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Title: Mr Simon Watson from the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 11 January, 2014, 12:35:03 pm
He's very rude.  He put the phone down on me after ten minutes.   

Hope I wasted enough of his time to spare a potential victim.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: rusky on 11 January, 2014, 01:42:45 pm
Playing with them is fun isn't it :D
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Dibdib on 11 January, 2014, 01:53:09 pm
I usually only manage a couple of minutes of "which computer?" and "which version of windows?" before getting bored and hanging up.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Afasoas on 11 January, 2014, 02:21:06 pm
Not been fortunate enough to get any of these. I'd have some fun with them :)

I do have fun with the SEO chaps that keep calling me.
They're all very black hat. I'm always courteous and polite and ask them to send me an email with their proposal after the conversation. They NEVER do.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Efrogwr on 15 January, 2014, 08:00:30 pm
I used to play with them, but don't bother now. I just ask how the scam works: even so, it usually takes the caller a while to realise what's happening.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Rhys W on 17 January, 2014, 12:35:53 am
I played with one for about ten minutes before I gave up and told him I knew they were a bunch of scammers. He called me a very very rude word!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Woofage on 17 January, 2014, 09:52:56 am
My best one lasted about 20 mins. I played the novice and I got him to give me very clear instructions because I couldn't find the IE icon. After a while he asked if I was using a Mac to which I replied "No". He eventually got his supervisor who realised I was using Linux so I ended the call. However, about a minute later he rang back but I pretended I was someone else and that he had got the wrong number.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Biggsy on 17 January, 2014, 09:57:38 am
I don't know how you can keep cool with these people.  I'd want to interrogate them.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 18 January, 2014, 09:45:25 am
... He eventually got his supervisor ...

This alone emphasises just how sophisticated this scam is and thus how lucrative this scam must be.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: jsabine on 20 January, 2014, 11:44:04 am
... He eventually got his supervisor ...

This alone emphasises just how sophisticated this scam is and thus how lucrative this scam must be.

Does it? All it shows is that there are two people in the same room. (And perhaps, in this case, that the second one was a little bit brighter than the first.)
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Somnolent on 20 January, 2014, 07:09:41 pm
I usually deal with by the "we have several computers - what is the IP address of the one with the problem?"
Most ring off straight away, some don't.
Occasionally I can resort to - "oh you don't know, let's see if we can help narrow it down, is it one the computers upstairs or one of the computers downstairs?"   then "is it a laptop or a desktop ?"   followed by "black one or the white one ?"

Or, if I'm feeling really silly "is it the zx81 or the Atari ?" 
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: fuzzy on 22 January, 2014, 03:08:31 pm
I usually deal with by the "we have several computers - what is the IP address of the one with the problem?"
Most ring off straight away, some don't.
Occasionally I can resort to - "oh you don't know, let's see if we can help narrow it down, is it one the computers upstairs or one of the computers downstairs?"   then "is it a laptop or a desktop ?"   followed by "black one or the white one ?"

Or, if I'm feeling really silly "is it the zx81 or the Atari ?"

Or ask them if any of the actions they recommend will cause problems receiving communications from M.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: contango on 23 January, 2014, 03:04:21 pm

I've had a few calls from people like these, and depending on whether I've got some time to while away with them I either cut them short or string them along until they give up. My record for stringing them along was just shy of 30 minutes.

One guy told me my computer had a virus, so I asked if he meant it had a cold, and then asked whether I should put some plastic sheeting down in case it sneezed and made a mess on the carpet. After going round in circles on that one for a few minutes he shifted to spyware, so I asked if the neighbours were using a telescope to watch my wife in the shower, and whether James Bond was hiding behind the door. When he said it was in the computer I commented how there wasn't much space in the computer and I didn't know how James Bond could fit inside it.

Surprisingly he still kept trying to get back to his script but after 20 minutes when he asked me to connect to the internet and I innocently read the "web site can't be found" (I disconnected the router so I could get the precise error message) and said that I went to the library to go online he just hung up.

Sometimes when I string these people along my wife has to leave the room because she's practically wetting herself laughing.

On occasion if I can't be bothered to deal with them I just say something like "I'm glad you called, I downloaded 20 gigabytes of hardcore porn and my computer hasn't been the same since" and ask whether the virus it has is an STD it caught from one of the performers.


I think my favourite line was when the guy told me to turn on the computer, and I said "Ah, Scandisk has just started, do you mind waiting" and just let him wait for 15 minutes while I got on with some other stuff. After periodic comments telling him how far it had got I reached 100% and then noticed how that was stage 1 of 5 complete, and it was just starting stage 2, and did he mind waiting a little longer. He said he'd call back, but sadly I was out when he did. I got home to four missed calls from unidentified numbers, so maybe he did actually call back thinking he had a sucker.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Tigerbiten on 23 January, 2014, 04:15:17 pm
I used to switch on my server (Dual 6 core HT cpu's @ 3.9 Ghz, 24Gb ram, twin Raptors in mode 0, 2 vid cards) when I got one of these types of call.
It took about 1 minute to POST due to running a full memory check on 24Gb of ram.
Then it took about 15 mins to load Windoze, I had it make and load a 4Gb RAM drive.
And that was before I started to try and wind them up ..........  ::-)
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: DaveJ on 24 January, 2014, 09:10:05 am
I've been wondering about a VM that I could allow them to connect to.  How long would they spend on it, finding the virus and the other imaginary problems?  Must have a look and see if VirtualBox will run Windows ME.

Dave
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: clarion on 24 January, 2014, 07:56:18 pm
I went to school with Simon Watson.  At the time, his ambition was to become a professional golfist.  Good to see he's made a career for himself after all.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: rachel t on 07 February, 2014, 11:55:24 am
I got a call from "Andrew Smith" from the tech support dept, I managed to string him along for about 10 minutes before I got bored & told him its a scam and I hung up, he was getting more & more irriated and kept trying to get back on script  I do love wasting their time
:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: pcolbeck on 07 February, 2014, 12:19:15 pm
I think I annoyed them when I lead them on for 15 minutes a while ago as currently I am getting up to 4 calls a day from this bunch of idiots. Now I just say "no your not" and put the phone down when the say "I am X from ...."

Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Rhys W on 07 February, 2014, 08:58:07 pm
I've been wondering about a VM that I could allow them to connect to.  How long would they spend on it, finding the virus and the other imaginary problems? 

Er, it's not what they're after...
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: pcolbeck on 10 March, 2014, 01:08:06 pm
And I am still getting three calls a day on average from these idiots. You would think by now they would have realized I am not going to fall for it.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Vince on 13 March, 2014, 07:38:55 pm
I had a call today which I kept going for five minutes (something more interesting came on the TV).

What annoyed me was that these crims speak English more clearly than our staff in the Indian offshore office.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: contango on 09 April, 2014, 02:47:52 pm

I really wanted to set up one of those £1.50/min numbers so if they really wanted to talk to me about the viruses on my computer I'd be happy to chat, happy to set up an isolated laptop or something they could play with to their hearts' content, and basically do whatever they wanted to an old knackered laptop if they wanted to pay me £90/hour for the privilege. Once they were done it wouldn't be that hard to reformat the laptop.

Sadly the rules on premium numbers appeared to explicitly prohibit stringing callers along to keep them on the phone as lone as possible.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Woofage on 23 April, 2014, 01:37:52 pm
Well, I've just got off the phone with "David". After the initial preamble etc he soon ended up calling me a scammer and told me to go f*ck myself. Shame as I was looking forward to a proper wind-up session.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: T42 on 23 April, 2014, 02:38:20 pm
Never mind Simon Watson, we had Mrs. Gates today. "Melinda, darlin', how you BEEN? Click."
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Biggsy on 24 April, 2014, 02:17:43 pm
It's surprising that Bill's wife needs to do that.  At least you know you're getting expert advice.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Cunobelin on 26 April, 2014, 09:45:44 am
MY best one so far was:

I am sorry - but you are saying that you have been able to acess my computer and spot a windows problem

Yes

Ahh... that causes a problem.


Yes - that is why I have contacted you

NO... that CAUSES a problem. My name is Captain Anthony Carruthers-Smythe and this is a secure MOD computer.

Sorry

You have just informed me that you have accessed an MOD secure computer which is an offence under the Official Secrets Act and carries a 6 month custodial sentence

Silence (apart from whispering in the background)

I need your details immediately as we will need to impound your computer to see how you hacked an MOD system

Hung up for some reason
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Vince on 29 April, 2014, 10:34:40 pm
*Like*
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Bledlow on 01 May, 2014, 10:27:40 am
And I am still getting three calls a day on average from these idiots. You would think by now they would have realized I am not going to fall for it.
Yes. I'm getting about two a day at the moment, at about the same times. Weird that they carry on.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 June, 2014, 12:50:50 pm
I just had a phone call from a number I didn't recognise.

Hello?
Pause.
Recorded voice, female, similar to a R4 announcer: Please listen carefully to the following information. Due to recent legislation, those with unsecured debts of £5000 or more -

At this point I hung up.
(yeah, disappointing)
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Vince on 04 June, 2014, 01:00:48 pm
I had one last week.

SW: I'm from windows support
Me: How can I help you?
SW starts usual ramble.
Me: One moment, let me put you through to our IT department
Puts the phone down on the stairs and wanders out to the kitchen to chat with Mrs Wunja, returns to find SW still waiting
Me: Hello, IT department.
SW: We are noticing unusual blah blah
Me: I think we can help you with that, but it's a chargeable service. We are certified in all the operating systems
SW: I'm certified with windows
Me: So we are better than you then
Puts phone down
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Dez on 04 June, 2014, 03:08:58 pm
I had one a few weeks ago. I fired up an Ubuntu VM and kept him occupied for about 10 minutes trying to figure out why the .exe he told me to download wouldn't run.

I had another this morning, but I quickly got bored and after letting him go into detail about how my Windows computer was infected, told him I was using a Mac and he was obviously a scammer.

Next time I think I'll pretend I'm using an Amiga 500. "Press the key to the right of Ctrl..." "What, Caps Lock?"

My 95-year-old great aunt, who has never owned a computer, gets them a lot. They always disbelieve her when she tells them she doesn't have a computer.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: rogerzilla on 04 June, 2014, 06:05:55 pm
I'd take the opportunity to tell Mr Simon Watson that Windows 8 sucks and monkeys fly out of its butt and they suck.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: red marley on 04 June, 2014, 08:29:09 pm
If I'm working at home during the week, I get maybe two or three of these calls a day. It's a real pain.

When I occasionally have time on my hands, I try, through innocent queries, get them to claim they are from Microsoft rather than just "technical department of Windows". I'm sure their script specifically avoids such claims explicitly, but they usually fall for this when they try to ad lib. After that point I say that the call has been recorded and that they can expect to hear from my lawyers shortly. This usually results in some swearing on Mr Simon Watson's part, or a comical claim that I have been wasting their time.

Pointless I know, but a tiny bit satisfying.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Rhys W on 04 June, 2014, 11:01:04 pm
I heard a good one today - ask them where they're calling from, they inevitably say Manchester. Then say you used to live/work there, what part etc.

Say that it has been recorded but don't mention lawyers, say it will be on youtube in a couple of hours!

Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: SteveC on 05 June, 2014, 08:19:20 pm
These b******* got hold of my 75 year old mother a couple of months ago.
Kept her on the phone for an hour, really scared her, she said they 'knew a lot about her computer'.
Fortunately they targeted the one provided by the council which is as locked down as it can be without full disk encryption and not the one I look after for her.
B*******!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Vince on 07 June, 2014, 11:47:28 pm
Today a much shorter conversation, having had to put down something I was working on and get to the phone.
SW: Hello I'm from the support department of w...
Me: Just F*** off

Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Thor on 09 June, 2014, 11:06:14 am
I had been feeling quite left out until today when I received one of these calls at my in-laws'.

