Yet Another Cycling Forum
Off Topic => The Pub => Arts and Entertainment => Topic started by: ChrisO on 15 October, 2008, 05:16:23 pm
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I was listening to an interview with Will Young on Magic or Heart or one of those (I was in a taxi OK ?) and he was choosing his favourite tunes.
One of them was Fast Car by Tracy Chapman.. can't fault him for that. But he said "Everyone I knew had this album - it was one of those things you just had to have."
Which made me wonder...
You're in somebody's flat/house/cardboard box etc and while they slip into something more comfortable/put the kids to bed/fold their paper bags you browse their music collection.
What 10 albums or even just 10 artists would you expect to see that make you think this person has OK taste. Nothing too obscure.
I'll go with:
Protection - Massive Attack
Shame About Ray - Lemonheads
Island Life - Grace Jones
Woodface - Crowded House
Dookie - Green Day
Something by the Clash
Life's Rich Pageant or any early REM (pre Shiny f**king Happy People)
Anything by Abba
Play - Moby
Dummy - Portishead
I would probably also accept anything by Blondie or Parklife by Blur as alternatives to the above. And maybe Scissor Sisters.
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I've got something by ABBA somewhere. Other that that - zippo!!
I would expect EVERYONE to have Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits and Dark Side of the Moon by Floyd at the very least!
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For people of a certain age:
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Human League - Dare
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Any Radiohead album released after OK Computer
Queen's Greatest Hits (but no other Queen albums)
Any New Wave album
Anything by Chemical Brothers, Orbital, Underworld, Talking Heads, Massive Attack, Portishead
Miles Davis
Nothing by Faithless, Meat Loaf, The Scissor Sisters, Elton John, Wham (singles are OK), George Michael or anything that was produced by Stock, Aitken and Waterman
No girl/boy band albums
A live album
Very few compilations
Some proper hard rock or metal (not Def Leppard or The Darkness or any of that pish)
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Any Radiohead album released after OK Computer
Queen's Greatest Hits (but no other Queen albums)
Any New Wave album
Anything by Chemical Brothers, Orbital, Underworld, Talking Heads, Massive Attack, Portishead
Miles Davis
Nothing by Faithless, Meat Loaf, The Scissor Sisters, Elton John, Wham (singles are OK), George Michael or anything that was produced by Stock, Aitken and Waterman
No girl/boy band albums
A live album
Very few compilations
Some proper hard rock or metal (not Def Leppard or The Darkness or any of that pish)
Finally one I can agree with.
I can live up to all demands, including the + 300 heavy metal albums
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Dark Side of The Moon - Pink Floyd
Led Zepplin II or III - Led Zepplin
Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys
Dummy - Portishead
Sketches of Spain - Miles Davis
Decade - Neil Young
Anything by Towns Van Zandt
Anything by Richard Thompson
The Bends - Radio Head
Ten is too few. That's only two from each of the last five decades.
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This kind of shows the age you were buying music at, though, doesn't it? :)
For people of my age (30):
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pearl Jam - Ten (personally, I can't stand it, though)
Jesus and Mary Chain - Darklands
Pixies - Doolittle
Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust
Radiohead - The Bends
Blur - Parklife or Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Underworld - 2nd Toughest in the Infants
New Order - Technique
Arcade Fire - Funeral
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This kind of shows the age you were buying music at, though, doesn't it? :)
Some of us don't stop. What tends to happen is that your tastes either get ridiculously catholic or very specialised though. So you don't end up buying the everyone has them albums any more.
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Anything by Towns Van Zandt
I have never heard of him/her/them/it
I have never heard any of my friends, family or my family's friends mention him/her/them/it.
I would be surprised if 10% of people have anything in their collections by him/her/them/it.
Can you name a Towns Van Zandt album that was popular?
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For people of a certain age: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
... and Led Zep :( Not if you cut your teeth on punk ;)
But Ziggy Stardust, quite possibly 'yes'
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This kind of shows the age you were buying music at, though, doesn't it? :)
Some of us don't stop. What tends to happen is that your tastes either get ridiculously catholic or very specialised though. So you don't end up buying the everyone has them albums any more.
