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Beardy

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #100 on: 02 October, 2022, 01:16:52 am »
So. Is Mr Larrington the one with the IT geek standard pony tail in the (mostly) no IT geek standard no black T shaped shirts?
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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #101 on: 02 October, 2022, 10:20:42 am »
T-shaped shirts include the grey LEL 2022 one and the black “Tripping With Dr Faustus” item.  And the beard, pony tail and scabby knee.  You may need your Junior Pocket Microscope (Model 3a) to discern the latter.
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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #102 on: 27 October, 2022, 01:32:12 am »
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Kim

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #104 on: 28 October, 2022, 10:34:47 pm »
I see they get the full heroic music montage treatment  :thumbsup:


The drone footage all looks like a computer game, thobut.

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #105 on: 28 October, 2022, 10:43:50 pm »
Seventyseven vs. Horrible Goose.  You read it here first, folks!

Nik has to keep his drone at altitude near timing because it gets on Jun's wick.  If he was USAnian rather than Canadian he'd probably shoot it down :demon:
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Beardy

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #106 on: 28 October, 2022, 11:30:56 pm »
A contentious question perhaps, but how do the pilots of the BM machines compare with the likes of the Trotts, or Hoy or Wiggins at their peak? Has a HPV been piloted by someone of Olympic Or Tour insane levels of fitness?

I don’t want anyone to think I’m belittling what the HPV crowd do but it does seem to be something of a niche activity with the pilot often being an engineer who has taken on the supreme challenge of athletic training.
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Kim

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #107 on: 29 October, 2022, 12:38:07 am »
The François Pervis interview touches on that...

Seems to be a truism that it's only really the para athletes who are up for it.

LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #108 on: 29 October, 2022, 01:01:43 am »
There have been a few high horsepower folk but usually not at their peak. Fast Freddy Markham was a US team rider who did recumbents through his whole career but he wasn’t world class. Jason Queally won a gold medal at the Sydney Olympics but only rode a recumbent after he retired from the British team, similar to Pervis. The best recumbent folk are often close to or have been national level cyclists but not international level.
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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #109 on: 29 October, 2022, 05:17:01 am »
Back in the pre-Cambrian Francesco Moser was said to be planning a record bid either in some Italian contraption that I'm not sure ever made it past the mockup stage or in Wolfgang Gronen's Vector – which did exist – but this never happened, though he certainly did a few test runs in the latter.  Wolfgang's main engine during the time he was involved in the sport was sprinter Gerhard Scheller, who competed in for West Germany at the 1984 Olympics and was a triple national amateur champion, but they never managed a serious world record attempt because Money.  And then they got beaten by Sweet Surprise, a bike knocked up by two Polish monkeys in a shed, so Wolfgang bought the machine on the spot, renamed it “Vector 007” and continued to run it for various riders into the mid-1990s.

Wolfgang's son Andy was later involved with the Whitehawk team, one of whose riders was sprinter Jan van Eijden, four times German champion and World Champion once each in the individual and team sprint disciplines.  He competed at BM at least once while he was still active on the track, before going on to coach for Team GB up until about a year ago.  IIRC the Whitehawk and its Tomahawk predecessor were originally designed to attack the Hour record with Lars Teutenberg riding; going to Nevada was something of an afterthought.  He was well behind Sam and the Varna.

Fast Freddy Markham was on the US squad for the Moscow Olympics* – having been first reserve for Montréal – but then the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan and President Carter wouldn’t let him out to play.  The first Battle Mountain event was twenty years later, though Freddy had scooped the Dupont Prize for the first person to crack 65 mph back in 1986, having already been the first over 50 mph in 1979.  Freddy and the various iterations of Gold Rush were unstoppable in the 1980s but then they came up against Matt Weaver and the Cutting Edge at Portland International Raceway (in those days many streamliners could also go round corners) and got trounced.  That was Matt's first bike race ever and if he’d ever managed properly to finish any of the bike projects he started rather than abandoning them to go on to his Next Big Idea who knows where we'd be now?