Managed to keep the call going for ten minutes or so, at the end of which I was asked why I was wasting his time (!),  then he called me a rude name before ringing off.  And we'd been having such a nice chat!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Rhys W on 19 June, 2014, 07:28:51 pm
Hmmm... Just had a somewhat worrying one - "Jason" from Mumbai knew my name and address. I asked several times how they knew it but of course the reply was always "when you registered with Microsoft". Anybody else had this?

I went through the motions for a while but lost interest and when he asked me to turn on my computer on and tell him what I saw on the screen. He put the phone down when I said "a big Apple logo".
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: tonycollinet on 19 June, 2014, 07:32:31 pm
A billion different mailing lists will have your name and address on.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 05 September, 2014, 11:30:12 am
His colleague Janice from the Security department of Windows has just called.   These are such lovely people appearing to be genuinely concerned for me and my poorly pooter.   

Pity that she put the phone down when I asked her if she was calling from Micro$haft!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Vince on 05 September, 2014, 11:43:44 am
It's odd that they are trying to rip you off, but they won't lie and claim to be Microwotsit
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: mzjo on 08 September, 2014, 08:48:56 am
We have just started getting these calls. The big joke is that they are calling a french number (that they must know is a french number) while being incapable of speaking french (so I insist on speaking french when they know I don't have to). The last time it was a woman and my wife answered. Wasting their time there... she doesn't speak english!!!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: pcolbeck on 09 September, 2014, 03:25:01 pm
Four calls so far today from these muppets.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: contango on 09 September, 2014, 04:17:25 pm
I had been feeling quite left out until today when I received one of these calls at my in-laws'.

Managed to keep the call going for ten minutes or so, at the end of which I was asked why I was wasting his time (!),  then he called me a rude name before ringing off.  And we'd been having such a nice chat!

During one of my calls with these nice people I'd kept stringing him along for 25 minutes when I heard a voice in the background saying "the customer's taking you for a fool". So naturally I acted most offended and pointed out that he called me to help with my issues and I didn't like being kept waiting for a solution for so long only to be called a fool.

Over the course of the next several minutes I let him go through the motions of pacifying me until we got to the "turn on your computer" part. I typed in the web site he told me to go to, read the error message that Firefox couldn't find the web site (I may have accidentally unplugged my router before going that far), so he asked whether I had dialup or broadband internet access.

When I told him I didn't have internet access at all and went to the library to get online he hung up.

It's strangely satisfying to use time I didn't expect to have available to wind up the scammers. That call ran to just over half an hour, which was a new personal best for me. Although for this one my wife didn't have to leave the room due to laughing uncontrollably....
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Afasoas on 12 September, 2014, 10:09:32 pm
Looks like their is a counter-exploit:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/12/phone_scammer_slammer/
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Tigerbiten on 13 September, 2014, 11:17:28 am
I've just wound up 3 of them.
I just had call saying my computer was generating error warnings over the last couple of months.
I asked for a date so I could check my logs as I'm just back from holiday and wanted to know if it was from before or after was away.
They kept trying to get back onto the script and I kept asking for a date so I could check my logs as to what I was doing that day.
I was passed through 3 people until I was told to go forth and multiply .......  ;D
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 October, 2014, 10:07:39 am
Slightly OT, but another form of spam.

In recent weeks I have received a succession of emails from Sally Weston, a Water Pricing Specialist from a company calling itself "Water Audit Services". She is continually reminding me of the importance of water economy to the Southern Counties' Chess Union.

I can't actually recall ever having had an official position on the SCCU - possibly I controlled a few tournaments for them - so I'm a little surprised to be receiving emails of any kind. Added to that, SCCU is a notional organisation. It has no premises. Its officials meet rarely. The purpose of its existence is so that inter-county chess can take place in Southern England. It, quite literally, doesn't have a pot to piss in because it doesn't need one, and it therefore follows that targetting the SCCU with adverts for water economy is inaccurate indeed.

They would probably have more success selling tractors to Ipswich Chess Club.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 10 November, 2014, 10:58:40 am
He has become Miss and has moved to Mexico.

Enjoyed a ten minute chat before she sussed and cut me off.    :D
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: rachel t on 10 November, 2014, 11:29:08 pm
disapointed Ryan from windows hung up on me today, he  started by saying your windows has been reporting errors so I asked was it Coral or Everest windows  :facepalm: at which point hesaid ugh & hung up, the call only lasted about a minute
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: contango on 10 November, 2014, 11:55:27 pm

One of my favourites is when they tell me my computer has viruses I say something like "ah yes, I downloaded 20GB of hardcore porn and the computer hasn't been the same since. Could my computer have picked up an STD?"

They generally don't seem to know whether to disbelieve their good luck that someone might fall for the coming scam, or disbelieve their bad luck that someone rumbled them already.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Bledlow on 12 November, 2014, 12:22:14 am
Rachel:

Ryan? I had a call from Ryan today! From the technical department of Windows, no less.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 November, 2014, 10:14:20 am
What would happen if they called each other?
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 November, 2014, 12:36:45 pm
On the grounds that eg advertising copywriters are the biggest suckers for advertising, they would both con the other!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: huggy on 18 November, 2014, 02:05:29 pm
I get a couple of these calls a month from Mr SW too.  The most recent call I managed to waste about 20 minutes of his time:
Me: "oh, yes, let me just turn on my computer" (it's very slooooow at starting up), put handset on desk...8-ish minutes later...I hear something issuing from the handset.
SW: "How is it going there?"
Me: "Not yet, nearly there" replaces handset on desk...a few more minutes later
SW: "Have you got the desktop yet?"
Me: "just got there, now what is it you want me to do?"
SW: usual blurb to get me to look at the system event log at tell me that all those pretty red triangles show the problem I have
Me: "oh, dear, I see what you mean"
SW: "You need to go to this website and download some software"
Me: "ah, so you want me to give you access to my PC so you can remotely control it, I don't fancy being scammed today, thanks all the same"
SW: "This isn't a scam"
Me: "Yes it is and I think I've wasted enough of your time now so would you like to go?"
SW: "Ha ha, we've already made lots of money out of you because this is a premium rate call that is costing you £199/second"
Me: chuckle "oh really? Let's just rack up some more of those seconds shall we?"
SW: "You will see on your phone bill at the end of the month!"
Me: "I'm putting the handset back on the desk now"
SW hung up after about 30 seconds, I guess he'd made enough out of me by then  ::-)
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: munkeh on 08 December, 2014, 03:36:51 pm
ah, these clever chaps.....

the last few times they rang up, i put on my best indian accent.

