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Title: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 02:05:17 pm
the start will be at the Golden Lion in Romanby (near Northallerton station) at midnight, on Friday 5th July

N.B. this is the Golden Lion at DL7 8HA and not the Golden Lion in Northallerton itself. To find it is very simple - leave the station to the west (through the car park on the same level as the platform), exit the car park, turn left, cross the level crossing, and you're there. Like this (http://goo.gl/maps/yvxlY). We'll be in the beer garden at the back.

Third year of running for this - who fancies it again? An overnight ride to Tan Hill high up in the Yorkshire Dales, which is the highest pub in the UK, and an institution in the finest sense of the word.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5021/5583185586_e527792459_z.jpg)
Tan Hill, from the east.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5273/5896013349_1b252bc075_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/5896013349/)
The gang at York Station in 2011

The thread for the first ride is here:

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=45766.0

And though last year's ride was a smaller affair, with less clement weather (I promise to order the same weather as we had in 2011), much fun was again had by the attendees.

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=59135.0

As above, the start point will be at the Golden Lion in Romanby, which is a welcoming pub conveniently close to Northallerton station (leave the station to the west, pass the station car park, turn left across the level crossing, and you're there).

Breakfast will be available at the pub. £5 a head, vegetarian option available, and we'll work out the payments on the day.

Getting to Northallerton:

Northallerton has pretty good transport links - Grand Central services from London stop there and are very bike-friendly, as are the Trans Pennine Express services which also drop off at Northallerton.

If you are coming from the south and catching a service which doesn't stop at Northallerton, you may have to change at York, in which case the Trans-Pennine Express trains are very welcoming to cyclists, and do not require a bicycle reservation.

leaving Tan Hill:

Kirkby Stephen is the closest station, but this has small, infrequent trains which serve Carlisle and Leeds. Useful for getting south or west, but there may be issues with space for bicycles (although, two years ago, Wowbagger was the only cyclist from our group to use Kirkby Stephen, and he reported no problems). About 13 miles away, vastly downhill, with some steep pulls where you cross the denes, and the last bit to the station is uphill.

Darlington is about 30 miles away from Tan Hill, all downhill, and has frequent services on the East Coast main line. As we did two years ago, I will lead a group back to Darlington. I would allow at least three hours for this ride, when booking trains. However, the route is very simple, so you could go off on your own without getting lost (http://goo.gl/maps/C50PS).

Attending:

Me
tiermat
mrcharly
Phanta
Wowbagger
mcshroom
Kim
andrewc
tom_e
"Slow"Coach
jane
Andrew Br
Dave L
lantern rouge
CrinklyUncle
Canardly
Loadsabikes

Meeting at the pub:

LindaG
CrinklyLion + Cubs
Mrs Miggins

Possible:

JenM

Can't come

crusty
CrinklyAuntie
billplumtree
Polar Bear + 1
boab
boab minor
CrinklyLion

????

Shyumu
Daisyhill
jogler
newtoncap

THE ROUTE

This is the route from Romanby/Northallerton to Scotch Corner:

http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=572514

N.B. the route through Northallerton is merely sketched in, and at Scotch Corner we will make a decision on whether to take the simple, direct route to Tan Hill, or whether to essay the longer route, so here we have two routes.

The longer route:

http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=572520

The direct route (as backup in case we're pushing for time, or it's blowing a hoolie):

http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=572523

(thanks to mrcharly for the BRT work)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: L CC on 24 March, 2013, 02:13:16 pm
We can't do that weekend.  :'(

But it was the Very Best Ride of the year in 2011, and that was a year with a lot of good rides.

I commend it to the House (as they say)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 02:14:30 pm
Damn.

It's probably the best weekend for me - the week before is the Pendle, for example.  You're not doing that, are you? :o
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 March, 2013, 02:17:48 pm
28th June could well be ideal for me. I still have a little more teaching to do so we won't be away. York was OK but I'm also fine with Northallerton. I'm pretty sure that more trains from Kings Cross stop at York.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 02:19:12 pm
You might have to change at York, Wow.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 March, 2013, 02:22:14 pm
I think I can do that date and would really like to do this ride again.

Not bothered by the starting location, but if we set off from York it needs to be an hour earlier than the 2011 ride. We would have been fine on that one but were plagued by punctures. Doesn't take many to really eat into the ride time.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 02:23:33 pm
Aye, if it was York I'd ask everyone to be there for an 11 pm start (or possibly earlier). Tiermat did that last year.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: clarion on 24 March, 2013, 02:26:29 pm
The weekend before is the York Rally.  And the weekend before that is when I'm die to become a dad again. :)

So I think we're unlikely, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 24 March, 2013, 03:16:31 pm
Either start is fine by me, although I agree we need an earlier start if we are going from York.

I should be there :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Polar Bear on 24 March, 2013, 04:33:54 pm
It's a ride I'd really like to do but the distance from York is just too far for me.   Don't change just for me as I'd then have to book trains etc., but I'd vote for Northallerton.

Remember, I'm not a mile crunching hardened faudaxer...   ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: L CC on 24 March, 2013, 04:41:04 pm
You're not doing that, are you? :o

*snigger*

No. We're doing Y-L-Y at the start of June then Flat Holl and Back that weekend. I've just tormented myself with the photos from the 2011 ride.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: shyumu on 24 March, 2013, 04:46:54 pm
Just registering an interest... would like it if Daisyhill could do this ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 05:01:30 pm
It's a ride I'd really like to do but the distance from York is just too far for me.   Don't change just for me as I'd then have to book trains etc., but I'd vote for Northallerton.

Remember, I'm not a mile crunching hardened faudaxer...   ;)

Aye - that's kinda my thinking, PB, after Tiermat (I think it was Tiermat) suggested starting at Northallerton.

I like the route from York (for lots of reasons), but starting from Northallerton knocks loads of mileage off, and makes it open to those who don't feel capable of riding 125 miles overnight.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Polar Bear on 24 March, 2013, 05:02:55 pm
And, it would be great to see you guys again, of course...   ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 06:00:57 pm
Just registering an interest... would like it if Daisyhill could do this ride.

Bring the family!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: CrinklyUncle on 24 March, 2013, 06:43:57 pm
We're doing Y-L-Y at the start of June then Flat Holl and Back that weekend.

I'm riding these two as well, so I can't make this :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 24 March, 2013, 06:48:49 pm
Interested depends on trains ect NA would be good for me as well.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 06:48:57 pm
Hmm, that's two people who'd like to move the date.

Also, Gerry's organising a 100 from Wiggy on Sunday June 30th, which I imagine a few locals might want to attend.

Any thoughts on Friday 5th July?

Unless there are any major objections, shall we move it to Friday 5th July?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: CrinklyAuntie on 24 March, 2013, 06:50:39 pm
I'm very tempted and the pink bike should be up and running by June.  Not sure about the distance though, I'll have to work on that.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Kim on 24 March, 2013, 07:12:34 pm
Any thoughts on Friday 5th July?

Unless there are any major objections, shall we move it to Friday 5th July?

Would get my vote, as there's a 100 local to me on the 30th too.

Not that I've looked at trains yet.

Or got any cycling fitness...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: CrinklyUncle on 24 March, 2013, 07:34:39 pm
Any thoughts on Friday 5th July?

I can make the 5th, but go with what works for the most.

If the date is changed I'd vote for a York start.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: thelazycyclist on 24 March, 2013, 07:41:39 pm
Yes, I'm in.  5th July is good for me, although end of June equally good. 

Either start is okay, but Northallerton would be fine with me. 

btw it's a good job it was me that got an earful off the toilet attendant in Reeth.  If Jogler had got hold of her I think he might have knocked her out.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 24 March, 2013, 08:24:32 pm
I suppose I may as well go for a hat trick...   I'm fine with either date.

Plz to cancel bastard headwind up the valley this year..
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 24 March, 2013, 08:25:51 pm
5th July would probably suit me better as then I could join Mark on to Holl and Back.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: L CC on 24 March, 2013, 08:42:13 pm
5th July is free from audax, but I have complex childcare issues that could mean a family outing (me & boab minor onna tandem up that Hill??!!!!) or free & childless. Either way we'd be much more likely, to the point of keen, for that date (assuming we could find accommodation afterwards?).
York without childers, NTR with. So whatever the majority votes on as I really don't know what's going to happen with the offspring visiting the other parent.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 24 March, 2013, 09:02:35 pm
5th July is free from audax, but I have complex childcare issues that could mean a family outing (me & boab minor onna tandem up that Hill??!!!!) or free & childless. Either way we'd be much more likely, to the point of keen, for that date (assuming we could find accommodation afterwards?).
York without childers, NTR with. So whatever the majority votes on as I really don't know what's going to happen with the offspring visiting the other parent.

Come to York and drop the chiddlers here!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 11:05:28 pm
Any thoughts on Friday 5th July?

Unless there are any major objections, shall we move it to Friday 5th July?

Would get my vote, as there's a 100 local to me on the 30th too.

Not that I've looked at trains yet.

Or got any cycling fitness...

That settles it (if Boab already hadn't). Kim Must Be There.

Fifth of July it is.  At least there'll be no surprises on the run back into Darlo this time.

I'll change the OP in the morning.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Karla on 24 March, 2013, 11:13:46 pm
Assuming I haven't ditched the 24 plan between now and then, I'm out.  I don't think I should miss a night's sleep 2 weeks before the big (and long) day.  Have a good ride everyone!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 11:23:50 pm
Assuming I haven't ditched the 24 plan between now and then, I'm out.  I don't think I should miss a night's sleep 2 weeks before the big (and long) day.  Have a good ride everyone!

You could come along to the start and scare Kim again!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Karla on 24 March, 2013, 11:25:45 pm
Assuming I haven't ditched the 24 plan between now and then, I'm out.  I don't think I should miss a night's sleep 2 weeks before the big (and long) day.  Have a good ride everyone!

You could come along to the start and scare Kim again!

Kim, how did I scare you last time?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 March, 2013, 11:30:23 pm
I think the photos (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=45766.msg986217#msg986217) tell their own story.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: Karla on 24 March, 2013, 11:41:50 pm
That is a shocking lack of solidarity.  EE students and Sheffield peeps should stick together.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - June 28th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 25 March, 2013, 07:52:23 am
Either date works for me, but as there has been some wanting change, go for 5/7.

I vote for the obvious start point for me (i.e. the one that doesn't involve me getting a train! :) )
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 March, 2013, 08:37:57 am
Strong support for York at the moment, though. Get voting if you don't agree!

I've changed the date to Friday 5th July.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 March, 2013, 08:51:09 am
That clashes with the proposed Normandy weekend, for which my name is down.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 March, 2013, 02:50:37 pm
Sorry, Wow - I did check the calendar, where there were no clashes, and it seems the 5th July is the most suitable date for this.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 March, 2013, 08:45:04 pm
Dead heat in the voting as it stands - I'm tending towards Northallerton, though.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 27 March, 2013, 09:12:58 pm
The proposed Normandy trip seems to have found itself amongst the fallen so I'm expressing an interest again.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 27 March, 2013, 09:14:48 pm
Excellent. Nobody else has mentioned a clash with July 5th.

Firm majority for Northallerton now.

Shall I call it, so people can start planning? Only three months and eight days to go!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 28 March, 2013, 08:53:48 am
Wouldnt mind a go at this. Trains are a tad spendy tho'
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 28 March, 2013, 10:13:47 am
Wouldnt mind a go at this. Trains are a tad spendy tho'

Easy answer, persuade loadsabikes that he wants to do this, get him to drive his bus up here, park at, or near ours and Bob's your auntie's live in lover :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 28 March, 2013, 10:18:52 am
I am tracking tickets. Loadsa is working on new ventures not sure how he will be fixed atm. I could bring car but train makes more sense really. Course on each of the two train sets East Coast use,  bike storage is at the opposite ends of each type of train....strewth.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: JenM on 28 March, 2013, 10:23:25 am
Looking on East Coast trains I think that they have not released fares that far in advance - if (for example) 5 June is selected it is possible to travel for £28 return on selected trains.  Just need to hang on a week or so.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 28 March, 2013, 10:28:22 am
Wouldnt mind a go at this. Trains are a tad spendy tho'

You probably know, but just in case - cheap train tickets aren't released until three months before the date (and sometimes a bit closer to the time).

For getting away from Tan Hill, we'll probably do the same as last time: I'll lead a group back to Darlington, and anyone else can catch a train from Kirkby Stephen (small trains and an infrequent service, but it's the closest station).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 28 March, 2013, 10:47:27 am
Darlington seems less problematic train wise for me.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 28 March, 2013, 11:03:51 am
East Coast trains have only released tickets up to June 14th- I am desperately trying to book a ticket up to Glasgow using my Rewards points on that date- it's proving tricky.  They have availabilty apparently, but not showing it when I try and book it.  Then they want to charge me lots.  And the phone line is permanently engaged with the most annoying holding muzak which sounds as though it's being played through a force 10 gale, or on a badly tuned old wireless.  Plus the occasional intervention of an annoying woman who keeps reminding me my call is important (I know, I'm not in the habit of making unimportant calls during my very rushed 10 minute break) and apologising for the delay in (sic) keeping me waiting.  Actually, madam you are being extremely prompt and efficient in keeping me waiting, I couldn't fault your company in that particular area of customer service.  And now the kids are back from playtime, so I better stop swearing at my phone and prepare to waste my lunch break in two hours time.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 28 March, 2013, 12:49:12 pm
I'd quite like to do this. It'll be night time, so I won't be able to see the hills.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: L CC on 28 March, 2013, 01:43:10 pm
I'd quite like to do this. It'll be night time, so I won't be able to see the hills.
Nice try, but you hit the hills (as it were, I'm not advocating violence-against-landscape) in the early morning, in bright summer sunshine, so every undulation shows its glory.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 28 March, 2013, 03:57:46 pm
For the first ride, I was assured that the hills would be safely hidden behind the mist and rain (they weren't).  I was also assured that it was a gentle climb (it's not - it undulates like a bastard).  It is, however, downhill all the way to Darlington.   ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 28 March, 2013, 04:05:01 pm
Hang on!

I said it's a nice gentle climb, with the following qualifications:

1. After Langthwaite
2. Excepting the last bit before the pub
3. In comparison to all other available routes to the pub.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 March, 2013, 04:05:50 pm
When we did it a couple of years ago the weather was perfect.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 28 March, 2013, 04:22:41 pm
When we did it a couple of years ago the weather was perfect.

It was pretty good on most of the recce runs, too - though there was a very very wet ride up there.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 28 March, 2013, 04:23:23 pm
I'd quite like to do this. It'll be night time, so I won't be able to see the hills.

How about this route?

http://goo.gl/maps/E12WR

(only kidding)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: jogler on 28 March, 2013, 07:25:38 pm
It can't be that hilly...even I managed it without resorting to the 24" gear.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: jogler on 28 March, 2013, 07:27:02 pm
I am tracking tickets. Loadsa is working on new ventures not sure how he will be fixed atm. I could bring car but train makes more sense really. Course on each of the two train sets East Coast use,  bike storage is at the opposite ends of each type of train....strewth.

Can you not offer someone a lift & share petrol costs?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 28 March, 2013, 08:03:33 pm
Allways do. Rollrights Banbury Brum tickets have been burned. Trains will still be involved with Tan Hill thinks.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 29 March, 2013, 08:15:31 am
I'd quite like to do this. It'll be night time, so I won't be able to see the hills.

How about this route?

http://goo.gl/maps/E12WR

(only kidding)
If we went that way, we could leave our calling card at the door of the Thwaite Arms in Horsehouse.   I'm sure I could devise something appropriate for the charming gentleman that runs the place.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 29 March, 2013, 08:29:56 am
Excellent idea!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: shyumu on 30 March, 2013, 10:36:54 pm
In your experience, what time do you arrive at Tan ill?

We have a group ride planned for the following morning at 7am, starting from toytown - there may be a scheduling clash unless I cycle faster.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 March, 2013, 10:52:04 pm
It was after 11 for me...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 30 March, 2013, 11:19:00 pm
I don't think I ever actually got to Tan Hill.  I remember doing SCIENCE with some sheep, and next thing I know I was sliding along at speeds in excess of R17 on gravel.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 30 March, 2013, 11:26:52 pm
I don't think I ever actually got to Tan Hill.  I remember doing SCIENCE with some sheep, and next thing I know I was sliding along at speeds in excess of R17 on gravel.

You were there in body, if not in spirit.....  I arrived to find you asleep on one of the pews they had for seating,lying perfectly straight,  looking like a vampire waiting for dusk....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 31 March, 2013, 12:57:00 am
I don't think I ever actually got to Tan Hill.  I remember doing SCIENCE with some sheep, and next thing I know I was sliding along at speeds in excess of R17 on gravel.

