Brevet 5000 rules query

[LittleWheelsandBig]

The ACP Randonneur 5000 award is any rolling four-year period.  I know somebody who's last qualifying ride was 3 years 11 months after their first, equally either side of PBP.

[mattc]

Site officiel de l'Audax Club Parisien

That page may as well be written in French. It reads as if drafted by a lawyer, who doesn't speak english or french, translating from a french document.

But I think I get the idea from other posts here.

[valkyrie]

So, it's just PBP in 2011 followed in 2012 by my own 1000km and an Easter arrow to go then.   

and I'll be sucking your wheel on all 3 of them!

[simonp]

Hmm, do you need all BRM rides for the ACP 25,000 medal?  That seems unpossible.

[LittleWheelsandBig]

There is no ACP 25000 award. It is AUK, so BRs or BRM.

[simonp]

There is no ACP 25000 award. It is AUK, so BRs or BRM.

That simplifies things then.

[Karla]

Can longer rides count for shorter on the AUK 5000 award?

[LittleWheelsandBig]

Yes

[Bairn Again]

So, it's just PBP in 2011 followed in 2012 by my own 1000km and an Easter arrow to go then.   

and I'll be sucking your wheel on all 3 of them!

thats the team taking shape then   

i hear that ecks keen too.   

[eck]

So, it's just PBP in 2011 followed in 2012 by my own 1000km and an Easter arrow to go then.   

and I'll be sucking your wheel on all 3 of them!

thats the team taking shape then   

i hear that ecks keen too.   

I regard my two Easter Arrows as being amongst my Greatest Achievements ^TM. 

Did you ever hear about the time I had to borrow a spare jersey....?

[Bairn Again]

So, it's just PBP in 2011 followed in 2012 by my own 1000km and an Easter arrow to go then.   

and I'll be sucking your wheel on all 3 of them!

thats the team taking shape then   

i hear that ecks keen too.   

I regard my two Easter Arrows as being amongst my Greatest Achievements ^TM. 

Did you ever hear about the time I had to borrow a spare jersey....?

That was the one with the snow right?

[eck]

That was the one with the snow right?

No, that was the one with the permafrost. 

The one with the snow was when we were treated to the sight of McNasty lying on his back in the woods, waving his legs in the air. 

[Ian H]

That was the one with the snow right?

No, that was the one with the permafrost. 

The one with the snow was when we were treated to the sight of McNasty lying on his back in the woods, waving his legs in the air. 

You do seem to have more fun in Scotland.

[simonp]

Brevet 5000/25000 progress:

25,000:

23,900km of auk points since I started in April 2006.  An Easter Arrow next year makes 24,300.  So I just need to ride another 700km of events over the winter and it’s done. 

If I miss the arrow in 2012 then points will start dropping off, but I only did 11 points in that season and I’ve averaged >40 points in the following seasons (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 => 228 points) so that’s no big issue, but it’d be nice to get it done.

5,000:

Brevet 5000 is easy enough since I’ve got PBP 2011 and LEL 2009 which should mean I have enough BRM points.  I need to get an arrow in by 2013 for LEL 09 to count.

[mattc]

Brevet 5000 is easy enough since I’ve got PBP 2011 and LEL 2009 which should mean I have enough BRM points.  I need to get an arrow in by 2013 for LEL 09 to count.

Job done 

So how do we claim for these things?
(The ACP R5000 I mean - I don't care about your silly show-off 25k)

http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/EN/index.php?showpage=382  was last updated in Jan 09, so it seems possible that matters have moved on since then.

[arabella]

Why don't you go for the AUK version - just email the relevant results links to the recorder (changed as at last AGM I think), that's what I did for mine.
I don't have a poncy BRM 1000 though, only a BR one.  and I think the AUK medals look nicer.  (bottle-opener look-alike, pah!)

[simonp]

Have to wait for the results to be up, first.

[LittleWheelsandBig]

Generally contact AUK's ACP bloke to get the ACP medal. Peter Marshall, occasionally of this parish but contacting him through the AUK website might be a better option.

[Maverick]

The Easter Arrow means an ACP R5000 has been completed here too. Another SR + 74 points still needed for the Brevet 25,000 though, hopeful of completing it this year.

[Bairn Again]

I gave up on a ACP Brevet 5000 when I got the AUK one (and realised that an ACP Brevet 5000 would mean doing an Easter Arrow this year).

This thread prompted me to get thinking last night about Brevet 25,000.  I concluded that if Im serious about Brevet 25k I should really do a 1300km event rather than Mille Alba, which wasnt how Id originally anticipated this year panning out.,     

[mattc]

Why don't you go for the AUK version ?

Is that one of the lesser awards?     

[Plodder]

Plodder - must be your ACP 5000 as well ?

According to the details on the link posted by MattC above, yes, I have completed that one.  As has Postie.

[Ivo]

This thread prompted me to get thinking last night about Brevet 25,000.  I concluded that if Im serious about Brevet 25k I should really do a 1300km event rather than Mille Alba, which wasnt how Id originally anticipated this year panning out.,     

It still needs some petitioning to get it accreditetd as an event, but there's a 3000k in Russia this summer. Get's you 30 points and a +1300k ride.

[simonp]

When they say "In a four year period" do they mean:

 - four seasons

 - four calendar years

 - any rolling four-year period

The third, I believe.

edit: and, can you count the same rides for both an AUK 5k and 25k ? I'm not so sure.  I got an ACP Brevet 5000 and an AUK 25k simultaneously. (Twice, but I've not bothered claiming the second ACP 5000)

Any rolling four-year period

You can use the same rides for an AUK B5000 and B25000.

PBP is a 1200 brevet.  There isn't any brevet that is exactly the nominal distance (Mandlebrot anyone?).  AUK allows longer rides to substitute for shorter, the ACP is more restrictive.

On attempting to claim my awards I’ve been advised that it’s not a rolling window but is 4 (consecutive) calendar seasons. Doesn’t matter for my 5000 as I managed everything in 2010, 11, 12 but for 25,000 I am one point short as it needs to be 2007-2012, removing 11 points from 2006 from my total. So a random 200k beckons.

[LittleWheelsandBig]

They've tightened up.