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Re: Another daughter to uni thread..
« Reply #25 on: 29 September, 2012, 10:49:37 pm »
... As Dijkstra put it, computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. ...

Nice quote, I hadn't come across it before, but very true.

I'm not dissing the London universities - indeed, I very nearly went to Imperial, but chose Bristol on the basis that anything a simple tube journey from my parents was Too Close For Comfort. ...

Indeed, I didn't think you were, I just ploughed in with an additional comment on them.  I think it requires a certain type of student to be at a London University, since it's a quite different social environment.  Many more traditional universities have large campuses, which tend towards some degree of physical isolation from the surrounding neighbourhood (if not actually physically isolated anyway), whereas the London Universities seem to have more scattered accommodation, and can be spread out a bit more.

The Oxbridge universities are obviously also a fairly unique physical environment, and a lot more heritage (and thence bizarre traditions!) than most other universities in the country, especially the red brick ones, and the even more recent tranche of ex-polys.
Actually, it is rocket science.
 

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Re: Another daughter to uni thread..
« Reply #26 on: 29 September, 2012, 11:14:43 pm »
I think it requires a certain type of student to be at a London University, since it's a quite different social environment.  Many more traditional universities have large campuses, which tend towards some degree of physical isolation from the surrounding neighbourhood (if not actually physically isolated anyway), whereas the London Universities seem to have more scattered accommodation, and can be spread out a bit more.

This is very true.  Campus universities make extracurricular and social activities trivial compared to cities where accommodation, departmental and union facilities may be spread out.  If you're serious about sport or drama or whatever, this is worth bearing in mind, though of course you can end up cut off from the outside world (understandable where the outside world is Coventry, of course).

At Bristol I was walking about 5 miles a day just to attend lectures.  Going back down to the Union in the evening would double that (or involve equivalent amounts of waiting for buses), which is a significant time and energy overhead that isn't conducive to fitting the odd short meeting into a busy academic schedule.  The best approach would be to hang around in a computer room or wherever for an hour or two after lectures and get some work done, do the union stuff then head home later.  I barely managed to do any of the theatre stuff I signed up for, lost whole evenings to attending gigs, and only managed the rocket team because it was 90% engineering and physics students who were eager to do meetings over lunch or at the end of the day somewhere in the department.

My friends at London universities had this to an even greater degree.  It seemed common for social stuff to not start until relatively late in the evening, so that those who were commuting had time to go back to their accommodation before coming back out again.  If you lived really far out, this would leave you with several hours to kill with not very much going on.

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Re: Another daughter to uni thread..
« Reply #27 on: 30 September, 2012, 10:45:31 am »
Sheffield's fairly geographically compact, though not a campus university.
I didn't spend that much time travelling as a student (most of the small outlying hospitals have now closed anyway.) Engineering in Sheffield  is within walking distance of town, Students' Union and Library, though it's a mile or two to accommodation.
It's all pretty manageable.

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Re: Another daughter to uni thread..
« Reply #28 on: 30 September, 2012, 04:17:08 pm »
Sheffield's fairly geographically compact, though not a campus university.
I didn't spend that much time travelling as a student (most of the small outlying hospitals have now closed anyway.) Engineering in Sheffield  is within walking distance of town, Students' Union and Library, though it's a mile or two to accommodation.
It's all pretty manageable.

+1 for that.  Sheffield also has trams which are *shock horror* actually useful for getting to the university, if you can arrange your accommodation to be somewhere on the route ('trammable' is a local adjective).  Worked well for me when I was a dirty postgraduate, anyway.  (By then barakta and I were living down near the Granville Road tram stop, but most students tend to go for the Hillsborough direction, or sacrifice trammability for a shorter (if 'scenic') walk from Crookes or Walkley.)

It's also an utterly brilliant city to live in.  Big enough to be interesting, small enough to be manageable, and the peak district on the doorstep.  What's not to like?