"Hello ? Can i help you with your supportings ?"

I make lame excuses about having been from Dheli or Bombay or somewhere, and just go around in circles, asking about random things like " Is the weather nice where you are "  and "does your mother know what you do for a living"

Take all the fun you can get .
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Woofage on 16 December, 2014, 11:12:18 pm
I had an odd one the other day.
"David": Hello. How are you? How is your computer running today?"
Me: "Splendidly, thanks."
David: "Have a good day. Bye."

 ???
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 17 December, 2014, 03:33:14 pm
Three times today which is a fecking nuisance as I am awaiting an important call.

Feck off feckers!!!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Vince on 27 May, 2015, 03:51:16 pm
Been quiet for a while, but today I had a call from Peter Jones. He didn't want to invest in my cunning plan.  :'( :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 18 June, 2015, 10:00:24 pm
My first experience of one of these calls recently. They rang off, thanking me for being so rude :o  I hadn't insulted them, nor sworn nor nuffink :'(
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: hatler on 15 July, 2015, 09:40:23 am
The call I just took was from Alex. Pathetic attempt.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: contango on 16 July, 2015, 02:20:12 am

Don't think I mentioned this one before.

The guy called and gave me the usual gubbins about my computer being infected with viruses (it made a change from internet cyber hacking agents), and asked me to turn on the computer.

So I duly obliged, and talked him through the startup process. Then I paused and said "Ah, Scandisk is running. I forgot I set that to run, trying to fix this problem with my computer. Do you mind waiting while it runs?". The guy first tried to get me to turn off the computer, but didn't press the issue when I said the screen said not to turn off my computer. So I slowly talked him through a fictitious progress from 0 to 100%, periodically asking him random questions like how many kids he had, what the weather was like where he was, asking if he minded me humming while he waited and so on (he didn't, so I did).

After about 15 minutes my fictitious progress bar had made it to 100%, but there was another surprise for him. I said that it had finished, but that was step 1 of 5 but it was OK because step 2 was at 3% already. He declined my invitation to hold on any longer, but said he'd call back later. Sadly I was out, but came home to four missed calls from unknown numbers so I can only assume he did try to call me back. It's a shame I missed his call - it would have been fun to see if he fell for the same line again, or the line that it was still running but step 4 of 5 was at 17%.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: TimC on 16 July, 2015, 08:54:50 am
My company has just caught on to this scam, and has deliberately allowed the whole process to take place (on a computer not connected to anything else in the company) to analyse the scam installation and the methodology. The IT department must be having a slack week, I guess!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: hatler on 16 July, 2015, 09:14:07 am
Very cool. Keep us posted with their findings if you are able.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: TimC on 16 July, 2015, 09:36:36 am
It might be possible. They've said they'll tell us anything we need to know, but I suspect the detailed findings will go straight to the Police. 
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Ham on 16 July, 2015, 11:43:02 am
A little odd, as the systems are mostly well known, tbh. Most of these exploits are based around VNC/re worked VNC which is Open Source remote control software, the scam is to get you to install and establish a connection. As to what the payload is, that will vary from exploit to exploit.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: TimC on 16 July, 2015, 03:47:41 pm
No idea, Ham, not my field. As I say, maybe a slack week in IT! But someone made the effort to write a fairly long email to all 10,000 of us in the company about it.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: jsabine on 16 July, 2015, 10:43:52 pm
Someone's got an intern?
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Afasoas on 17 July, 2015, 12:08:25 am
I doubt an intern would be trusted to isolate the affected machine from the rest of the network.

A honey pot could be fun... the attackers my give away far more information about themselves from such an attack than they realise making it possible to exploit them.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: TimC on 17 July, 2015, 09:05:06 am
Someone's got an intern?

I don't think we have any interns.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: contango on 18 July, 2015, 04:54:51 am
One of the guys I talked to at great length wanted me to go to a web site which was something like support.me

From what I could see of a visit to the site (not while my man was on the phone) it looks like it could be a legitimate support site that allows people to connect based on some kind of shared code. Presumably if I had given my man the code he could have connected to my machine and done whatever he saw fit to it. Somehow I suspect his "free service" might have cost me a lot of money to fix.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: jsabine on 18 July, 2015, 06:29:34 pm
Someone's got an intern?

I don't think we have any interns.

I wasn't entirely serious, more commenting1 on the perceived value of (a) doing this, complete with long emails to the entire company, and (b) an intern's time.



1: Obliquely, sure. Opaquely, no doubt.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Jaded on 19 November, 2015, 09:22:59 am
"Hello, this is Mr so and so about your computer"
     "Oh, Hello."
"Your computer is reporting that it has some problems, we need you to turn it on"
     "Oh, ok, I will do that it will take a bit of time. I have to put the phone down as I only have one hand"

     goes off to get dressed.

     Some time later: "Hello? I've done that. I've turned the computer round"

"OK, what can you see on your screen?"
     "Oh, I can't see anything, it is turned round. It took quite a while as I've only got one hand"
"OK can you see the Start button?"
     "No, I can only see some wires"

long silence

"Can you open Windows then, please sir"
     "Oh, on I'd rather not open a window, it is rather cold, and it is raining."

long silence

"Your computer is reporting it is slow we need to help you, blah blah. Is it turned on?"
     "Oh, you told me to turn it round and I did that, it is turned round. It was quite an effort as I only have one hand."
"What can you see in the bottom left corner?
     "I can see the wire. The wire that goes to the printer. That's what's in the left hand corner."

long wait - probably going through the list of prompts

"We need to look at Windows. What is in the bottom right hand corner of your screen?"
     "On, there's nothing there."
"Nothing? Can you not see any icons?"
     "No, there's nothing. Only some dust."

long wait

"OK, your computer is working fine now."
     "Oh, thank you vey much!"

