Author Topic: Cross Training: Running (Read 424054 times)

Greenbank · « **Reply #1850 on:** 02 November, 2018, 05:19:13 pm »

Accidental CDC on today's run: https://www.strava.com/activities/1941598218

(Will work on improving it on my Friday work run next week.)

Feanor · « **Reply #1851 on:** 02 November, 2018, 07:23:39 pm »

Humm.

About 20 years ago, when the world was black-and-white and all, I used to do some trail running.
So for reasons I can't quite explain, I've kicked it off again.

My first attempt was 5k, where I set off too fast and my calf muscles tightened up to the point they were threatning to cramp at 3k. I was doing a 4:30/k when I set off.
I was sore for a week after that.

I've wound it down a bit, and a week in London menat I was off the bike so I did some early-morning 5 to 7 runs along the riverside.
I've been experimenting a bit with what pace works for me, and I've found that 5:30/k leaves me un-affected, but feels too slow.
At 5:00/k, I am starting to feel in my calfs after 5k.

I've found that by lengthening my stride, particularly behind me, I can stretch out my calfs a bit more as I go.

So I'm now 4 x 5k runs into this nonsense!

Jasmine · « **Reply #1852 on:** 02 November, 2018, 07:28:07 pm »

Quote from: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 01 November, 2018, 04:49:00 pm

Sneaked in a 21087m run yesterday from the Hotel Stucki in Basel, along the Wiese almost as far as Haagen, and back.

Didn't fancy the extra 10m to make it a half marathon then?

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #1853 on:** 02 November, 2018, 07:38:51 pm »

Quote from: Jasmine on 02 November, 2018, 07:28:07 pm

Quote from: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 01 November, 2018, 04:49:00 pm
Sneaked in a 21087m run yesterday from the Hotel Stucki in Basel, along the Wiese almost as far as Haagen, and back.

Didn't fancy the extra 10m to make it a half marathon then?

I walked up the stairs to my room on the 3rd floor afterwards rather than taking the lift

I shouldn't be particularly precise in that area. Running along the Swiss German border means my phone switches signals from German providers to Swiss providers and can give some rather bizarre tracking results on MapMyRun.

ElyDave · « **Reply #1854 on:** 02 November, 2018, 08:05:30 pm »

Cross training : Hobbling

1.8km in about 27-30 minutes. It's a start

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #1855 on:** 02 November, 2018, 09:17:16 pm »

Quote from: Feanor on 02 November, 2018, 07:23:39 pm

My first attempt was 5k, where I set off too fast and my calf muscles tightened up to the point they were threatning to cramp at 3k. I was doing a 4:30/k when I set off.
I was sore for a week after that.

On the advice of my cycle club captain I took it very easy when I took up running at the tender age of 47. His point was that as a long distance cyclist I had the aerobic fitness and endurance to run 100 miles, and the connective tissue and little balancing muscles that could complain after 1. My golden rule is not to run more than once a week (well, at least 4 days between runs), to let the legs recover. And I stretch, pretty much religiously, for 15 minutes after every run.

I can't say whether its the best policy, but it's enabled me to run the half marathon distance or more 70 times in the last 7 years with a dodgy groin and arthritic damage in big toes without any further damage. Calf stretches are particular important for me because of the stiff toes (apparently - when I saw the specialist he had a trainee physiotherapist in tow and was explaining that fact. He also told me I shouldn't run and stick to cycling because of the toes. But they haven't fallen off yet, so I'm carrying on while I still can.

Greenbank · « **Reply #1856 on:** 03 November, 2018, 12:37:03 am »

Doing mostly cycling is awful for running (if you don't do anything to mitigate that), but running less frequently only reinforces that IMHO.

I run 4-6 times a week although I don't Audax anywhere near as much as I used to. If you've got a sensible plan then frequency isn't a problem.

Quote from: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 02 November, 2018, 09:17:16 pm

I can't say whether its the best policy, but it's enabled me to run the half marathon distance or more 70 times in the last 7 years with a dodgy groin and arthritic damage in big toes without any further damage.

I'm looking to build up to a HM every week. YMMobviouslyV.

αdαmsκι · « **Reply #1857 on:** 04 November, 2018, 08:43:35 am »

Cycling does nothing for my running as my heart rate is too low.

Running fitness, however, transfers straight over to cycling.

My post Berlin marathon fitness is kicking in over the short distance. I ran a 5 km PB yesterday at Mile End ParkRun, how I can run faster there than a track 5000 it's crazy but I'm not complaining at 15:57.

For anyone interested the ballot for Berlin marathon 2019 closes on 7 November.
https://www.bmw-berlin-marathon.com/m/

DrMekon · « **Reply #1858 on:** 04 November, 2018, 10:00:31 am »

Quote from: αdαmsκι on 04 November, 2018, 08:43:35 am

Cycling does nothing for my running as my heart rate is too low.

Running fitness, however, transfers straight over to cycling.

My post Berlin marathon fitness is kicking in over the short distance. I ran a 5 km PB yesterday at Mile End ParkRun, how I can run faster there than a track 5000 it's crazy but I'm not complaining at 15:57.

For anyone interested the ballot for Berlin marathon 2019 closes on 7 November.
https://www.bmw-berlin-marathon.com/m/

Chapeau!

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zigzag · « **Reply #1859 on:** 04 November, 2018, 11:32:40 am »

adamski, don't discount the training in madeira! well done for the sub-16 5k :O

Jasmine · « **Reply #1860 on:** 04 November, 2018, 11:49:33 am »

Crikey Adamski, that's a bit quick!

ElyDave · « **Reply #1861 on:** 04 November, 2018, 03:01:33 pm »

my recovery continues - 2km in about 35mins

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #1862 on:** 06 November, 2018, 04:42:26 pm »

Quote from: Jasmine on 04 November, 2018, 11:49:33 am

Crikey Adamski, that's a bit quick!

