VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square

[Kim]

In tilebagging news, I've finally sucked it up and ridden some of those horrible bits of the Black Country I'd been avoiding.  I now have a max square of 17, awaiting easy expansion by filling in some odd gaps.

[Greenbank]

Climbing to the top of a mountain (unaided of course) and wingsuit flying down (and over an otherwise inaccessible area) would be a similar conundrum.

Seems about at legit as cycling:  Human power, gravity, wind.

It was more about being able to cover otherwise inaccessible squares by flying over them rather than touching the surface of the earth at that point (as you do by cycling, albeit indirectly, walking, running, swimming, kayaking, etc).

[Davef]

Climbing to the top of a mountain (unaided of course) and wingsuit flying down (and over an otherwise inaccessible area) would be a similar conundrum.

Seems about at legit as cycling:  Human power, gravity, wind.

It was more about being able to cover otherwise inaccessible squares by flying over them rather than touching the surface of the earth at that point (as you do by cycling, albeit indirectly, walking, running, swimming, kayaking, etc).

As many of the inaccessible tiles seem to be RAF bases I can see it not ending well.


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[Bolt]

In tilebagging news, I've finally sucked it up and ridden some of those horrible bits of the Black Country I'd been avoiding.  I now have a max square of 17, awaiting easy expansion by filling in some odd gaps.

with grey pays and bacon ?

[Auntie Helen]

Stupid basic question - is a square 1km wide or 1 mile wide?

I am at 30x30 since the beginning of 2019 but am pretty much stuck now due to military bases at two corners of my square.

[JonBuoy]

From https://blog.veloviewer.com/veloviewer-explorer-score-and-max-square/

The squares themselves are based around the standard OpenStreetMap map tile 256x256px image at a zoom level of 14

The physical size of the tiles varies with latitude but round here they are about 1.5*1.5km.

[psyclist]

RideWithGPS have implemented a new auto 'spur removal' feature. I've tested it a bit and it appears to just remove short spurs automatically, not longer ones. For those who use this tool for planning square bagging rides, that'll be something to watch out for.

It's a pity there isn't an option to switch the spur removal feature off, but I guess for the vast majority of users those spurs are unintentional.

[Solocle]

RideWithGPS have implemented a new auto 'spur removal' feature. I've tested it a bit and it appears to just remove short spurs automatically, not longer ones. For those who use this tool for planning square bagging rides, that'll be something to watch out for.

It's a pity there isn't an option to switch the spur removal feature off, but I guess for the vast majority of users those spurs are unintentional.

I use the Strava planner, especially since you get the veloviewer plugin
https://blog.veloviewer.com/veloviewer-chrome-extension-for-strava-website/

[psyclist]

RwGPS provides an OS map view, which I find helpful when determining access rights. All depends on what area you are riding in as to how useful that is, and your mapping tool preference.

[JonBuoy]

RwGPS provides an OS map view, which I find helpful when determining access rights. All depends on what area you are riding in as to how useful that is, and your mapping tool preference.

Does it?

What - real Ordnance Survey?

How do I find that?

[TimC]

Yes, it's one of the map selections in the planner.

Edit: correction, it's not. It's there somewhere though!

[TimC]

And now, having said that, I can't find it! But I know I was looking at an OS map on it very recently. I'll keep looking.

[Davef]

And now, having said that, I can't find it! But I know I was looking at an OS map on it very recently. I'll keep looking.

There is one in veloviewer.


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[TimC]

That'll be it!!

[JonBuoy]

But as far as I am aware you cannot plan routes in Veloviewer.

[TimC]

No, sorry - I think for that you'd need the OS app.

[psyclist]

RwGPS provides an OS map view

Doh! Sorry, didn't engage brain. Was thinking VeloViewer. I switch between the normal view and OS Map in VeloViewer when planning a tile collecting route, and plot the route in RwGPS alongside.

[L CC]

RideWithGPS have implemented a new auto 'spur removal' feature. I've tested it a bit and it appears to just remove short spurs automatically, not longer ones. For those who use this tool for planning square bagging rides, that'll be something to watch out for.

It's a pity there isn't an option to switch the spur removal feature off, but I guess for the vast majority of users those spurs are unintentional.

I use the Strava planner, especially since you get the veloviewer plugin
https://blog.veloviewer.com/veloviewer-chrome-extension-for-strava-website/

Strava route building is now only available for paid subscribers.

[Davef]

I think that will be the case when the new planner comes out. I am still using the route planner and have not paid.


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[thesloth]

It looks like Strava has deployed an update to the route creation tool  ...and the Veloviewer Chrome plugin doesn't appear to work anymore.
Anybody else see anything different?

[quixoticgeek]

It looks like Strava has deployed an update to the route creation tool  ...and the Veloviewer Chrome plugin doesn't appear to work anymore.
Anybody else see anything different?

I am hoping that the author of the VV plugin will update it for the new route planner. I'll give it a week or 3 before I worry about alternatives.

J

[andyoxon]

Perhaps also if a bunch of people email RWGPS support and request a VV route planning grid, they may seize an opportunity...

[Pingu]

It looks like Strava has deployed an update to the route creation tool  ...and the Veloviewer Chrome plugin doesn't appear to work anymore.
Anybody else see anything different?

I am hoping that the author of the VV plugin will update it for the new route planner. I'll give it a week or 3 before I worry about alternatives.

J

VV posted thusly on Facebook:

A quick note on the Explorer Tile overlay (via the Chrome Extension) in the new Strava Route Builder. I've taken a look at the new Route Builder's code/DOM and can't at the moment see a way to overlay the Explorer Tile info. If there are any Javascript Guru's out there (I'm experienced enough to know how average I am at actual coding!) who are willing to take a look then please get in touch. These browser extensions really are a hack and the previous tile overlay was one of the biggest, nastiest hacks I've had to do! I'm not optimistic to find a way to get that to work again unfortunately.
Thanks to all of you that continue to support VeloViewer, it is very much appreciated.

[JonBuoy]

What we really need is for VeloViewer to do a route planning tool!

[FifeingEejit]

What we really need is for VeloViewer to do a route planning tool!

Or... a VeloViewer for another service that has a decent route builder.
I've been using the VV activity map in OS mode and matching it to an OSM view in RWGPS, has worked well enough so far.