I've definitely slowed down, though. You also tend to buy stuff made before you were born / old enough to buy music. I also hear new bands and think "I heard that ten years ago, by somebody else!".
So, maybe a bit more discerning than when I was 18. Still buy 20 or 30 albums a year, though (down from 200 at one point!)
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Stars - Simply Red
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The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
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Anything by Towns Van Zandt
I have never heard of him/her/them/it
I have never heard any of my friends, family or my family's friends mention him/her/them/it.
I would be surprised if 10% of people have anything in their collections by him/her/them/it.
Can you name a Towns Van Zandt album that was popular?
Quite a lot of people have probably heard at least one song by Townes without realising it, especially if they have heard the Big Lebowski soundtrack which includes the song 'Dead Flowers'.
'Pancho and Lefty' and 'If I needed you' are some of his better known songs. He isn't that well known in the UK, especially if you don't like Country/American Folk/Bluegrass etc but has been very influential on other artists you may have heard of (in particular Steve Earle).
I came to him late so only have a collection CD rather than his albums. Great stuff though.
I guess he's in the list of artists you might recommend people to listen to, rather than expect them to own. Bit like Guy Clark or Lighting Hopkins.
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I have none of the albums on ChrisO's opening post.
I assume that everyone has the following
War of The Worlds
A Rolling Stones album
A Beatles album
Something by Queen
The Eagles
ZZ Top
Some Motown 60's stuff
Simon & Garfunkle
Van Morrison
Heavy/hard rock
As said above,your record collection will reflect your age
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It is very age related. Trying to avoid repetition - Pink Floyd, Queen, Led Zep, War of the Worlds etc. would have been there - I'd say (throwing in a couple of odd ones)
AC/DC - Back in Black / If You Want Blood You've Got It
Earth Wind and Fire - I Am
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
Kraftwerk - Computer World
Macc Lads - Beer & Sex & Chips & Gravy / From Beer to Eternity
Sky - Sky 2
Whitesnake - (something pre their 1987 embarrasing hair period)
Something classical on a good label (e.g. Decca, Deutsche Gramophone) rather than a bargain bucket recording
Something classic jazz - Louis Armstrong, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker...
Going back to the original question, I think a wide breadth of music would give me a better impression of the person than a collection that is very specialised or featuring just one type of music (e.g. only classical, or only thrash metal)
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Just ten....that's going to be hard (as the actress said to the Bishop)
Mother's Milk by Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Master of Puppets by Metallica
Joe's Garage by Frank Zappa
Grace Under Pressure by Rush
Stone Roses by Stone Roses
The Bends by Radiohead
Nothing Shocking by Janes Addiction
Get Up With it by Miles Davis
I Sing the Body Electric by Weather Report
Play By Moby
I could add loads more....
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Also:
Automatic For The People - REM
The Joshua Tree - U2
Led Zep IV
Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan
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I take it that we are talking vinyl here, those nasty little drinks coasters can't possibly count. A big stack of 12 inch LPs ought to be a feature of every house.
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Damon.
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Closer - Joy Division
No Teacher No Mystic No Guru - Van Morrison
Joshua Tree - U2
DSOM - PF
Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
My Life in the Bush of Ghosts -Eno Byrne
Pornography - The Cure
Dig your own hole - Chemical Brothers
The Undertones - The Undertones
Fear of Music - Talking Heads
It'll End in Tears - This Mortal Coil
New Gold Dream - Simple Minds
Metal Box - Public Image
The Fat of the Land - Prodigy
Dummy - Portishead
Nadir's Big Chance - Peter Hammill
Orbivion - The Orb
Insides - Orbital
Orblivion with Bells - Underworld
There, I think that's 10. :)
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U2 & Fleetwood Mac :thumbsup: I concur
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Anything by Towns Van Zandt
I have never heard of him/her/them/it
I have never heard any of my friends, family or my family's friends mention him/her/them/it.
I would be surprised if 10% of people have anything in their collections by him/her/them/it.
Can you name a Towns Van Zandt album that was popular?
