Author Topic: Drum fills / solos (Read 7851 times)

D0m1n1c Burford · « **on:** 31 October, 2008, 10:38:05 pm »

Ok, we've had guitar riffs, and keyboard riffs, now how about the drums.

My suggestions are:

- Terry Bozzio - The Black Page (an excellent example of polyrythyms)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/GDwRJK8bpb4&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/GDwRJK8bpb4&rel=1</a>
- Neil Peart - Der Trommler (one of of Neil's best solos so far)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/gEVrN9SdRuk&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/gEVrN9SdRuk&rel=1</a>
- Vinnie Colaiuta - Jazz From Hell (I think)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-adDqW07Cw4&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/-adDqW07Cw4&rel=1</a>
Maybe Really Ancien can help me on this one, as a fellow Zappa fan
- Steve Gadd - Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover (boy is this difficult to play)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/sZZLLYEzKE8&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/sZZLLYEzKE8&rel=1</a>

Come on, let's hear it for the drummers!

BTW just because these guys make it look easy doesn't mean it is. As an ex drummer myself, this stuff is difficult to play.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #1 on:** 31 October, 2008, 10:57:27 pm »

Pingu says the best drum solo is the one in the John Cage composition "4'33"

D0m1n1c Burford · « **Reply #2 on:** 31 October, 2008, 11:20:05 pm »

Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 31 October, 2008, 10:57:27 pm

Pingu says the best drum solo is the one in the John Cage composition "4'33"

Er..no...coughing and sneezing your way through a silent movement does not make for a good drum fill / solo.

D0m1n1c Burford · « **Reply #3 on:** 31 October, 2008, 11:27:38 pm »

Other drummers I have omitted are Steve Smith (genius), Dave Weckl (technique personified), Chester Thompson, Phil Collins (his Moroccan Roll stuff, not Genesis) and Stewart Copeland.

pcolbeck · « **Reply #4 on:** 01 November, 2008, 09:10:57 am »

I thought it was universally acknowledged to be John Bonham's drumming on

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/4-AanPHMbC4&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/4-AanPHMbC4&rel=1</a>. It's certainly the most sampled bit of drumming ever.

Analog Kid · « **Reply #5 on:** 01 November, 2008, 09:31:12 am »

Drum fills - for me the best by a country mile is Simon Kirke on Free's "I'll be creepin' " between the chorus and verse. Sometimes less is definately more.

As for drum solos. They elicit a Pavlovian Response in me that means that I only ever hear the very start as I head for the bar.

rogerzilla · « **Reply #6 on:** 01 November, 2008, 10:27:15 am »

I detest drum solos, but one of the frequently-acclaimed drum tracks is "Hotel California". Listen to it sometime.

HTFB · « **Reply #7 on:** 01 November, 2008, 10:58:00 am »

I was expecting this thread to be about people's experience of fitting an Arai brake to a non-tandem bike...

Er, I'll just go away quietly, shall I? Scusee. [shuffles off redfaced and mumbling]

Wascally Weasel · « **Reply #8 on:** 01 November, 2008, 11:00:41 am »

Quote from: D0m1n1c on 31 October, 2008, 11:27:38 pm

Other drummers I have omitted are Steve Smith (genius), Dave Weckl (technique personified), Chester Thompson, Phil Collins (his Moroccan Roll stuff, not Genesis) and Stewart Copeland.

What about Mark unpronounceablesurname Brzezicki?

Chris S · « **Reply #9 on:** 01 November, 2008, 11:33:08 am »

Ged Lynch gets my vote for shear stamina on this:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/PyNDS4fzdeE&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/PyNDS4fzdeE&rel=1</a>

This song gives me chills. If you've seen it live (I have twice) you'll know that the emotional feedback you get from the crowd is incredible - and that powerful drum sequence underpins it all and turns your bowels to mush (nearly).

D0m1n1c Burford · « **Reply #10 on:** 01 November, 2008, 12:52:18 pm »

Quote from: Wascally Weasel on 01 November, 2008, 11:00:41 am

Quote from: D0m1n1c on 31 October, 2008, 11:27:38 pm
Other drummers I have omitted are Steve Smith (genius), Dave Weckl (technique personified), Chester Thompson, Phil Collins (his Moroccan Roll stuff, not Genesis) and Stewart Copeland.

What about Mark unpronounceablesurname Brzezicki?

When I was younger, and used to play the drums, I used to try and copy his style. He made extensive use of his tom toms. For a sample of his work, check out the Cult album Love where he was the session drummer. And of course, he also played in Big Country

Flying_Monkey · « **Reply #11 on:** 01 November, 2008, 12:55:51 pm »

Drum solos... noooooooooooooooo! Just, no. Stop it. Except maybe in jazz, and even then keep 'em short.

D0m1n1c Burford · « **Reply #12 on:** 01 November, 2008, 01:06:33 pm »

Quote from: Flying_Monkey on 01 November, 2008, 12:55:51 pm

Drum solos... noooooooooooooooo! Just, no. Stop it. Except maybe in jazz, and even then keep 'em short.

