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General Category => Audax => PBP => Topic started by: Wycombewheeler on 19 July, 2019, 03:15:58 pm

Title: Bike lock
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 19 July, 2019, 03:15:58 pm
What are people using to secure their bikes at the controls a) for a quick stop.  B) for a sleep stop.  I dont want to carry several kilos of sold secure gold lock, just enough to be sure it will still be there. Is a cafe lock enough or do I need something a little more robust?
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Zed43 on 19 July, 2019, 03:26:00 pm
Abus Combiflex 2503 has doen the job so far (famous last words) less than 100g, 120cm cable and 4 digits
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Phil W on 19 July, 2019, 03:32:33 pm
Really depends on your paranoia and level of trust. I took a cafe lock last time but don't recall using it on the event but dud use a couple of times outside of the ride.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: bairn again on 19 July, 2019, 03:37:58 pm
I think I will take a lightweight one just in case.

I lost my bike at Dreux in 2007 and was convinced after a while that somebody had taken it.  It took half an hour to find it (user error as ever....) 
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Wobbly on 19 July, 2019, 04:01:25 pm
Abus Combiflex 2503 has doen the job so far (famous last words) less than 100g, 120cm cable and 4 digits

I used to carry one of those and probably used it on to to three times. But then the digits suddenly refused to turn. Luckily this was when I was about the lock the bike and not when I was trying to unlock it!

I now carry a much better quality combination lock. Not much heavier than the Abus Combiflex but much more secure and reliable. I've been using it for quite a few years now.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Kim on 19 July, 2019, 04:01:53 pm
From what I've read, the major purpose of locking your bike at controls on PBP is so that it doesn't get moved when you're not looking, so you don't waste time trying to find it.  Pretty much anything should work for that.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: vorsprung on 19 July, 2019, 04:46:55 pm
There are 5000 bikes so you will hear stories about thefts

The only time I felt a bit dubious about my crap, tiny micro lock was when shopping in Paris before the event.  I think we took it in turns to sit with the bikes outside the shop

During the event they are fairly good on security at controls and if you stop in a tiny village somewhere then the risk is pretty low
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 19 July, 2019, 05:20:43 pm
Abus frame lock (aka "nurse lock" )
I've got one on each of my bikes except the Hetchins

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Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: T42 on 19 July, 2019, 05:27:54 pm
Didn't use anything at controls in 2007 or 2015, not even when sleeping at Loudeac.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: wilkyboy on 19 July, 2019, 08:20:06 pm
I didn't use anything last time.  But a thief would've been hard-pressed to not be noticed, given the bike I was riding  :P

I usually take a caravan brake-release cable with a padlock — it's a little tougher than the Abus 4-digit, and in red, but doesn't weigh much more because of that.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: veloboy on 19 July, 2019, 10:49:45 pm
5x ridden PBP, and never used (or brought) a lock of any sorts. Of corse the thought was always in my head that it *might* get nicked... But never has happened. Seems to be an unspoken respect on PBP in particular. For my 6th PBP, I am most certainly not carrying a lock with me.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: grams on 19 July, 2019, 11:06:13 pm
I'm planning to carry a small lock. I'm not terribly concerned about at controls, but it seems sensible for supermarkets etc.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Greenbank on 19 July, 2019, 11:46:02 pm
Used an Abus 1150 for PBP/LEL in the past. More for when stopping away from controls.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Wobbly on 20 July, 2019, 12:55:20 am
Sometimes the weight of the lock (arrowed) doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things...

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Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: jsabine on 20 July, 2019, 02:20:31 am
Well, certainly not compared to the weight of the lump hammer required for percussive maintenance of the gentleman's conveyance ...
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Wobbly on 20 July, 2019, 07:23:56 am
Pah! Fake news if ever I heard it.

The lump hammer was provided by a willing (if somewhat perplexed) member of the public.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Ivo on 20 July, 2019, 07:36:16 am
I use a frame lock which is standard bolted to my frame. No need to rummage through my bags to find it.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 21 July, 2019, 05:25:59 pm
Thanks all. Think I'll stick with my standard lightweight cafe locks as per most audax rides.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Aunt Maud on 30 July, 2019, 08:31:26 pm
Pah! Fake news if ever I heard it.