No, none of them really were. As has been said he was massively influential though. I know quite a lot of people with some of his albums he's not that obscure. Loads of people have covered his stuff including Bob Dylan, Robert Plant, Allison Krauss, Norah Jones and Emmylou Harris. Having an album by Townes or someone like him in any genre is a sign of someone who knows a genre reasonably well and the roots of it. The obvious example another genres would be say the MC5 for punk.
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The OP said something about 'showing you have OK taste'.
I'm afraid any Moby and Scissor Sisters would be an instant 'No taste' signal for me!
But I'm pleased to see no-one's mentioned Dido yet. :P
While I'm at it I'd scratch Woodface by Crowded House and replace it with Crowded House or Together Alone
War of the Worlds
Ooooooooo-laaaaaaa! :D
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Closer - Joy Division
No Teacher No Mystic No Guru - Van Morrison
Joshua Tree - U2
DSOM - PF
Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
My Life in the Bush of Ghosts -Eno Byrne
Pornography - The Cure
Dig your own hole - Chemical Brothers
The Undertones - The Undertones
Fear of Music - Talking Heads
It'll End in Tears - This Mortal Coil
New Gold Dream - Simple Minds
Metal Box - Public Image
The Fat of the Land - Prodigy
Dummy - Portishead
Nadir's Big Chance - Peter Hammill
Orbivion - The Orb
Insides - Orbital
Orblivion with Bells - Underworld
There, I think that's 10. :)
This Mortal Coil....completely forgot about them...love this band to bits.
How could I have forgotten about The Orb. The album "A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From the Centre of the Ultraworld" was in my car for years, as it contained the brilliant track Little Fluffy Clouds.
And Talking Heads...what a great band.
This is why ten albums is just not enough.
Some great albums listed here Jaded....top marks ;)
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Trout Mask Replica - Captain Beefheart
A Love Supreme - John Coltrane
Umm...
Now I have to think.
Third - Soft Machine
A Kind of Blue - Miles Davis
Made in Japan - Deep Purple
Led Zep 1
Liege and Lief - Faiport Convention
Gentleman - Fela Kuti (anything by him really)
The Night - Morphine
Electric Ladyland - Jimi Hendrix
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I could pick and choose a few only in the list so far from Metallica, Hendrix, Led Zep. But where's DP? Satriani? And many others...
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Beethoven's piano concerti, symphonies & violin concerto, as well as a lot of string quartets & piano sonatas.
A good selection of Mozart symphonies, concerti & quartets.
Similar for Haydn.
Bach's Brandenburg Concerti & Violin Concerti, selected preludes & fugues.
Handel's Messiah.
Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique.
Mussorgski (arr. Ravel) Picures at an Exhibition
Bartok Concerto for Orchestra, Music for Strings, Percussion & Celeste.
Ian Dury, "New Boots & Panties."
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Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express, The Man Machine & Radioactivity
Queen - A Night at the Opera, A Day at the Races & The Works
War of the Worlds
Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene & Equinoxe
Pink Floyd - DSotM, Wish You Were Here, Animals & The Wall
. . . and if you are my age then you've got them all on vinyl
luv'n'stuff
J
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What 10 albums or even just 10 artists would you expect to see that make you think this person has OK taste. Nothing too obscure.
This part of your post got me thinking about OK taste.
I have great taste (obviously) and I agreed with several of the choices on your list.
Then I went for a pea (standing up, not mushy, garden etc) and compiled a mental list of 10.
After washing my hands (again obviously) I read the other posts.
10 isn't enough. It's not even close.
I would want:-
Madchester- 1 each from Joy Division/New Order/Smiths/Happy Mondays
Led Zep
Pink Floyd
Sonic Youth
Moby
Massive Attack
REM
Abba
Fleetwood Mac
Wu Tang Clan
Kraftwerk
Talking Heads
Radiohead
Mazzy Star
Cocteau Twins
The Orb
Kate Bush
Neil Young
Morphine
Public Enemy
And on and on.
The beauty (or curse) of modern technology is that we can have our record collections in a small box that we can take everywhere.
Nothing will replace the joy of an LP or 12" on an LP12 played through a decent system but a CD or hard drive copy of the same album played through a decent car stereo on a "great drive" will come close. Maybe.
