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FifeingEejit

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #625 on: 15 July, 2019, 12:36:07 am »
Doric probably shows best that the divergence between Scots, northumbric and English happened long before the modern forms.

Yet he still tries to make it sound like a modern English dialect, im sure he must have looked at one of the norse languages in the past...

Queen is a derivative of a proto Germanic word for woman, as is quine as used in the north east, as is Kvinna as used in the norse languages.

Still stands out to me that "long day" in Danish is said almost exactly the same as in Doric.

Lang day

You'd almost think the Germanic languages are all related...

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #626 on: 15 July, 2019, 10:03:40 am »
I was up in Aberdeen during their university charities (rag) week untold years ago. One of their slogans was FARSYADOJO, i.e. where is your money, Joseph?
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #627 on: 15 July, 2019, 11:06:07 am »
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #628 on: 18 July, 2019, 07:50:51 am »
Coming from the outskirts of Stockport in Cheshire I went to university in Aberdeen.  The first year was mainly lecture based and had little contact with locals.  However I got a summer job in a construction company 5 miles north of Inverurie erecting Dutch barns around Scotland.  I still remember the total incomprehension on the first morning of meeting the foreman. "Hi Loon, fit like, hae your piece?".  It was actually the best training for moving onto the wards later on where I was able to translate for some of my colleagues.

I also have the annoying tendency anytime we are driving around the area between Perth and Huntley of suddenly telling other occupants that I built the Dutch barn they can see.

FifeingEejit

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #629 on: 18 July, 2019, 12:51:04 pm »
Ach, he was being considerate with that Hi on the front.
Normally it's "Ha fit Like Loun, hae yir piece wi yi?"
(How are you young man, have you got your luncheon with you?)

My Gran speaks Mearns which is a mix of Doric and Midlands Scots though mostly doric, I'll usually speak in to a mix of SSE and Midlands when speaking to her.
Such like:
"Fit like loun?"
"Nae bad gran, hows you?"

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #630 on: 18 July, 2019, 07:18:13 pm »
Hi, Ha auto spelling. 

Mymother in law spoke gaelic till she went ti school and would still speak to her mother in gaelic.  My wife knows enough gaelic (embedded somewhere in her brain) that she was able to semi-chat to an old lady in hospital from the North west of Scotland.

We then moved to Lanarkshire and then Glasgow before Edinburgh, learning a new language in each place.

I remember the description of Edinburgh people as "come in, you'll have had your tea."  Whereas in the Northwest, any visit required a cooked meal with pancakes.  Salmon fish cakes because they were feuds with straight salmon was  amazing as was collecting the crab from the creel, rowing back to shore and 5 minutes later it would be cooking in the pan.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #631 on: 18 July, 2019, 07:56:10 pm »
Pancakes were certainly always on the menu at my Great Aunt's in Fort Augustus, but that was Dad's side of the family.
Being a farming/mill lassie fae Dundee she had to learn the Gaelic tae speak tae the dugs on the farm.
Didn't have the modern harsh mill dialect but can't remember if like my direct relatives on Dundee she spoke SSE or if she spoke Midlands.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #632 on: 18 July, 2019, 08:05:32 pm »
Hmm, I tend to revert a wee bit to Doric when speaking with Mother Dear, who comes from Gamrie stock, but was brought up in Macduff.

When I first brought the not-yet-Mrs-F home, she struggled to understand any of it!
And I thought I was being rather mild in the use of it!

Regarding Gamrie, that's a whole other sub-language variant on the Doric!
Spoken only within about 2 fishing villages in a two mile radius!

citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #633 on: 18 July, 2019, 08:13:21 pm »
I’ve never been to Aberdeen but my favourite Aberdeen story is the hoax posted on Twitter that got picked up by Sky Sports, who ran it as a legit story - the prankster claimed Aberdeen FC had signed a player called Yerdas Selzavon.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #634 on: 18 July, 2019, 08:37:07 pm »
Trying to get spoof signings onto the news as a favourite of the football message board I'm on a few years ago. Not sure if that was one of them but there was various similar.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #635 on: 21 January, 2020, 08:56:08 am »
I was out on site yesterday with a builder who repeatedly said "chimberley" (chimney, btw) and I don't think it was ironic..

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #636 on: 21 January, 2020, 09:05:27 am »
I was out on site yesterday with a builder who repeatedly said "chimberley" (chimney, btw) and I don't think it was ironic..

You are going to hate this then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYm3-7hkMww

 :)
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #637 on: 21 January, 2020, 04:55:38 pm »
<shudder>

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #638 on: 22 January, 2020, 12:35:15 pm »
Wasn't that how it was pronounced in "Under Milk Wood"?

*googles*

Ah yes - Mr. Waldo's song:

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In Pembroke City when I was young
I lived by the Castle Keep
Sixpence a week was my wages
For working for the chimbley-sweep.
Six cold pennies he
gave me Not a farthing more or less
And all the fare I could afford
Was parsnip gin and watercress.
I did not need a knife and fork
Or a bib up to my chin
To dine on a dish of watercress
And a jug of parsnip gin.
Did you ever hear a growing boy
To live so cruel cheap
On grub that has no flesh and bones
And liquor that makes you weep?
Sweep sweep chimbley sweep,
I wept through Pembroke City
Poor and barefoot in the snow
Till a kind young woman took pity.
Poor little chimbley sweep she said
Black as the ace of spades
O nobody's swept my chimbley
Since my husband went his ways
Come and sweep my chimbley
Come and sweep my chimbley
She sighed to me with a blush
Come and sweep my chimbley
Come and sweep my chimbley
Bring along your chimbley brush!
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #639 on: 22 January, 2020, 01:29:11 pm »
I think it's a fairly common dialect variant, isn't it? Or at least used to be.

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #640 on: 22 January, 2020, 09:53:29 pm »
I heard a song today that rhymed ours with grass.

I shuddered.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #641 on: 07 March, 2020, 12:00:25 pm »
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Wow. You live for nearly half a century and then hear a familiar word said in a totally new way.

Wow.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #642 on: 07 March, 2020, 12:06:55 pm »
I just heard that too. Took me a few seconds to process.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #643 on: 07 March, 2020, 12:16:20 pm »

Yesterday I rather liked (so this is the wrong thread) epEEdemic.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #644 on: 16 June, 2020, 09:00:40 am »
The other day I noticed that the narrator of $TV_PROGRAMME had ceased to utter the word "tonne*" such that it rhymes with "sun" or "bun" and now says it in a way that it rhymes with "don", "swan" or "scone".  This is, to this Unit, plain Wrong and he needs to stop it forthwith.

* I assume he's talking about these, since said prog is shot in a metric country viz. Australia
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #645 on: 16 June, 2020, 09:29:43 am »
'archiepel-'AARgo

Wow. You live for nearly half a century and then hear a familiar word said in a totally new way.

Wow.

That's how pirates say it. And they should know.

T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #646 on: 16 June, 2020, 09:37:02 am »
Flare pronounced flayawe, dark pronounced dawk, but USAnian speaker so yes, well.
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citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #647 on: 16 June, 2020, 09:59:49 am »
Mary Anne Hobbs frequently has me shouting at the radio for her mangling of words, but she hit new heights last week when reading the title of a piece as "in E B minor".

I like Mary Anne Hobbs. She plays a good selection of music, and she has a good voice for radio. But she's just not very bright.
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T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #648 on: 16 June, 2020, 10:18:25 am »
Maybe she'd been watching Green Eggs and Ham.
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citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #649 on: 16 June, 2020, 10:44:02 am »
Dr Seuss references are wasted on me.
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."