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Title: Old Photos
Post by: clarion on 16 March, 2012, 03:14:10 pm
Sat in the doctor's waiting room, I was leafing through Surrey Life (as you do).  There was an article about sport in the county, with plenty of cycling photos, since the starting point was the Olympic Road Race route.

I only had my phone with me, so the photos aren't great, I'm afraid, but I thought I'd share.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0316.jpg)

& caption
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0318.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0317.jpg)

Olympic torch 1948
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0319.jpg)

Can't tell if these are bicycles or speedway motorbikes, and they weren't mentioned in the text of the article.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0320.jpg)

Caption (middle of text)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0321.jpg)

EDIT: Just Googllld Runfold Hellcats, and found they are in fact a cycle speedway team :thumbsup:

Here's more (http://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/subjects/sports/cycle_speedway), including a better rendition of that photo.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: jogler on 16 March, 2012, 04:51:29 pm
which one is your goodself?
 ;)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 March, 2012, 09:31:45 pm
I like the arrangement of solo, tandem, triplet outside the pub.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Butterfly on 16 March, 2012, 09:34:00 pm
I like the arrangement of solo, tandem, triplet outside the pub.
I like the chain cases on the tandem and triplet. :D
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 March, 2012, 09:55:48 pm
The triplet's chain case is really rather impressive, isn't it.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: bobb on 16 March, 2012, 10:01:24 pm
Sat in the doctor's waiting room, I was leafing through Surrey Life (as you do).

I was sat in a doctor's waiting room too this morning. I didn't bother taking photos of the ancient copy of Women's Weekly I was reading though  :P
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: LindaG on 16 March, 2012, 10:02:25 pm
There was a Northern Echo with some nice walks and photos of Teesdale in when I was waiting for my MRI yesterday.

I didn't photograph them either.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Butterfly on 16 March, 2012, 10:39:57 pm
The triplet's chain case is really rather impressive, isn't it.
I wonder how Mr Leg-bandage feels about 3 stone of chain case on FNRttCs? ;D
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Adam on 16 March, 2012, 11:15:14 pm
Sat in the doctor's waiting room, I was leafing through Surrey Life (as you do).  There was an article about sport in the county, with plenty of cycling photos, since the starting point was the Olympic Road Race route.

I was in the Luton & Dunstable Hospital the other month and they had a 30 year old copy of Country Life, which I though was bad enough, but the age of your waiting room's magazines clearly qualify for museum status.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 March, 2012, 06:38:13 pm
I like the arrangement of solo, tandem, triplet outside the pub.
I like the chain cases on the tandem and triplet. :D
Judging by the age of the photo, I wonder how the admiralty thought about the resulting steel shortage for their Dreadnoughts!
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Canardly on 05 April, 2012, 08:59:00 pm
Can we keep this thread going please and just post as and when we come across an old photo. Interested in history of cycling and seems a good opportunity to pool knowledge.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Ian H on 05 April, 2012, 09:10:33 pm
There are some wonderful old photos on the CTC Devon site (http://www.ctcdevon.co.uk/). It's frames so you'll have to find photos in the sidebar menu and then scroll quickly to the bottom and "Devon DA's History".
[Yes, I know - comments on the photos only, please].
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Rimnod on 05 April, 2012, 09:13:19 pm
Saw this recently image posted at this url http://www.hoylakejunction.com/friday-photo-111216 (http://www.hoylakejunction.com/friday-photo-111216) and thought it may be of some interest.

(http://www.hoylakejunction.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/hoylake-cycling-club-large.jpg)

If anyone can put an approximate date to the image it would be useful.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Ian H on 05 April, 2012, 09:17:17 pm
I think I recognise Drew Buck on the left.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 05 April, 2012, 09:36:44 pm
There are some wonderful old photos on the CTC Devon site (http://www.ctcdevon.co.uk/). It's frames so you'll have to find photos in the sidebar menu and then scroll quickly to the bottom and "Devon DA's History".
[Yes, I know - comments on the photos only, please].
(http://www.ctcdevon.co.uk/historypix/groupstreet56_big.jpg)

I like the runner chasing them down the middle of the road.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Ian H on 05 April, 2012, 09:51:29 pm
Not everyone could afford a bike in those days.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 05 April, 2012, 09:53:41 pm
He can keep up with the cyclists because he smokes Woodbines.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Canardly on 05 April, 2012, 10:32:51 pm
There are all of two three cars in that shot
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: clarion on 05 April, 2012, 10:34:54 pm
Lovely photos!

