Author Topic: Midnight Sun 1200  (Read 456 times)

FifeingEejit

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Midnight Sun 1200
« on: 17 October, 2021, 10:52:31 pm »
This has tempted me enough to stump up the grand sum of £16.80 to reserve a place while I work the rest out
http://vasterbottenbrevet.se/msr1200/

I "think" I've worked out how to do the journey to Umea in 3 days
Day 1: Fife -> Hoek (Stena Night ferry from Harwich)
Day 2: Hoek -> Malmo (TT Night ferry from Travemunde (Lubeck Skandinavianquai))
Day 3: Malmo -> Umea (SJ Night train from Stockholm)

But this requires me to get to Rotterdam for the 1035ish train which gives about an hour to get off the ferry and then an hour and a half to do 30k
and bag up my bike at Malmo (pretty much unavoidable)

And then there's COVID faff of course, I'll need to take yet another test somewhere along the way as far as I can tell (if it was today)

Anyone else, (even if you don't need Hannibal's dodgy milk to give easier logistics).

Re: Midnight Sun 1200
« Reply #1 on: 18 October, 2021, 12:15:28 am »
Why not add a few days for travelling, turn off the hassle and make a holiday of it .

quixoticgeek

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Re: Midnight Sun 1200
« Reply #2 on: 18 October, 2021, 10:23:51 am »
This has tempted me enough to stump up the grand sum of £16.80 to reserve a place while I work the rest out
http://vasterbottenbrevet.se/msr1200/

I "think" I've worked out how to do the journey to Umea in 3 days
Day 1: Fife -> Hoek (Stena Night ferry from Harwich)
Day 2: Hoek -> Malmo (TT Night ferry from Travemunde (Lubeck Skandinavianquai))
Day 3: Malmo -> Umea (SJ Night train from Stockholm)

But this requires me to get to Rotterdam for the 1035ish train which gives about an hour to get off the ferry and then an hour and a half to do 30k
and bag up my bike at Malmo (pretty much unavoidable)

And then there's COVID faff of course, I'll need to take yet another test somewhere along the way as far as I can tell (if it was today)

Anyone else, (even if you don't need Hannibal's dodgy milk to give easier logistics).

Why not do Newcastle -> IJmuiden? as the ferry leg. It's closer to where you're starting from. Then the train just becomes  Driehuis -> Amsterdam, Amsterdam -> Osnabruck, Osnabruck -> Hamburg, Hamburg -> Lubeck Scandi.

The fact you can't take the bike on the train in Sweden is a right royal pain in the arse, but you seem to be aware of that one. As you have to bag the bike anyway, if you are willing to bag it sooner, you can make use of ICE trains for some of the leg, and then you also open yourself up to the possibility of the night trains.

Note that for taking a bike on a German train you cannot book the bike ticket online. It has to be done by an approved ticket agent (I get mine at Amsterdam Centraal). This becomes a real problem if you say need to buy a bike ticket at Hamburg Hbf, where they don't let you take your bike into the ticket office, but they won't let you lock it in sight of the office. When I asked them what the fuck I was supposed to do they suggested I check my bike into left luggage while I buy my ticket. They really have no fucking clue.

For tickets, do look at interrail passes. They have a 4 days in 30 pass that costs €246. I used this for my trip to Finland and it proved very cost effective. It just means you have to arrange tickets for your bike, and a bike space reservation. This cost me €20 each way for my bike from Amsterdam to Travemunde. If you really struggle to find buy a bike ticket, I'm not totally opposed to the idea of going to Amsterdam Centraal for you. If it's plenty in advance, and you tell me exactly which trains you need. They then produce a pdf ticket you can use, as well as a printed version of the same (can post, or arrange to hand over when you arrive in country).

Oh, and salar55 is right, make a holiday of it, .NL is a lovely place to cycle on the way there :p

J
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Midnight Sun 1200
« Reply #3 on: 18 October, 2021, 01:40:44 pm »
The problem with the Newcastle->Ijmuiden ferry is it leaves at 4pm
I cannot work a half day and catch it
In which case I feel I should be moving asap

I've worked out a few options and the Hoek-Travemunde option is currently the most appealing, both for time efficiency and for novelty of route (except for some of the bits along the way to Hamburg)
Snaltaget's luggage restrictions makes their night train useless, and the total amount of time I've spent in Berlin involved being shunted around the Ost Banhof while I slept my way to Praha.

The minimum amount of time I need off to do this is 10 days, which is also the limit before it needs to go to special approval.
10-15 days has to go to my service delivery manager, 16+ days to head of service possibly director.
I have put in for 15 days and waiting to see if I get it. (that'll give me 23 days)

I've already spoken to my mate in Bergen, NH

I've got a cost tracker going in my plans, at present including seat/berth fees, the interrail pass validity period that would be useful for the 15 day approach (7 travel days in 2 months) are roughly the same as the cost to get from Amsterdam to Umea (I worked it out for the newcastle option), and if I do that I can also use the pass to get to/from the ports here.

So I'd only have the seat/bike/berth fees and ferry tickets on top of it.

I've only just managed to find DB's luggage policy is similar to the GB one of "If you can carry it, and it can fit out the way of people, then you can take it"
That helps massively although carrying a bike as hand luggage on a ferry is possibly a bit clumsy, and it looks like can make a faster connection to the ferry at Travemunde by bike than by train+walk.

Seat61's always said DB have a great english speaking call centre for booking tickets so might try them but a handy option QG if I need it.
Although sometimes I find it easier to speak German to a German than try to get my code switch right.


If I get the 3 weeks of that opens up the option to return via the ferry to Vassa, then down to Helsinki, it's just whether I can be bothered with the faff of having a bike with me all that time

FifeingEejit

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Re: Midnight Sun 1200
« Reply #4 on: Today at 01:24:53 am »
Trying to work out what is possible in Sweden has resulted in the inevitable.
And email to SJ customer services.

I've also explored via Finland again, enough Bike Carrying IC trains to Vassa, only €4 for a bike reservation... can I find out how to book a bike reservation in Finland? CIF.

Other option is I just hire a car...
280 quid for an unlimited mileage 14 day hire of a Peugeot 208 from next week, everything else is more expensive is that because I'd barely get out of Skane before it broke down?