Pretty certain this was taken in the pub car park: -

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/11630-1/DSC07148.JPG)
Especially as I don't think the photographer (Wow) did the COR section.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 31 March, 2013, 08:40:50 am
I did indeed take that photo in the pub car park. After the pub I headed off to Kirkby Stephen.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 31 March, 2013, 10:59:06 am
Hmm, there's COR? :-\
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 31 March, 2013, 11:01:25 am
Only if you need to go back to Darlington after the pub.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: L CC on 31 March, 2013, 11:31:27 am
The COR is almost entirely downhill, and although terrifying, recedes rapidly in the memory, fading in the blur of excellent-ness that is this ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 31 March, 2013, 11:36:06 am
In your experience, what time do you arrive at Tan ill?

We have a group ride planned for the following morning at 7am, starting from toytown - there may be a scheduling clash unless I cycle faster.

You won't be able to do both. The earliest they start serving breakfast (officially) is 8.30 am, and the first riders were there at about 9.45. Though that was starting from York.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 31 March, 2013, 11:56:39 am
The COR is almost entirely downhill, and although terrifying, recedes rapidly in the memory, fading in the blur of excellent-ness that is this ride.

It's fabulous. It was resurfaced a couple of years ago, which did away with the huge potholes.




It's the shortest, and by far the easiest, route back to Darlington.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0hur4t4WR4)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 April, 2013, 09:52:50 pm
The people have spoken - the start will be Northallerton.

I'll update the OP. Let me know if you're planning to attend, wavering, or defintely can't come.

I'll have to think about a route - I'm assuming everyone is happy with no more than 60 miles, at least one sheltered overnight stop with coffee and toilets and stuff, and some hills in the second half (can't really do much about the latter).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 April, 2013, 10:03:15 pm
OP updated.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: L CC on 03 April, 2013, 09:11:48 am
Definitely me, maybe some other people from round here.
Y'can add boab minor to the 'ahh, g'wan. G'wan, g'wan, g'wan' list.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 08 April, 2013, 12:53:28 pm
I'm in for this too please.  I have a mental image of it being a lovely summer ride to look forward to.  Shh.

Depending on fitness and weather, I might head south through the dales after a nap on the Saturday too.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 08 April, 2013, 01:17:57 pm
It'll be good to see you again, Tom.

Kim can tell you how good a ride it is on a bent..
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 08 April, 2013, 01:47:15 pm
Oh yes, absolutely splendid.  The ride up from York was a bit of a slog last year, on account of all the flat, but you literally sail up the hills, and the ride back to Darlo isn't scary at all...   ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 08 April, 2013, 01:50:25 pm
Hadn't decided yet - I'm mostly on the upright at the moment, but could get up to speed on either if I decide early enough.  Since I'll miss out on the COR towards Darlington I was contemplating chancing my luck on a byway from Wensleydale into Wharfedale, which would favour the upright for me.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 12 April, 2013, 05:12:45 pm
If I don't go and commit - I'm never going to do this ride... so ok - count me in please. I did the first ride in 2011, cryed off on last year's because it clashed with family events (son's wedding if I remember) and haven't been out on a bike since.

Things could be a bit tricky cos:

1) I have already committed to get "Henry"to Corbridge Show on Sunday . If I don't get him there it will be more than my life's worth (Henry, by the way is my aged MGB who hasn't been on the road for 4 years). Henry has a reputation of throwing a wobbler and breaking down the day before a show so I'm probably going to be up all Saturday night as well as Friday trying to persuade him he really wants to run on more than 2 and a half cylinders...

2) I haven't ridden more than 10 miles or so on a bike for the past don't know how long so I could be a little slow. Opportunities for getting out much before for a practice ride appear to be distinctly limited.

3) I'm not totally convinced that Deano's posted route via Kettlewell, Hawes and Keld is the flattest of routes. That looks suspiciously like the Buttertubs road to me... I'm surprised he hasn't managed to throw in a diversion up and the Stang in as well, just for good measure. On second thoughts, if the wimps on the TdF are p[lanning to ride the Buttertubs in 2014, I'm sure I'll manage.

I'll see you there, if it's ok (and hopefully I might just manage a Thursday night ride from Northallerton before then as my training run).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 12 April, 2013, 05:24:26 pm
 :D :D :D :D

Where's the Happy Dance smiley?

Hurrah!!!!

"Slow"coach is coming out to play!!!

 :D :D :D :D

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 12 April, 2013, 05:30:49 pm
:D :D :D :D

Where's the Happy Dance smiley?

Hurrah!!!!

"Slow"coach is coming out to play!!!

 :D :D :D :D

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

+1million!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 12 April, 2013, 05:59:13 pm
:D :D :D :D

Where's the Happy Dance smiley?

Hurrah!!!!

"Slow"coach is coming out to play!!!

 :D :D :D :D

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

+1million!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

No returns

 :P

This ride's higher up my priority list now.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 14 April, 2013, 09:14:45 pm
Fabulous! Get some miles in, lad, and I'll see you in Northallerton.

I only suggested that route to tease phanta, btw. I'd be left in three different ditches if I took everyone down Park Rash in the dark.

The two possibilites are something like this (i.e. a loop somewhere, such as over the lovely crossing of the Tees at Girsby, back to Scotch Corner for coffees, then the simple route to Tan Hill through Richmond and Reeth):

http://goo.gl/maps/VUEnq

...or this, which is a quick run up to the 24-hour McDonalds near Newton Aycliffe for coffee and optional burgers, then out into the lanes, a sensible crossing of the A66, and some rough lanes, then over the Stang (hopefully it'll be light by the time we hit the summit) to Arkengarthdale and the last few hills to the finish:

http://goo.gl/maps/Jv4Rc

It just depends on what people want in way of hills. The second route is hillier but delightful, and I'd find it more satisfying, as the first route is too much like doubling back, whereas on the second route we actually go somewhere.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 15 April, 2013, 03:26:24 am
Would we be doing Girsby in the dark? It's one of my very favourite roads but I do like to be able to see it.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 April, 2013, 08:37:58 am
I was looking at ticket prices yesterday. Cheap tickets don't yet seem to have been issued for 6th July.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 15 April, 2013, 12:09:37 pm
From what time will people be in the pub?  There's a cheap train which gets me in at twenty to midnight, but after my experience yesterday (over an hour late home from Glasgow) I am wavering towards an earlier only cheapish train which gets me in about nine.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 15 April, 2013, 12:12:03 pm
And what time do you think we will be in Darlington.  I can't remember from the last time, although I do seem to remember sitting outside a pub drinking, so I must have had time to spare back then.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 15 April, 2013, 12:12:26 pm
Jane, I live just around the corner from the pub, if you go for the 21:00 arrive, drop me a PM and I'll send you the details, you can come around here for coffee/cake etc before the outset.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 15 April, 2013, 12:30:53 pm
And what time do you think we will be in Darlington.  I can't remember from the last time, although I do seem to remember sitting outside a pub drinking, so I must have had time to spare back then.

Good question - I think Kim had a four o'clock train booked two years ago, which meant a relaxed ride back. The earliest train was Doosh's, which was 14.45, and a real rush to catch.

Somewhere around there. Hopefully we'll be earlier at the pub this time..
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 15 April, 2013, 12:31:34 pm
Would we be doing Girsby in the dark? It's one of my very favourite roads but I do like to be able to see it.

If we go that way, and it's light when we're crossing Girsby Bridge, then we'll be even more late than we were two years ago.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 15 April, 2013, 12:38:09 pm
And what time do you think we will be in Darlington.  I can't remember from the last time, although I do seem to remember sitting outside a pub drinking, so I must have had time to spare back then.

Good question - I think Kim had a four o'clock train booked two years ago, which meant a relaxed ride back. The earliest train was Doosh's, which was 14.45, and a real rush to catch.

Somewhere around there. Hopefully we'll be earlier at the pub this time..
Oh yes, I remember the rush back to Darlington for Doosh's train.  That was fun.  And obviously left me with time to kill in the pub, too, which was also fun.  So maybe a 4pm ish train then- although as Wow already said, the cheap tickets are not available yet.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 April, 2013, 12:53:07 pm
Ah. That means I won't bee booking a lace on the 13 something, even though it's £15.60. Everything else is over £100 at the moment, it seems.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 15 April, 2013, 12:55:00 pm
Is that from Darlo, wow? I would say that is too early, if so.

However, if it's Kirkby Stephen, that would probably be OK.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: billplumtree on 15 April, 2013, 01:00:10 pm
Are you suggesting that you have to pay 7x more to escape from Kirkby Stephen than you do from Darlo?!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 April, 2013, 01:11:10 pm
That's from Darlo on the Grand Central website. East Coast is showing £57 or so at the moment. That is an allegedly discounted fare, which looks ominous.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 15 April, 2013, 01:15:25 pm
Hmm. It might be worth considering riding back to Northallerton, then. It's a longer and tougher ride from Tan Hill to Northallerton than Tan Hill to Darlo, but Grand Central services stop there, which may give you another option on trains to London.

Tan Hill to Northallerton is about 37 miles, and we may be able to sweet talk tiermat into leading a select group back there, if we all look sad at him.  :( :'( :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 15 April, 2013, 01:24:39 pm
I'd give it a couple of hours, Wow and jane: it looks as though the later trains are the standard walk-up fares, so the cheap tickets aren't available for them yet.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 15 April, 2013, 04:05:25 pm
I can't remember from the last time, although I do seem to remember sitting outside a pub drinking, so I must have had time to spare back then.

Yes and, IIRC, you got the drinks in so next time it's my round.

Now, I need to decide whether to do this ride and find an alternative audax to the Knockerdown or just do the Knockerdown as I'd originally planned.
I know what I'd enjoy more........

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 15 April, 2013, 06:42:35 pm
Surely, it's no contest.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 15 April, 2013, 08:10:46 pm
As Wow states above getting there no problem, getting back a tad more difficult......(spendy)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 April, 2013, 10:42:08 pm
Those £57.50 tickets are described as "super off-peak singles", i.e. they are not train-specific. The implication is that the advance tickets will be along in due course.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 16 April, 2013, 09:19:14 pm
Surely, it's no contest.

Will there be litter bin spotting opportunities ?
If so, I'm in.

I've found a possible audax for July, "Roun' t' West Riding"; it starts quite near to home, it's new cycling territory for me and it's only* 3.5AAA.
Train tickets to Northallerton/from Darlington are £12 each.
I'll see if I can recruit some others.


* :o
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 16 April, 2013, 09:22:42 pm
Was there ever any doubt? ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 16 April, 2013, 09:33:44 pm
Actually there was: RRTY is dictating my social life  ::-)


Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 16 April, 2013, 09:38:13 pm
Ride over and ECE it...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 16 April, 2013, 10:24:04 pm
It's a thought, but not one for me.
I shall mostly be using the train.

Arrive NTR 21.38, depart DAR 15.48 sound OK ?

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 16 April, 2013, 10:36:43 pm
Marvellous.

By the way, does anyone have any thoughts on what sort of route they'd prefer? The route from Scotch Corner to Tan Hill worked just fine last time, and I can concoct a lovely laney route from Northallerton to Scotch Corner, but there is the possibility of adding more hills, if there's demand.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 18 April, 2013, 09:35:55 pm
There's good news and good news for those heading back to Darlo after the pub.

Good news, most of the road from Bowes to Sleightholme has been resurfaced, and is a lovely ribbon of fresh tarmac:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8240/8661673532_45338b57bc_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/8661673532/)

Second good news: the track from Sleightholme to the Tan Hill road hasn't been resurfaced. We'd be fighting with cars if it had. The track has deteriorated in parts since the dressing a couple of years ago, but the holes aren;t as deep as they used to be. And the sharks are back:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8245/8660575215_daca6a43b0_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/8660575215/)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8266/8660575727_80914c3a55_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/8660575727/)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8264/8661695078_71e1d7c87f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/8661695078/)

(the last photo may not be in situ)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 18 April, 2013, 11:26:13 pm
And the sharks are back:



I thought that the crocodiles had eaten the sharks.

Update:- Helen's out but there are others considering this. If Dave L comes along I'll try to make sure he doesn't head off in random directions.

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 18 April, 2013, 11:33:20 pm
Second good news: the track from Sleightholme to the Tan Hill road hasn't been resurfaced.

That doesn't sound like good news.

I do like the look of that nice tarmacy bit, though.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 21 April, 2013, 08:59:19 pm
There'd be actual traffic on it if it was properly surfaced. It's phabulous, Phanta. Wild and windy and miles away from the modern world.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 April, 2013, 09:18:37 pm
It seems that Darlington to London fares are now available from £27ish.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 22 April, 2013, 06:05:47 am
I'm booked now!  16.26 going home- 19.30 going up which means I will be in NTR at about 9.  So I may well take up your kind offer, tiermat.
I'm already getting excited about this ride.  Although, I am expecting rain, wind, sleet and possibly snow.  I have just had two weeks of almost unbroken sunshine on Arran, Islay and Cowal (albeit with sub zero temperatures and a biting easterly). That must have used up my sunshine and blue skies quota for the year.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 22 April, 2013, 09:25:07 am
Not sure if this is already in the thread, but:  I don't need to book ahead for a train York -> Northallerton, do I?  Is it safe to just turn up?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 22 April, 2013, 09:32:17 am
I never do... But if the train you're planning to get is an East Coast you do need a bike space reserved.  TPE and Grand Central you just turn up, there's a theoretical 3 bike limit on the TPE but I've seen 5 in the official bike space and 3 in the first class/second class/accessible space up at the first class end a few times and we managed to get I think 5 bikes on a races train back from 'boro once.  Or you could just ride it - the flat route through Flawith and Tollerton is just over 30 miles :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 22 April, 2013, 09:45:18 am
Ok.  Is there not likely to be a crowd of folks with bikes on whatever train it is before midnight?  Or are people going up earlier?

I might ride it, yes.  It'd be less faffy.  Not sure I have the time though, and I don't want to tire myself out on the flat boring bit.  :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 April, 2013, 11:39:08 am
I have booked too. I'm on the cutting-it-fine express which arrives in Northallerton at 23.38, and returning on the 16.26 from Darlington.

I'll sort out a contingency plan in the event of a delay.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 22 April, 2013, 11:45:32 am
I have booked too. I'm on the cutting-it-fine express which arrives in Northallerton at 23.38, and returning on the 16.26 from Darlington.

I'll sort out a contingency plan in the event of a delay.

Excellent :thumbsup:

Hopefully it won't be necessary, but the likely route* will be Northallerton - bimble around a bit - Scotch Corner - Tan Hill, so you could roll up to meet us at Scotch Corner (about 13 miles from Northallerton by the direct route) in the event of train delays. Someone would probably be happy to wait.

And this way, you'll get to ride down Sleightholme Moor, Wow!

*More details on route to follow, when I've made up my mind.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 22 April, 2013, 11:46:09 am
I'm booked now!  16.26 going home- 19.30 going up which means I will be in NTR at about 9.  So I may well take up your kind offer, tiermat.
I'm already getting excited about this ride.  Although, I am expecting rain, wind, sleet and possibly snow.  I have just had two weeks of almost unbroken sunshine on Arran, Islay and Cowal (albeit with sub zero temperatures and a biting easterly). That must have used up my sunshine and blue skies quota for the year.

I think I used up all the wind when I rode up there last Thursday.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 22 April, 2013, 11:48:12 am
Ok.  Is there not likely to be a crowd of folks with bikes on whatever train it is before midnight?  Or are people going up earlier?

I might ride it, yes.  It'd be less faffy.  Not sure I have the time though, and I don't want to tire myself out on the flat boring bit.  :P

As CL says: get a bike reservation if you want to be certain, but the TPE experience is pretty relaxed.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 22 April, 2013, 12:22:38 pm
Right, I've booked a space on the 17.05 out of Darlo (it was the cheapest). Haven't booked a train up yet - might ride up, or get the last TPE.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 22 April, 2013, 01:46:53 pm


Arrive NTR 21.38, depart DAR 15.48 sound OK ?