I've picked up some postcards lately.  I must photograph them & post up here...
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Rimnod on 06 April, 2012, 01:20:08 pm
I think I recognise Drew Buck on the left.

Ian on the Hoylake photograph?
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 22 June, 2012, 10:25:27 pm
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/600248_10150989643628874_891433020_n.jpg) 

(http://)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 22 June, 2012, 10:33:02 pm
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601295_10150987460033874_1756656189_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 22 June, 2012, 10:34:22 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166080_10150985139518874_615094109_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 22 June, 2012, 10:36:07 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/538318_10150989653958874_977843856_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 23 June, 2012, 04:41:35 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198332_10150992196788874_1277598374_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Peter on 23 June, 2012, 05:03:24 pm
This thread is useless without words.

WW, is the bottom one Super-Mario?
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 23 June, 2012, 05:29:20 pm
yes that is super mario :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: red marley on 23 June, 2012, 05:36:53 pm
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601295_10150987460033874_1756656189_n.jpg)

Reminds me of the start of the Cotswold Corker.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 June, 2012, 11:25:36 pm
But no Woodbines!

Great photos though. I especially like the one which I presume is Paris-Roubaix, but they're all good.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: frankly frankie on 24 June, 2012, 11:17:27 am
I'm guessing Fleche Wallonne
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Gus on 24 June, 2012, 11:26:20 am
It's Koppenberg in Tour de Flandres.
Here is another good one from it :
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b231/gus69/theKoppenberg.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 June, 2012, 11:57:00 am
That's another great photo.^

But I was talking about this one:
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166080_10150985139518874_615094109_n.jpg)

I've no idea who the rider is, btw. I dare say that deserves a  :-[
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 24 June, 2012, 12:17:59 pm
sorry about the lack of words they are from  friend on facebook who sent them to me apart from that being super mario I am unsure of any of the other riders and time /place etc  obviously 2 of them are from the spring classics but which ones to be exact are your guess as good as mine ?
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 24 June, 2012, 12:19:16 pm
It's Koppenberg in Tour de Flandres.
Here is another good one from it :
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b231/gus69/theKoppenberg.jpg)
thanks guss :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Gus on 24 June, 2012, 12:43:22 pm
That's another great photo.^

But I was talking about this one:
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166080_10150985139518874_615094109_n.jpg)

I've no idea who the rider is, btw. I dare say that deserves a  :-[

A search on the web and I found the picture. It's Roger de Vlaeminck in Paris Roubaix. It must be taken between 1973-1977 when he rode on the Brooklyn team.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Ian H on 24 June, 2012, 02:23:27 pm
I think I recognise Drew Buck on the left.

Ian on the Hoylake photograph?

Yes...but...
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 25 June, 2012, 11:53:08 am
Thanks, Gus. Yes, I've actually heard of him!
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 02 July, 2012, 07:42:21 pm
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564145_10151013466133874_476761240_n.jpg) I do not know the year I am sure that is hinnault giving some protesters who were trying to stop the race a lesson in right hooks
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Rimnod on 02 July, 2012, 09:35:29 pm
I think I recognise Drew Buck on the left.

Ian on the Hoylake photograph?

Yes...but...

go on, you cannot leave it hanging..............
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Peter on 03 July, 2012, 01:02:18 am
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564145_10151013466133874_476761240_n.jpg) I do not know the year I am sure that is hinnault giving some protesters who were trying to stop the race a lesson in right hooks

Certainly looks like Hinault; he rode for that team which was a health-food company, I think.  I remember there was some kind of protest but Hinault's reaction looks pretty extreme;you could kill someone with a bare-knuckle punch like that and he certainly doesn't look as if he was doing it in self-defence.  Do you know what happened?
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: philip on 03 July, 2012, 01:56:29 am
It was the "La Vie Claire" team.

http://inrng.com/2012/03/the-story-of-the-hinault-photo/
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 03 July, 2012, 07:27:04 am
thanks for the link philip brilliant find  :thumbsup: hinault did not hesitate to throw the first punch  :D
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Ian H on 03 July, 2012, 08:09:48 am
Phil Anderson is the Panasonic rider.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Ian H on 03 July, 2012, 08:11:14 am
I think I recognise Drew Buck on the left.

Ian on the Hoylake photograph?

Yes...but...

go on, you cannot leave it hanging..............