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I think it may depend on your (or my) age.
Beatles - Sgt Pepper
Dire Straits - Brothers in arms
The Eagles - Greatest Hits
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Meatloaf - Bat out of hell
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pink Floyd - Dark side of the moon
Queen - Geatest Hits
Simon & Garfunkel - Bridge over troubled water
Got all of them bar Meatloaf! :thumbsup:
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I tried to come up with a short list, and just gave up... ;D
However, I would be suitably approving if I spotted any of the following in the CD rack:
AC/DC (pre-Back In Black)
Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits*/Rumours
Hawkwind
INXS - Listen Like Thieves/Kick
Carole King - Tapestry
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III (Led Zep 1, 2, 4 and Physical Graffiti are too obvious ;) )
Leftfield - Leftism
Tom Lehrer
Magnum
Alannah Myles
Queen - albums other than the greatest hits compilations, Sheer Heart Attack especially.
Rush
Joe Satriani
Van Halen - particularly the first album
Yello - You Gotta Say Yes To Another Excess/Stella
Frank Zappa
ZZ Top - Tres Hombres/Deguello
* The one that contains material from the bluesy Peter Green period rather than the AOR-style one that was released after Tango In the Night
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The ones I would assume everyone has would be so mediocre that they wouldn't be worth listening to, as someone once said to me (and I am certain it was a re-cycled quote) "To be truely popular you need to be truely mediocre".
But, for experience, the albums everyone seems to have are(note these are not ones I think are good, just ones that it seems everyone has!):
Gabrielle - Rise
Chris Isaak - Blue Hotel (or Chris Isaak, usually bought by mistake thinking it has Blue Hotel on it, it doesn't!)
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Morcheeba - Big Calm
Metallica - The Black Album (or ...And Justice For All)
Kings Of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak
ABBA - Greatest Hits
Any PondWestlife album
An album by a previous X-Factor contestant, winner or not (Leona, Ben, Will Young etc etc)
Ones they SHOULD have:
Led Zep IV
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Live - Throwing Copper
fireHose - fromOhio
Kings of Leon - Youth and Young Manhood
Modest Mouse - Baron Von Bullshit Rides Again
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The ones I would assume everyone has would be so mediocre that they wouldn't be worth listening to, as someone once said to me (and I am certain it was a re-cycled quote) "To be truely popular you need to be truely mediocre".
But, for experience, the albums everyone seems to have are(note these are not ones I think are good, just ones that it seems everyone has!):
Gabrielle - Rise
Chris Isaak - Blue Hotel (or Chris Isaak, usually bought by mistake thinking it has Blue Hotel on it, it doesn't!)
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Morcheeba - Big Calm
Metallica - The Black Album (or ...And Justice For All)
Kings Of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak
ABBA - Greatest Hits
Any PondWestlife album
An album by a previous X-Factor contestant, winner or not (Leona, Ben, Will Young etc etc)
Ones they SHOULD have:
Led Zep IV
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Live - Throwing Copper
fireHose - fromOhio
Kings of Leon - Youth and Young Manhood
Modest Mouse - Baron Von Bullshit Rides Again
The only one I have of those lists is Fear of Black Planet, and I am the only person I know who has that...
I think all this exercise shows is that there are no albums that everybody should have, and that it is pretty difficult to predict what people do have.
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I think all this exercise shows is that there are no albums that everybody should have, and that it is pretty difficult to predict what people do have.
Quoted for truth. :thumbsup:
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I think all this exercise shows is that there are no albums that everybody should have, and that it is pretty difficult to predict what people do have.
Quoted for truth. :thumbsup:
Although I wholeheartedly agree with that statement, I'm going to list some of my favourite albums (one's I'd grab if there was a fire) for the hell of it because if saw them in somebody else's music collection, I'd know we had something in common and could probably get along. Any major presence of the likes of Dire Straights (dire being the operative word), Oasis, the Eagles....well, I'd be heading for the door! Some of these have been listed previously....
