Capt Tom RIP

[Hot Flatus]

Again, I think you are misrepresenting the clergyman. You are assuming that he includes all of the clappers as cult members. 

I'm citing Littlejohn's article as evidence that Littlejohn thinks a white British nationalist cult centred on Capt Tom exists.

After all, Littlejohn only writes articles for which he believes there is an audience.

[ian]

Come on chaps, everything done by white people is racist.

[Hot Flatus]

Pipe down, Laurence.

[Davef]

This "Captain Tom" is a creation by the right wing media, he wasn't "hijacked" by Boris Johnson.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/captain-tom-moore-keep-walking-raise-money-nhs

You don’t get much more right wing than that.

[ian]

Pipe down, Laurence.

Come to think of it, I did mistake the sound of the 6 pm cheer for foxes fucking. Maybe, just maybe, that was Lozzer putting one in the back of the net.

[Hot Flatus]

Let's just remind ourselves...

who recommended Capt Tom for a knighthood?
who ordered flags at No10 to be lowered on his death?
who suggested a national clap for Capt Tom?
who described Capt Tom as a 'Point of Light' on his 100th birthday?
Who is backing a Daily Mail campaign to erect a Tom statue?

Why is Boris Johnson doing all these things when he hasn't done a single thing to honour the many medical staff (disproportionately BAME) who have lost their lives to Covid?  No statues, no lowered flags, no knighthoods.

What is it about Sir Captain Tom that Johnson feels is particularly useful to him politically?  Could it be that he feels it burnishes his self-appointed image as the Winston Churchill de nos jours?

[T42]

Poor old bugger, if only he'd known the squabbling he'd inspire he'd have stayed in his recliner chair. Having helped MrsT's dad to hospital appointments etc when he was in his 90s I can appreciate the kind of effort he made and the pain he probably felt from arthritis. I wouldn't begrudge him anything he received.

[Hot Flatus]

I'm not begrudging him anything.

[T42]

Ah.

[Hot Flatus]

His corpse has been co-opted into the right-wing culture war (see post about Daily Mail accusing black people of triyng to topple a statue that doesn't even exist) 

The culture war exists to make people outraged and crystallise support and to make people outraged at non-existent things to distract them from being outraged by reality.

That is what pisses me off.  If you think I'm angry about a 100year old man, himself, you have been suckered by the culture war and may I interest you in some cast iron investments that will see a 500% return, tax free.

[ian]

Honestly, I hope he had a fucking awesome final year (a year that for most of us has been shit) and that's enough. Shame he didn't get to end on the high notes of viagra and nubile twins, of course, because that's how I'd like to go if I hit 100.

[Hot Flatus]

I doubt it.

You'll probably be more interested in biscuits

[ian]

Probably, but you need a stretch goal.

[Hot Flatus]

Well, if you pull it off, and you get to the end of the event, don't be disappointed if just a bit of dust comes out

[Giraffe]

Cue 'Eskimo Nell', first verse(?).

[T42]

His corpse has been co-opted into the right-wing culture war (see post about Daily Mail accusing black people of triyng to topple a statue that doesn't even exist) 

The culture war exists to make people outraged and crystallise support and to make people outraged at non-existent things to distract them from being outraged by reality.

That is what pisses me off.  If you think I'm angry about a 100year old man, himself, you have been suckered by the culture war and may I interest you in some cast iron investments that will see a 500% return, tax free.

All I've seen about him has been the initial news, the bit about the public recognition and then this thread, which I haven't read much of because of the bluster.  I certainly recall comments along the lines of "he walked round his garden, so what? Volunteers of 30 years standing get nothing" or some such. If that's not begrudging it certainly gives a bloody good impression. Anyway, that was on the first page. It's now up to 3 pages and I'm just somewhat surprised that the vapouring is still going on.  That's all.

[Regulator]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtegJ5PWQAI7fnU?format=jpg&name=small

And here we go.  Right-wing piece-of-shite-on-the-anus-of-humanity Richard Littlejohn attacking black people who don't exist for planning to pull down a statue that doesn't exist either.


So davej, what was it you were saying?

I was saying that Rev robinson-brown should not be saying that anyone who clapped for capt tom is a white British nationalist. I did not read your Richard littlejohn link as it is clearly written by a loon.  Are you saying the revs tweet was ok because you have found something worse?

