirely in his 53 tooth chainring as far as I could tell); then set off to ride the 400 odd kms straight back home on Sunday. All without seemingly breaking sweat and all the while talking and taking photographs.

Finally, my thanks to Jan the organiser who informed us he had been hospitalised with a stroke in February but still went on to complete the organisation of this ride and to ride it himself. His humour and advice coupled with superb organisation made this a very special ride.

Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #31 on: 11 July, 2011, 11:33:05 am »
John Spooner's company and conversation over many, many miles - many thanks it made the more difficult sections much easier, even if it caused us to miss turnings and go off route several times ::-)
Oh dear.
The BBQ where 20 odd riders made short order of a huge amount of food in a fantastic friendly atmosphere. John Spooner after 2 glasses of Duvel (9% alcohol beer), talking even more than usual ;D
Oh deary dear.

Well done M.

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #32 on: 17 July, 2011, 01:02:08 pm »
A 1300 km leisurely ride to the start, including a couple of days visiting an old uni friend near Boulogne, some time near Ieper/Ypres, a lovely day visiting swarm_catcher's parents, moseying round Belgium looping south round Brussels, a nightmare crossing Charleroi by bike, and discovering this:


Nothing to give rise to any Van Broadist or MacNastyan heroics - yet. After much deliberation I decided to carry on as if I hadn't seen it. After all it had probably been like that for months if not years, and probably explained the creaking when putting pressure on the pedals which wasn't cured by changing the chainset and BB.

So on to the ride, picking up maverick and xrtim the day before the start when I found them wandering around Morkhoven looking for something to eat.

The start the next morning was at 5 am from the local gym. Time to renew some old acquintances - Jan had a bit of repeat business.


Bernd takes a photo before the start. It was all he did apart from charge around on his 53-tooth chainring. 742 of his photos of the ride can be seen here


In the first few km a couple of stops to put on/take off waterproofs

and the field was all together for a brief stop at Mechelen


then disaster - as we approached the lifting bridge at Hombeek my carefully laminated pack of routesheet cards fell from my map holder, and by the time I'd stopped, bells were ringing, lights flashing and barriers dropping in front of me. The bunch, meanwhile, sped along the opposite bank of the canal. At best I'd have to bust a gut in trying to catch them, at worst I'd have the next 320km to ride on my own, including navigating through the centre of Brussels (and according to Belgian law, as I was not part of a bunch, obliged to use cyclepaths). All I could do for the present, was to take a picture of the road as it rose up before me

and watch while a boat   v e r y  s l o w l y   made its way towards then under the bridge, and the bridge took its time lowering the road back into place. Just as I was about to push off, Guy and Daniël appeared behind me, and we sped through the streets to catch the bunch, who had noticed out absence and slowed down to allow us to regroup. But the 15-minute flat out chase (mostly on Guy's wheel) had left me knackered

Brussels, and the obligatory stop at the  Atomium

xrtim: "What does it do? What's it for?"

and on through the streets of central rush-hour Brussels


and to the control at a café at Naast. Some happy faces:


Here I sat next to Antonio, born in Spain but resident in Belgium for nearly 50 years, and said that I'd probably do the next 265 km alone, as I was being dropped on the hills, and then having to chase to catch up. He suggested we form a Francophone Lanterne Rouge group with Bernard (valkyrie will remember him from HBKH) and André who was just arriving at the control. We duly excused ourselves from Jan's group and waved them off. But when we were ready to go there was no sign of Bernard, so we set off without him.

The main group had left on the road behind the church, but André insisted on a different route. It soon became clear we were not following the official route, but one André had concocted which took us through the  village where he was born 64 years ago, past the school he went to, past the village water tower, along the cobbled roads where he had learned to ride (I still haven't learned to ride cobbles) ...

15 hours later there was still no sign of Bernard at our hotel on the outskirts of Paris after 365 km - no one had seen him since the 100 km mark. It turns out he had left with the fast group, then decided to join us and returned, expecting to bump into us on the road or at the café, but missed us as we had already left using André's route. Bernard is rather shy, hadn't done much preparation in familiarising himself with the route and speaks only French, so with a predominantly Flemish routesheet and no GPS the day was a bit of a nightmare for him. He got to the hotel at 2:30 am, ready for a 4 am alarm call.

The next day took us straight through the middle of Paris - for me one of the highlights of the ride. After getting dropped then lost the previous year (but see my sig) I made sure I stayed as close as possible to Jan's wheel at all times, even if this involved a bit of elbowing in a Kelly v  Vandeaerden style.