Tickets booked for Dave L and me  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Polar Bear on 22 April, 2013, 01:52:47 pm
Train tickets direct from here to Northallerton are prohibitively expensive without looking at the return costs.   We will have to look at various options...   :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 22 April, 2013, 01:58:25 pm
I've booked some moderately expensive trains, on the basis that this ride is worth it.  Arriving NTR at 23:38 (changing at York), leaving DAR 17:05.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 22 April, 2013, 02:14:37 pm
Train tickets direct from here to Northallerton are prohibitively expensive without looking at the return costs.   We will have to look at various options...   :(

PB, looking at the East Coast website, these are the cheapest prices available, with sensible ticket-splitting (other ticket splits are probably available):

Birmingham New Street - Derby = from £5.50 to £7.00
Derby - Sheffield = £8.00
Sheffield to York = £9.00

Plus £7.20 for the standard walk-up fare from York to Northallerton.

Only you can say whether that's too expensive, especially as there'll be two of you (I hope).

Singles from Darlo to Birmingham on the Saturday afternoon are about £26 - and presumably you could get those cheaper with a few strategic ticket splits.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Polar Bear on 22 April, 2013, 02:24:40 pm
Don't worry Deano - I've not given up yet.   I was just hoping for a reasonable option to book now rather than me having to find time to mess around with options later.

Coming from Rugby we'll be changing at Tamworth and probably Leicester to York.   I haven't looked at the return from Darlo yet.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 22 April, 2013, 02:25:45 pm
Birmingham New Street - Derby = from £5.50 to £7.00
Derby - Sheffield = £8.00
Sheffield to York = £9.00

Plus £7.20 for the standard walk-up fare from York to Northallerton.

That split doesn't gain you anything.  I Just paid 27.50 for a direct ticket.


Quote
Singles from Darlo to Birmingham on the Saturday afternoon are about £26 - and presumably you could get those cheaper with a few strategic ticket splits.

I doubt it.  The only way to save money between York and Birmingham that I've found is to pick sufficiently unpopular trains, at which point 16.50 is achievable.  Ticket splits look like you're winning, until you add them up and discover the cheapness is just a function of picking the right train.  The Birmingham-Derby leg (and similarly, Birmingham-Leicester and the like) is particularly expensive, for what it is.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: ton on 14 May, 2013, 10:09:19 am
just seen this ride and i am interested in maybe doing it.

is there a rough idea of a route to look at, and a rough idea of distance......or is it ok to make a route up to suit personal fitness/ability?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 14 May, 2013, 10:15:43 am
just seen this ride and i am interested in maybe doing it.

is there a rough idea of a route to look at, and a rough idea of distance......or is it ok to make a route up to suit personal fitness/ability?

You'd be welcome along, of course.

It's about 60 miles to the pub. Depending on your plans afterwards, it's either an easy 14 miles to Kirkby Stephen to catch a train, or an even easier 30 miles to catch a train from Darlington.

Route still broadly undecided (a lot of the roads haven't been open for much more than a month..). It won't be brutal, but we start at a low elevation and climb to the highest pub in Britain (528 metres ASL), so there will be some climbing.

It'll be a group ride, so we'll all ride together, or at least in bunches.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 14 May, 2013, 10:23:26 am

....such as over the lovely crossing of the Tees at Girsby, back to Scotch Corner for coffees, then the simple route to Tan Hill through Richmond and Reeth):

http://goo.gl/maps/VUEnq

....


From an earlier post, something like this is the likeliest route.

Feedback welcome, of course - that's not the flattest it could be, but it adds a few points of interest, gives us a decent stop at the halfway point, and (inbetween Northallerton and Scotch Corner) fails to go up any of the massive hills in the area.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: ton on 14 May, 2013, 10:41:43 am
wpould love to do it......i have a health issue, which means i can only spin out at 10/12 mph, and climb slower.
i might come and meet everyone for a drink at the start, and then make my own way to tan hill.
i have a route that joins the one in the link at reeth. it is 40 mile up to tan hill and i think i can manage that, and the ride to kirby stephen or back to northallerton in the morning.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 May, 2013, 10:49:49 am
The climb from Reeth to Tan Hill is wonderful. Only two short steepish sections but the rest is uphill and sustained.

Are you able to walk and push your bike?  You might need to do this up the steep bits (unless you are running a trike with absurdly low gears).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 May, 2013, 10:53:30 am
wpould love to do it......i have a health issue, which means i can only spin out at 10/12 mph, and climb slower.
i might come and meet everyone for a drink at the start, and then make my own way to tan hill.
i have a route that joins the one in the link at reeth. it is 40 mile up to tan hill and i think i can manage that, and the ride to kirby stephen or back to northallerton in the morning.

I doubt that I'll be any quicker than that. Last year my overall average for the ride was about 9 mph and that was faster than I expected.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 14 May, 2013, 01:10:56 pm
Two years ago I was much slower than that, as a knee injury flared up halfway through the ride.  Still made it to the top, if slightly stoned on painkillers.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 May, 2013, 09:01:25 pm
Can any one help me with some info re Kirkby Stephen? I recall two years ago when I returned to London from Kirkby Stephen via Leeds that the road from KS to the station was nasty, steep and busy. I recall seeing other folks using a footpath which looked as though it was dual use, and the aerial view from Googlemaps gives the impression that it's eminently rideable. Streetview, on the other hand, fails to confirm this. Anyone ever used it?

This isn't for me as I've already bought my tickets form Darlington, but that Canardly bloke who seems to be out-trainfuing me on this ride.  :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 30 May, 2013, 09:10:55 pm
I used a shared use path last year.  Not as direct as the road but much nicer.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 May, 2013, 09:13:06 pm
So it is there and I'm not imagining it. Streetview doesn't seem to know about it. I wonder how old the photos are?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 30 May, 2013, 09:16:48 pm
The ride to the station at Kirby Stephen isn't that bad is it? I've ridden it a few times now and it was pretty normal urban riding really  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: L CC on 30 May, 2013, 09:44:23 pm
I'm out of this ride. I have to be in East Angular for the weekend.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 May, 2013, 09:49:29 pm
The ride to the station at Kirby Stephen isn't that bad is it? I've ridden it a few times now and it was pretty normal urban riding really  :-\ :-\

Maybe my memory is playing tricks, but it is of a steep, bury road with fast, close overtakes all the way. It looked as though there was a viable, quiet alternative and I'm into that kind of thing these days.

Looking at the thread from two years ago, sadly lots of people's photos seem to have become lost in address changes. It's a pity because bits of the thread no longer make any sense.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 31 May, 2013, 12:30:18 am
It is steep (15%) and quite busy, but I didn't feel too threatened on that road last year.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 04 June, 2013, 10:22:17 pm
Just a month to go now - I'll start organising breakfasts in a couple of weeks. I'm actually heading west this weekend, but I think I'll avoid the A66 corridor until the Appleby horse fair's over and done with.

Anyone else? Quiet roads, good company and a pub finish. Plus hills - a perfect bike ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 04 June, 2013, 10:35:37 pm
I've pretty much settled on this as the route:

http://goo.gl/maps/LPwyo

It's a run along very pleasant lanes, apart from the bit through Hurworth, with a couple of crossings of the Tees thrown in. There are slightly hills just after Appleton Wiske, climbing away from the Tees at Girsby Bridge and Croft, and at Five Hills Lane into Middleton Tyas, but nothing gratuitous. There follows the climb up to Scotch Corner, and then we're in the Dales. But we'll have a good sit-down at Scotch Corner, and might even be in good time for breakfast this year.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 June, 2013, 11:05:44 pm
52 miles? What are we going to do all night?! :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 04 June, 2013, 11:06:26 pm
Pooh sticks?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 June, 2013, 11:08:47 pm
Pooh sticks?

Poohsticks-on-Tees! Excellent idea!

A thought: where we come close to the Tees - is it fit for swimming?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 04 June, 2013, 11:16:25 pm
You might disturb the otters.

It's a lot cleaner than it used to be (especially since Fishburn Coke Works closed), but I wouldn't fancy it. Even if I could swim.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 04 June, 2013, 11:20:27 pm
It would be fine to swim in. I've been submersed in the Tees any number of times and lived to tell the tale.  You need to be careful of the sinkholes though.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 June, 2013, 11:22:11 pm
Will we be near any suitable bits? And would we have time/our ride leader's approval?

Edit: mind you, it looks as though we will be there around 2am or not long after. I'm not sure that river swimming in the dark is a great plan. Perhaps that's just the southern wuss in my coming out.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 04 June, 2013, 11:27:35 pm
Given how close you live to the Thames estuary, I reckon swimming in rivers is one domain in which the concept of 'southern wuss' does not apply.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 04 June, 2013, 11:31:26 pm
I was quite surprised when Wow didn't go for a dip at the weekend !
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 June, 2013, 08:06:19 am
Were you not aware of how cold it was? It was also 1st June and the water would not have been anywhere near warm enough, especially since all those north-easterlys in February and March must have taken the North Sea's temperature down to about 2 deg C!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 June, 2013, 08:11:27 am
Will we be near any suitable bits? And would we have time/our ride leader's approval?

Edit: mind you, it looks as though we will be there around 2am or not long after. I'm not sure that river swimming in the dark is a great plan. Perhaps that's just the southern wuss in my coming out.

Croft would be the best place. We'll see if we have time - though I'm not sure I want to encourage that sort of thing...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Polar Bear on 05 June, 2013, 11:25:44 pm
Hmmm:  We're probably Orkney bound and might be on our way back roughly coinciding with this.   I wonder if the logistics will work?

Any suggestions for a touring luggage drop would be helpful please.   :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 05 June, 2013, 11:36:41 pm
Tickets booked,  I should get into Northallerton at 23:38 so will not be able to drink beer  :(

Return train booked from Kirby Stephen at 14:32.

If you are booking a ticket to Northallerton I found it cheaper to split the journey Liverpool-York, York-Northallerton.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 06 June, 2013, 07:34:02 am
Hmmm:  We're probably Orkney bound and might be on our way back roughly coinciding with this.   I wonder if the logistics will work?

Any suggestions for a touring luggage drop would be helpful please.   :)

PB, you can leave your stuff here in Darlo - it's a fiver on the train to Northallerton, or about 18 miles through the lanes.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Polar Bear on 11 June, 2013, 10:31:21 pm
Bah, humbug!!  Unfortunately I just cannot make the ferries and trains play the game so we're unfortunately not going to make it.   :(   :(   :(

We will console ourselves with anothe assault on the lantern rouge on the Wiggy 100 in October.

Enjoy the ride folks.   
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 June, 2013, 10:21:04 am
I'm determined to make this one. Planning on riding up to THoFC (assuming that is the initial gathering place).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Polar Bear on 12 June, 2013, 08:02:36 pm
When I say Wiggy, I mean Gerry's Autumn Brevet of course.   I have my Lantern Rouge to defend and hopefully another great ride to Northlallerton or similar for a social ride...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: lantern rouge on 12 June, 2013, 10:00:57 pm
Deano, if you are still accepting starters I'm up for this ride.

I've only just seen the post.

We could meet up for a pre ride pint if you like. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 14 June, 2013, 11:20:37 am
I should now be up for this (subject to approval from SWMBO), as my work are having a garden party that day.  I am invited, but a) it is in Cambridge, so I wouldn't be able to have a drink anyway as I would still need to drive home and b) I wouldn't get paid for it anyway if I attended.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 14 June, 2013, 08:36:44 pm
Oh yes, absolutely splendid.  The ride up from York was a bit of a slog last year, on account of all the flat, but you literally sail up the hills, and the ride back to Darlo isn't scary at all...   ;D

I've only just got round to scanning the thread from the first year of this ride, so this sailed right over my head.
Hmmm, what are trusty internet friends for, eh?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 14 June, 2013, 09:05:46 pm
Bah, humbug!!  Unfortunately I just cannot make the ferries and trains play the game so we're unfortunately not going to make it.   :(   :(   :(

We will console ourselves with anothe assault on the lantern rouge on the Wiggy 100 in October.

Enjoy the ride folks.

Sorry you can't make it, PB. But Orkney's nearly as good.

 
Deano, if you are still accepting starters I'm up for this ride.

I've only just seen the post.

We could meet up for a pre ride pint if you like. :thumbsup:

As ever, all welcome. Hopefully you won't have to lead a chain gang back to Darlo this time for trains (though that sounded like fun).

I should now be up for this (subject to approval from SWMBO), as my work are having a garden party that day.  I am invited, but a) it is in Cambridge, so I wouldn't be able to have a drink anyway as I would still need to drive home and b) I wouldn't get paid for it anyway if I attended.

Hurrah! It would be perfectly reasonable for you to drop out, but I very selfishly would like to see you there. And not just for the coffee..
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 14 June, 2013, 09:07:49 pm
Oh yes, absolutely splendid.  The ride up from York was a bit of a slog last year, on account of all the flat, but you literally sail up the hills, and the ride back to Darlo isn't scary at all...   ;D

I've only just got round to scanning the thread from the first year of this ride, so this sailed right over my head.
Hmmm, what are trusty internet friends for, eh?

You're still coming though. (It's not all that tough!*)

*given the alternatives
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 14 June, 2013, 09:12:46 pm
Tickets booked as far as Newcastle for this, so I'm properly committed now. Just need to decide whether to leave 5 mins or 50 mins for a connection at Newcastle Central.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 14 June, 2013, 09:18:43 pm
You're still coming though. (It's not all that tough!*)

*given the alternatives
Oh yus. I just need to remember to read with more cynicism.  ;D  I thought she was a nice girl.  ::-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 14 June, 2013, 09:25:18 pm
It was a tough ride for Kim. Being shouted at by the staff (well, one member of staff, who needs to be ignored or told to FO) for being late probably didn't help.

But it's 25 miles shorter this year. We can get a chain gang up the hills. Maybe.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 14 June, 2013, 09:55:57 pm
It was a tough ride for Kim. Being shouted at by the staff (well, one member of staff, who needs to be ignored or told to FO) for being late probably didn't help.

I didn't really pay much attention to that at the time.  Maybe I assumed she was beign sarcastic?  I was more preoccupied with knee pain, tbh.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: lantern rouge on 15 June, 2013, 07:01:15 pm
Tickets booked as far as Newcastle for this, so I'm properly committed now. Just need to decide whether to leave 5 mins or 50 mins for a connection at Newcastle Central.

Leave yourself 50 minutes so you can enjoy a drink in the superb Centurian bar on the station. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 24 June, 2013, 11:42:26 am
For those who are arriving @ NTR a bit earlier, there will be a pre-ride-meet-up-meet-up @ THoFC.

PM me for details, I will be in all day (I have nothing else planned for that day) and may even have baked a cake (if I can be bothered).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 24 June, 2013, 11:58:45 am
Right booked the train to NTR now. Get in about 22:40 :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 June, 2013, 01:41:28 pm
OP updated with runners and riders. Let me know if this is wrong.

Looks like a canny group, if not quite as overwhelming as two years ago.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 24 June, 2013, 01:45:33 pm
Smaller than the first year, but larger than last year, I reckon it'll still be as fun though.

As a bonus, as I won't be leading it we won't get lost!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 24 June, 2013, 01:49:42 pm
I've never lost a rider yet!

Mind you, I shan't be complacent - we are passing the lair of the Sockburn Wyrm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockburn_Worm), after all ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyUncle on 24 June, 2013, 02:11:44 pm
I'm in for this and I think CrinklyAuntie is probably not.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 09:58:53 am
Breakfast booked for 15 at Tan Hill (two vegetarian)  :thumbsup:

There's a bit of latitude about numbers, to allow for last-minute drop-outs or additions. Hopefully the latter.

One thing - the residents' breakfast is between 8.30 and 9.30, so they've asked us to get there after 9.30.

So, shall we a) lengthen the route a bit?

Or b) Drink extra coffee at Scotch Corner?

c) Go nightswimming with Wow?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 10:09:22 am
N.B. this is the route I have been thinking of:

http://goo.gl/maps/JrKYw

I could try to wind it up to 60 miles, then we could relax at Scotch Corner until about 5.30 am. We'll probably have to ride as more of a group, too, or the first arrivals will have nothing to do except drink at the bar...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 June, 2013, 10:43:42 am
Sticking together sounds good to me. We got in a bit of bother in 2011 by splitting up when people had punctures.

Having seen the repair speed from teamwork on a Simon ride, I think that's the way to work.

Deano, you've missed poohsticks from your list of activities.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 10:58:15 am
I'll work on a series of points where we'll re-group. Reeth is an obvious one, there are a few others at junctions and wotnot.

By the way, breakfast at Tan Hill is still £5 a head - the same as two years ago :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 11:00:33 am
Hmm, Yarm's a possible longer route. Things'll have have quietened down by two or three am, won't they? :-\
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 25 June, 2013, 11:13:29 am
Or extend the 2nd half down to Tunstall and then west rather than going through Richmond?  Little bit of backtracking from scotch corner.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 11:33:35 am
Possible. My only objection is that I kinda want to preserve the original route from Scotch Corner to Tan Hill, as it's simple, lovely, and met with near-universal approval two years ago.