That' a precis...
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: rafletcher on 19 November, 2015, 09:51:47 am
I bought a "triple" BT6500 phone set. £50 and include answerphone. Thus far the "nuisance screening" feature has blocked 100% of such calls.  And I get to cancel my £3 / month 1571 answer service so they'll have paid for themselves in 18 month. Not as much fun maybe, but I can live with that.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 30 November, 2015, 07:35:24 pm
Interesting purchase.

Mrs Simon Watson called today.   Well, it could have been for all I know.   She announced herself as being from Miscrosoft IT department - I haven't heard that one before.

We had a long discussion about my windows computers sending out stuff and then she claiming that hackers must have control of my computer.   We did a little bit of dancing around which computer and which version of Windows which she inevitable kept getting wrong before she told me that I was very stupid and she would have to block my machine.   I told her in no uncertain terms to go ahead as I don't do business with fraudsters.   The phone went dead.

9 hours later and my computer is still not bloc ... 

Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Wobbly John on 30 November, 2015, 08:46:31 pm
Apparently Mr Simon Watson works for BT as well now, i.e. there is a similar scam where the caller pretends to be from BT.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Ian H on 30 November, 2015, 09:19:08 pm

"OK, your computer is working fine now."
     "Oh, thank you vey much!"

That' a precis...

Wow!  They really fixed it!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Efrogwr on 04 December, 2015, 10:34:31 am
Kevin Williams from Talk Talk called me this morning...
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 04 December, 2015, 10:36:55 am
I was just thinking that it was time for the daily call.   Thanks for fielding that for me.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Somnolent on 04 December, 2015, 08:31:51 pm
Damn - he obviously couldn't get through to me on the phone and he keeps to trying to email me.
Not half as much fun
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 December, 2015, 12:26:20 pm
Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.) alas fell for this yesterday.  Guess what I'll be doing over Christmas :(
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 December, 2015, 11:57:43 am
We are getting about one call a day from 'Simon'.

If mrsC answers the call, her instant response is 'fuck off'.

Mine was 'fuck off, arsehole'.

Voice sounds pretty much the same, same accent. You think they'd give up, wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: ian on 22 December, 2015, 12:07:08 pm
My phone number seems to have 'leaked' as I'm now getting them. And PPI type rubbish. All from overseas to avoid TPS, of course.

I just tell them to 'fuck off' and hang up too. It doesn't seem to be discouraging them. I tried being polite. I did explain to one distant-sounding lady that as my 'accident' was fatal I wasn't sure there was any point in claiming. Apparently that was OK. She didn't seem fazed by the fact.

My computer isn't broke and I've never had PPI insurance or an accident so fuck the fucking fuck off.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 March, 2016, 08:31:39 am
A nice lady from Microsoft phoned me just now. She said it was about "the computer". I adopt a very slow dozy speech style when I get these scam calls. Unfortunately the lady from Microsoft took an early, and accurate, decision that I was about to waste a lot of her time and hung up.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: contango on 07 March, 2016, 04:30:57 am
My phone number seems to have 'leaked' as I'm now getting them. And PPI type rubbish. All from overseas to avoid TPS, of course.

I just tell them to 'fuck off' and hang up too. It doesn't seem to be discouraging them. I tried being polite. I did explain to one distant-sounding lady that as my 'accident' was fatal I wasn't sure there was any point in claiming. Apparently that was OK. She didn't seem fazed by the fact.

My computer isn't broke and I've never had PPI insurance or an accident so fuck the fucking fuck off.

It's fun to play games with them.

I had one guy call me wanting to sell me a phone package so I told him I didn't have a phone. It was surprising just how long that left him confused, I don't think he ever quite regained his sales patter before the conversation petered out.

I still really want to get one of those hugely expensive numbers and give it to every telemarketer out there. If they want to call me I'm not interested. If they want to pay me 90 quid an hour to talk to me, I'll talk to them for as long as they want. It beats working for a living.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Woofage on 16 March, 2016, 10:40:43 am
I don't know if I've mentioned this before but I pretend to be a brother of mine who doesn't exist. Said brother is of independent means, travels the world and lives in hotels (therefore has no landline, broadband, energy account etc, doesn't need a loan, credit card or mortgage and has people to drive him everywhere so doesn't need car insurance either). Said brother is just looking after my house while I'm away on business for an undetermined length of time. Always works.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Jaded on 09 April, 2016, 11:51:44 am
Just had one. The computer was in a different room, so he had to hang on a long time. I told him there was a message on the screen. It said "fuck off you scamming cunt". The line went dead...
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: mattc on 09 April, 2016, 12:15:08 pm
We just had one too!

But I dont think this lady was Mr Simon Watson.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Ham on 28 June, 2016, 11:13:20 am
Just had my first one, he was quite patient explaining how the programs were on my computer on not on the TV, I found that quite hard to understand. Got bored after a while.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 15 July, 2016, 02:40:26 pm
Very rude persons sounding to be of indian or similar origin claiming to be from BT Openworld enquiring to confirm information for my 'new' internet connection.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Basil on 15 July, 2016, 07:12:47 pm
I had that exact one a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Canardly on 15 July, 2016, 07:52:07 pm
Seem to have had an (unanswered) call from France today.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Jaded on 16 July, 2016, 04:37:35 pm
Had one yesterday. He didn't know the word 'cunt' even after several uses of the word.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 16 July, 2016, 04:41:54 pm
'BT' tried yet again today.   This could become good sport.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Thor on 19 July, 2016, 01:14:25 pm
2nd call today.  From the "Windows and Mac department".  They're receiving lots of errors from my computer.

"From the Windows computer or the Mac computer?" I asked.

<click>
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 19 July, 2016, 02:14:38 pm
TPS today.   Wanted to sign me up for life membership.   Wanted my bank card details.   I refused.   "Do you think that we can just take money if you give us the information Sir?" ....

Oh how I laughed.  ::-)
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: SteveC on 25 July, 2016, 07:28:31 pm
Just had one of these. Kept them on the line for about ten minutes and got passed to the supervisor.