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Jan waits for stragglers near the Louvre. I was waiting to pounce onto his back wheel as soon as he moved.



Waiting at traffic lights on the bank of the Seine. Maverick (l) is going to get an elbow if he doesn't let me in. Antonio is fairly lightweight so shouldn't prove much of a problem. I did consider draping a towel over Jan's rackpack to discourage the germans ...


Then came the notorious D97 (see posts above) and its headwind. This is Antonio after 3 km of the D97 headwind, beneath one of the few trees on the road.


After crossing Orléans, where normal traffic rules were suspended for the afternoon (or so Antonio thought) we had a more relaxing 100km or so along the banks of the Loire to Cosne/Loire, past the chateau at Sully


and along quiet riverbank routes. Here's Antonio forging ahead:


If you see Antonio on PBP (Spanish-looking French-speaking in a randonneurs.be jersey riding a red and black Orbea) do say hello - he's a top chap.

André wasn't seen all day. I turned out he had a near miss with a car at a roundabout, which sent his blood pressure up and triggered a nosebleed which wouldn't stop for at least 3 hours despite the help of a pharmacist, so he called it a day.

Cosne was over half-way, and accommodation was in the charmingly typical example of french provincial Hotelerie, the Hotel du Point du Jour. Décor from the 1920s, plumbing from the 1820s. Infinitely preferable to the F1s and Balladins.


GPS adjustments before the start of day 3, setting the 'Stonking Tailwind' setting to ON.


DIY breakfast in the supermarket carpark across the road


The 3rd day has the best scenery






The Yonne from the climb after Joigny


The scenery at the LIDL at Romilly sur Seine was a bit of a let-down


but the picnic of pizza ...


 ... and tartelette

was what it's all about.

Getting caught at a level crossing usually costs no more than a couple of minutes, but when the train isn't moving, take a picture of it and wait. And wait.


but eventually we were on our way through the Champagne vineyards south of Epernay


to the evening meal at McDo's in Reims


I rode large chunks of the last day with Antonio and Bernard, and timed my arrival at the Café des Sports in Eghezée to coincide with the last five minutes of the TdF. Walloon Philippe Gilbert's final kilometre surge in the Belgian champion's jersey to take second on the stage and the green jersey went down a storm with the locals.

No ride in Belgium would be complete without a cobbled climb, and our came 17 km form the end, the Eikelberg

Not the worst cobbles encountered (those IMO were on a fast descent in the dark a few 10s of km short of the Paris control).

I finished with Antonio and Bernard, and Jan and Stan caught us just as we were finishing.

One feature of this ride is the (all-you-an-eat) BBQ and prize presentation - all riders are present (even André who had packed on day 2 turned up to tell of his misadventures), so there's no anti-climax as there sometimes can be at the end of long rides.






Bernd (D), xrtim and Henry (NL) discussing my bottom bracket, probably. Baseball caps and medals presented by Herentals Tourist Office.


Many long rides depend on an army of volunteers for their smooth running. This one has Gilbert Maes, who drove the baggage car, bought the food for breakfast and packed lunch, was in charge of room allocations and key codes, was waiting outside the hotel to greet the last rider to arrive and up again at 4 am to get the bikes out and answer any questions in French, Flemish, German, English or (usually) a mixture of all 4. When he went up to get his medal he got the longest and loudest cheer of the night. No wonder he looks tired.


Breakfast the next morning


Quick quiz question for those who have go this far:

Which is the odd one out:
A. Radomír Šimůnek, Czech cyclo-cross star
B. Hanka Kupfernagel, 3-time world champion cyclo-crosser, and 2007 world TT champion
C. xrtim
D. Jurgen Van Den Broeck, top Belgian stage racer and TT specialist, 5th overall in the 2010 TdF.

Answer:
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My frame held up over all the cobbles, and got me home again, but I didn't fancy the chances of it surviving another few thousand km with camping gear before PBP, so I've come home to sort something else out for PBP.

If this ride is on again next year, I may very well try to make it a hat trick. A super ride with a unique
atmosphere. Were having a reunion ride in France in August (but there may be a few thousand gatecrashers).


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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #33 on: 17 July, 2011, 01:53:22 pm »
Fantastic ride report Salvatore - you've made me think that I've chosen the wrong French 1200 to ride this year! If it's on next year I could well be up for it.
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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #34 on: 17 July, 2011, 02:22:15 pm »
If it's on next year I could well be up for it.