I'm still pondering, though - if we went up to Yarm, Tall Trees would probably be kicking out while we were passing, and we don't want to get involved in that, and though the road from Yarm to Middleton One Row is lovely, Middleton St George isn't very special, and I really don't want to take people down the descent from Dinsdale to Neasham in the dark, given the state of the road (someone came off there in a group a few years ago, and that was in daylight, and the road's only deteriorated since then). I don't think Yarm would work.

Is this the sort of thing you were thinking of, Tom?

http://goo.gl/maps/7y4xv

It's a bit more complicated, which is my main concern, and we do go through C*tterick, and it doesn't save any hills, or add any (we would go up Crusty Bank from the other way). You get to see a bit of Wensleydale from the top of the tank ranges before cutting back to Reeth.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 25 June, 2013, 11:40:31 am
Yes, that's what I was thinking.  My assumption was that the climbing needed to stay pretty similar and the climb from Reeth was inviolable.

Failing that I was attempting to draw a CDC in the lanes between Northallerton and scotch corner, but hadn't produced anything I was really pleased with yet.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 25 June, 2013, 06:23:52 pm
Hmm, Yarm's a possible longer route. Things'll have have quietened down by two or three am, won't they? :-\

On a Friday night? Not necessarily.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 25 June, 2013, 07:41:21 pm
Breakfast booked for 15 at Tan Hill (two vegetarian)  :thumbsup:

Can I have a veggie breakfast too, please?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 07:42:22 pm
Breakfast booked for 15 at Tan Hill (two vegetarian)  :thumbsup:

Can I have a veggie breakfast too, please?

I've already booked it ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 25 June, 2013, 08:13:48 pm
Super, thanks!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Chris S on 25 June, 2013, 08:20:46 pm
I really wish we were doing this ride again.

But - when we did it, the conditions were perfect. Could we beat that?

Also - we have other priorities this year which are important to us. I hope you all have as good a time as we did, last time.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 08:58:45 pm
Yes, that's what I was thinking.  My assumption was that the climbing needed to stay pretty similar and the climb from Reeth was inviolable.

Failing that I was attempting to draw a CDC in the lanes between Northallerton and scotch corner, but hadn't produced anything I was really pleased with yet.

Now there's a challenge ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 09:04:56 pm
I really wish we were doing this ride again.

But - when we did it, the conditions were perfect. Could we beat that?

Also - we have other priorities this year which are important to us. I hope you all have as good a time as we did, last time.

It can't be as good as that ride.

It'll be different. But the company will be excellent and the Dales are still the Dales, regardless of the weather. We're due a huge rainstorm, or snow, or gales, or possibly all of them.

Where's SlowCoach with his doom-laden weather predictions? I'm sure that's what swung it for us two years ago.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 25 June, 2013, 09:41:07 pm
I'm looking a bit flaky for this atm.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 25 June, 2013, 09:49:11 pm
I'm looking a bit flaky for this atm.

Ah go on. It's just a little ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 25 June, 2013, 10:45:34 pm
...to the pub.  And then it's downhill nearly all the way to Darlo!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 26 June, 2013, 12:43:43 am
I'm looking a bit flaky for this atm.

That's okay, so am I.

As is my bike.

This is going to be one of those "Rare chance to see Kim's arse" events.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyUncle on 26 June, 2013, 01:59:09 pm
I have orange cardboard and a bike reservation on the East Coast train that arrives in Northallerton at 23:38.

My current thinking is to ride back to York after breakfast.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 26 June, 2013, 08:25:33 pm
I might well try and get that there train Uncle. Moving towards Kirkby Steven for a return but not sure about timings etc. Would really like to make this.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 26 June, 2013, 08:30:11 pm
Excellent.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 27 June, 2013, 12:20:09 pm
As mentioned up-thread Dave L and I are getting into NTR at 21.38 and leaving DAR at 15.48.
I guess that leaves us plenty of time for a beer in Northallerton before the off.
Apologies if I've missed it but is there a designated meeting place ?

With luck we'll also have time to get a drink in Darlo before our train home. Hopefully Deano will be able to advise on the best place to sit in the sun and enjoy fine ales.
I haven't forgotten that I owe you a drink Jane  :)

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 27 June, 2013, 12:25:22 pm
As mentioned up-thread Dave L and I are getting into NTR at 21.38 and leaving DAR at 15.48.
I guess that leaves us plenty of time for a beer in Northallerton before the off.
Apologies if I've missed it but is there a designated meeting place ?

With luck we'll also have time to get a drink in Darlo before our train home. Hopefully Deano will be able to advise on the best place to sit in the sun and enjoy fine ales.
I haven't forgotten that I owe you a drink Jane  :)

For those arriving before 22:30, the meeting point is THoFC (PM me for address, I shall drop you a PM shortly, Andrew), after that the meeting point is The Golden Lion, Romanby, DL7 8HA (NOT the Golden Lion in NTR!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 27 June, 2013, 03:15:37 pm
As mentioned up-thread Dave L and I are getting into NTR at 21.38 and leaving DAR at 15.48.
I guess that leaves us plenty of time for a beer in Northallerton before the off.
Apologies if I've missed it but is there a designated meeting place ?

With luck we'll also have time to get a drink in Darlo before our train home. Hopefully Deano will be able to advise on the best place to sit in the sun and enjoy fine ales.
I haven't forgotten that I owe you a drink Jane  :)

You passed a few fine pubs on the run into Darlo two years ago  :P

Hopefully the bridge at Manfield will have been repaired by then (currently it's a two-mile detour across the fields from Lucy Cross). If not, we'll plough back along the A67, through Merrybent.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 27 June, 2013, 04:52:51 pm

You passed a few fine pubs on the run into Darlo two years ago  :P



We were on a mission to get Doosh to the station  ;)

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 27 June, 2013, 07:53:47 pm
How long to get to Kirkby Steven station at, human being that has been up all night, pace?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 27 June, 2013, 11:36:39 pm
It's 14 miles, some undulating, some fast downhill, and a bit of a climb to Kirby Stephen station, which is outside the village.

Last year Rower40 & myself were in the pub for 10,  I think we left shortly after 11 and I posted from Kirby Stephen at 12:39.  I had the 14:32 train booked so was able to snooze & get some lunch before catching that.  I've booked the same return train this year.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 28 June, 2013, 08:40:05 pm
Booked. I have gone for the Kirkby Stephen option coming back, its more faffage, slower and longer with two changes, but less mileage to station and Andrew can show me the ropes and I guess there will be doze opportunities,  also much cheaper at £14.20. and importantly I have bike reservations. Seems several of us will be on same train outwards to NA. (surprised I got a space) Can now relax and look forward to this. Now then East Coast northwards, where do the bikes go?

The last night ride we did was damn cold. Any advice as to kit?

Ps must get Dyno hub for road bike thinks. Must talk to Loadsabikes about a 'special' build.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 28 June, 2013, 09:39:36 pm
I've spent today being  a) fatigued and unproductive  and more importantly  b) not riding a bike.

Optimism levels decreasing...   :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 28 June, 2013, 09:58:06 pm
I've spent today being  a) fatigued and unproductive  and more importantly  b) not riding a bike.

Optimism levels decreasing...   :(

The weather has been crap & you've been working all week.  You'll get over it  :thumbsup:

(I hope.. )
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 29 June, 2013, 08:04:55 pm
Excellent stuff, Canardly.

Kim - I hope you feel well enough to come along. It wouldn't be the same without you :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 29 June, 2013, 08:11:57 pm
In other news, I checked the start of the route today, and apart from the lanes being a bit manky in places, and the wonderful new surface on the lane between Deighton and Appleton Wiske having been ruined with surface dressing, all was well. It's a simple enough route, without many turnings, and we can hope that the scarecrow festival in Appleton Wiske has been taken down by next week. The wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz display was a terrifying figure, and some of the scarecrows were disturbingly realistic, though not as disturbing as some of the weirdly-scarecrow-ish residents.

Good lights will be a requirement. As in the rest of the country, the lanes aren't in the best condition, and there are a few grumbly stretches, some gravelly bits, and some rather large potholes, but as long as we don't go mad on the descents none of us will end up in the Tees.

I'll check the rest tomorrow, then I'll make routes available to those who are interested. I am, as ever, happy for you all just to turn up and follow.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 29 June, 2013, 08:25:19 pm
I hope things perk up for you Kim. I cant think of an event I have been to where you have not been present.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 29 June, 2013, 08:36:11 pm
For those arriving before 22:30, the meeting point is THoFC (PM me for address, I shall drop you a PM shortly, Andrew), after that the meeting point is The Golden Lion, Romanby, DL7 8HA (NOT the Golden Lion in NTR!)

Thanks for making that clear, tiermat - I hadn't realised there was another Golden Lion. I've updated the OP, and I'll repeat the instructions here:

Quote
N.B. this is the Golden Lion at DL7 8HA and not the Golden Lion in Northallerton itself. To find it is very simple - leave the station to the west (through the car park on the same level as the platform), exit the car park, turn left, cross the level crossing, and you're there. Like this (http://goo.gl/maps/yvxlY). We'll be in the beer garden at the back.

The other Golden Lion looks shite, from the outside. But even if it's wonderful, we won't be there!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 30 June, 2013, 05:56:40 pm
Can I have a late signing for this one please?
Can you recommend a B&B in Northallerton for Mrs Miggins for Friday night (she is currently not fit enough to ride)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 June, 2013, 05:58:21 pm
I can recommend one in York.

Very reasonable rates ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 30 June, 2013, 06:39:27 pm
Loadsa, yhpm.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 30 June, 2013, 08:10:00 pm
Can I have a late signing for this one please?
Can you recommend a B&B in Northallerton for Mrs Miggins for Friday night (she is currently not fit enough to ride)

Hurrah!

I can't recommend anywhere myself, but woolly and peli stayed here for a ride a few years ago:

http://www.woollypigs.com/2011/02/a-review-of-elmscott-bed-and-breakfast-northallerton-dl7-8qx/
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 30 June, 2013, 08:29:35 pm
Cheers Deano,
Joyce has booked travelodge in Darlo and will chuck myself and Canardly out on her way up and we can meet up again on Saturday.
Crinkles, thanks for your kind suggestion.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 30 June, 2013, 08:33:13 pm
She could've stayed here with me!!!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 30 June, 2013, 08:43:31 pm
Mrs Miggins now jumping around swearing a lot!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 30 June, 2013, 08:44:48 pm
She still can if she wants?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 30 June, 2013, 08:56:15 pm
Are you not riding LG?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 30 June, 2013, 09:00:14 pm
Probably not. I have to  work a 12 hour shift on the Sunday. My first day back off the sick since I saw you Marcus, andII really don't want to cock up that day.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 June, 2013, 09:03:19 pm
Mrs Miggins now jumping around swearing a lot!

Has she stubbed her toe?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 30 June, 2013, 09:07:50 pm
Probably not. I have to  work a 12 hour shift on the Sunday. My first day back off the sick since I saw you Marcus, and I really don't want to cock up that day.

That's a shame, though that is definitely a real life issue that is more important.

Then again I'm not 100% now as I really got hit hard by hay fever yesterday* and I'm still feeling it now. I really want to ride I'm not sure I want another Redcar-esque incident.



*That put pain to my 600 and has left me contemplating the wisdom of attempting LEL
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 30 June, 2013, 09:09:36 pm
She could've stayed here with me!!!

Mrs Miggins. You and me. The Claggy Mat in Yarm. We  can go out and cheer you lad on as he rides past, then go back inside for Grab a Granny. What do you say?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 30 June, 2013, 09:10:42 pm
We're definitely not going through Yarm ;D

(Decision unrelated to the above post...honest!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 30 June, 2013, 09:11:37 pm
Spoilsport  :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 30 June, 2013, 09:19:19 pm
Come and wave us past one of the many fine hostelries in Neasham or Hurworth, if you like.

The Bay Horse gets the Michelin stars, but the Willy Emerson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Emerson_(mathematician)) has the most relaxed opening hours, at least by reputation.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 01 July, 2013, 01:32:13 pm
Does anyone have any nice route suggestions from York-Northallerton?

I was vaguely planning to go via Shipton, Tollerton, Topcliffe and up the A167, as that seems fairly easy to navigate. Not sure about the A-road bit, but I think I've ridden up it at a similar time of night last time I went on a pub run up there and it seemed fine.

Would be interested in any other suggestions though!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 July, 2013, 01:35:31 pm
That's pretty much the route I'll follow. Online mapping says that 55km, so I was going to set off at 9:30.

Deano, is the route finalized? Need to load it onto my GPS (although I'll prob bring a paper map as well).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 01 July, 2013, 01:39:26 pm
That's the route we took two years ago, pretty much.

Except that you should take the left in South Otterington, then straight over the crossroads at the A684 into Romanby.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 01 July, 2013, 01:46:17 pm
That's the route we took two years ago, pretty much.

Except that you should take the left in South Otterington, then straight over the crossroads at the A684 into Romanby.

I think you mean R @ X?

Straight over will take you down towards SHARK LANE (DUM DUM DUUUUUUUM)

After about 21:00 or so the A167 is quiet, the bit around Allenbrooke Barracks especially so (it's a nightmare earlier in the evening, especially on a Friday with everyone wanting to get home)

So straight down A167, SO @ RB, L after Co-op, R @ mini-RB, SO @ mini-RB and pub on right (parking and beer garden around the back, turn R just after the pub)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 01 July, 2013, 02:54:44 pm
Phantas, we are driving up on Friday evening and will have room to pick you and bike up enroute if you would like.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 01 July, 2013, 03:04:08 pm
Loadsa, if you are passing and have time to spare, I am in all day Friday (apart from MAYBE going to have my hair cut! :o ), feel free to drop in for coffee.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 01 July, 2013, 04:37:39 pm
Thanks Phil, I think it's gonna be a late evening arrival as Canardly is working and won't get to me untill 18.30
What time will you set off for the RV?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 01 July, 2013, 05:09:21 pm
What time will you set off for the RV?

Northallerton is not the largest of metropolis's. The Golden Lion (Romanby one - not the High Street), the railway station and chez Tiermat must be all of a minute from each other. A group the size of ours on bikes at that time on a Friday night is undoubtedly going to excite the local populace. If you can't find us for any reason - just knock on the door of any house displaying a "Neighbourhood Watch" sticker. The jungle drums will have been working overtime and I'm sure they'll be able to tell you exactly where to go.

What in the post above makes you think that I may have spent a good deal of my misspent youth searching (unsuccessfully, I should add) for the fabled flesh pots of fair Northallerton town...  ::-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 01 July, 2013, 05:51:53 pm
That's the route we took two years ago, pretty much.

Except that you should take the left in South Otterington, then straight over the crossroads at the A684 into Romanby.

I think you mean R @ X?

Straight over will take you down towards SHARK LANE (DUM DUM DUUUUUUUM)


Or towards Darlo, which is what I was thinking of.

Yes, right at the A684, then left into Romanby. If you want to avoid the A167.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 01 July, 2013, 06:37:11 pm
Hmm, change of plan. It looks as though I'll have to bring the hybrid (on account of it having a functional rear wheel), so I'll get the train up instead.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 01 July, 2013, 08:26:54 pm
What's wrong with your fixed bike?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 01 July, 2013, 08:33:51 pm
Doesn't have enough gears.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 01 July, 2013, 09:23:21 pm
But you could be the first person* to do this ride on fixed!

*who isn't Chris S
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 July, 2013, 08:34:51 am
I thought BillPlumTree rode it on fixed in 2011?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 02 July, 2013, 08:55:55 am
Thanks Phil, I think it's gonna be a late evening arrival as Canardly is working and won't get to me untill 18.30
What time will you set off for the RV?

We will be leaving THoFC at about 22:27 to get to the pub for 22:30.

Oh and "Slow"coach is right, just head for Romanby and ask anyone (might even work in the town centre) and they will send you in the right direction.  Of course, the last time SC did this he had the good fortune of stopping at my FiL's house to ask!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 July, 2013, 06:20:33 pm
That's pretty much the route I'll follow. Online mapping says that 55km, so I was going to set off at 9:30.

Deano, is the route finalized? Need to load it onto my GPS (although I'll prob bring a paper map as well).

