COVID Temp Checks & Cycling

[Whitedown Man]

This weekend I shall be cycling to a venue where I shall need to do a “forehead temperature check” before I enter. Will the fact that I’ve been cycling mean that my body temp will be elevated and I therefore run the risk of failing the test? If so, how long might I have to wait before my body temp drops back to normal?

[Notsototalnewbie]

I don't think those forehead checks are all that accurate but I did worry about this when I cycled to somewhere that I knew did one.

Once I'd faffed locking my bike with a million locks, and faffed again removing anything stealable (approx ten mins), there didn't appear to be any issues with my temp.

[FifeingEejit]

Had no problem that I'm aware of at a café on sunday, had forgotten to take my casquet off before entering the place an aw.
Didn't think to ask what temp was though, I run quite cold anyway.

[redshift]

I used one every time I cycled to work the other week, and it gave no problems at all - it's about a 90-second walk from the bike shed - apart from the fact that it seems really picky about where / how you present your face to it.  The one at my hospital appointment yesterday had a separate IR temperature monitor to which you had to present the inside of your wrist (without touching), and that seemed much more reliable.

[Salvatore]

I cycled about 15km to a hospital appointment in May. My temperature was taken as I entered the building and there was no problem. The reading was almost the same (higher by 0.2° I think, so insignificant) than what I had measured using an ancient mercury thermometer before I left home.

[grams]

Are places (in the UK) actually doing this?

I’ve seen talk elsewhere that the proportion of Covid patients who have a significantly elevated temperature at the same time as being well enough to be out and about is too small to make it worthwhile.

[Greenbank]

Are places (in the UK) actually doing this?

I went for a meal at a posh restaurant a few weeks ago, and to gain entry you had to stand in front of a screen that took your facial temperature (35.3^oC for me).

For my daughter going to various school clubs over the summer they had daily IR forehead temperature checks before being allowed in.

Other than asking questions (which people can always answer with lies - "No, I've had no symptoms" - etc) it's one thing that people can practically do. How effective it is is a completely different matter.

[rafletcher]

Are places (in the UK) actually doing this?

I’ve seen talk elsewhere that the proportion of Covid patients who have a significantly elevated temperature at the same time as being well enough to be out and about is too small to make it worthwhile.

Both GP surgeries I've had the pleasure of frequenting recently used a temp check on arrival.

[Kim]

Are places (in the UK) actually doing this?

I’ve seen talk elsewhere that the proportion of Covid patients who have a significantly elevated temperature at the same time as being well enough to be out and about is too small to make it worthwhile.

It's cheap, fast and easy, so sores highly in terms of 'doing something', even if it's largely ineffective.

[quixoticgeek]

It's cheap, fast and easy, so sores highly in terms of 'doing something', even if it's largely ineffective.

From the people who brought you security theatre, we now have... health theatre...

J

[Gattopardo]

Wonder how many airport test found people who were poisitive.

[FifeingEejit]

Are places (in the UK) actually doing this?

I’ve seen talk elsewhere that the proportion of Covid patients who have a significantly elevated temperature at the same time as being well enough to be out and about is too small to make it worthwhile.

The elevated temperature is 37.8C for indication, most people wouldn't be able to ignore that.

It's cheap, fast and easy, so sores highly in terms of 'doing something', even if it's largely ineffective.

From the people who brought you security theatre, we now have... health theatre...

J

Oh there's lots of theater (and I don't mean the operating theater) in healthcare...
Ever wondered why AMU consultants are obsessed with digital rectal examinations?
Or why american doctors wander around in scrubs while Scottish ones face the sack for wearing them out with a care setting?

[Cudzoziemiec]

There's a fancy hairdressers I walk past every week which does it. And my son's new school does it (I'm not sure if because it's education or because the premises are shared with offices). He said "We're all 16 so we'll all fail because our body temperatures are naturally higher. Mary's is constantly 38," but no problems after the first two days (anyway, Mary's at a different school now!).