You probably have the impression that all drum solos involve thrashing about and hitting everything in sight, which to be fair sums up most of them. However, check out some of the links I've posted in the OP, and you may be pleasantly surprised.

Terry Bozzio's drumming to the Black Page is legendary amongst drummers for its sheer complexity, as it involves myriad polyrythyms, and complete independance between all the limbs. The hands and feet actually play in different time signatures to each other, and this is very difficult to do.

Steve Gadd's drum pattern to Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover is also much copied by aspiring drummers. In fact, Steve Gadd is copied by drummers full stop.

A drum solo, like any musical solo, can be good, bad, self indulgent, musical etc. People readily accept guitar solos, but seem to have a problem with drum solos. Probably because there are so many awful ones about. The good ones however, really stand out.

Biff · « **Reply #13 on:** 01 November, 2008, 03:03:24 pm »

Wot? No

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/qGAzECdeyh8&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/qGAzECdeyh8&rel=1</a>?
One for the Proggies. Please tell me I'm not alone $:-\$

D0m1n1c Burford · « **Reply #14 on:** 01 November, 2008, 03:31:33 pm »

Quote from: Biff on 01 November, 2008, 03:03:24 pm

Wot? No ?
One for the Proggies. Please tell me I'm not alone $:-\$

I used to be a big fan of Asia, so Carl Palmer is more than welcome. As is Bill Bruford (especially his modern jazz offshoot Earthworks).

D0m1n1c Burford · « **Reply #15 on:** 01 November, 2008, 03:40:43 pm »

Quote from: pcolbeck on 01 November, 2008, 09:10:57 am

I thought it was universally acknowledged to be John Bonham's drumming on . It's certainly the most sampled bit of drumming ever.

I've always loved his drumming to Black Dog.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/N9i2fqxSjTI&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/N9i2fqxSjTI&rel=1</a>

His placement of the snare drum is just perfect.

Really Ancien · « **Reply #16 on:** 01 November, 2008, 04:33:12 pm »

Billy Cobham,

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ReGGPNQpz0o&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/ReGGPNQpz0o&rel=1</a>

But there is always a touch of the incidental music to Starsky and Hutch to mid 70s Fusion. I do like it, but I can't get the car chases with the cardboard boxes out of head. Could be in in the guitar or keyboard threads as well.

Damon.

D0m1n1c Burford · « **Reply #17 on:** 01 November, 2008, 05:37:42 pm »

Quote from: Really Ancien on 01 November, 2008, 04:33:12 pm

Billy Cobham,

But there is always a touch of the incidental music to Starsky and Hutch to mid 70s Fusion. I do like it, but I can't get the car chases with the cardboard boxes out of head. Could be in in the guitar or keyboard threads as well.

Damon.

While Billy Cobham's early work is exceptional, much of his recent work has failed to reach the same standard. Simply put, he seems to have lost his gift.

Really Ancien · « **Reply #18 on:** 01 November, 2008, 05:43:04 pm »

I put it down to the George Benson syndrome, why throw pearls before swine when they are happier with pig feed. George Duke tried to go down a similar path. The early to late 70s were a good time for fusion, as kids raised on prog sought out music of a similar style but higher quality. Punk killed that escalator.

Damon.

Frenchie · « **Reply #19 on:** 01 November, 2008, 06:26:39 pm »

Quote from: pcolbeck on 01 November, 2008, 09:10:57 am

I thought it was universally acknowledged to be John Bonham's drumming on "When the Levee Breaks" . It's certainly the most sampled bit of drumming ever.

I'm surprised it took so long to get the man in this thread!

kyuss · « **Reply #20 on:** 01 November, 2008, 06:49:50 pm »

This thread needs some proper metal.

Mike Portnoy

and a wee bit more

Frenchie · « **Reply #21 on:** 01 November, 2008, 06:51:58 pm »

Quote from: kyuss on 01 November, 2008, 06:49:50 pm

This thread needs some proper metal.

Mike Portnoy

and a wee bit more

Oh yes...

Dream Theater, a super-band band.

Cunobelin · « **Reply #22 on:** 01 November, 2008, 08:36:21 pm »

Really showing my age as I have seen him performing live!

Ginger Baker

..and slightly OT as not a "solo" although it may count as a fill"

Top Secret Drum Corps

redshift · « **Reply #23 on:** 01 November, 2008, 09:35:45 pm »

No Cozy Powell? Just listening to Stargazer used to be exhausting. Mind you, that was pretty much true of Rainbow generally.

Still hard to beat Neil Peart for percussion in the rock music world, but even he takes lessons.

slowfen · « **Reply #24 on:** 02 November, 2008, 09:58:38 am »

What do you call some one who hangs around with musicians??

A Drummer

Author Topic: Drum fills / solos (Read 7851 times)

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