I'm on it. I have some fettling to do first.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 July, 2013, 06:42:26 pm
By the way, I wouldn't normally look at weather forecasts this far out, but I happened to see one on the news, and what can I say except  :o :thumbsup: ;D :D 8) 8)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 July, 2013, 06:53:48 pm
And we have some special mystery guests joining us at the pubbe.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 July, 2013, 08:47:47 pm
I've updated the OP with the route, and I copy it here for reference:

Quote
THE ROUTE

This is the route from Romanby/Northallerton to Scotch Corner:

http://goo.gl/maps/UyefI

N.B. the route through Northallerton is merely sketched in, and at Scotch Corner we will make a decision on whether to take the simple, direct route to Tan Hill, or whether to essay the longer route, so here we have two routes.

The longer route:

http://goo.gl/maps/PY2T8

The direct route (as backup in case we're pushing for time, or it's blowing a hoolie):

http://goo.gl/maps/AAxYQ
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 July, 2013, 09:04:55 pm
I thought BillPlumTree rode it on fixed in 2011?

Did he? I totally missed that.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 July, 2013, 09:07:16 pm
I thought BillPlumTree rode it on fixed in 2011?

Did he? I totally missed that.

andrewc's photo from 2011 suggests not. I can see a derailleur.


(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5152/5897312222_a076d79091_z.jpg)

Phew! I'm not going mad.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 02 July, 2013, 09:31:43 pm
Looks as though I'll have wheels after all. That's always a good start. I just need to rebuild the bike on Friday...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 July, 2013, 09:33:27 pm
You could accept loadsabikes' offer of a lift.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 02 July, 2013, 09:48:52 pm
I thought BillPlumTree rode it on fixed in 2011?

Did he? I totally missed that.

Nah.  He brought the lovely V that time.  Who, iirc, keeps getting threatened with fixed.... but I don't think she's been done yet.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 02 July, 2013, 09:54:12 pm
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5152/5897312222_a076d79091_z.jpg)

Dammit.

*really* want to do this ride...   :-\
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 July, 2013, 10:33:50 pm
Suddenly I am doubtful for this. Mrs. Wow's mother has been taken to hospital this evening, suffering from a stroke. Mrs. Wow and her sister were with her at the time, in Stalybridge. Mrs. Wow's mother is almost 84 and had a stroke in 1979.

I shall make a decision, with Jan, about driving up there tomorrow.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 July, 2013, 10:38:03 pm
Sorry to hear that Peter.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 02 July, 2013, 10:39:37 pm
I'm sorry to hear that - all the best to Mrs Wow and family.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 July, 2013, 09:02:00 am
I am still hoping to do this ride.

Under normal circumstances I would probably drive up to be with Jan, but I have committed to helping our daughter move house on Friday and our son sell his Hammond organ on Sunday (ebay purchase, organ is in our front room, flight case in garage, house front door needs to be removed to get the bloody thing out). Both tasks would be immeasurably more difficult if I went up north for the duration, so I'll stay put I think. Besides, there are three adult sisters and the husband of one of them, as well as some very supportive neighbours so it's not as though I would be a lot of help.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 03 July, 2013, 09:26:58 am
By the way, I wouldn't normally look at weather forecasts this far out, but I happened to see one on the news, and what can I say except  :o :thumbsup: ;D :D 8) 8)

I have just had a look, no need for 3/4s or long sleeve shirts, then!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 July, 2013, 10:24:06 am
Indeed. I'm packing the factor 40.

Will still put in a long sleeve top for the night-time bits.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 03 July, 2013, 10:30:32 am
Someone should bring rainlegs though, just in case.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 03 July, 2013, 11:48:57 am
Dave L has some so I'll ask him to pack them.
Having said that, I think they're the denim look-a-likes* so perhaps not.


*In a somewhat vague interpretation of "look-a-like".
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 01:32:36 pm
I just called the pub to confirm the numbers for breakfast. It's £5 a head.

If you do have any special dietary requirements that you want them to take into account, let me know ASAP.

I currently have two vegetarians (Phanta and Jane) plus one vegetarian meeting us at the pub, and one wheat-free (Mrcharly). Everyone else will be getting the standard fry up.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 03 July, 2013, 05:02:57 pm
Hmm - there's definitely something wrong. The weather forecast looks to good to be true. I don't even have to do my usual trick of searching for an alternative "Richmond" in some other part of the globe if I don't like the look of what the BBC is saying. Richmond, Virginia seems to be the best place at the moment for that. Their night time temperature is very close to the forecast daytime temperature for Richmond, Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 03 July, 2013, 05:43:08 pm
Hmm - there's definitely something wrong. The weather forecast looks to good to be true.

It's a bit worrying, isn't it...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 03 July, 2013, 07:04:10 pm
Okay, in the interests of SCIENCE I've just done my regular 42km loop (some 400m of climbing) in a darkside style for the first time in ages.  Heartrate was some 15bpm higher than usual.  Got a perfectly respectable rolling average of 19.6kph.  None of the pain or arm fatigue I was getting from the upwrong, obviously, and while my legs feel like they've been working hard, right now I do actually feel like I could do the same again without too much difficulty.

The real question is whether I collapse with exhaustion in an hour or two.

And whether I trust a knackered suspension fork more than I trust my arms.

 :-\
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 03 July, 2013, 07:12:49 pm
The fork will be fine, there is nothing in it to cause catastrophic failure.............and the weather looks good.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Chris S on 03 July, 2013, 07:22:38 pm
Looking at the weather forecast, I really really wish we were going. Could it be a repeat of the unrepeatable year?

Oh fboab? Do we really have to ride an audax on Saturday? Hmmm?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 July, 2013, 07:24:48 pm
DIY home again?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 03 July, 2013, 07:27:15 pm
The fork will be fine, there is nothing in it to cause catastrophic failure.............and the weather looks good.

Indeed.  I rate the fork much higher than I rate my arms at present.  And general lack of fitness can be countered by unashamed use of my legendary granny ring.

It's the sleep deprivation that could end badly.

OTOH, If I'm not there armed with rainlegs, who knows what might happen?


Looking at the weather forecast, I really really wish we were going. Could it be a repeat of the unrepeatable year?

Oh fboab? Do we really have to ride an audax on Saturday? Hmmm?

Can't you do one of those DIY thingies?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Chris S on 03 July, 2013, 08:17:18 pm
It's a non-travel weekend :(.

I'm sure we could work something out on another weekend, but fboab needs to be in the vicinity of BSE.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 08:19:06 pm
Yes, keep your weather down in Suffolk!

;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 03 July, 2013, 08:26:33 pm
It's a non-travel weekend :(.

I'm sure we could work something out on another weekend, but fboab needs to be in the vicinity of BSE.

Can't you like, bring a small cow along on a trailer or something?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 08:32:45 pm
Is anyone fetching cake, by the way? I suspect we might be a little under-catered.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 08:53:15 pm
Apologies if I've missed it, but of the attendees, these are the ones I have who are catching a train from Darlington after the ride:

jane
Andrew Br
Dave L
Wowbagger
Kim

...and of those, the earliest train is 15.48. We'll aim for a departure from Tan Hill no later than 12 noon. Of course, anyone else is free to join us, and I encourage you to do so, for the glorious offroading down Sleightholme Moor, and the endless* freewheel along the A67 from Bowes to Startforth.

Anyone else? Any earlier trains which I've missed? And does anyone else have any timetable issues after the ride?

*at least, it's endless all the way to the end. Remember to pedal occasionally, and to change down a few gears before Startforth.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 03 July, 2013, 09:00:20 pm
Anyone else?

Me. But my train's not until after 5 - I think I'm on the same one as Kim.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 July, 2013, 09:01:19 pm
I'll *probably* come part way and peel off down Hang Bank.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 09:02:50 pm
Anyone else?

Me. But my train's not until after 5 - I think I'm on the same one as Kim.

Ta. For some reason I thought you were riding back to York.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 03 July, 2013, 09:25:14 pm
I think that Loadsabikes and I will be joining you on the Darlington run now in order to meet up with Mrs Miggins.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 09:29:28 pm
Everyone's welcome, of course, but my main concern is those who have non-flexible train tickets.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 03 July, 2013, 09:31:38 pm
Mrs Miggins will be joining us at Tan Hill for breakfast.
She has also made a ca**
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 09:36:53 pm
Mrs Miggins will be joining us at Tan Hill for breakfast.
She has also made a ca**

Marvellous. We might want the cake on the ride!

And here's an incentive for the hills: I've booked 20 breakfasts, and I reckon there'll be 22 of us ;D

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 10:22:45 pm
Anyone else? We only need a few more to have an even bigger group than it was in 2011. All welcome, of course.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 03 July, 2013, 10:55:26 pm
I'm heading for Darlington after Tan Hill too.  Currently I'm not sure if I'm riding from there back to Durham, training from there back to Durham,  or riding back to Northallerton to collect the car.

I'm not going to be in Northallerton until 11:30 is on Friday night. I'm going to the theatre before, probably in my YACF top... and intending to escape in the interval and either head straight for the train or drive down.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 10:57:17 pm
OP updated with routes in Bikeroutetoaster, which can be uploaded to your devices, for those who do that sort of thing. If you're happy just to turn up and pedal, ignore all of this. Thanks to mrcharly for transferring the routes to BRT.

Quote
THE ROUTE

This is the route from Romanby/Northallerton to Scotch Corner:

http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=572514

N.B. the route through Northallerton is merely sketched in, and at Scotch Corner we will make a decision on whether to take the simple, direct route to Tan Hill, or whether to essay the longer route, so here we have two routes.

The longer route:

http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=572520

The direct route (as backup in case we're pushing for time, or it's blowing a hoolie):

http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=572523
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 03 July, 2013, 10:59:46 pm
I'm heading for Darlington after Tan Hill too.  Currently I'm not sure if I'm riding from there back to Durham, training from there back to Durham,  or riding back to Northallerton to collect the car.

I'm not going to be in Northallerton until 11:30 is on Friday night. I'm going to the theatre before, probably in my YACF top... and intending to escape in the interval and either head straight for the train or drive down.

If it's the Gala Theatre, you'll probably be alright. Are you seeing A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Durham?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 04 July, 2013, 02:17:02 pm
If it's the Gala Theatre, you'll probably be alright. Are you seeing A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Durham?
You've got it right first time. I'm booking on the 22:59 which gets in at 23:47, but if I can get away in time I'll catch the 22:10 (Transpennine Express so there won't be any problems getting the bike on). That would get me in to the Golden Lion before 11:00.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 04 July, 2013, 02:22:24 pm
If it's the Gala Theatre, you'll probably be alright. Are you seeing A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Durham?
You've got it right first time. I'm booking on the 22:59 which gets in at 23:47, but if I can get away in time I'll catch the 22:10 (Transpennine Express so there won't be any problems getting the bike on). That would get me in to the Golden Lion before 11:00.

If you get the earlier train I think that's the same one as I am on (21:49 from Newcastle ISTR) :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 04 July, 2013, 06:27:45 pm
Mrs Miggins will be joining us at Tan Hill for breakfast.
She has also made a ca**

Marvellous. We might want the cake on the ride!

And here's an incentive for the hills: I've booked 20 breakfasts, and I reckon there'll be 22 of us ;D

(click to show/hide)

I shall pass said ca*e to the machine room for slicing and will indeed bring it on the ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 05 July, 2013, 12:56:18 am
Sorry, can't do it.  Broken body.  Fed up.  Bed.   :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 July, 2013, 06:22:05 am
 :(
Rest. Have barakta hugs. The road will be there another time
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 05 July, 2013, 06:59:42 am
Oh, Kim.  Sad.  Get better soon.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 05 July, 2013, 08:23:18 am
GWS Kim
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 05 July, 2013, 08:36:45 am
Oh noes :-(   You'll be missed.
Hope you are feeling better soon. Rest, cake & cuddles.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Peter on 05 July, 2013, 10:41:36 am
It looks like a great night for it, everyone.  Have a lovely time.  i'm going to be riding and helping out on a short audax, which unfortunately clashes but I'd love to do Tan Hill again one year.

All the best

Uncle Peter
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 05 July, 2013, 12:32:44 pm
Bike sorted, lights charged,  CA*E machined, weather looks great. Looking forward to a classic!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 05 July, 2013, 12:48:05 pm
Bah!

(Body in absolutely no state for this sort of abuse.  I've overdone it again, and if I could stop sneezing for more than 5 minutes, I'd still be asleep.)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: billplumtree on 05 July, 2013, 01:08:12 pm
I thought BillPlumTree rode it on fixed in 2011?
andrewc's photo from 2011 suggests not. I can see a derailleur.

Just seen this!  Guilty as charged, yer honour  :-[  In my defence, I did ride from Kendal to the start at NTR, and back to Kendal afterwards...

Quote
Phew! I'm not going mad.

This doesn't necessarily follow though  :P   I hope you all have a thoroughly fantastic time this time round
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 01:36:42 pm
But you are aware that we started from York before?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 01:37:26 pm
Bah!

(Body in absolutely no state for this sort of abuse.  I've overdone it again, and if I could stop sneezing for more than 5 minutes, I'd still be asleep.)

Sorry to hear that, Kim.

(but does it mean we have to do it again in 2014?!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 05 July, 2013, 01:39:39 pm
Bah!

(Body in absolutely no state for this sort of abuse.  I've overdone it again, and if I could stop sneezing for more than 5 minutes, I'd still be asleep.)

And Nikki promised that she wouldn't break you.......... stay away from the fun Factory
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 05 July, 2013, 01:45:26 pm
(but does it mean we have to do it again in 2014?!)

It looks like a repeat in 2014 is going to be a must. In 2011 the weather was most un-Tan Hill like (i.e. it wasn't blowing a gale). I don't know what last year was like, but it looks as if this year might be good weather too. I'm not going to upset the weather gods though by leaving the rain gear at home and bringing sun tan lotion instead... (I'm not that confident about the forecast).

One year we are going to have to do it when the rain (or snow) is horizontal into your face for the entire ride up from Reeth. Remember that Tan Hill is notorious for bad weather. If it ain't going to be this year - lets go for 2014.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 05 July, 2013, 01:58:58 pm
And Nikki promised that she wouldn't break you.......... stay away from the fun Factory

Deadlines are deadlines, unfortunately, and that one's just moved forward.

Anyway, it's not even remotely Nikki's fault.  It's the unfortunate combination of a rubbish body and an unchecked drug-happy anaesthetist.  Not to mention that sudden-onset brain fade / falling asleep at home or in West Brom is a different proposition entirely from doing so in the middle of the moors with a bike and advance train tickets to worry about.


Barakta and I are going to try for Critical Mass this evening, so as not to entirely waste the weather.

And there's always 2014.  I hope.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 03:24:30 pm
I'm sorry you won't be there, Kim. GWS!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 04:37:58 pm
Will someone please explain to me how to download the .gpx file of the routes on page 1 of this thread?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 05 July, 2013, 04:40:39 pm
Summary tab.
Download box.
Give it a name, and click on your preferred flavour file.

(it took me a bit of poking also)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 04:45:50 pm
Thanks. Found it.

I'll have to load the tracks into bikehike to reduce the no. of waypoints, but that's easy.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 05 July, 2013, 04:56:35 pm
Click on summary tab then the save as option is down the left hand side.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 04:58:43 pm
Cheers. Done now.

I love the Golden Lion's website, with its superfluous apostrophe's and the map bering the legend "Were are we?" :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 05:04:52 pm
My train Kings Cross at 9 p.m. I think Jane's is earlier so, looking at the list in the OP, I think I'll be the only nutter YACFer on it.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 05 July, 2013, 05:06:50 pm
I love the Golden Lion's website, with its superfluous apostrophe's and the map bering the legend "Were are we?" :thumbsup:

That's not the Golden Lion you're looking for. 
Refer back to post #1.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 05 July, 2013, 05:09:48 pm
Tom's right, thats the one in town, as far as I know the one in Romanby doesn't have a web site.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 05:14:13 pm
Thanks. Quite important to know that.

The Garmin knows where it is! I should be there before midnight.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 05 July, 2013, 05:23:17 pm
Can you bring bikes into the beer garden without dragging them through the bar?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 05 July, 2013, 05:26:44 pm
Can you bring bikes into the beer garden without dragging them through the bar?

Yes, no problem. The pub has two side roads near it. The one between it and the coop is the wrong on. Go up the other one and the pub car park and beer garden are on your right. Doug, the land lord, is expecting us (I did the QA on the beer at lunchtime  ;D )
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 05:26:53 pm
Yes you can, Jane - the beer garden backs onto the car park so there's loads of space.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 05 July, 2013, 05:38:11 pm
You've thought this through haven't you ?  ;D

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 05:41:29 pm
Will you still be at the pub when I arrive?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 05:57:20 pm
Will you still be at the pub when I arrive?

I expect so. It's the departure point, and we won't leave without you.