(it was a joke. Even Drew isn't that old, though some of his bikes are)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 03 July, 2012, 05:25:52 pm
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/306669_10151015837968874_179640156_n.jpg) classic castelli they do not make ads like this anymore  ;D
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 03 July, 2012, 05:55:13 pm
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/306669_10151015837968874_179640156_n.jpg) classic castelli they do not make ads like this anymore  ;D

Well she certainly popped his cork.! :facepalm:
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Rimnod on 03 July, 2012, 09:01:25 pm
I think I recognise Drew Buck on the left.

Ian on the Hoylake photograph?

Yes...but...

go on, you cannot leave it hanging..............

(it was a joke. Even Drew isn't that old, though some of his bikes are)

 :)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Biff on 03 July, 2012, 09:08:25 pm
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564145_10151013466133874_476761240_n.jpg) I do not know the year I am sure that is hinnault giving some protesters who were trying to stop the race a lesson in right hooks

1984 Paris-Nice.  [nerd] The Safir rider in the background is Ronny Van Holen [/nerd]
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 July, 2012, 09:58:41 pm
^Possibly a rare occasion when the riders might have benefited from helmets!  :D
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Ray 6701 on 04 July, 2012, 12:32:31 pm
^Possibly a rare occasion when the riders spectators might have benefited from helmets!  :D

FTFY  ;D
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: welshwheels on 30 August, 2012, 08:45:17 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/199215_10151146399868874_1834870211_n.jpg)     


1984 PARIS / ROUBAIX  am I right in thinking that the first rider has bar end shifters ?
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 30 August, 2012, 08:48:34 pm
Yup, both of them. Common with sprinters because they could change gears with their hands on the bars in a tight bunch. Useful in cobbled classics too. There was life before STI-power brake levers.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Ian H on 30 August, 2012, 10:44:21 pm
Do I remember correctly that the disadvantage was that your rival could reach over and change your gears for you?
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 31 August, 2012, 06:03:48 am
Yes, it was harder to upshift an opponent with downtube levers.

Not sure how much of a problem that was in real life. I remember an early adopter of STI levers complaining that a particularly crowded sprint resulting in been downshifted while trying to get past somebody's bars. I suspect that was an excuse for not winning as that doesn't seem to be much of a problem nowadays.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: tatanab on 31 August, 2012, 08:49:41 am
Do I remember correctly that the disadvantage was that your rival could reach over and change your gears for you?
Yes, it was harder to upshift an opponent with downtube levers.
Bar end or downtube, changing gear unexpectedly for your clubmate was all part of the fun and games on clubruns in the 60s/70s.  I do recall a ride where one chap who had broken his collar bone so could not move his arm a great deal; he would drop back through the bunch to ask some trusted friend to change gear for him.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: anotherdeadhero on 31 August, 2012, 12:54:45 pm
The classic:
(http://bicycle-gifts.com/jpg/q45.jpg)

... and our attempt to recreate it ...
(http://audax.lvis.org.uk/Canvas.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: clarion on 02 September, 2012, 06:30:32 pm
Good work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: little miss mac on 02 September, 2012, 08:07:32 pm
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/600248_10150989643628874_891433020_n.jpg) 

(http://)

The goggles are awesome. Want.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: David Martin on 02 September, 2012, 11:09:59 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/7315941800_15992ef412_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/7315941800/)
PT_070 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/7315941800/) by davidmamartin (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidmam/), on Flickr

This one features a member of this parish. Whose name I happened to espy on a number of club trophies this last week. (50, 100 and BAR)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Peter on 02 September, 2012, 11:47:56 pm
David, the Zodiac makes it about late 60s.  Does it feature George?

edit: or Windy?  I'm not sure how old windy is!
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Torslanda on 13 September, 2012, 09:24:03 pm
The HC Viva estate plants it firmly in the 70s . . .
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Peter on 13 September, 2012, 10:11:14 pm
Could be; I wasn't sure if it might be an Avenger and didn't check.  But I toured Germany in a friend's Zodiac in the late 60s, so went for that.  It's probably still running!)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: clarion on 13 September, 2012, 10:28:43 pm
There's a Viva estate parked opposite TGL's college, so that photo might be from 2012! ;)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: sg37409 on 18 September, 2012, 11:00:27 pm
I came across this pic I'd saved. A quick google, and I couldnt find it. Excuse the crappy quality.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8322/8001124549_6b8f1d211f_b.jpg)
Link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24775321@N02/8001124549/in/photostream)
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 September, 2012, 11:08:40 pm
What's really odd about that is not that he was fixing his own punctures in what I presume was 1984(?) but that the race seems to be taking place at night.  :o
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: sg37409 on 19 September, 2012, 09:12:35 am
1990. The story went that someone in the crowd eventually gave him their own wheel. It might have been that stage where they pulled all his team mates out of the peleton to wait for him.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Peter on 19 September, 2012, 09:35:43 am
Sg, I had a look through the other pictures in your set.  It's a good collection; I particularly liked the black and white snow scenes and the Robert Frost!
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Rhys W on 19 September, 2012, 09:42:46 am
What's really odd about that is not that he was fixing his own punctures in what I presume was 1984(?) but that the race seems to be taking place at night.  :o