Chris Huber, who set the 1992 record in the Cheetah that stood for eight years, was a pro roadie at the time for the USAnian Coors Light team**, and who seems to have been most successful at criteriums.  I've read that the Cheetah was originally supposed to have been ridden by a Danish pro by the name of Johnny Frank but Mr Google has never heard of him.  The bike itself was developed from a machine built by UC Berkeley, who later held the tandem record for many years with the Bearacuda.  Until it was beaten by a machine knocked up by USAnian monkey Larry Lem in his back yard in LA.

Jason Queally and François Pervis competed at BM the year after their final Olympic appearances, and Queally wasn’t going to get anywhere near the record in the Blueyonder, because it was shit***.  The year he failed to crack Freddy's 15 y/o speed was the same one that Sam Whittingham (formerly a national level track rider) in the Varna broke his own record four times in a week and became the first to exceed 80 mph, in a machine knocked up by a Bulgarian-turned-Canadian monkey sculptor in a shed on a small island in BRITISH Columbia.  Alas that was 2001 and I didn’t go until 2002 chiz.

François has indicated he's anxious to have another go and it appears that the IUT Annecy team are both willing and able to build a new bike, which should fit him better.  Previous Altaïr 6 pilots Fabien Canal (mountain biker) and Ilona Peltier (did some junior cyclo-cross) are a fair bit smaller.  Team boss Guillaume de France did ask Ilona if she wanted to have another go this year.  “Too busy”, she said.

Team Policumbent's Andrea Gallo is a useful amateur roadie while Matilde Vitillo is a current pro on Italian road squad Team BePink and even has her own page on Wikinaccurate.  I believe their other rider, Martina Stirano, is some kind of mountain biker, m'lud.  Neither of the new recruits made TaurusX go as well as Vittoria Spada in 2019, though Martina was constantly nobbled by the wind and Matilde only arrived midweek because day job.  BRITISH record holder Ken Buckley is likewise an amateur roadie and performance coach while his Liverpool team-mate Yasmin Tredell was an Olympic standard rower whose participation in the Rio games was, I heard, thwarted by a shoulder injury.  She was advised by the doc to take up cycling while she recovered.  I do not think this was quite what said mediquack had in mind.

* The Olympics back then being nominally for amateurs only.
** Alongside the likes of Alexei Grewal, Davis Phinney and Tyler Hamilton.
*** As noted by Russell with his jubilant declaration about two northern monkeys in a garage beating the Olympic champion and the F1 team.
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #110 on: 29 October, 2022, 05:32:50 am »
Thanks for the correction and comprehensive history.
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #111 on: 29 October, 2022, 11:04:05 am »
Additional: although I've no idea what she did for a living the astonishing Barbara Buatois lists on her palmares winning the women's division of RAAM.  Not just the recumbent class, the whole thing, on a stock Performer low-racer :jurek:

Additional 2: Mike Mowett's Great Big List of Almost Everything contains more data on bikes and riders than can possibly be healthy: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1egqGNqyuFvoupoSMspgFm14nQB5Xfqn47VE4_Z0jSwY/edit
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #112 on: 03 November, 2022, 06:15:58 pm »
Another LBR piece: Andrea Gallo & Phoenix.
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Beardy

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #113 on: 03 November, 2022, 08:13:39 pm »
I forgot to say thank you to Mr Larrington for a comprehensive answer and not just dismissing me as a troll (which was not my intention), so

Thank you My Larrington, and my humble apologies for not responding earlier.
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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #115 on: 08 November, 2022, 07:46:36 pm »
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #116 on: 13 November, 2022, 10:15:31 am »
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #118 on: 26 December, 2022, 11:50:50 am »
If you can persuade your Babbage-Device to have a Frenchish IP address, or are actually in that France that they have now, there is a seven minute piece on François Pervis' escapades at BM this year at https://www.france.tv/france-3/stade-2/4221385-la-conquete-de-l-ouest.html
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Battle Mountain 2022 <== Note subject change!
« Reply #119 on: 11 January, 2023, 06:26:52 pm »
Team Policumbent have just announced the retirement of long-time rider Andrea Gallo from WHPSC competition.  Bah.

Edit: because he's forming Team AerOn instead.  Hurrah!
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