What time are you due into Northallerton?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 05 July, 2013, 06:09:04 pm
We will be on our way very soon, we will call in for coffee if we may Phil :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 06:10:58 pm
You've thought this through haven't you ?  ;D

Absolutely ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 06:14:46 pm
Will you still be at the pub when I arrive?

I expect so. It's the departure point, and we won't leave without you.

What time are you due into Northallerton?

23.38.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 05 July, 2013, 06:39:01 pm
We will be on our way very soon, we will call in for coffee if we may Phil :thumbsup:

Of course, you are always welcome.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 06:43:31 pm
Will you still be at the pub when I arrive?

I expect so. It's the departure point, and we won't leave without you.

What time are you due into Northallerton?

23.38.

Sound. Send me a SMS if it'll be delayed - or if you want a pint getting.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 05 July, 2013, 06:45:50 pm
The beer choice, by the way, is Copper Dragon IPA or Golden Pippin
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 July, 2013, 07:05:09 pm
Great. I'll text you after I've left York. I'll try Copper Dragon please (if in time). Never had any, heard about it lots.

I'll be off for my first train in 5 minutes. I have:-

an extra top pus waterproof for the Wee Small Hours etc.
Marmite sandwiches (in case I meed a ravenous Jane)
geobars
a few tools
spare tubes
hat
gloves
camera
rail tickets
book

I'm due out of KGX at 9 o'clock.

PS I have Mrs. Wow's phone, so no internet. :-\
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 07:08:11 pm
They're both Copper Dragon ;D

I'll be mainly drinking the Golden Pippin.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 July, 2013, 07:54:36 pm
House full of computers, can I find a cable that fits my garmin?  Can I heck.

Didn't load the route from York to Northallerton. OMG, I might have to use a map.


Cable found, in the rats nest in teenager's bedroom
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 05 July, 2013, 08:01:43 pm
House full of computers, can I find a cable that fits my garmin?  Can I heck.

Didn't load the route from York to Northallerton. OMG, I might have to use a map.

Ride to station, get on train, get off (and this is the key bit) at Northallerton!

Hth.

Seriously the route is so straightforward a map is not needed. Go out to Shipton, follow the road to Helperby, turn leftvat the Oak Tree pub, keep going straight until you hit a T, turn R, turn L at The Angel, SO at RB, SO at RB, R at miniRB, so at miniRB, pub on right.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 08:07:54 pm
Or signs to Helperby, signs to Topcliffe, signs to Northallerton.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Chris S on 05 July, 2013, 08:16:07 pm
Have a great ride you lot!

Spare a thought for us getting cooked on the flatlands, as you finish up in the cool of the morning.

Looking forward to seeing lots of great pics.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 05 July, 2013, 08:34:52 pm
On the train to York. Think I'm on the same connection to Northallerton as Wowbagger.
I'm tired and have a mildly unhappy tum. I'll try to get some sleep on the train.

Don't think I've tried the Copper Dragon IPA.....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jogler on 05 July, 2013, 08:39:23 pm
 With the weather being so good,90 mins ago I toyed with the notion of throwing bike et al in the car & driving up to Northallerton at the necessary warp speed as a very last minute addition:but thowing approx £70 in petrol at a bike ride is a luxury too far in these straitened times :(

I too hope you a have a splendiferous ride & look forward to seeing the pics..
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 05 July, 2013, 08:45:15 pm
Next year, jogler. Snow, howling headwinds, rain and fog guaranteed.

Quick fag and coffee then I'll be heading south. SMS/call me if you're lost, caught up in the bacchanalia of Friday night in Northallerton or otherwise bewildered.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 05 July, 2013, 09:15:13 pm
Critical Mass was good (we had both a Raleigh Chopper and a DeLorean in attendance), though I'm suffering from epic hayfever now (which would probably be enough to make me think twice about the ride on its own).

Going to have some food and an early night (hopefully).

Looks like you'll cope without my rainlegs, have fun!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 05 July, 2013, 09:39:16 pm
Sat on a train at Newcastle waiting for it to set off. We don't move for 20 mins but the engines are on ???
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 05 July, 2013, 10:33:44 pm
Missed the early train by a cat's whisker. Now catching the train I'm booked on. Will be in about 23:50.

Would have caught it if I'd been allowed to go to the theatre in my cycling gear.  Changing in the loos after delayed me...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 06 July, 2013, 02:42:34 am
We're at Scotch Corner!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 06 July, 2013, 05:13:20 am
....and I am home.

Fantastic night, I wasn't on the first one, but if it was even half as good as this one then it was a belter!

Photos to follow, after a nap and swimmng lessons
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 06 July, 2013, 09:23:31 am
At the pub, waiting for breakfast. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 06 July, 2013, 11:57:39 am
*eagerly awaits jealously-inducing photos*
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 06 July, 2013, 03:46:38 pm
Well that was a stonker!
Perfect weather, quiet roads, good company and I think only one visitation.

Deano's amended route had us at Scotch Corner for 3 and the pub for 9:30.

A few people suffering with hay fever though.

Added bonus was the Crinkly Pride turning up at Tan Hill accompanied by LindaG.

Kudos to Jane for doing the ride after being rear ended & knocked off her bike on the way to the station in London.

Photos when I get home.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: loadsabikes on 06 July, 2013, 04:11:49 pm
What a great ride :thumbsup: Thanks Deano et al for a splendid event and Mrs Miggins for the cake ;) and driving.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 06 July, 2013, 04:42:46 pm
I'll second that, Loadsa, Thanks Mrs Miggins!

Still have the photos to upload, but have a domestic issue to deal with first.

Have just seen MrC in NTR, don't think he recognised me as I was en auto.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 July, 2013, 05:43:42 pm
I vaguely wondered  if 'tI would see you but was feeling ... Vague. Will post more incl photos l
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 06 July, 2013, 06:20:16 pm
Too pissed to say much now (my mate mate me in town after the ride and x pints on top of no sleep have sent me whooo). 

But thanks, everyone. It was a bloody good ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 July, 2013, 06:46:00 pm
Now at proper computer - but still trying to sort photos (and working on the getting pissed; on 2nd pint).

Random comments from a random brian . . ..

Deano, what a fantastic job of organisation. Timing was perfect all the way. Nobody left behind, checkers at awkward crossroads. You even arrange some 'podium girls' to come to the pub and greet us.

The weather was almost too much. I intended to ride back to York; but the headwind and heat defeated me. My knees are near chocolate brown from the sun (didn't put sunblock on them unlike face/neck/hands).

Poor Natalie received her introduction to semi-offroading; and didn't like it at all! Still, she made it to the bottom without incident. The lane is worse than previous years.

On the train back from North'ton I was buttonholed by the guard; he wanted to quiz me about my bike. Then he mentioned he'd seen a Planet X on the train the previous night that he also like. Aha, that would be Chocolate's bike!

Longest ride for me since the Easter arrow in 2012 - 222km by the time I got to northallerton train station.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 06 July, 2013, 07:01:01 pm
Phantasmagoriana has done much worse offroad than that.

I think Phanta's aversion to offroading is genuine ( there's even a Phanta Rating for Tarmac smoothness), unlike her aversion to hills and downhills, about which she is clearly in denial. On last night's ride Andrew Br and I lost sight of Phanta on the drop off the tank ranges, and I've lost count of the number of forumites she's dropped uphill.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 July, 2013, 07:11:25 pm
Photos,

Bikes at Scotch Corner. I think we outnumbered the cars

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mfILvr3bvqI/UdhcX5xndmI/AAAAAAAAA1Y/FlqV1DGhpTU/w332-h589-no/2013-07-06+02.57.38.jpg)

A bridge, just because:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IuKjfj96bCQ/UdhcZdgvdQI/AAAAAAAAA1o/p4CF9kBqT1s/w989-h558-no/2013-07-06+06.42.37.jpg)

The road from Reeth, looking back down:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JB5E4MIk_MQ/UdhccljBy6I/AAAAAAAAA1w/y4bhRx5t39w/w989-h558-no/2013-07-06+07.19.02.jpg)

Blue skies, smiling at me. Nothing but blue skies, from now on:
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Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 06 July, 2013, 10:02:03 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7410/9223423067_41d1d6b456_b.jpg)

The village green at Reeth.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/9226202840_f54515048f_b.jpg)

A pensive Canardly.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3786/9226203434_ea31a27f49_b.jpg)

Hiding from the bastard midges.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5479/9223427657_70f175dd1b_b.jpg)

Has Tom stood in something nasty...... ?

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2847/9226208540_6edec7d839_b.jpg)

Who is that masked man ?

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2821/9223430817_9c012f13ff_b.jpg)

Deano, tired after a hard night herding cats.

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 06 July, 2013, 10:09:38 pm
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3699/9223432337_a3ab4403b6_b.jpg)

It's all about the views..

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3727/9223434507_2e8b7e1600_b.jpg)

A host of golden.... buttercups.....

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7347/9223436253_c4ed3f1015_b.jpg)

Meditating on the beer to come.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5339/9226216302_acc72f2670_b.jpg)

Loadsabikes

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3680/9226217662_71f8f8c6f2_b.jpg)

And our next model is Wowbagger, sporting the very latest in Tilley Hat design.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2859/9223438427_2d4a8a7ffb_b.jpg)

AndrewBr

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 06 July, 2013, 10:15:22 pm
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5490/9223440489_c05e52c3aa_b.jpg)

Jane assists in this weeks First Aid demonstration, the Recovery Position.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3813/9223441255_8fb9246e4a_b.jpg)

Slowcoach.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3777/9223443947_460ae9b0f7_b.jpg)

Tail End mrcharly

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3751/9226222764_66584ed05d_b.jpg)

Oh look !   A pub! 

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: peliroja on 06 July, 2013, 11:52:41 pm
It looks wonderful. I'm really hoping circumstances and fitness will permit me and Woolly to join you on next year's!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 07 July, 2013, 12:23:10 am
There were midges?  Endless blood-sucking swarms of the fuckers no doubt. 

Well, that's all right then...   ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 07 July, 2013, 07:24:25 am
My photos are following. Can't seem to embed them though. Only 5, a combination of hay fever, delirium and lack of photographic skills.  I felt pretty awful until the sun came up.  Which luckily is pretty early at this time of year.  I am not really a night rider, I am pretty sure.  More of an early evening, quick nap, early morning rider.  from sunrise onwards, I was in heaven.  Thankfully the midge attack was not sustained.  Reeth is one of those delightful villages, people chose for its sheltered position in a wild land.  So it was full of the wee, evil monsters.  But, we climbed just a few feet, the breeze stirred and the tiny cowards fled.  Strange that such a puny creature can inspire such terror in humans.   
Thanks to everyone, lovely bunch of people who put up with my endless sneezing, sputtering, moaning. Special thanks to especially, Deano, for the organisation, Tiermat (is that right?) I only got the non forum name of the wonderful person who actually rode to his house and returned with a brand new wonderful wheel to replace the one borked in Blackfriars.  (Good indie movie title there).  A wheel, probably better, certainly cooler than mine, but to my eyes, rather lacking in spokes, having even less, fully complete, than mine did borked.  He assured me it would be fine, and it was.  Better than mine, coping with the wonderful offroad tumble off Sleightholme Moor admirably.  Thank you so much, that was YACf hospitality above an beyond.  I now don't want to give you your wheel back, though, it's much better than mine.
     Also thanks to Mrs Miggins and loadsabikes for their concern and kind offer of a sag wagon to Darlington.  It was lovely to feel so looked out for, and I was very, very tempted. (And Mrs M, lovely cake!)
    Lovely to meet folks at Tan Hill too, the Crinkly pride, who I haven't seen for ages, and Ruth, at last, whose forum name escapes me.  At last, to shake hands with someone I already felt quite friendly with! Next time, on a ride, please!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he5c83w7ndrrezx/Photo%2006-07-2013%2005%2042%2024.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h12zl068yqgn51e/Photo%2006-07-2013%2006%2036%2014.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rsagpbvfrzv1e5f/Photo%2006-07-2013%2008%2005%2000.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ibyyf5l4kow3mom/Photo%2006-07-2013%2006%2036%2029.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xvv4mwwi0wl8ac/Photo%2006-07-2013%2006%2036%2023.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h12zl068yqgn51e/Photo%2006-07-2013%2006%2036%2014.jpg

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 July, 2013, 07:49:52 am
It was _lovely_ to see so many people enjoying the sunshine at Tan Hill - and huge thanks to LindaG for joining in a SB(less)A to get there, and a cracking good time either side of it.

A last minute inspired-by-glorious-weather plan meant that Cubs had great fun pitching a tent
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1043971_10151654169081839_371733503_n.jpg)
of positively palatial proportions
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1043930_10151654169451839_382932969_n.jpg)

After the bulk of the group disappeared off towards Darlo, we were waved of by the Kirkby Stephen bound riders and then went waterfall chasing and park visiting and ice cream eating
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1011241_10151654170636839_1079712116_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1006156_10151654171586839_527896110_n.jpg)

So although Not Riding to Tan Hill wasn't quite the same as Actually Riding to Tan Hill, it was nonetheless a perfectly splendid Silly Bikeless Adventure and a real treat to catch up with so many people over a jolly fine breakfast!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 07 July, 2013, 08:10:34 am
Thanks everyone  especially Deano for organising the whole thing - that was a great ride. Perfect weather and the scenery was lovely. Apologies for holding up the whole group by getting a puncture quite early on (but thanks to mrcharly for taking over repair duties far more competently than I could have done, and mcshroom for holding up my bike!)

With the ride up from York, I did about 132 miles in total, which is my longest ride for a while. Was glad to get home and sleep!

My photos are here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/natnot/sets/72157634519258771).

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 07 July, 2013, 08:50:57 am
I take it back - bastards, the lot of you.


As for midges, they're something I take reasonably seriously.  Hives are merely itchy and unpleasant, but the inevitable scratching the skin (usually around my ankles) raw in my sleep can be a more serious problem, especially if it gets infected.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 07 July, 2013, 09:08:24 am
Great photos phantasmagoriana.  The Bins Have Eyes.  Another great indie film title.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 07 July, 2013, 09:11:25 am
They have eyes, but no mouth!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jogler on 07 July, 2013, 09:23:43 am
I take it back - bastards, the lot of you.


 ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 07 July, 2013, 09:27:13 am
Sorry Jane, that I didn't introduce myself.

It was, indeed me, that rode home and got you a wheel.

Glad that it meant you could enjoy such a fantastic ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: L CC on 07 July, 2013, 09:28:22 am
Last night, as we drove back from our audax for me to return to familial duties, Chris said "I'm glad we had a really good ride, I makes me feel less bad about missing Tan Hill". "yeah," I agreed.

I've changed my mind. I shouldn't have looked at this thread. I hate you all.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 07 July, 2013, 09:42:22 am
Sorry Jane, that I didn't introduce myself.

It was, indeed me, that rode home and got you a wheel.

Glad that it meant you could enjoy such a fantastic ride.
You did introduce yourself, or Deano introduced you.  It was me, at that point not really being in full mental working order that wasn't able to process information at that point.  Stressed and tired then.  But the ride cured all that.  So double thanks.  I shall have to think of some suitable acknowledgement of your kindness.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 07 July, 2013, 09:47:14 am
Last night, on arriving back in London, dirty sweaty and tired,  I turned down a ride to Leigh on Sea with some mates today. Woke up this morning feeling fine (nicked that line), rang them to say, great idea, where shall we meet.  Guess what? One of them has hay fever, so they are going on the train.  Diddums, I say.  Get on that bike and ride out the snot and streaming eyes. 
Oh, well.  I will just have to sit in the garden and drink cold Prosecco all day.  Life's so hard sometimes.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jane on 07 July, 2013, 10:00:25 am
I seem to have acquired an extra inner tube.  I have a vague memory of someone giving it to me early on in the evening.  I don't know why, I already had two. Outside the pub?  I don't remember who it was, I'm afraid and I think I just took it without offering any reimbursement, not even a pint.  I am not normally that rude, honest.  So, whoever you are, sorry, thankyou and how much do I owe you?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 July, 2013, 10:04:06 am
That was a wonderful ride. I got home last night around 9 p.m., drank beer, at curry, slumped in a chair, woke up around midnight, had a shower and then went to bed. I just wish I had slept longer. I will try to gather some thought together at some stage but for the moment, tea.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: jogler on 07 July, 2013, 10:17:24 am

As I prepare to go to work (the thick end of 10 hours entombed in a f8888king hoooooge frozen food warehouse @ minus 25 degrees C) on this gloriously sunny hot day I have decided that this

I take it back - bastards, the lot of you.