Asked them if they were happy doing a job where they came into work and lied to people all day.
And told them that they'd terrified my 75 year old mother when they had her on the phone for an hour one time.

The last words were: 'fuck your mother, fuck your sister' and then in a perfectly polite tone 'have a nice day'.

Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 26 July, 2016, 06:53:32 pm
When the double glazing salesman used to call I spent sometime telling the salesman how I had bricked up all the windows to reduce the window tax element of the rates and how effective it had been.  With the added insulation it reduced my heating bills but the candles were expensive.

More recently in a flight of fantasy when an accident person phoned, I talked to them as if they were 999 and there had just been an accident, the person on the floor was bleeding heavily from multiple places and was unconscious, what did they think I should do?  This went on for several minutes before i asked what i should do with the knife and gun i had used to create the wounds at which point the line went silent!
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: BobScarle on 27 July, 2016, 12:11:59 pm
I was doing really well, got over 14 minutes before he (sorry, his supervisor) cleared down. Couldn't tell me what the errors meant in event viewer despite me getting a very half hearted admission that he was from Microsoft. I was starting to enjoy it as well.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Polar Bear on 28 July, 2016, 11:04:33 am
After an amusing fifteen minutes yesterday afternoon with Michael from Windows Technical Department my boredom threshold was reached and I told them that I was tired and that their thieving ways were not going to work today.   They angrily told me that they were going to f*ck me, my computer, my mother, my sister and my wife before cutting the call.

As far as I know none of their threats have yet come to fruition and that two are impossible anyway. 
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: pcolbeck on 29 July, 2016, 01:52:48 pm
"BT support" have called once yesterday and three times so far today.

Apparnetly I am a "lying them" and a very bad man.

You would thin that after wasting their time a few times they would remove my number form their robo dialer.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: rusky on 15 August, 2016, 09:04:03 am
Just saw this... http://www.geek.com/microsoft/guy-tricks-windows-tech-support-scammers-into-installing-ransomware-1665967/ (http://www.geek.com/microsoft/guy-tricks-windows-tech-support-scammers-into-installing-ransomware-1665967/)
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 August, 2016, 07:54:27 am
That's lovely.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Somnolent on 23 September, 2016, 12:25:58 pm
I had 'Yvonne' from Openreach today.
Nice try in view of the recent MBORC declaration from my ISP (Openreach letting them down and declaring MBORC because of weather !)

Strangely she couldn't update me about the progress of the repairs in my area.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Woofage on 23 September, 2016, 01:26:25 pm
I had someone "from BT" call me yesterday, at work.

fBT: "Can I have the e-mail address of the account holder so I can <blah blah>..."

Me: "You already have that information". <click>
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: rogerzilla on 01 October, 2016, 10:49:19 am
Work colleague had one of these a week or so ago.  He said he was going to check his Windows version, put the phone handset on the desk and left it there for 15 minutes.  Any howling feedback was just a bonus.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: SoreTween on 09 December, 2016, 03:57:22 pm
Just had one of Mr Watson's colleagues on the phone.  If it had got to 5 minutes I'd have lied that I only have linux in the house but he worked out his chances of a successful call in 2 minutes 58 seconds ;D
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: TimC on 11 December, 2016, 10:55:20 am
I had one the other day. Only got his introductory "I'm from Microsoft, about your computer..." out before I told him to FOAD. I'd love to troll these bastards, but I don't have time.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Jaded on 16 December, 2016, 11:28:12 am
"Hellothisissophiefromthetecnhicaldepartmentofbt."

Sorry, where are you from again?

"thetecnhicaldepartmentofbthowreyoutoday?"

From where?

"btbritishtelecomthetechnicaldepartmenthowareyoutoday?"

Why would a technical department want to know how I am?

"becasueyouarestupid"

Click Brrr.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: T42 on 21 December, 2016, 11:31:48 am
Wife just recounted one received from friend:

Scammer: We need to talk about your computer.

Friend: Which one do you mean?

- The one you're using.

- Ah. Well sir, you've reached Salford Police HQ Control Centre and there's upwards of 45 to choose from. Can you be more specific?

- <click>
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Jaded on 21 December, 2016, 12:42:46 pm
Just had one.

After the usual flirting he asked me to put my computer on.

"How old is it"
Oh, it is ten years old. Usually I switch it on and go away.
"How's it going..."
Oh, it usually takes 15 mins to start up.
Spluttering. "Really, why are you not using our services? You should be using our services. 15 minutes is not normal"
Oh, I do use your services. When it switches on it says Microsoft, so I'm definitely using your services. 15 minutes is normal, that's how long it takes!
A bit more outrage from him, followed by
"Right, I'll call you back in 10 minutes, is that OK"

 ;D

Only made it to 4:45 call length, not a record.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 March, 2017, 07:47:36 pm
Quote from: Dez
*Phone rings*
Phyllis: Hello?
*Strong Indian accent*: Good morning. This is Alex from Technical Support. We have reports that your computer is infected with a virus
*Phyllis hands phone to me*
Me: Hello?
"Alex": Hello. My name is Alex and I am a certified Microsoft engineer. We have reports that your computer is infected with a virus. Are you at your computer now?
Me (quickly searching Google Images on my phone): Yes
"Alex": Could you look at the bottom left of your keyboard? To the right of the Ctrl key, what do you see?
Me: Err... Caps Lock
"Alex": No, to the right of Ctrl.
Me: Yes, Ctrl is on the third line and to the right of that is the Caps Lock key.
"Alex": Oh. One moment please, I need to put you on hold and talk to my supervisor.
*Hold music*
*Second Indian*: Hello. This is Peter. I am the supervisor. Could you tell me what key is to the right of Ctrl?
Me: Yes, Caps Lock.
"Peter": No, in the bottom left of your keyboard.
Me: The bottom left key is Alt. Ctrl is on the third line above Shift.
"Peter": Oh, um. Is the computer you are using a Windows computer?
Me: No, it's an Amiga 500.
*click*
Electronic Lady: The other person has cleared.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: madcow on 19 May, 2017, 12:42:07 pm
I kept the guy talking for over 15 minutes today. When I told him that my screen had gone blank for the third time after following his instructions to press the windows key and R at the same time , he told me that I was suffering from Oedipus complex (or something similar to do with my mother ) and hung up.
Most strange behaviour from such a nice educated gentleman.

Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Mr Larrington on 28 June, 2017, 06:25:32 pm
Four Simon Watsons arrested after two year inquiry by police and Microsith (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40430048) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: SteveC on 28 June, 2017, 06:41:13 pm
 :thumbsup: indeed
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Ham on 03 July, 2017, 10:58:53 am
Project Mayhem is fighting back

https://www.patreon.com/ProjectMayhem
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Phil W on 03 July, 2017, 04:13:40 pm
Project Mayhem is fighting back

https://www.patreon.com/ProjectMayhem

That's great
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Bledlow on 03 July, 2017, 05:34:08 pm
I had two calls in a day, from different Indian young ladies working for Computer Technical Department.

I'm afraid that I expressed doubt about the credentials of one of them, due to the similarity of her employer's name to that used by some operators of a well-known disreputable enterprise. She got rather heated, & eventually I found her insistence that she & her firm were entirely honest & nothing to do with any scammers a little overblown, so hung up.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Salvatore on 27 July, 2017, 02:24:13 pm
Quote
This week, a telephone scammer makes a terrible mistake. He calls Alex Goldman.

A journalist investigates scammers, and has some fun. Some unexpected turns.

Worth a listen (50 mins)

https://gimletmedia.com/episode/long-distance/

This is only part 1. I'm intrigued as to what part 2 will reveal.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 October, 2020, 12:24:30 pm
Just told “Amy” from “Microsoft” to fuck off after pretending to roar with larrfter for approximately 35 seconds.  Sometimes I crack me up :demon:
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: hatler on 19 October, 2020, 12:31:27 pm
I managed to spend 20 minutes with one of these low-lifes the other day.

I'm delighted to report that at the end of the exchange she accused me rather angrily of 'wasting her time'.

Splendid.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: robgul on 19 October, 2020, 01:22:36 pm
I now ask if we can cut to the chase to save time and I'll give them my bank details right now . . . usually works.   The other thing I do is say "Just hang a couple of minutes and I'll be with you" . . . and just leave the phone off the hook.

However, I suppose there must be people that fall for this otherwise they wouldn't do it . . . . although the "big money" from Nigeria stuff seems to have disappeared?
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: DaveReading on 19 October, 2020, 02:20:20 pm
I managed to spend 20 minutes with one of these low-lifes the other day.

I'm delighted to report that at the end of the exchange she accused me rather angrily of 'wasting her time'.

Splendid.

That's pathetic.

You'll find that, with practice, you can keep them on the line for up to an hour.   ;)
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: hatler on 19 October, 2020, 04:10:26 pm
I managed to spend 20 minutes with one of these low-lifes the other day.

I'm delighted to report that at the end of the exchange she accused me rather angrily of 'wasting her time'.

Splendid.

That's pathetic.

You'll find that, with practice, you can keep them on the line for up to an hour.   ;)
:-)   I promise to do better next time.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: TheLurker on 19 October, 2020, 04:12:27 pm
Quote from: robgul
The other thing I do is say "Just hang a couple of minutes and I'll be with you" . . . and ...
... select one of the evening Ragas on my tablet, set it playing and then place the handset so it can be heard easily while I get on with something more important. 
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 March, 2021, 11:38:27 am
"Dear Customer, There is an order of Apple iPad from your Amazon account..."

No there fucking isn't, you lying git.

And is it deliberate policy that these scammers have employed a reassuringly deep-brown baritone Welsh-accented voice for these recorded falsehoods, or has John Humphrys moved seamlessly from one career to another?
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Bledlow on 15 March, 2021, 12:19:32 pm
I got one this morning with what would have been a rather pleasant English woman's voice, but for the jumpiness from splicing words out of the sequence in which they were spoken.

Apparently, my NI number has been used fraudulently somewhere near the border with Wales, & I should contact the National Insurance authorities immediately.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 March, 2021, 12:35:52 pm
Now I'm intrigued.  How does one use a NI number fraudulently?  And what happens if you do?  Does Thérèse Coffey come round your house and [“stop right there!” – Ed.].
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Beardy on 15 March, 2021, 12:48:08 pm
Now I'm intrigued.  How does one use a NI number fraudulently?  And what happens if you do?  Does Thérèse Coffey come round your house and [“stop right there!” – Ed.].
oi, that’s my MP you’re having fantasies about. Hang on, she’s a Tory, ok carry on.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 March, 2021, 01:17:42 pm
Even Hummers wouldn’t fantasise about La Coffey.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Bledlow on 15 March, 2021, 01:56:50 pm
Now I'm intrigued.  How does one use a NI number fraudulently?  And what happens if you do?  Does Thérèse Coffey come round your house and [“stop right there!” – Ed.].
I did wonder (not about Ms Coffey).
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 March, 2021, 02:34:34 pm
Bollocks. Now I'm unsure if this is spam or not...

Quote from: Email
Please view and print the attached bill of lading \ invoice.
 
 
Thanks
 

Account Executive

O: 816.949.6842 x6842 | F: 913.643.9252

www.freightquote.com



Additional contacts:
Customer Service Team |  o: 800.323.5441
 

*************************************************************************************************************************
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the sender of the e-mail. The sender of the e-mail accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. (IP)
*************************************************************************************************************************

And then there's an attachment which I am reluctant to click.

I can't find a reference to that order number anywhere else in my emails.