Daydream Nation - Sonic Youth
Magnolia Electric Company - Songs Ohia
I See A Darkness - Bonnie Prince Billy
You're Living All Over Me - Dinosaur Jr
Workbook - Bob Mould
The Infinite - Dave Douglas
Seven Black Butterflies - Drew Gress
Feast of Wire - Calexico
Doolittle - Pixies
Flying the Flannel - firehose
Holst - The Planets
I know I'll think of several more as soon as I hit "post".
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I suppose my take on the OP would be along the lines of:
Beatles - Sgt Pepper
Pink Floyd - DSOTM
Rolling Stones - EOMS
The Who - Tommy or the live album
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On?
Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Led Zep - any of them
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Simon & Garfunkle - BOTW
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Or something similar to Road Runner & Alan's lists.
Personally, I own nothing from my list above (& little, if anything, from RR & Alan's lists) and rate DSOM as the most over-rated album I've heard...
My 'classics' list would be along the lines of:
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
Boards of Canada - Music Has The Right To Children
Cabaret Voltaire - The Crackdown
Cocteau Twins - Treasure or Victorialand
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Pale Saints - Comforts Of Madness (or My Bloody Valentine - Loveless)
Portishead - Dummy
Shriekback - Jam Science
Stone Roses - Stone Roses
Tricky - Maximquaye
Plus stuff by: The Smiths/New Order/PWEI/Jesus & Mary Chain/Muslimgauze/Godspeed YBE
YMMV by quite a lot ;D
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I suppose my take on the OP would be along the lines of:
Godspeed YBE
YMMV by quite a lot ;D
God Speed You Black Emperor...good to find someone else who likes them. I posted Hastings on my Facebook page ages ago. Brilliant group!
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The only one I have of those lists is Fear of Black Planet, and I am the only person I know who has that...
I've got Fear of a Dark Planet by Porcupine Tree. Is that close?
And another appreciator of GSYBE here.
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The only one I have of those lists is Fear of Black Planet, and I am the only person I know who has that...
And another appreciator of GSYBE here.
:thumbsup:
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The only one I have of those lists is Fear of Black Planet, and I am the only person I know who has that...
I've got Fear of a Dark Planet by Porcupine Tree. Is that close?
And another appreciator of GSYBE here.
The title track of Fear of a Blank Planet is excellent. I haven't heard the rest of the album.
Another fan of GSYBE here.
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Good to see there are a few GSYBE fans on the forum :thumbsup:
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Another fan of GSYBE here.
Same here... and Boards of Canada, Mogwai, Boredoms...
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What I would expect everyone to have?
Well, I'll name artists and put the obvious choice where applicable, in (brackets)
An * means that I don't have it/them, but expect everyone else to and think it's good myself.
Jimmi Hendrix
Black Sabbath (Ozzy Osbourne, but not Technical Ecstacy or Never Say Die)
Pink Floyd (Dark Side of the Moon/The Wall*)
The Beatles
Elvis*
Sex Pistols (Never Mind the Bollocks)
The Doors
Steely Dan
Barclay James Harvest (Everyone is Everybody Else)
Madness (One Step Beyond)
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Another fan of GSYBE here.
Same here... and Boards of Canada, Mogwai, Boredoms...
Yet another Godspeed fan here. Plus the others - except The Boredoms. Though they ring a bell. Is that the band which consists entirely of drummers?
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Another fan of GSYBE here.
Same here... and Boards of Canada, Mogwai, Boredoms...
Hadn't heard of Boards of Canada before, so just checked them out on Youtube. Wow, I'm really impressed...they're really good.
I've got some Mogawai stuff already, but will check out the Boredoms in due course.
Maybe it's time someone mentioned Sigur Ros.
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Another fan of GSYBE here.
Same here... and Boards of Canada, Mogwai, Boredoms...
Hadn't heard of Boards of Canada before, so just checked them out on Youtube. Wow, I'm really impressed...they're really good.
I've got some Mogawai stuff already, but will check out the Boredoms in due course.
Maybe it's time someone mentioned Sigur Ros.
BOC are brilliant.
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Another fan of GSYBE here.
Same here... and Boards of Canada, Mogwai, Boredoms...