Crinkly Pride & LG excluded of course :-*

is the most pertinent comment on the thread.

jealously rooles OK
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: peliroja on 07 July, 2013, 10:28:51 am
jealously rooles OK
Here, too! It sounds like a magical ride. Next year!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Peter on 07 July, 2013, 10:34:45 am
Thanks, everyone.  When I did Tan Hill as a newcomer to the forum in 2011 it was one of the highlights of my cycling (and social) life.  I'm realy glad you all had the hoped-for great time.  I also had a lovely day out riding and helping on an Audax in the Peaks but it was a calendar change that made the dates clash.  I hope it doesn't happen again - the clash, I mean.

It just occurred to me to start an alphabetical list of Great Dales:-

Arkengarth, Barbon, Cover, Dent, E, Farn, Gars....

Suggestions?

Thanks again

Uncle Peter
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 07 July, 2013, 10:36:17 am
jealously rooles OK
Here, too! It sounds like a magical ride. Next year!

Hope so! I might actually a) make it to the start and b) then make it all the way to Tan Hill*

*one DNS due to Dave Grohl and two DNFs due to domestic issues.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: lantern rouge on 07 July, 2013, 10:36:49 am
Fanfekinbikeridinfriendmeetingbeerdrinkinfullmontyeatinsunbathingmigieswattinoffroadintastic.

Cheers for arranging another brilliant ride Deano. Thanks to everyone else for turning up and making it great.

I even got a free ride home on the train ;D

Off out to Stockton Cycling Festival now, where Shyumu is prostituting himself in the name of audax.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 07 July, 2013, 11:59:21 am
Sorry Jane, that I didn't introduce myself.

It was, indeed me, that rode home and got you a wheel.

Glad that it meant you could enjoy such a fantastic ride.
You did introduce yourself, or Deano introduced you.  It was me, at that point not really being in full mental working order that wasn't able to process information at that point.  Stressed and tired then.  But the ride cured all that.  So double thanks.  I shall have to think of some suitable acknowledgement of your kindness.

Don't worry about it, the fact you were able to take part in, and complete possibly the best ride of the year is recompense enough for me.

I shall put your original rear wheel in my car today and tame it down to my digs. Once we can organise practical things like swapping over parts I shall getit to wherever it needs to go.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Polar Bear on 07 July, 2013, 12:34:43 pm
Looks like you guys had a fabulous time and I'm really miffed that I couldn't get the logistics right and join the fun.    :(

Deano, if you're doing the ride again next year could you pleeeeeeeease pick a date early and whack it in the calendar so I can work logistics around my planned Shetland tour?    8)   :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 07 July, 2013, 01:23:18 pm
What an experience! Many thanks to lots of people including Deano, Mrs Miggins, Loadsabikes, Slow Coach, Mr Charly and everyone else, (just for being everyone else). A few low res phone pics. There is a group photo out there somewhere.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img208/6730/63qp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/63qp.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img17/5507/vkk9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/vkk9.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img703/1633/5ld5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/5ld5.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img268/9207/ag6j.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/ag6j.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img585/1094/p0le.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/p0le.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/5669/65ze.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/65ze.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img194/2404/9x3b.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/9x3b.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img841/5383/bhzx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/bhzx.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img259/5278/n7aa.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/n7aa.jpg/)



Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 02:04:32 pm
Your collection's incomplete, Canardly ;D

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5540/9231115590_aa11037684_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231115590/)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 July, 2013, 03:17:59 pm
After a relatively easy, if somewhat warm, day moving my daughter's belongings from a house in overheated Palmers Green to tropical Hackney Wick, we were home around 3 pm and I found the intervening 4 hours flew by as I prepared the bike and me for our little journey to see our friends in the north. I spent the long train journey reading a book about the Welsh and British Lions captain John Dawes.

Just after York I was joined by AndrewC and another YACFer who I found out later was Crinklyuncle (I think). This is a demonstration of my ridiculously bad memory for names and faces as a little over a year ago I was sitting at CL's table on the eve of the York Rally eating Chinese food in his company. Sorry.

We found the pub very quickly and a moment later Deano appeared bearing ale. A welcome sight indeed. It was Copper Dragon something-or-other and went down very quickly. I learned that it is brewed in Skipton. I know someone who is moving there very soon! I had a brief natter to Jane, with whom I had exchanged a few incomprehensible text messages earlier in the evening. She had caught a slightly earlier train and I was lumbered with Mrs. Wow's antiquated phone, whose predictive text had a mind of its own and it outwitted me at every stage. It turned out that poor Jane has been a hit-and-run victim whilst cycling to King's Cross and she had sore ribs from where she had landed, as well as a broken spoke. Tiermat had lent her a very shiny rear wheel.

Soon we were away and as usual I was at the back of the group. The weather was mild and I sported just shorts and one layer on top. Even when we stopped on a bridge over the Tees so that a puncture could be mended I didn't need any extra insulation. Instead I handed round some marmite sandwiches I had made. Not long after 3 we reached the Scotch Corner services where we had a fairly lengthy but welcome stop and by the time we emerge the sky was light and dawn was not far away.

At one point we had a brief stop in a village whose name I had not noticed. It had a large village green and I knew I had been there before on a ride. I was not sure when, and I was convinced that it was in the past 18 months or so, but I now know the village was Scorton and I think the ride must have been our very wet coast-to-coast. Or did we visit the village on the equivalent ride two years ago? So many places, so little brain capacity...

After Catterick we began climbing. Gently at first, but definitely we were on the up. We passed through Tunstall and I mentioned that I thought there was a Suffolk village of the same name. Indeed there is, between Snape and Woodbridge, and I rode through it earlier this year. We passed at least one military institution and numerous road signs warning us of their existence, but they were all in bed. There was a roadside stop at the junction of the A6108. By this time we were about 800 feet above sea level and in the valley behind us we could see the mist lying like pools of milk, a portent of the scorcher the day was to become.

At Reeth we had a gathering. There were more of us now as the specimens of homo sapiens had been joined by several hundred thousand little biting bastards. Use was made of the facilities and then off we went again. It was considerably earlier in the day than the last time I passed this way, so there was no-one to advise me on bicycle feng-shui. At one point I caught up with the remainder of the party and remarked that I thought there was another significant descent to a pub on our left before the final push on to Tan Hill. Deano corrected me and assured us all that there was nothing until we got to Tan Hill, apart from metal structure that looked like a railway carriage. I wonder where it was that I bought all that beer?

I set off before the others on the final assault but stopped to watch a small river flow under a bridge. It was not long before Jane and Loadsabikes overhauled me and then so did several other cyclists. I love the final approach to the pub as what may well be the toughest hill of all leads you to a brow and there it is, just below. There is a quick descent, for which I was joined by AndrewC, and then breakfast.

Part 2 to follow.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 07 July, 2013, 03:22:06 pm
While we are waiting for part 2, can I just thank Deano and everyone on the ride for another superb FNRttP :)

Beautiful countryside, beautiful weather. Nice breakfast and best of all, great company :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 July, 2013, 04:11:10 pm
There is nothing, or almost nothing, quite so much worth doing as sitting in the Tan Hill Inn on a glorious July morning drinking beer, so we did that for a while before it was time to depart. There was a group photo taken by someone on someone else's camera and then we hurtled down the hill towards the spiffing off-road bit across Sleightholme Moor.

I have never done a great deal of off-road, and that which I have has been mostly reasonably flat and easy (there was one exception last year in which Jane and I had to scrape most of Gloucestershire off our bicycles before we could ride them again) but this one, although bone-dry, was decidedly technical. My Thorn was probably pretty well ideally suited to the job save for the fact that it was fitted with road tyres, but I was really given a lesson in bike-handling by Jane who, on skinnies, just disappeared off down a treacherous, gravelly, rock-strewn scree slope which at times seemed to be like the north face of the Eiger. There was one absent friend whose company is normally a delight, but I was quite pleased that she wasn't there on this occasion. If she reads this she will know who she is (probably so will everyone else).

Eventually the road became a road again and we continued to make good progress. We joined a fast A road but in the 4 miles we were on it we dropped from about 1000 to 700 feet so it was fast for bicycles as well as cars. That took us to Barnard Castle where there was a brief stop in front of the Bowes house where someone sorted a stuck chain out and I had a look at my drive train to see if I could find out where the ticking was coming from. I found a loose chain ring bolt, tightened it, and the ticking stopped. Someone had a puncture and we rested under a healthy-looking beech tree whilst it was mended. We crossed a suspension bridge over the Tees, which reminded me very much of a similar one over the Tweed, near a honey farm, at a place whose name escapes me.

We approached Darlington and whilst in the suburbs I noticed a cyclist standing to my left. I though he didn't look like one of ours so I carried on, having failed to spot in my sleep-deprived stupor that everyone else had turned left with him. It turned out to be Andrewbr, but he looked much too smart to have been up all night. Finally we found Deano's favourite pub which appeared to serve beer, but I was by this time so overheated, dehydrated and low on blood sugar that I engulfed two pints of orange juice and lemonade. Then it was time for the train so Jane and I dozed our way back to King's Cross.

Thanks again, Deano, for the excellent ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Notsototalnewbie on 07 July, 2013, 04:57:21 pm
There was one absent friend whose company is normally a delight, but I was quite pleased that she wasn't there on this occasion. If she reads this she will know who she is (probably so will everyone else).


I have no idea who you might be talking about.

In all seriousness, that sounds like I would probably still be standing by the side of the 'road', sobbing...I'm sure you're not the only one who's glad I wasn't there!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 07 July, 2013, 04:59:44 pm
Just uploaded the ride onto strava (easiest way to get the numbers off my gps) and the last hill gets a Cat. 2 climb (I'm assuming their system is a little more relaxed than Le Tour's), which is the highest of the ascent. I think that sharp hill straight after the little bridge and right-hander was the steepest little section though.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 07 July, 2013, 05:10:37 pm
That's the one I walked most of. :D Though to be fair, Deano told me the pub was much further away than it actually was - if I'd known it was just over the hill I might have made an effort!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 July, 2013, 07:30:25 pm
The route.

http://www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?lnk=http://peter.chesspod.com/routes/tanhilltrack.gpx

By the time I got home, my total was just over 102 miles.

And some photos.

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18144-2/DSC09428.JPG)

Some YACFers at Scotch Corner

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18153-2/DSC09431.JPG)

North Yorks at Dawn

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18165-2/DSC09435.JPG)

OK, how do we string this thing out until 9 am?

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18168-2/DSC09436.JPG)

Jane, transfixed

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18183-2/DSC09441.JPG)

Poetry in motion

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18186-2/DSC09442.JPG

Loitering without a tent in sight

[img]http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18204-1/DSC09448.JPG)

Loadsabikes & Jane break away from the peloton

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18207-1/DSC09449.JPG)

Andrewbr

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18213-1/DSC09451.JPG)

Yet another ascent

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18216-1/DSC09452.JPG)

The Holy Grail

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18219-2/DSC09453.JPG)

I saw this and thought of NSTN

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/18222-2/DSC09454.JPG)

Somewhere in County Durham
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 07 July, 2013, 07:32:55 pm
As everyone else has said, it was a marvellous ride and many thanks to Deano for organising it, the Tiermat household for their hospitality at THoFC (where indeed, a fine coffee was offered and accepted) and to everyone else for their lovely company.
I'll (perhaps) write a little more later in the week and I'll provide a link to Dave L's photos when he puts them on-line.

Strava not here:- http://app.strava.com/activities/65216474

(Yes, I did go to Bar and yes, I did get 9th fastest on a slice where I didn't pedal very much).

ETA:-
I had to modify the Strava 'cos it included my train assisted journey home.
Updated track here:-  http://app.strava.com/activities/65678395

Please note that I'm still 9th fastest on the long downhill where I can't remember pedalling; chin just above the stem and narrow shoulders FTW  :thumbsup:





Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 07:46:01 pm
Thanks, everyone.  When I did Tan Hill as a newcomer to the forum in 2011 it was one of the highlights of my cycling (and social) life.  I'm realy glad you all had the hoped-for great time.  I also had a lovely day out riding and helping on an Audax in the Peaks but it was a calendar change that made the dates clash.  I hope it doesn't happen again - the clash, I mean.

It just occurred to me to start an alphabetical list of Great Dales:-

Arkengarth, Barbon, Cover, Dent, E, Farn, Gars....

Suggestions?

Thanks again

Uncle Peter

East Stones.

Can't think of an "I".
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: shyumu on 07 July, 2013, 07:57:44 pm
I've had that lantern rouge round for coffee and he's related the FNRtTH experience to me - together with the excellent pictures and stories here it is clear what a brilliant time was had - COR and all.  Glad to hear the Tan Hill Inn has improved in hospitality.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 July, 2013, 08:42:24 pm
Just remembered something:

Did anyone else get attacked by zombies in Middleton Tyas?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 07 July, 2013, 08:48:05 pm
Just remembered something:

Did anyone else get attacked by zombies in Middleton Tyas?

Yes.
I joshed with them "You jolly scamps" "Bastards".

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 08:50:11 pm
Just remembered something:

Did anyone else get attacked by zombies in Middleton Tyas?

Yes.
I joshed with them "You jolly scamps" "Bastards".

They never said a word to me and phanta - we were the first ones up the hill, and I think the couple in question were a bit too spaced out for it to really register. I expected Slowcoach to use his local knowledge to offer advice about a better location for some late night privacy...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 07 July, 2013, 08:55:08 pm
The two on the bench? They said/shouted something and were laughing when I passed but were still seated and didn't seem threatening at the time
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 07 July, 2013, 08:59:48 pm
They popped out from behind a parked car as I rode past and shouted "Boo"*.
I wasn't expecting it so I did my emergency wiggle.
Bastards.


*Or similar. Bastards.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 July, 2013, 09:14:46 pm
Wow and I got the full treatment - "Braaaiiinsss, we want Braaainnss"
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 09:33:26 pm
Well, that was a rubbish pub crawl. We only managed three pubs in 17 hours! Not a bad bike, ride, though.

Too many words. Special thanks to Slowcoach and mrcharly for sweeping the back dutifully and efficiently, and to tiermat (and Mrs T, of course) for letting folks use his house. Mrs Miggins' cake was gorgeous, and to all of you who politely marked junctions, many thanks. The staff at the pub were also excellent, though disappointingly cheerful. Apparently Tracy the mad landlady still owns the place, so grumpy service and impromptu demands to make your own tea, stoke the fire etc will still be forthcoming.

So, to the photos.

Gorgeous sunset on the way down:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3699/9233809202_6d73e6b75f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233809202/)

Puncture repair on Dinsdale Bridge:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3747/9231020815_aac4303c68_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231020815/)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3800/9233801146_328a5a9b8f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233801146/)

Pissing about at the top of Crusty Bank (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=41661.msg851541#msg851541):

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2849/9233802966_1b79700309_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233802966/)
Phanta and tom_e (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233802966/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2849/9233811458_d565fbd8fe_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233811458/)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3684/9233810690_a92e879733_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233810690/)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2838/9231029431_95865bb26e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231029431/)
Slowcoach, mrcharly and Canardly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231029431/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

Climbing up to the tank ranges:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2861/9231035061_cd8e73bd62_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231035061/)
jane and loadsabikes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231035061/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3695/9231034501_977ae89f94_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231034501/)
mcshroom and tom_e (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231034501/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Canardly on 07 July, 2013, 09:34:50 pm
I had wailing and trying to sell me some of her mum's flowers.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 09:41:00 pm
More photos:

Sunrise on the ranges:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7417/9233834800_da03913eb7_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233834800/)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5507/9233846850_45cc37f3c0_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233846850/)
lantern rouge and Canardly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233846850/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2822/9231060563_b58d377e9e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231060563/)
andrewc (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231060563/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/9231057675_a9d8fe3f43_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231057675/)
mrcharly and Wowbagger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231057675/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

AndrewBr admiring Wensleydale:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7393/9233844406_c06d9ce3d1_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233844406/)


Reeth:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5496/9234221368_f057611db8_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234221368/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/9233849414_79907ac138_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233849414/)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3711/9231077031_e6cae35a45_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231077031/)
andrewc in Reeth (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231077031/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5332/9231072039_a142f854c7_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231072039/)
Canardly in Reeth (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231072039/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5333/9234051968_0fa4d28cb9_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234051968/)
bin in Reeth (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234051968/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7295/9231442643_e2f1d6837e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231442643/)
CrinklyUncle in Reeth (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231442643/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7459/9231274511_fee06b3416_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231274511/)
Dave L in Reeth (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231274511/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2872/9231421191_3bc4e42432_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231421191/)
Slowcoach in Reeth (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231421191/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

Arkengarthdale was lovely, though it is a steep pull away from Reeth:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/9231277365_95964170af_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231277365/)
Crinkly Uncle in Arkengarthdale (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231277365/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3734/9234200056_00c129b95a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234200056/)
Tom_e, jane, and loadsabikes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234200056/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3752/9231290193_9c799c8896_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231290193/)


The buttercups have gone a bit mad this year, coating the fields in yellow:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3726/9234193278_b7bc6dc183_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234193278/)

But there's always a bloody cyclist in the way of your shot, isn't there ;)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3715/9231414737_4e71cb26aa_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231414737/)
andrewc (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231414737/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2854/9231399789_5817270080_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231399789/)
lantern rouge in Arkengarthdale (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231399789/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 09:45:31 pm
While we were dossing on the grass on the way up, Wowbagger commented that he'd had a pint and a meal at the next pub, which was on the left before Tan Hill.