He rides a bike pretty quick too.

adenough · « **Reply #1863 on:** 07 November, 2018, 05:31:06 pm »

I used to run marathons in my 30s. They always hurt and each time vowed, never again. Gave it up for years. I now run or jog just 4 miles off road. I really enjoy it. I find running easy. Much easier than the bike in some respects. Running uphill for me is easier than riding uphill. I have no idea why. I could run much further I reckon, but I've had a bad knee problem which started on a run, so now I chicken out. I don't know whether to push it or not.

mrcharly-YHT · « **Reply #1864 on:** 09 November, 2018, 07:53:22 pm »

Blimey, that is going some, Adamski.

I'm ~~running~~ jogging again. My borked knee seems to have responded to kayaking and now tolerates a gentle jog. 3 gentle jogs in a week - first at 6min perkm pace, strava reckons that the last was 4.5 per km. I think strava was having a fit, I was still going at 6 per pace.

That's still only about the same speed I can paddle a kayak for the same distance, but it is a start. Something to keep fitness up when I don't get out of work in time to go paddling.

phantasmagoriana · « **Reply #1865 on:** 11 November, 2018, 07:41:36 pm »

Went for a bit of a run (ok, jog) tonight, because I CBA to cycle in the rain this morning and felt as though I should at least do something other than hibernate in the flat all day. Decided to forego earphones and came to the conclusion that actually, running is tolerable without music. I've never tried it before, as I've always just assumed that it's so tedious some distraction is necessary. But it was fine.

I've decided to not bother with Strava or timing or stuff for now, and just go at a gentle pace - i.e. slower than I "think" I should be going. It seems more sustainable that way.

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #1866 on:** 11 November, 2018, 08:35:16 pm »

A new thing for me today, did a half marathon after cycling 200km yesterday. It wasn't what I'd normally plan but the opportunity was there - firstly to get a long ride in yesterday (Mrs CET was in Sheffield with CET Junior 2, who won a medal in the British Trampoling Club League finals) and then the run, CET Junior in his last year at Pangbourne College and in the band has to do the remembrance service at 11.00 and then another one in the village later on, which gave me a couple of hours, so I headed off to Aldworth and ran along the Ridgeway and back, a bit of a recce for the Race to the Stones 100km which I've entered (next July). I wasn't sure how I would go with a long ride in the legs but, having had a quite a stressful day, set off what I felt was a bit too hard, and ran my second fastest half of the year (the faster one being on a particular quickest of trails).

Will have a go at upping the mileage to 20 next week, weather, family, etc permitting.

ElyDave · « **Reply #1867 on:** 11 November, 2018, 08:54:51 pm »

My cousin's daughter was also in those trampolining finals. Good running.

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #1868 on:** 21 November, 2018, 08:23:54 pm »

No running at the moment, bruised foot (not from running) but just completed 1000km on the bike in November (only the second time to make that milestone in November and the other time was when on gardening leave. So perhaps the cross training is working. Courtesy of my Airnimal the miles have been done in 4 countries (although don’t tell the Germans - they don’t know I entered their country).

perpetual dan · « **Reply #1869 on:** 21 November, 2018, 08:56:36 pm »

I stopped running in the summer as I was getting a repeated calf pain, but seem to have started again as time and enthusiasm for long rides has been in short supply. I’m back to 25 minutes and looking at a 10k and half marathon I could aim at next year. Also <whisper> avoiding bike rides to make space for the running </whisper>. I just hope I can do it without hurting myself this time.

DrMekon · « **Reply #1870 on:** 21 November, 2018, 11:42:01 pm »

Ran 15km at an average 4m50s pace with running club, and despite me averaging 6bpm off my HR lactate threshold, and my best 20min being within 1bpm of it, I felt ace all the way round, and did quite a bit of chatting. There were some proper runners there though. They looked like they literally weren't trying. They also looked like they weighed about 50kg! BMI is back down in the 20.x range, which is making everything easier. 19.x is maybe possible this side of Xmas, but doubtful by January

Need to start doing some longer runs. Have asked if I can tag along with some of the marathon training runs at weekends. I have entry for the Grindleford Gallop trail race in March, which is 21 miles and 3000ft of climbing.

ElyDave · « **Reply #1871 on:** 22 November, 2018, 05:18:20 pm »

Walked two miles this morning. Still using the stick, but less weight on it

αdαmsκι · « **Reply #1872 on:** 24 November, 2018, 07:15:58 pm »

I don't understand running. I've done two track sessions over the past three months and yet keep setting PBs. Sunday was 32:29 at the Adidas Fulham 10 km and today it was 15:37 at Long Eaton parkrun. Now if I can keep this fitness until the start of the Londonn marathon.........

DrMekon · « **Reply #1873 on:** 27 November, 2018, 09:03:38 am »

Those are great numbers!

I ran to and from the garage to get my car serviced. On the way back, I noticed increasing pain at the top/inside of my thigh. Hip and leg is sore / stiff this morning, and the piriformis stretches that I haven't been doing are sore. Not sure what I have done, but I won't be running today, and maybe not until the weekend. It's really uncomfortable.

Shames, as I'd managed to get back above 50CTL.

perpetual dan · « **Reply #1874 on:** 02 December, 2018, 08:57:02 pm »

A wet half an hour up the nearest hill today. Covered 5km. Failed to stop to take any photos.

I’ve also entered the 10km around Birling Gap / Beachy Head https://www.endurancelife.com/sussex

So I’m up to half the distance already, although not quite half the climb. My “plan” is for it to be a comfortable step on the way to further rather that for it to break me.