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zzpza

Glue!
« on: 13 July, 2009, 07:49:50 pm »
Can someone recommend me some glue? I have a piece of rubber trim loose in the car. I had glued it using bostic, but the recent heat made it let go. Looking again at the tube, it says "not for use on item that hold hot liquids" or words to that effect. I assume that's because it melts. I've also tried PRK glue too with the same results.

Any ideas?

TIA!  8)

Re: Glue!
« Reply #1 on: 13 July, 2009, 08:07:32 pm »
Rubber? Glue?

Where's the biting lip smiley?

You'll be lucky.

Give silicone sealant a try - but I wouldn't hold your breath - Sorry.

EDIT - what material are you trying to attach the rubber to?

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #2 on: 13 July, 2009, 08:12:41 pm »
Try Evostick Impact, I have success with that on a certain vehicle.
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Re: Glue!
« Reply #3 on: 13 July, 2009, 11:23:45 pm »
Rubber?


Tried the tube of stuff in your P*nct*re Repair Kit?

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #4 on: 13 July, 2009, 11:27:44 pm »
Rubber?


Tried the tube of stuff in your P*nct*re Repair Kit?

Only if you're trying to stick rubber to rubber.

as jurek said, it depends what the other material is. 

Re: Glue!
« Reply #5 on: 13 July, 2009, 11:29:18 pm »


Only if you're trying to stick rubber to rubber.


And both are vulcanised......

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #6 on: 13 July, 2009, 11:31:51 pm »
PM Zipperhead.
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: Glue!
« Reply #7 on: 13 July, 2009, 11:33:00 pm »
PM Zipperhead.

Surely you mean 'PM Mr. Spock'.

Re: Glue!
« Reply #8 on: 13 July, 2009, 11:35:38 pm »
Try proper impact adhesive such as Evostik. Bostik ain't the same (I think it might be water-based nowadays, which equals useless). Roughen the rubber first. if that fails you could try coating the rubber with something - superglue works with some rubbers - then Evostik it.

Re: Glue!
« Reply #9 on: 14 July, 2009, 12:14:59 am »
You need a two part contact adhesive.

One is Bostik 2402, although the fact that it has toluene in it means that the seller now has to have a licence and that makes it harder to find.

I have just been using Stomoprene, which is similar but uses acetone.

Both types have a hardener that is mixed in at about 4%, and then they have a life of a few hours. The mix is put on both surfaces and allowed to dry, before the surfaces are brought together.

Two part contact adhesives are used to hold inflatable boats together.

 
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zzpza

Re: Glue!
« Reply #10 on: 14 July, 2009, 08:27:10 am »
EDIT - what material are you trying to attach the rubber to?

it's a bit of rubber trim partly covered with the same material as the headlining that covers the join between the door seal and the headlining.

i would just put some small self tappers through it, but there's an airbag behind it!

thanks for all the advice.  :thumbsup: i think i'll see if i can find some bostik 2402 (thanks diver300!).  ;D

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #11 on: 14 July, 2009, 10:48:13 am »
Mrs Thor's car suffered with a similar ailment.  The trim also detached when the weather was hot.

This stuff was the only thing that worked.  Silly name, good product.
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Re: Glue!
« Reply #12 on: 15 July, 2009, 05:07:18 pm »
I've just got some Shoe Goo to ...er... repair some footwear, and it seems to be very effective at gluing rubber to other materials. Might be worth a try...
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Re: Glue!
« Reply #13 on: 15 July, 2009, 05:53:04 pm »
Evo-stik Serious Glue (got some from Tescrot) seems to do most things other than polyethylene and polyprop.) and is OK for wet conditions, -30C - +130C (so marginal on LEL) and forms a "life-time bond" (so good for glueing swans). Perhaps "life-time" means that if the bond breaks, you're dead!

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #14 on: 15 July, 2009, 05:57:55 pm »
The best adhesive and sealant out there at the moment is Sikaflex EBT.

Works very well with car trim, it doesnt need to be a contact adhesive as it just relies on it being very very sticky indeed, it will stick glass to glass if you need it to.

In fact I would avoid a solvent heavy two part as it may cause more damage than it solves.

Re: Glue!
« Reply #15 on: 16 July, 2009, 04:52:11 pm »
I think this should be a 'Sticky' topic! ;)

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #16 on: 16 July, 2009, 06:21:33 pm »
I think this should be a 'Sticky' topic! ;)
::-)

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #17 on: 17 July, 2009, 09:57:58 pm »
Any tips for PVC to PVC (specifically, panniers)?  Evostick has lasted less than 6 months, though rivets are still holding things together.

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #18 on: 17 July, 2009, 11:11:53 pm »
I think I once bought a specific PVC adhesive, but remember little about the product or its performance.

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Re: Glue!
« Reply #19 on: 17 July, 2009, 11:25:25 pm »
Any tips for PVC to PVC (specifically, panniers)?  Evostick has lasted less than 6 months, though rivets are still holding things together.

welding is how it's usually done, or (I think) paddling pool patch glue.  But for big joins, welding.  You'd need  a PVC welder though and they're not exactly common outside of factories.