[chrisbainbridge]

you will not get into a hospital in the Uk without it.

[JonBuoy]

you will not get into a hospital in the Uk without it.

I did yesterday.  No sign of any monitoring at Leicester Royal Infirmary.

[chrisbainbridge]

I am flabbergasted. The edict supposedly comes from the department of health.

[Sergeant Pluck]

you will not get into a hospital in the Uk without it.

I did yesterday.  No sign of any monitoring at Leicester Royal Infirmary.

Remarkable. Where I work is down to a single entrance with security bods, screening, patients that come in need to be escorted to and from the department, essential people only, no cafe or restaurant for patients etc.

[JonBuoy]

you will not get into a hospital in the Uk without it.

I did yesterday.  No sign of any monitoring at Leicester Royal Infirmary.

Remarkable. Where I work is down to a single entrance with security bods, screening, patients that come in need to be escorted to and from the department, essential people only, no cafe or restaurant for patients etc.

Nope.  Parked up.  Wandered across site.  In through main entrance.  Directed through corridors to adjacent building.  Up a floor on stairs rather than lift.  Past other departments such as Eye Clinic to get to Fracture Clinic.

[Lightning Phil]

you will not get into a hospital in the Uk without it.

You will get into A&E and pathology at our hospital without it.

They are doing Covid triage (no temp check) for A&E but not the hospital main entrance.

[Sergeant Pluck]

Wonder how many airport test found people who were poisitive.

In the US:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/sep/09/coronavirus-live-news-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-trial-put-on-hold-england-bans-gatherings-over-six?page=with:block-5f592af18f087b90a2990ef4#block-5f592af18f087b90a2990ef4

It said that of 675,000 passengers screened at the 15 airports, “fewer than 15 have been identified as having Covid-19.”

[Lightning Phil]

Besides this basically says it’s pointless

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dont-rely-on-temperature-screening-products-for-detection-of-coronavirus-covid-19-says-mhra

[BrianI]

No health screening temperature check when I visited hospital today (orthopedic outpatient at Victoria Hospital Kirkcaldy Fife Scotland).

[hellymedic]

I think they did a temperature check as well as a screening questionnaire when I attended Queen Square for a blood test in July.
Also had to change my mask & sanitise hands.

[FifeingEejit]

you will not get into a hospital in the Uk without it.

I did yesterday.  No sign of any monitoring at Leicester Royal Infirmary.

Ours were removed once processes and PPE were in place.
You can wander into the main concourse of the hospital with a face mask on.
If you're going to a clinic (and in the case of that it's only if the clinician believes they have to see you not speak on phone/video) I think that's all that's needed too along with a self assessment, the Aircon is off anyway from what I noticed last time I was down...

If you're being admitted then you'll have been sent for a test at an NHS run site, where an actual NHS staff member will assault* you with a swab, because HCPs don't trust people to assault themselves approrpiately. 

A colleagues been working on the testing site at weekends, mostly doing phone calls, explaining to people that if they won't take the test then their 18month RTT is reset is apparently a bit stressful because the sort of people refusing tests are usually primed for being dicks already although some say they've had a test already somewhere else... which means they have to be told the self-swab isn't reliable...

*(there are lots of healthcare processes that without consent would be covered by Assault here)

[Greenbank]

If you're being admitted then you'll have been sent for a test at an NHS run site, where an actual NHS staff member will assault* you with a swab, because HCPs don't trust people to assault themselves approrpiately. 

There's a huge debate over whether a (relatively gentle) nasal swab is required or whether a nasopharyngeal assault/swab is required.

The nurse that oversees our weekly/monthly tests for the ONS survey only insists on a nasal swab, so the swab is only going 5mm into the nose rather than 50mm to get to the nasopharnyx.

[EDIT] To be clear, we do the throat swab first. The "only" above applied to the nasal/nasopharyngneal distinction for the second part of the swab.