But he didn’t say that, did he?

[Davef]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtegJ5PWQAI7fnU?format=jpg&name=small

And here we go.  Right-wing piece-of-shite-on-the-anus-of-humanity Richard Littlejohn attacking black people who don't exist for planning to pull down a statue that doesn't exist either.


So davej, what was it you were saying?

I was saying that Rev robinson-brown should not be saying that anyone who clapped for capt tom is a white British nationalist. I did not read your Richard littlejohn link as it is clearly written by a loon.  Are you saying the revs tweet was ok because you have found something worse?

But he didn’t say that, did he?

His exact words were “The cult of Captain Tom is a cult of White British Nationalism. I will offer prayers for the repose of his kind and generous soul, but I will not be joining the 'National Clap'."

[Hot Flatus]

Are those exact words the same as these exact words?

anyone who clapped for capt tom is a white British nationalist.

[Hot Flatus]

His corpse has been co-opted into the right-wing culture war (see post about Daily Mail accusing black people of triyng to topple a statue that doesn't even exist) 

The culture war exists to make people outraged and crystallise support and to make people outraged at non-existent things to distract them from being outraged by reality.

That is what pisses me off.  If you think I'm angry about a 100year old man, himself, you have been suckered by the culture war and may I interest you in some cast iron investments that will see a 500% return, tax free.

All I've seen about him has been the initial news, the bit about the public recognition and then this thread, which I haven't read much of because of the bluster.  I certainly recall comments along the lines of "he walked round his garden, so what? Volunteers of 30 years standing get nothing" or some such. If that's not begrudging it certainly gives a bloody good impression. Anyway, that was on the first page. It's now up to 3 pages and I'm just somewhat surprised that the vapouring is still going on.  That's all.

Is thinking that other people's efforts and sacrifices (in some cases, their lives) should be recognised the same as saying that Capt Tom's efforts should not?

[Jurek]

Am I alone in thinking that this is nuts?
https://www.real-fix.com/videos/watch-this-woman-completely-transform-herself-into-100-year-old-captain-tom-moore-using-only-makeup-and-body-paint/

[Regulator]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtegJ5PWQAI7fnU?format=jpg&name=small

And here we go.  Right-wing piece-of-shite-on-the-anus-of-humanity Richard Littlejohn attacking black people who don't exist for planning to pull down a statue that doesn't exist either.


So davej, what was it you were saying?

I was saying that Rev robinson-brown should not be saying that anyone who clapped for capt tom is a white British nationalist. I did not read your Richard littlejohn link as it is clearly written by a loon.  Are you saying the revs tweet was ok because you have found something worse?

But he didn’t say that, did he?

His exact words were “The cult of Captain Tom is a cult of White British Nationalism. I will offer prayers for the repose of his kind and generous soul, but I will not be joining the 'National Clap'."

So he didn’t say “... anyone who clapped for capt tom is a white British nationalist” did he?   

[Davef]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtegJ5PWQAI7fnU?format=jpg&name=small

And here we go.  Right-wing piece-of-shite-on-the-anus-of-humanity Richard Littlejohn attacking black people who don't exist for planning to pull down a statue that doesn't exist either.


So davej, what was it you were saying?

I was saying that Rev robinson-brown should not be saying that anyone who clapped for capt tom is a white British nationalist. I did not read your Richard littlejohn link as it is clearly written by a loon.  Are you saying the revs tweet was ok because you have found something worse?

But he didn’t say that, did he?

His exact words were “The cult of Captain Tom is a cult of White British Nationalism. I will offer prayers for the repose of his kind and generous soul, but I will not be joining the 'National Clap'."

So he didn’t say “... anyone who clapped for capt tom is a white British nationalist” did he?

You are correct I did not have the exact words. Perhaps he was saying something other than that the ‘national clap’ was part of the cult of Capt Tom and therefore he was not participating, but if so I don’t know what. If I was quoting him exactly I would have used quotation marks.

[sg37409]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-55986646

“ A Police Scotland spokeswoman said: "On Friday 5 February 2021, we received a report of an offensive tweet about Sir Captain Tom Moore who died on Tuesday 2 February.”

Too bad we can’t get then looking at every woman MPs Twitter feed

[sg37409]

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