Do I detect another Audax Ecosse road trip in the making? One can only speculate on the state McNasty's bike will be in after a few stretches of cobbles.
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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #35 on: 17 July, 2011, 09:24:04 pm »
Yes fantastic ride and report from Salvatore and Maverick.My thanks to Jan the organiser and everybody on the ride who had to put up with my usual antics.
Strangley no mention of sleeping arangements or late arrivals into the room on the reports.
I must say I did love the cycle and scenery and no headwind will ever be as hard again as 20MPH for 700k.
The Belgium Team and the Germans got streached out as I went for it on the third day with big down hills, I just had washing to do and didn,t want to be too late?
That Audax Ecosse photo must make the cover of that Quarterly mag in a PBP year ?
Salvatore recons I will be hooked on long runs now----we,ll see???

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #36 on: 17 July, 2011, 09:31:55 pm »
Strangley no mention of sleeping arangements or late arrivals into the room on the reports.

What happened in the F1 stays in the F1.
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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #37 on: 17 July, 2011, 09:48:39 pm »
Strangley no mention of sleeping arangements or late arrivals into the room on the reports.

What happened in the F1 stays in the F1.

Maybe ;)

Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #38 on: 08 August, 2011, 04:59:41 pm »
Is there someone who could supply me with a tracklog of this event? (I e-mailed the organizer, but no response yet)
I apparently finished my BSc which means I have time to ride the french ride and from Herentals to Paris I'd like to follow the route of this brevet.
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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #39 on: 08 August, 2011, 05:07:09 pm »
Parts of the route you need I have in my collection of GPS tracks, including a nearly full set of GPS tracks of Ravels.

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #40 on: 16 October, 2011, 07:10:58 pm »

If this ride is on again next year, I may very well try to make it a hat trick. A super ride with a unique
atmosphere.

It's on the randonneurs.be website - 4th July 2012 - SWMBO has been informed and xrtim is up for a return to this. Thinking of cycling to the event this year via Newcastle ferry.

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #41 on: 17 October, 2011, 01:32:03 pm »
I am definatly up for this one. Trying to put Maverick off the cycling to event idea for the comfort of that big Merc thing but we will see. Hope we get paired up with somebody who gets in before 2am this time?

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #42 on: 17 October, 2011, 02:00:22 pm »
I've just put it in my diary. The plan is to ride there, ride it, then ride to the start of the 1200 du massif central, ride that, then ride home (possibly via an indirect route).

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #43 on: 17 October, 2011, 03:48:22 pm »
The Douze Cents ride is also in my diary :thumbsup:  Hopefully combined with some touring around the Loire with Ms Maverick. If I can fit it in, my season finisher will be the Grosse Bayern Rundfarhte 1200 but I'll wait and see how things go. I'm still not back on the bike for any distance after being knocked off at the begining of September >:(

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #44 on: 26 April, 2012, 11:52:00 pm »
Entry and payment off today  - xrtim and I are definitely doing this. :thumbsup:

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #45 on: 30 June, 2012, 07:01:14 pm »
Maverick and I are getting stuff ready for this wee run and are heading south on Monday.
Trying to prepare myself mentally for the 700k head wind forecast and 24 degrees , woe is me.
And our sleeping partner " Where for art thou Salvatore " ?   Will it be a chance meeting under the balcony of the B and B ???

Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #46 on: 30 June, 2012, 08:39:41 pm »
And our sleeping partner " Where for art thou Salvatore " ?   

Well. not sure about 'wherefore', but if the question were 'Where?' an hour ago the answer would have been

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #47 on: 30 June, 2012, 08:58:36 pm »
[Pedant] I thought he was Salvatore because another randonneur termed him as such.  ;) ;D

(As I understand it, "Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?" means "Romeo, why are you a Montagu?")

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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #48 on: 01 July, 2012, 05:57:23 pm »
Latest: Just arrived at Morkhoven after 571 km tailwind. I wonder if Bernd is riding to the start . That'll be 400 km headwind  for him.i
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Re: Herentals-Cosne/Loire-Herentals 1200
« Reply #49 on: 03 July, 2012, 10:14:11 am »
looking at the weather forecast for France I was wondering what the difference from cycling in the rain in Scotland would be. Then it came to me / about 15 degrees I hope