Author Topic: Dealing with lumberjack visits  (Read 13080 times)

Beardy

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Dealing with lumberjack visits
« on: 30 December, 2017, 08:26:39 pm »
Modern water saving flush toilets. They just don’t deliver enough water with sufficient force to complete the required task and therefore require manual intervention if I’m going to leave the facility in a sufficiently hygienic state that meets Dr Beardy’s (Mrs) exacting standards. 🤬
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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #1 on: 30 December, 2017, 08:48:35 pm »
Modern water saving flush toilets. They just don’t deliver enough water with sufficient force to complete the required task and therefore require manual intervention if I’m going to leave the facility in a sufficiently hygienic state that meets Dr Beardy’s (Mrs) exacting standards. 🤬
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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #2 on: 30 December, 2017, 09:16:51 pm »
Yay for old plumbing.  You could drop a bag of coal down ours and it would happily deal with it.
Costs me a fortune on the water meter, mind.
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hellymedic

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #3 on: 30 December, 2017, 09:17:17 pm »
Nothing works as well as 2 gallons from a height of 6 feet. Stupid low flush pussy-foot loos need multiple flushes plus assistance from a toilet brush.

Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #4 on: 30 December, 2017, 10:18:43 pm »
Agreed.
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Jaded

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #5 on: 31 December, 2017, 12:01:29 am »
Flush early and flush often. That’s my motto.
It is simpler than it looks.

Beardy

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #6 on: 31 December, 2017, 12:10:00 am »
But... Splashback, euwww.
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hellymedic

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #7 on: 31 December, 2017, 12:29:20 am »
Flush early and flush often. That’s my motto.

This will not work on some occasions.

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ian

Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #8 on: 31 December, 2017, 04:32:09 pm »
Persistence and bleach is my motto.

hellymedic

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #9 on: 31 December, 2017, 09:05:01 pm »
Flush early and flush often. That’s my motto.

What is the point of a 'water-saving' [sic] WC?

Beardy

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #10 on: 31 December, 2017, 09:49:27 pm »
Persistence and bleach is my motto.
Tread softly and carry a big stick.
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fuzzy

Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #11 on: 01 January, 2018, 12:29:43 am »
Rubber gloves and a strong stomach.

Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #12 on: 01 January, 2018, 12:39:21 am »
Rubber gloves and a strong stomach.

Wot no NBC kit?
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Jaded

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #13 on: 01 January, 2018, 01:30:01 am »
Don’t put paper down following a log-tastic experience.

Flush. Flush. Flush.

If there is a particularly recalcitrant turd in your bathroom use time and water to soften it up. Then flush again.

It is simpler than it looks.

T42

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #14 on: 01 January, 2018, 08:31:50 am »
The chalice in our palace is right by the bath, so I unscrew the shower head and cut Moby Turds into handy bite-sized chunks with the resulting jet. You need to keep your mouth shut, though, and wear glasses.
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TheLurker

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #15 on: 01 January, 2018, 10:53:23 am »
One wonders whether the simplest thing to do would be to just tip some drain unblocker into the pan and let it get to work for half an hour or so before flushing, yet, again?  An experiment for the curious minded amongst us perhaps?
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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #16 on: 01 January, 2018, 04:12:52 pm »
Detergent works.
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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #17 on: 02 January, 2018, 09:15:12 am »
I have long been an advocate of old fashioned cisterns, with the efficiency only a large measure of kinetic energy can deliver.  But they do use a lot of water.  And can't really be used with pans designed for lower drops.  It's surely not beyond the wit of man to design a highly efficient lavatory - both in terms of flush effectiveness and low water usage - utilising the benefits of cistern height and design of pan.

I thoroughly failed the Fluid Mechanics part of my 1st yr BEng course, fwiw
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Beardy

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #18 on: 02 January, 2018, 10:14:49 am »
I have long been an advocate of old fashioned cisterns, with the efficiency only a large measure of kinetic energy can deliver.  But they do use a lot of water.  And can't really be used with pans designed for lower drops.  It's surely not beyond the wit of man to design a highly efficient lavatory - both in terms of flush effectiveness and low water usage - utilising the benefits of cistern height and design of pan.

I thoroughly failed the Fluid Mechanics part of my 1st yr BEng course, fwiw
There was a programme on the TV a number of years ago where a design team went to various industry sectors and did design consultancy with the management of various companies. The one that sticks in my mind is when a leading design duo went to Armitage Shank, of the bog manufacturing persuasion. As you might expect, they did lost of aesthetic changes to a 'close coupled' throne, most of which had to me modified due to manufacturing constraints, but one suggestion that was rejected out of hand sticks in my mind. The designers suggested a Teflon coated interior to the business end, which seems eminently sensible with low volume water saving cisterns, but no, rejected on the grounds that no one would want that. 
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clarion

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #19 on: 02 January, 2018, 10:18:01 am »
*insert facepalm
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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #20 on: 02 January, 2018, 10:26:31 am »
It's an awful lot to do with good design ime.  The new thrones installed in the Bear-o-drome in the past eighteen months do not suffer from floaters or other flushing issues yet they are both close coupled.  Admittedly they were relatively expensive but in my book you have to pay somewhere in the mid range these days to get something that works and doesn't just resemble a PSO*. 

I dislike using the PSO at one of my sister's houses.  They are 'pretty' but not poop friendly and really do have flushing issues.

How do the Germans cope with their shelved pans?

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Mrs Pingu

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #21 on: 02 January, 2018, 11:44:17 am »
Question then (being as I am still in the market for a new bathroom) - how on earth does one decide what constitutes a good toilet? It's not like you can try before you buy,  and I'm not aware of any bog review sites....,
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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #22 on: 02 January, 2018, 11:56:29 am »
We replaced one that didn't flush properly; carefully picked one that didn't have anything that looked like it could be a 'shelf' and that had and even distribution of flush water holes all round the rim. It works really well
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ian

Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #23 on: 02 January, 2018, 11:59:23 am »
It's hit and miss (hopefully not literally). Especially when you have an evil spouse who doesn't let you spend £5k on a Japanese robo-toilet.

Our toilet does the number 1/number 2 mode with a longer flush if you keep the button pressed. It mostly works, occasionally takes a couple of flushes and a glug of bleach if the lumberjack has visited. My wife claims it's just mine, but she's a girl and hence a big liar about such matters.

citoyen

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Re: Dealing with lumberjack visits
« Reply #24 on: 02 January, 2018, 12:24:56 pm »
There was a programme on the TV a number of years ago where a design team went to various industry sectors and did design consultancy with the management of various companies. The one that sticks in my mind is when a leading design duo went to Armitage Shank, of the bog manufacturing persuasion.

I remember that series. It was excellent. Can't remember what it was called though. I vaguely recall the Armitage Shanks episode but not the Teflon coating. The two episodes that stick in my mind are the one where they redesigned passenger seats on planes, and the one where they redesigned front door locks. For the plane one, they made the seats not only a lot more comfortable, but also considerably lighter and less bulky - something you'd imagine would be of great appeal to plane operators. The company rejected them because they felt passengers would feel less safe on a less substantial looking seat, even though they demonstrated that the new design met safety standards.

The locks one was interesting because they introduced the concept of remote control clickers as used in cars - an idea that again was rejected by the company at the time but now appears to be widely available. Clearly they were somewhat ahead of their time. So maybe we'll get Teflon toilets by 2030?

ETA - found it: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/better-by-design - I forgot they'd also reinvented the bra.
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