No, what's odd is where does he think he's going to get another tub from?
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: David Martin on 19 September, 2012, 10:05:06 am
David, the Zodiac makes it about late 60s.  Does it feature George?

edit: or Windy?  I'm not sure how old windy is!

70's. Neither George nor Windy, but George's sometime tandem partner Phil. I believe this is the Tour of the Grampians and the reason the road is so poor is because it was one long set of roadworks during resurfacing.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Peter on 19 September, 2012, 10:07:29 am
Thanks, David.  It's incredibly atmospheric.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 September, 2012, 10:12:34 am
What's really odd about that is not that he was fixing his own punctures in what I presume was 1984(?) but that the race seems to be taking place at night.  :o

No, what's odd is where does he think he's going to get another tub from?
It's on the ground behind the wheel.

Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Salvatore on 08 January, 2014, 10:33:40 am
Today's National Library of Ireland flickr photo is rather splendid.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2834/11833296283_4749986745_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11833296283/)
On a bicycle made for three (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11833296283/) by National Library of Ireland on The Commons (http://www.flickr.com/people/nlireland/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: otherdave on 08 January, 2014, 06:04:41 pm
David, the Zodiac makes it about late 60s.  Does it feature George?

edit: or Windy?  I'm not sure how old windy is!

70's. Neither George nor Windy, but George's sometime tandem partner Phil. I believe this is the Tour of the Grampians and the reason the road is so poor is because it was one long set of roadworks during resurfacing.

This was the the third stage of the 1971 Tour of Grampians Milk Race - (sponsors were Aberdeen Milk Marketing Board) it went from Ballater to Huntly over the Lecht and the Cabrach. There was something like 30 riders had flats and there weren't enough spare wheels to go round.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: clarion on 08 June, 2014, 08:48:16 pm
One from the Museum of London:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2918/14178624507_ded7caa3a8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nAVa6e)P6064930 (https://flic.kr/p/nAVa6e) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Although it's a bit hard to see, as I was shooting in low light, the only thing moving fast enough to have motion blur in the photo is, of course,the bike
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Canardly on 09 June, 2014, 09:19:09 pm
Today's National Library of Ireland flickr photo is rather splendid.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2834/11833296283_4749986745_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11833296283/)
On a bicycle made for three (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11833296283/) by National Library of Ireland on The Commons (http://www.flickr.com/people/nlireland/), on Flickr

The quality of that photo is something else.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 June, 2014, 09:55:13 pm
One from the Museum of London:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2918/14178624507_ded7caa3a8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nAVa6e)P6064930 (https://flic.kr/p/nAVa6e) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Although it's a bit hard to see, as I was shooting in low light, the only thing moving fast enough to have motion blur in the photo is, of course,the bike
Early evidence of the American industrial invasion: Goodrich and - that is a Domino's Pizza sign on the horse waggon, isn't it?  :D
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: andrewc on 07 August, 2017, 09:16:29 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGprdPBXcAAw5mf.jpg)


Seen on Twitter , a firefighters bike.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: LEE on 15 August, 2017, 03:43:55 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGprdPBXcAAw5mf.jpg)


Seen on Twitter , a firefighters bike.

Nah..just emergency Rim-Tape.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: matthew on 18 August, 2017, 10:45:27 am
Nowadays a crow bar in a holster like that would see a very different use entirely.
Title: Re: Old Photos
Post by: The French Tandem on 01 September, 2017, 08:41:38 am
Today's National Library of Ireland flickr photo is rather splendid.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2834/11833296283_4749986745_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11833296283/)
On a bicycle made for three (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11833296283/) by National Library of Ireland on The Commons (http://www.flickr.com/people/nlireland/), on Flickr

Splendid photo, indeed, but two details struck me:

1) The front chain is a bit slack,

2) Judging by the huge chainring, the machine was probably designed to ride at incredible speed!