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mattc

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #25 on: 17 September, 2014, 08:03:59 pm »
Although I'm nowhere near Lars' speed, a 500 is a very civilised distance.

Like a 6, you can really "go somewhere" ( TM LWAB), but can be done in a weekend without crazy early starts or late finish. And easier :-P
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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #26 on: 17 September, 2014, 08:49:07 pm »
Although I'm nowhere near Lars' speed, a 500 is a very civilised distance.

Like a 6, you can really "go somewhere" ( TM LWAB), but can be done in a weekend without crazy early starts or late finish. And easier :-P

Exactly. And it enables you to enjoy good long rides on both days. A sleep break after 300 of a 400 is less rewarding. Did that on Asparagus and Strawberries 400 last year. Diversion home to sleep. Getting up and doing the final 100 felt very different than the 500. More like a nuisance just finishing it off and then go home again. But guess could have ECEd it to 500 and ridden home rather than taking the train. But that didn't seem appealing or even something to consider at the time for some reason.

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #27 on: 17 September, 2014, 11:06:01 pm »
Anyone possess a copy of the 1999 or 2000 handbook that mentions the SR2000 ?

Gotta keep it pure, what what !!

Handbook 2000:
Front Cover includes picture of Badge.
Inside FC: SR series with a difference- as well as the usual 200, 300, 400, and 600km rides, you can undertake the series with an additional 500km to gain an SR2000. This is the brainchild of organiser Graham Mills.
P38: Whilst for the Millennium, an SR2000, which includes a new standard distance of 500km, has been instituted.

Handbook 2001:
P43:List of 254 SRs and 193 SR2000 awards listed

Later H/Bs: No specific mention of SR2000

No mention (cannot find in H/B) re-substitution of rides but ‘inference’ would be to ride a 500km? Agree IanH comment about ‘exact’ distance.
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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #28 on: 17 September, 2014, 11:14:09 pm »
// prepares nit-pickery hat//
and stands ready to carefully scrutinise flood of SR2000 claims.

you got me bang to rights Gov;

if they should run out I'll surrender mine

it's very kwl tho'  8)

Bugloss

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #29 on: 18 September, 2014, 07:27:45 am »
Well this is all very splendid and I've now plotted a pleasant trip to both coasts with a ferry ride on each day and an overnight in my own bed.
All I need is sun and some cucumber sandwiches and it'll start to feel like a holiday aboard Lucky Eddy.

I read somewhere that the DIY by GPS had the same minimum speed as a BP. I think it was LWaB that posted that.

Have I got that correct?

Note: RP has added a nice historical to the post in "the other place", if you're interested.

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #30 on: 18 September, 2014, 07:40:28 am »
Not I. DIY by GPS for 200km or further is a BR with the minimum speed requirement of any other BR.
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Bugloss

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #31 on: 18 September, 2014, 09:18:48 am »
Thanks LWaB, I'll just have to pedal a bit faster and hope the West wind stays away.

The proposed route : http://goo.gl/maps/gc2w5

FYI; Thyborøn on the west coast is the place to go hurricane watching and Limfjord should be full of migratory birds at the moment, so I'm really looking forward to going that way.

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #32 on: 19 September, 2014, 12:22:43 am »
Not I. DIY by GPS for 200km or further is a BR with the minimum speed requirement of any other BR.

But can be 14.3km/h rather than the 15km/h common on calendar events.

(And of course you could submit your DIY as a BP - but wouldn't get points for it ...)



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Martin

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #33 on: 19 September, 2014, 12:50:44 am »
any DIY up to 199km is minimum 10kph
any DIY 200-699km is minimum 14.3kph
it goes down a bit above that

(I used to organise them and it hasn't changed since)

Bugloss

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #34 on: 19 September, 2014, 05:10:57 am »
Thanks, I must have misread that which isn't uncommon. ::-)

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #35 on: 19 September, 2014, 10:38:09 am »
Although I'm nowhere near Lars' speed, a 500 is a very civilised distance.