Now, there's nothing until Tan Hill - no habitation, nothing. There's a bridge, and an abandoned railway carriage, which I can't imagine anyone mistaking for a pub. There's no room for a bar, for one thing, and in bad weather it's filled with sheep, who probably wouldn't react well to a request for a pint of Best and a Sunday lunch.

So here it is, the newly-christened W.B. Inn:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5486/9231395737_774ebddb25_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231395737/)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 09:49:12 pm
Bike parking outside Tan Hill Inn:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2815/9231391507_1be164a52f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231391507/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7428/9231297245_91129776e7_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231297245/)

And inside, the sad after-effects of night riding and over-indulgence:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/9231385965_02c9e32c1c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231385965/)
Tan Hill - tom_e (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231385965/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2888/9231381693_2b81a24982_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231381693/)
Dave L (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231381693/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3812/9234083360_aecf59d9d0_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234083360/)
lantern rouge and Tom_e (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234083360/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

And some group photos:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7400/9234159980_0e3f1c6049_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234159980/)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2834/9231304909_1ed62c7823_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231304909/)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 09:53:39 pm
I've annotated this group photo, which you may have to zoom in to see:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7344/9231831389_4f24a55675_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231831389/)

And there was something missing...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 11:02:49 pm
And finally, the track across Sleightholme Moor:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/9231367441_eed7920837_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231367441/)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2878/9234143400_f09e5f11ae_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234143400/)
AndrewBr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7415/9231354997_1dcb79c000_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231354997/)
Lantern rouge (do you reckon we could convince people this is the LEL route?)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5327/9231348989_f48579d85c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231348989/)
Phanta, looking utterly composed

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5451/9231343695_6165bd1d21_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231343695/)
"Slow"coach

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/9231338115_37d8c153e9_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231338115/)
Crinkly Uncle

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5342/9234115722_0b9cf25465_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234115722/)
bridge over Sleightholme Beck

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3739/9231327851_a6417fcfaa_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231327851/)
Wowbagger at Sleightholme Farm

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2827/9231321925_00392178ab_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231321925/)
Dave L at Sleightholme Farm

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5483/9234099328_805b08218c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9234099328/)
Lantern rouge and Phanta at Sleightholme Farm

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7454/9231311151_2c7eff607b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231311151/)
jane at Sleightholme Farm
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 July, 2013, 11:06:46 pm
Phanta isn't walking!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 11:08:03 pm
No, that would have taken forever!

Actually, I did briefly consider sending Phanta over the Stang instead, but it was just too complicated with different groups and stuff - and the Stang is much, much harder.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 07 July, 2013, 11:11:15 pm
And finally, the track across Sleightholme Moor:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/9231367441_eed7920837_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231367441/)

You could totally do that on an ICE Sprint...   *ponders*  :demon:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 11:12:00 pm
That was the smoothest bit.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Kim on 07 July, 2013, 11:14:09 pm
Yeah, thought it had improved...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 11:15:16 pm
No photos (you'll be glad to hear), but one of my favourite parts was the impromptu teamwork to guide a stray calf in Swaledale back into the field with its family.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: andrewc on 07 July, 2013, 11:21:21 pm
That looks pretty!  I may try that instead of going home via Kirkby Stephen next year.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 07 July, 2013, 11:22:23 pm



AndrewBr admiring Wensleydale:

[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9233844406/](http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7393/9233844406_c06d9ce3d1_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231057675/)




Never mind Wensleydale, look at my f*cking red trousers hubs.

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 11:26:14 pm
That looks pretty!  I may try that instead of going home via Kirkby Stephen next year.

You had the bike for it. And one of the advantages of the ride is that we go up to the pub at night, when the wind drops, then get a howling tailwind back to Darlo.

Mind you, my calves are still aching after that descent - owing to arse-related issues, I had to hold myself out of the saddle on any rough bits, including the three-mile track. A bit tricky on fixed.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 07 July, 2013, 11:29:09 pm
There's some horribly spaced out photies of me up there. Ah well.

Had a good ride and a fun impromptu cowherding session.  Not sure my fellow herder on the gate (Andrew Br?) was too sure as the calf galloped towards him :-) .

Ride back on Saturday was a bit hot for my liking, but made it eventually with several cooling off stops up hills. I took no pictures on the overnight ride because other people seemed to have proper cameras about so I kept the phone tucked away. But took a couple of the track into Wharfedale in case anybody else felt like exploring it as COR in future:

It goes up for a bit on a dead end road:
(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/IMAG0472.jpg)

[Edit:] View off the right of Semer Water:
(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/IMAG0474.jpg)

Then the tarmac runs out after a farm.
(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/IMAG0475.jpg)

And then it gets more loose rocks and heads upward.
(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/IMAG0476.jpg)

So I stopped to eat a pasty. Loose surface:
(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/IMAG0477.jpg)

Unfortunately I obviously needed to let the food go down so I walked the short steep bit, you understand.

Then lots of stuff like this on top:
(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/IMAG0478.jpg)(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/IMAG0479.jpg)(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/2013-07-06_13-54-54_HDR.jpg)

And finally steeper and more loose rocks again on the descent.
(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs/stakemoss/IMAG0481.jpg)

Took a bit longer than I expected because my tyres were a bit too narrow and hard really. It was a nice track but I don't think I could recommend it for a road bike; I fear it would cross that fine line from comedy off road to sense of humour failure.

I think even the steep uphill would ride with proper knobblies, a bit of fitness and a bit of skill. I'll dig out a link for the location.. South from Carpley Green (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=394500&y=487500&z=120&sv=carpley+green&st=3&tl=Map+of+Carpley+Green,+North+Yorkshire+&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Peter on 07 July, 2013, 11:38:18 pm
This thread just gets better and better!

Wow, is this your bridge (at Whorlton and my favourite bridge in the world)?


(http://www.zen177395.zen.co.uk/Whorlton .jpg)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 July, 2013, 11:40:20 pm
And then it gets more loose rocks and heads upward.(http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab277/tom_e_a/IMAG0476_zpsc48c076f.jpg)
The worst bits of the track to BC were pretty similar to your photo. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Peter on 07 July, 2013, 11:42:17 pm
Thanks, everyone.  When I did Tan Hill as a newcomer to the forum in 2011 it was one of the highlights of my cycling (and social) life.  I'm realy glad you all had the hoped-for great time.  I also had a lovely day out riding and helping on an Audax in the Peaks but it was a calendar change that made the dates clash.  I hope it doesn't happen again - the clash, I mean.

It just occurred to me to start an alphabetical list of Great Dales:-

Arkengarth, Barbon, Cover, Dent, E, Farn, Gars....

Suggestions?

Thanks again

Uncle Peter

East Stones.

Can't think of an "I".


The E was for Edale, but East Stonesdale sounds good.  You can't move for Ws. and West Stonesdale would have to be a candidate, especially in this thread!

I?  how about Inverdale?  Starts with a big mouth, apparently....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 11:42:50 pm
Tom: Stake Moss?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2013, 11:50:10 pm
Peter, I just spent ages searching for a place named "inverdale" before I realised what you were on about  :facepalm:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23214821

(In my defence, the entire thing had passed me by)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 07 July, 2013, 11:51:29 pm
Tom: Stake Moss?

That's it (link added).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: LindaG on 07 July, 2013, 11:55:59 pm
This thread just gets better and better!

Wow, is this your bridge (at Whorlton and my favourite bridge in the world)?


(http://www.zen177395.zen.co.uk/Whorlton .jpg)

My favourite bridge in the world also.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Peter on 08 July, 2013, 12:00:01 am
Peter, I just spent ages searching for a place named "inverdale" before I realised what you were on about  :facepalm:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23214821

(In my defence, the entire thing had passed me by)

Sorry!  I only saw it on text, myself.  I believe there's been some sort of match on today, too?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 08 July, 2013, 12:01:22 am
This thread just gets better and better!

Wow, is this your bridge (at Whorlton and my favourite bridge in the world)?


(http://www.zen177395.zen.co.uk/Whorlton .jpg)

My favourite bridge in the world also.
I didn't share the info on the ride, but when we were kids we used to stand on that bridge and wait until a car was coming, then vigorously shake the cables to make the bridge sway alarmingly, and stand aside to watch the expressions of the drivers ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Peter on 08 July, 2013, 12:19:52 am
Tom: Stake Moss?

That's it (link added).

Tom, where were you headed?  (Some people will do anything to avoid Kidstones!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 08 July, 2013, 12:22:38 am
Wetherby-ish. It was an alternative to Fleet Moss, possibly a little less distance. Probably no easier.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 08 July, 2013, 06:19:47 am
Yup, near Wetherby. The track was just for fun, I'm sure it's not the quickest way. That would probably have meant leaving the dales east first and running down the flatlands instead.  :P

Anyway, it drops 140m before it hits the top of Kidstones, yer cheeky thing...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tom_e on 08 July, 2013, 06:32:15 am
The worst bits of the track to BC were pretty similar to your photo.

I shall have to get out and try both to be fair then. It's difficult to judge in photos!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 08 July, 2013, 08:12:36 am

And there was something missing...

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3822/9231838181_cb70bee33d_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/9231838181/)

You could have chosen a more upto date one of me!

Now I am (sort of) more awake, my memories of Friday.

Leaving the pub at (near enough) midnight, a stream of 16 cyclists setting off into the night, me at the front, leading us through the town.  Deano thought we were going round by the prison, but I thought it might be more (harmless) fun to ride down the high street.  It was! The groups of drunken youths shouting unintelligable rubbish at us from outside every pub made me smile.

Soon we were into the darkness, just after Brompton.  The group, as is usually the case on group rides, split and reformed in different formations throughout the run.  This meant you were never short of a new conversation.

At Scotch Corner coffee was drunk (which made me feel a bit quesy, due to the late night and me being off the caffiene at the moment) and chats were had.  Off back into the night (well pre-dawn) and a fast dash down to Scorton.  At Moulton (about 2 miles before Scorton) I said to Dean "I'll break and get some photos of everyone coming round the corner in Scorton.  This I did, and when I get back home I'll post them.  I then went on my merry way back to NTR, having family obligations to complete that day (swimming lessons and dance rehersals), whilst Mrs T was out at a birhtday bash for one of her friends.  I took the scenic route home, including a dawn ride down a dry Shark Lane!

Home by about 05:05, cup of tea, toast then a nap on the sofa.

One of my favourites, nearly up there with last year's birthday ride.  It's only beaten by that due to us being able to sit on the beach at the end.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: clarion on 08 July, 2013, 09:51:02 am
How long has Randompunter been a member of the forum?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 08 July, 2013, 12:27:27 pm


I didn't share the info on the ride, but when we were kids we used to stand on that bridge and wait until a car was coming, then vigorously shake the cables to make the bridge sway alarmingly, and stand aside to watch the expressions of the drivers ;D

I guess you had to make your own fun in those days................

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 08 July, 2013, 01:26:02 pm
No, that would have taken forever!

Actually, I did briefly consider sending Phanta over the Stang instead, but it was just too complicated with different groups and stuff - and the Stang is much, much harder.

Is it even worse than that horrible track?! :o

That was definitely the least fun bit IMHO, though everyone else seemed not to be bothered. I was paranoid about getting another puncture from all the rocks strewn about, and also worried about holding everyone up. After some words of advice from mrcharly and slowcoach, I did ride most of it (except the really bad bits). Not the worst COR I've done, but the worst on 25mm slicks I think. The descent down past the farm, when it got vaguely tarmac-like again, was fun though!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 08 July, 2013, 01:32:29 pm
Deano reckons its worse than it was in 2011 - I think so too. Now and then I cheated by riding on a grass bit because it really was a bit too rough and skiddy for skinny tyres.

I'd like to try it on 37mm tyres - maybe next year.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: tiermat on 08 July, 2013, 01:49:32 pm
Deano reckons its worse than it was in 2011 - I think so too. Now and then I cheated by riding on a grass bit because it really was a bit too rough and skiddy for skinny tyres.

I'd like to try it on 37mm tyres - maybe next year.

Possibly the only bit of the ride I was fully prepared for (42mm tyres) and I missed it :(

Next year...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Andrew Br on 08 July, 2013, 02:16:21 pm
Not Morrisons:-

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2846/9237333743_9744a7f063_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31668252@N05/9237333743/)
Not Morrisons (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31668252@N05/9237333743/) by Chocolatebike1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31668252@N05/), on Flickr

Morrisons:-

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3803/9240111468_0cd582e1de.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31668252@N05/9240111468/)
Morrisons (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31668252@N05/9240111468/) by Chocolatebike1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31668252@N05/), on Flickr




Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: mcshroom on 08 July, 2013, 02:20:05 pm
Well it's pretty close :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 08 July, 2013, 04:07:07 pm
Well - I'm late to this thread again, as usual... It was a great ride folks. Thanks Dean, and everyone else. I've no photos to put up - I appear to have a greasy thumb print in the middle of every shot I took...

It was good for me to get out on a YACF ride again - it's been a year since I last saw many of you. I'm signing up for next year's Tan Hill run now though. When's the date? I'm assuming that the totally inappropriate Tan Hill weather is being booked again. I've only ever been sunburnt at Tan Hill twice (frostbite is usually the risk up there). Is it a coincidence that both sunburn occasions have coincided with the Tan Hill ride?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 08 July, 2013, 04:08:59 pm
This thread just gets better and better!

Wow, is this your bridge (at Whorlton and my favourite bridge in the world)?


(http://www.zen177395.zen.co.uk/Whorlton .jpg)

My favourite bridge in the world also.
I didn't share the info on the ride, but when we were kids we used to stand on that bridge and wait until a car was coming, then vigorously shake the cables to make the bridge sway alarmingly, and stand aside to watch the expressions of the drivers ;D
Our trick was for 10 of us or so to all stomp across the bridge together in time. You could get quite a ripple flowing along the deck.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: SlowCoach on 08 July, 2013, 04:14:06 pm
Deano reckons its worse than it was in 2011 - I think so too. Now and then I cheated by riding on a grass bit because it really was a bit too rough and skiddy for skinny tyres.

I'd like to try it on 37mm tyres - maybe next year.

The track surface may have been marginally worse, but this time we did have one major advantage - the track was dry and there weren't any puddles. At least you knew how deep and evil any particular pothole was going to be. I did suggest to Phanta that she ought to be memorising the route around the potholes for next time - when the road is awash from side to side, it's useful to know which side you ought to be when to avoid the piranha and the sharks. Somehow, I don't think she believed me.  ???
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Tan Hill - Northallerton, July 5th 2013
Post by: Deano on 09 July, 2013, 10:12:59 pm
No, that would have taken forever!

Actually, I did briefly consider sending Phanta over the Stang instead, but it was just too complicated with different groups and stuff - and the Stang is much, much harder.

Is it even worse than that horrible track?! :o

That was definitely the least fun bit IMHO, though everyone else seemed not to be bothered. I was paranoid about getting another puncture from all the rocks strewn about, and also worried about holding everyone up. After some words of advice from mrcharly and slowcoach, I did ride most of it (except the really bad bits). Not the worst COR I've done, but the worst on 25mm slicks I think. The descent down past the farm, when it got vaguely tarmac-like again, was fun though!

It's much, much steeper. Do you recall the right turn at Langthwaite signposted Barnard Castle? It's that road.

So you'd have to descend to Langthwaite, climb back up to about the same altitude as Tan Hill (but at >16% gradients, rather than the gentle sweeps of Arkengarthdale), then tackle the switchbacks on the <20% descent through the forest, and either ride along the A66 for a mile or so before coming back to Startforth, or hack along the up-and-down lanes through Scargill and Barningham to Smallways.

Actually, it's fantastic ;D But the extra climbing makes it harder and slower than the gradual descent you get on the route we took.