Hadn't heard of Boards of Canada before, so just checked them out on Youtube. Wow, I'm really impressed...they're really good.
I've got some Mogawai stuff already, but will check out the Boredoms in due course.
Maybe it's time someone mentioned Sigur Ros.
Yeah, Sigur Ros are rubbish :hand: ;D
Boards of Canada - there's a record shop in Stockton which, the last time I was in, still had the triple vinyl version of Geogaddi. Damn, it was tempting.
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Um...
Most folk I've known have had, inter alia:
War of the Worlds
Dark Side of the Moon
Tracy Chapman
Simon & Garfunkel compilation of some kind
Stop Making Sense
Are You Experienced?
Abba Gold
Bob Marley compilation
ZZ Top - most Eliminator but some Deguello
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In no particular order
Blonde on Blonde
Moondance
Live Rust
Murmur
Dark Side of The Moon
Things We Lost in the Fire
Moon Safari
London Calling
Exodus
Blue
Actually I wouldn't expect people to have some of the above but they should!!!
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[Yet another Godspeed fan here. Plus the others - except The Boredoms. Though they ring a bell. Is that the band which consists entirely of drummers?
Crazy Japanese art-noise mentalists... I have a certain tolerance for things at the drone / noise / experimental end of the spectrum. So Boredoms, Sunburned Hand of the Man, Vibracathedral Orchestra, Lightning Bolt, Sunn 0))), Earth...
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God Speed You Black Emperor...good to find someone else who likes them. I posted Hastings on my Facebook page ages ago. Brilliant group!
Got F#A#∞ playing right now :thumbsup:
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Wot, nobody got Triangular bells (apart from jaded)?
We also seem to be missing that Carly Simon Album, you know, the one with the nipples.
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Wot, nobody got Triangular bells (apart from jaded)?
We also seem to be missing that Carly Simon Album, you know, the one with the nipples.
No Secrets?
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Talking of nipples, I forgot:
Patti Smith - either Easter or Horses (or both)
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No mention of Tom Waits, yet? How about Closing Time for starters?
Then there is Johnny Cash?
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Since even I have Dark Side of the Moon, I can't believe that many people don't. Except my sister, obviously :).
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Obviously ;D
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Since even I have Dark Side of the Moon, I can't believe that many people don't. Except my sister, obviously :).
I don't. I don't like the Floyd at all. I have every Queen album though, and most of the solo stuff.
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There has to be a scientific way of doing this. We have to imagine inheriting a stack of records from a deceased relative, what albums would they have and which of those albums would we not take down to the charity shop. Obviously this would depend on taste and age of the deceased. Here are a few I can imagine keeping.
1950s. Songs for Swingin' Lovers, Frank Sinatra.
1960s. Revolver , The Beatles.
1970s. Carpenters, The Singles. Solely for the Guitar Solo on 'Goodbye to love.'
1980s Thriller, Michael Jackson.
1990s Pulp, Different Class.
2000s Norah Jones, Come away with me.
All based purely on the likelihood of them having the record and me not getting rid of it.
Damon.
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Despite the confusing thread title, the OP stated:
What 10 albums or even just 10 artists would you expect to see that make you think this person has OK taste. Nothing too obscure.
So owning Norah Jones or Thriller or DSOM would, IMHO, show that the owner was something of a sheep rather than having good taste.
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Despite the confusing thread title, the OP stated:
What 10 albums or even just 10 artists would you expect to see that make you think this person has OK taste. Nothing too obscure.
So owning Norah Jones or Thriller or DSOM would, IMHO, show that the owner was something of a sheep rather than having good taste.
OOhh get her!
Other Albums I have kept,
Solid Air, John Martyn.
Pretzel Logic, Steely Dan.
Sheet Music, 10cc.
Cupid and Psyche, Scritti Politti.
There was other stuff which would have reminded me of their individual tastes, but they would have stayed in their sleeves forever. Ozark Mountain Daredevils anyone?
Damon.
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Ooh i forgot Pretzel Logic. The intro to the first track "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" justifies the cost of buying a decent record player, amp and speakers. It just sounds so liquid on analogue equipment.