Like a 6, you can really "go somewhere" ( TM LWAB), but can be done in a weekend without crazy early starts or late finish. And easier :-P

Exactly. And it enables you to enjoy good long rides on both days. A sleep break after 300 of a 400 is less rewarding. Did that on Asparagus and Strawberries 400 last year. Diversion home to sleep. Getting up and doing the final 100 felt very different than the 500. More like a nuisance just finishing it off and then go home again. But guess could have ECEd it to 500 and ridden home rather than taking the train. But that didn't seem appealing or even something to consider at the time for some reason.

For most riders, a 400km event is essentially a non-stop 24hr event, because unless you are riding with a 'maximum value' mindset the ride simply is not long enough to build up enough time for more than a catnap. Thats why mostmany consider 400km as the toughest distance. Much the same applies to a 500km. To my mind what Lars is describing isn't so much a 500km but a 300km followed by a 200km, which is fine but it's not a single integrated event.

Almost by definition, anything that can be described as 'civilised' isn't audacious!

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #36 on: 19 September, 2014, 11:58:36 am »
Hmm, London - Portsmouth - Bristol is around 250km, maybe we can progress onto a 500km ACH/ACP/ACB rumble next year.
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Bugloss

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #37 on: 19 September, 2014, 12:05:22 pm »
Hmm, London - Portsmouth - Bristol is around 250km, maybe we can progress onto a 500km ACH/ACP/ACB rumble next year.

As long as you do it in an audacious manner by riding shopping trollies.

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #38 on: 19 September, 2014, 12:54:10 pm »

For most riders, a 400km event is essentially a non-stop 24hr event, because unless you are riding with a 'maximum value' mindset the ride simply is not long enough to build up enough time for more than a catnap. Thats why most consider 400km as the toughest distance. Much the same applies to a 500km. To my mind what Lars is describing isn't so much a 500km but a 300km followed by a 200km, which is fine but it's not a single integrated event.

Almost by definition, anything that can be described as 'civilised' isn't audacious!

A few nitpicks
- Some or many may think that a 400 is harder than a 600 but I don't think it is most. I find a 600 slightly harder than a 400.
- I sleep during most multiday brevets and really enjoyed a couple of hours asleep during the recent National 400. More often than not, I'm in the back half of the field.
- Few ride PBP or LEL without sleep. I think of those as 1200km or 1400km events, not as a series of 350km or 300km rides. If all controls are within the time limits, how is that not a single event?
- We are talking about riding 500km in a weekend and aiming to enjoy it. That counts as pretty bold, regardless of hairsplitting whether the rider could be even bolder.
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Lars

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #39 on: 19 September, 2014, 12:59:05 pm »
Although I'm nowhere near Lars' speed, a 500 is a very civilised distance.

Like a 6, you can really "go somewhere" ( TM LWAB), but can be done in a weekend without crazy early starts or late finish. And easier :-P

Exactly. And it enables you to enjoy good long rides on both days. A sleep break after 300 of a 400 is less rewarding. Did that on Asparagus and Strawberries 400 last year. Diversion home to sleep. Getting up and doing the final 100 felt very different than the 500. More like a nuisance just finishing it off and then go home again. But guess could have ECEd it to 500 and ridden home rather than taking the train. But that didn't seem appealing or even something to consider at the time for some reason.

For most riders, a 400km event is essentially a non-stop 24hr event, because unless you are riding with a 'maximum value' mindset the ride simply is not long enough to build up enough time for more than a catnap. Thats why most consider 400km as the toughest distance. Much the same applies to a 500km. To my mind what Lars is describing isn't so much a 500km but a 300km followed by a 200km, which is fine but it's not a single integrated event.

Almost by definition, anything that can be described as 'civilised' isn't audacious!

Doesn't break any rules. Plus nice to do be able to do those types of rides late in the season when finally in decent
shape after biking through spring and summer. Good counterweight to struggling through hilly grimpy May 400s and
600s when not yet in shape. Can't see why each and every long ride must be "audacious". Supposed to be doing this
for fun after all.  ;)

Bugloss

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #40 on: 19 September, 2014, 03:49:50 pm »
Hmmm.... fun. I think we loose track of that aspect of it a lot of the time.

I think it's bloody audacious of you Lars to go to bed half way through a 500 and I like your style.

You'll be telling us next that you put your feet up, had a Banana Daiquiri and watched two episodes of Strictly Come Dancing, at half way too.