Edit: I'm treating it as spam for the moment...
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 15 March, 2021, 02:55:28 pm
Freight quote. Com appears to be a USA specific freight broker for full / part lorry loads of stuffs. I can't find (on a cursory look) that they have a UK operation, so what's with the 0800 number (unless it forwards to USA)?
It smells like tinned spiced ham to me.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: ian on 15 March, 2021, 02:55:40 pm
It is. Don't.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 March, 2021, 02:57:13 pm
Thanks. I have something on order which has to come from foreign climes, but I would expect any relevant emails to actually identify what is there.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: robgul on 15 March, 2021, 03:02:39 pm
It does seem that these scam calls are on the increase - in the past 9 or 10 days my wife and I have ordered 7 iPads from Amazon!!  (Oh, no we haven't) - and Microsoft (from an Oxford phone number) has called a couple of times, our BT account is being shut off tomorrow morning and HMRC want an online payment.  Email "invoices" seem to be starting up again - I get a regular one from some business or other in Southampton.

Ho hum, it brightens these lock-down days.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Kim on 16 March, 2021, 01:11:16 pm
Bollocks. Now I'm unsure if this is spam or not...

Quote from: Email
Please view and print the attached bill of lading \ invoice.
 
 
Thanks
 

Account Executive

O: 816.949.6842 x6842 | F: 913.643.9252

www.freightquote.com



Additional contacts:
Customer Service Team |  o: 800.323.5441
 

*************************************************************************************************************************
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the sender of the e-mail. The sender of the e-mail accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. (IP)
*************************************************************************************************************************

And then there's an attachment which I am reluctant to click.

I can't find a reference to that order number anywhere else in my emails.

Edit: I'm treating it as spam for the moment...

Looks like a classic trojan.  I'll bet the attachment is something a bit more occuous than a PDF.  Isn't it nice that viruses come with boilerplate disclaimers nowadays?
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: TimC on 16 March, 2021, 01:28:56 pm
Freight quote. Com appears to be a USA specific freight broker for full / part lorry loads of stuffs. I can't find (on a cursory look) that they have a UK operation, so what's with the 0800 number (unless it forwards to USA)?
It smells like tinned spiced ham to me.

There’s no ‘0800’ number on that email. There’s an ‘800’ number, along with ‘816’ and ‘913’. ‘800’ is the US freecall code. The other numbers are also US. I wonder if this is a scam related to Wowsa’s alter-ego participation in the Trump affair?
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Kim on 16 March, 2021, 05:22:15 pm
Bollocks. Now I'm unsure if this is spam or not...

Quote from: Email
Please view and print the attached bill of lading \ invoice.
 
 
Thanks
 

Account Executive

O: 816.949.6842 x6842 | F: 913.643.9252

www.freightquote.com



Additional contacts:
Customer Service Team |  o: 800.323.5441
 

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This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the sender of the e-mail. The sender of the e-mail accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. (IP)
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And then there's an attachment which I am reluctant to click.

I can't find a reference to that order number anywhere else in my emails.

Edit: I'm treating it as spam for the moment...

Looks like a classic trojan.  I'll bet the attachment is something a bit more occuous than a PDF.  Isn't it nice that viruses come with boilerplate disclaimers nowadays?


..and I just got one too.  With an .xlsm file attached.  Nothing good can come of Excel macros *gestures in the general direction of the global finance industry*, so I ceremonially deleted it.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: hatler on 15 April, 2021, 10:25:53 am
Caller: "Hello, I'm calling from the Microsoft."
Blah blah blah.
Caller: "Can you please check your Windows computer."
Me: "Which one, I have eight ?"
Caller: "Any one, it doesn't matter, they're all connected."

Caller: "We're seeing lots of error messages."
Me: "What do the error messages say ?"
Caller: "They say 'Fuck you'"

:-D
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 15 April, 2021, 11:05:54 am
Last time that happened I told them I did not have a computer.   They probably said fuck you after I put the phone down.  I googled the caller number, Baltimore, Ohio ISTR.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: Mr Larrington on 01 June, 2022, 12:56:06 pm
I see Smile are quick off the mark

Quote
From:
smile <redacted>
To:
Mr Larrington <also redacted>
Subject:
New Impersonation Scam - Be Aware


We have been alerted that some customers may have received a phone-call from fraudsters posing as representatives from Amazon and other well-known organisations including BT, HMRC and Microsoft. This is known as an impersonation scam.

Scammers are very clever and will try to persuade you to download software, such as 'Team Viewer' or 'AnyDesk' to your phone or laptop. They may claim there is a security compromise or an issue in relation to a refund on your account that needs attention via the software they have asked you to download.

This software allows the fraudsters to access your device. During the conversation with you, they'll ask you to log in to your online bank account and emails. NEVER log in to your online banking account when anyone else has access to your device, as they can attempt to make payments from your accounts without you realising and stop any message or contact attempts from us to warn you of suspicious activity.

:facepalm:
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: FifeingEejit on 01 June, 2022, 10:14:13 pm
For some reason this has reminded me of a Windows 3.11 tool, Dr Watson
But I think that was legit
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson from the technical department of Windows
Post by: Bledlow on 16 September, 2022, 05:26:04 pm
We're from your ISP's technical department. Your router is infected. Run W3C validator. See all those errors? They're caused by the viruses and invalid files on your router. They're slowing down your connection. We need to fix that. First, download this piece of software . . . . 

From "Thomas" & his colleague in a noisy call centre, in Indian-accented English with snatches of what sounded like Hindi or something similar between them or to colleagues.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson fron the technical department of Windows
Post by: TheLurker on 16 September, 2022, 08:04:38 pm
Quote from: hatler
Caller: "Hello, I'm calling from the Microsoft."
Blah blah blah.
Caller: "Can you please check your Windows computer."
The temptation to reply, "I'm sorry, but my windows are manually operated.  Goodbye." would be hard to resist
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson from the technical department of Windows
Post by: Lightning Phil on 16 September, 2022, 08:06:42 pm
Nah you just put phone down. Wait a while then say, yep done that when you’ve done absolutely nothing. They ask for next action and repeat.
Title: Re: Mr Simon Watson from the technical department of Windows
Post by: Diver300 on 10 April, 2023, 02:13:50 pm
Today I got a call allegedly from a UK mobile number that I didn't know and the foreign-sounding lady gave a typical British name and said she was from Microsoft, so I hung up.

About a minute later, she called from a different UK mobile number and asked "Why did I hang up?" so I obviously hung up again.