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I keep meaning to use 'Night by Night' for a PBP Montage.
Damon.
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Other Albums I have kept,
Solid Air, John Martyn.
Pretzel Logic, Steely Dan.
Sheet Music, 10cc.
Cupid and Psyche, Scritti Politti.
Damon.
That's more like it. Those choices show some discernment even though they're not my cup of tea. Cupid and Psyche is fantastically produced but the songs (other than the obvious singles) are quite weak.
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Other ubiquitous albums of yore which didn't make the Manotea platter because I am a man of supreme refinement and taste were
Supertramp - Breakfast in America (Ghastly)
Genesis - Lamb laid down on Broadway (Pretentious Clap-Trap)
ELO - Out of the Blue (Awful)
Though somehow I seem to have a copy of
Tom Robinson Band - Power in the Darkness (Right On)
(Hangs Head In Shame. I think I only paid 50p for it in a sale but still...)
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My copies of 'Trout Mask Replica', 'Soft Machine Third', 'Cry Tuff Dub Encounter Part 2' and 'Let It Be', by Laibach will all be down the Oxfam Shop when I snuff it, and from there to some recycling facility.
'Court and Spark' by Joni Mitchell and 'Abraxas' by Santana will make the cut I think. 'New Boots and Panties' by Ian Dury and the Blockheads is on the cusp.
Damon.
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I have just found out that there is a copy of Cry Tuff Dub Encounter Part 2 for sale on E bay for £29.99, I'll be back after a bit of research.
Damon.
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Power in the Darkness is cool.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevils anyone?
Wah and, moreover, spook! I have just finished reading a book by a chap who owns a motorcycle yclept Jackie Blue.
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Hmm just OK taste, (not excellent, quirky, individual...) and not too obscure.
So, for the 60s and seventies I'd expect to see some of:
The White Album
Surrealistic Pillow
did someone say Pet Sounds (yes thay did)
John Barleycorn Must Die
Liege and Lief
Woodstock
Axis - Bold as Love/Electric Ladyland
Sweetheart of the Rodeo
Blue/For the Roses
Countdown to Ecstasy
Horses
Marquee Moon
Exodus/Natty Dread/Catch a Fire
For Pence and Spicy Ale
London Calling
Soft Machine III
Another Green Planet
Peter Gabriel period Genesis
Meddle
What's Goin' On
Led Zep (any)
Ry Cooder (any)
Sam Cooke
James Brown
Aretha
Otis
and the following would result in banishment from the Hall of OK Taste:
Abbey Road
Anything by the Doobie Bothers or the Eagles
most records by ye Pink Floyd
post - Gabriel Genesis
Carps
Tapestry
Sweet Baby James
Rumors
albums of JJ Cale
...
Lo! and let they be deemed obscurantist lest they possess:
well, that's tough one...I'd always strive for good but obscure....on the basis that there's little point in searching out stuff you've heard before...
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Ok, I'll play the game.
Of what I own, what I would quite legitimately expect most middle class men of a certain age to have:
a Nick Drake album
something by Talking Heads
ChangesBowie or Ziggy Stardust
some Miles Davis
a bit of Neil Young
Forever Changes by Love
and something by the Penguin Cafe Orchestra
and if a past girlfriend was into it, Blue by Joni Mitchell...
If they were (or wanted to appear more open-minded, they might also have some old school hip hop, particularly:
A Tribe Called Quest,
De La Soul's 3ft High and Rising
something by Public Enemy
Ill Communication or Paul's Boutique by The Beastie Boys.
If they were in their musical youth in the late eighties, early nineties, they probably also have:
some trip-hop like Portishead, Massive Attack, Tricky, or Morcheeba (if their girlfriend left it with them);
perhaps Bjork's first or second album;
Pixies' Surfer Rosa;
the first Stone Roses album;
Blur's Parklife
and the first or secondOasis album.
(They probably did own some more embarassing Madchester / Britpop albums like James, The Farm, Sleeper or Echobelly, but they left them at university or something)...
and so on...