The lump hammer was provided by a willing (if somewhat perplexed) member of the public.

Don't mention the lump hammer.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: T42 on 31 July, 2019, 09:01:33 am
I thought Lumphammer was a town in Norway until I discovered Jägermeister.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Pete Mas on 31 July, 2019, 04:08:56 pm
I don't remember ever bothering with a lock on the ride itself, but a cheap cafe lock saved my bike when eating and drinking in a restaurant after registration but before the ride in 2015. Someone attempted to break the lock (unsuccessfully) and we had to borrow cutters to remove the remnants.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: andyoxon on 31 July, 2019, 04:19:05 pm
Interested in this, as I'm looking for new 'cafe' lock, since my small 'oxford' 1.5m combn lock died.  Found I couldn't undo it post coffee stop, after 10 mins I, ahem, spat on it, and moved the lock rings quickly to lubricate - which did the trick. Thankfully.

I use a frame lock which is standard bolted to my frame. No need to rummage through my bags to find it.

I think our insurance policy states - needs to be locked to an 'immoveable' object .... 

edit.  went for this 'cafe lock' ~150g *

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* I'm not doing PBP

Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: FifeingEejit on 31 July, 2019, 04:24:59 pm
I think our insurance policy states - needs to be locked to an 'immoveable' object ...

It'll probably also state a level of lock required which is likely to be twice the weight of your bike and impossible to carry sensibly.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: andyoxon on 31 July, 2019, 04:27:44 pm
I think our insurance policy states - needs to be locked to an 'immoveable' object ...

It'll probably also state a level of lock required which is likely to be twice the weight of your bike and impossible to carry sensibly.

edit.  just 'locked to a fixed object'  No lock standard mentioned AFAIA.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: JohnL on 31 July, 2019, 04:48:50 pm
If you’re with pedalcover there is no standard, which is very useful.
Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Redlight on 01 August, 2019, 11:27:31 am
From what I've read, the major purpose of locking your bike at controls on PBP is so that it doesn't get moved when you're not looking, so you don't waste time trying to find it. 

As a general point, even if you are locking the bike, it's with having some way of easily identifying your one among the hundreds that will be stacked up at the controls, especially at night. It may have looked a bit daft but I have always had a small, brightly coloured cuddly toy fixed to the handlebars or saddlebag for PBP or LEL. It makes it much easier to spot the bike among a sea of identical-looking handlebars and saddles.

Echoing other comments, I always take a lightweight lock too, for cafes, shops, etc.  Of course it won't deter the serious thief - only carrying half a ton of metal would - but it should put off any casual opportunists and I wouldn't want to risk a long, miserable walk to the next control / railway station.

Title: Re: Bike lock
Post by: Tomsk on 01 August, 2019, 08:54:37 pm
As a general point, even if you are locking the bike, it's with having some way of easily identifying your one among the hundreds that will be stacked up at the controls, especially at night. It may have looked a bit daft but I have always had a small, brightly coloured cuddly toy fixed to the handlebars or saddlebag for PBP or LEL. It makes it much easier to spot the bike among a sea of identical-looking handlebars and saddles.

Boggis the singe [don't call him un petit urs, he gets offended] will be coming along for the ride again - doesn't get out of bed for less than 1200kms. Reminded me he needs a tricoleur ribbon to replace his LEL tartan - he sits high up on my bar bag at the front so can be seen from all sides. It helps that my frame is large [Poppy Parkes is 24"] and Carradice bar-bags sit high too. A distinctive saddle cover or other eye-catching marker would work well - it is unbelievable how many bikes get parked in a small space at controls. You might remember you were parked near, say, a red tandem or an Italian club group of Colnagos, but by the time you get back out, all the landmarks have changed!

My cafe lock will probably not get used again this time, but I'll still carry it.