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #41 on: 19 September, 2014, 09:06:41 pm »
I once did a 400, after 300km of which I got home, had a shower, changed into civvies and went and watched younger guy play tennis.  Then I hopped back on the bike for the remaining 100km after which I had a nice river cruise (OK, it was the Tilbury-Gravesend ferry).
I rather enjoyed the last 100km, though the first 300, overnight was, well, an overnight 300.

I got my SR 2000 in 2008, I think.  The 500 was a DIY 200 followed by a calendar 300 (before we had ECEs).  I had all of 20 mins between the 2 and so was the back marker for most of the 300.  I di get the shny badge, my favourite.  (Actually after last year's 24 I could get another but not bothered).
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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #42 on: 22 September, 2014, 03:36:15 pm »
Bugloss. There is always the possibility of the Bog Standard group DIY running again if there is enough interest. Includes a really nice sleep stop with the option to book your own room. My tormentor, Rocco always beloved in sleep on long rides. Despite suggestions otherwise here, sleep can be taken, often with the comfort of a bed on 400s

For the records, I've got three of these silly things. HK

Lars

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #43 on: 22 September, 2014, 04:27:19 pm »
Got the medal today. A very nice and sharp-looking one it is. Plus it was delivered in a neat little
box even! Well worth the effort to top-up a SR with a 500!  :thumbsup:

Rather nice package of Audax stuff received - the SR 2000 medal, R10,000 badge and B5,000 medal.
Nice additions to the collection!  :D

Aunt Maud

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #44 on: 23 September, 2014, 02:11:32 pm »
Bugloss. There is always the possibility of the Bog Standard group DIY running again if there is enough interest. Includes a really nice sleep stop with the option to book your own room. My tormentor, Rocco always beloved in sleep on long rides. Despite suggestions otherwise here, sleep can be taken, often with the comfort of a bed on 400s

For the records, I've got three of these silly things. HK

That sounds like a splendid idea HK.

500Km DIY by GPS in the bag.

Two coasts, two punctures, two baked potatoes and too much rain, but 8hrs in bed and a slap up breakfast with a bucket of coffee either side.

Chuffed.:smug:

Now in planning:  A 1300km GPS jaunt around the coast of Jutland. ;D

Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #45 on: 23 June, 2015, 04:02:52 pm »
// prepares nit-pickery hat//
and stands ready to carefully scrutinise flood of SR2000 claims.
 ;D ;D

P.S.    Appreciate if you could use the http://www.aukweb.net/contactus/ page rather than by PM

So does this mean I need to claim my SR2000 first (via the address on aukweb), before I can purchase a shiny medal and/or badge??

Got my 500km DIY by GPS in at the weekend, first time of using my bivi bag too :-)

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #46 on: 23 June, 2015, 06:12:33 pm »
// prepares nit-pickery hat//
and stands ready to carefully scrutinise flood of SR2000 claims.
 ;D ;D

P.S.    Appreciate if you could use the http://www.aukweb.net/contactus/ page rather than by PM

So does this mean I need to claim my SR2000 first (via the address on aukweb), before I can purchase a shiny medal and/or badge??

Got my 500km DIY by GPS in at the weekend, first time of using my bivi bag too :-)

Speak to M. Le Recorder, he'll sort it.  I think I may have done another for this year with a 300BRM+200ECE on 1st. May, that makes a 500 non?

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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #47 on: 24 June, 2015, 12:17:47 pm »
Blimey!  I better get mine in quick before the shiny medals run out  :o

My route:
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7644769
SR 2010/11/12/13/14/15
RRTY. PBP. LeJoG 1400. LEL.




Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #48 on: 27 June, 2015, 04:21:01 pm »
Blimey!  I better get mine in quick before the shiny medals run out  :o

My route:
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7644769

route comes up as PRIVATE.....
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Re: What's a Super Randonneur 2000
« Reply #49 on: 29 June, 2015, 03:45:00 pm »
Blimey!  I better get mine in quick before the shiny medals run out  :o

My route:
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7644769

route comes up as PRIVATE.....

Try it now  :thumbsup:
SR 2010/11/12/13/14/15
RRTY. PBP. LeJoG 1400. LEL.