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Considering how many copies it sold at the time, it surprises me that nobody now admits to having heard it (or wants to hear it again after being enlightened :()
The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hangman%27s_Beautiful_Daughter)
I still love it!
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No one's mentioned Bruce Springsteen
+1 for Born to Run, Nebraska, Darkness on the Edge of Town or Tunnel Of Love
-2 for Born in the USA
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The problem here is that all this is too blokey, what we really need is a list of 10 records which the kind of partner we are out to attract would consider desireable in a companion. This rarely includes anything featuring Robert Wyatt or anything by Kraftwerk.
Damon.
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No one's mentioned Bruce Springsteen
Or Kate Bush:
Surely everyone has Hounds of Love?
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I have all her albums.
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A list of ten records which reveal a 'bunny boiler' might be useful. Leonard Cohen and Nick Drake would be fairly high on my list.
Damon.
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The problem here is that all this is too blokey, what we really need is a list of 10 records which the kind of partner we are out to attract would consider desireable in a companion. This rarely includes anything featuring Robert Wyatt or anything by Kraftwerk.
Damon.
The Hissing of Summer Lawns, Hejira, Blue or just about anything by Joni would demonstrate one is a bloke with a sensitive arty side, in fact, a veritable chick magnet!
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I've got all the Joni Mitchell albums too but unfortunately I have never been a babe magnet. Maybe the Hawkwind albums cancelled Joni out ...
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I think our album collections come way down the list of what potential partners look for in a bloke.
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I wouldn't go out er... have gone out with anyone that required me to listen to Nick Drake.
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I think our album collections come way down the list of what potential partners look for in a bloke.
If ones lady friend is so superficial to judge one on ones album collection then is says more about her that it does you.
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I think our album collections come way down the list of what potential partners look for in a bloke.
I made a very good female friend at university. The first time we met I was blasting out "Filthpig" by Ministry with the door open. She wandered past and inquired "What is that horrible music?". She still talks to me all these years later* but she won't listen to Ministry.
* only on the phone, sadly. :(
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There you are on the sofa, things are looking good, then you spot the complete works of Tori Amos and Alanis Morrisette. :hand:
Damon.
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I havnt trawled through this thread so forgive any duplications
Harvest Neil Young
Led Zep 2
Gracelands Paul Simon
Bridge over troubled Water Simon and carbunkle
Revolver The Beatles
Moondance Van M
Rumours Fleetwood Mac
Dark Side of the Moon Pink Floyd
Blue Joni
Let it Bleed The Rolling Stones
Every Picture tell a Story Rod Stewart
Hounds of Love Kate Bush
Automatic for the People REM
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Hell I almost forgot everyone should have some Lowell George. Perhaps Little Feat's Dixie Chicken would do.
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A list of ten records which reveal a 'bunny boiler' might be useful. Leonard Cohen and Nick Drake would be fairly high on my list.
Damon.
From my experience potential indicative Bunny Boiler music includes:
Nick Drake
Jeff Buckley
Tim Buckley
Ozric Tentacles
Tori Amos
Leonard Cohen
Radiohead
Kangaroo Moon
Joni
Alanis
Michelle Shocked
Suzanne Vega
Cat Power
Self produced CD of her own music. Very nasal, badly sung music that you criticise or even comment on positively at peril of your life (or at least your willy)*
There's nothing wrong with any of the above artists (well ok, some of them) but together they form a critical mass that says 'Insane Australian Hippy Busker Girl Who Will Spend The Entire Relationship Explaining Why Men are Evil While Nonetheless Shagging Loads Of Them Behind Your Back'**. Maybe that's just me?
*The question "What do you think of this?" is in fact a trick question, or more of a statement of how wrong you are about to be. There is no correct answer other than running away screaming "Leave me alone you f*cking looney!".
** I wish I had said after the relationship ended "For someone who professes to hate men, you seem to shag an awful lot of them"
Edit: Maybe that should have been in the Rant thread. Sorry...
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Spoken with some authority there, it's the 'Joan of Arc Syndrome' though, we see the video of Sinead O' Connor and we're drawn like moths to a flame. All the warning signs are there, but do we see them? No.
Damon.
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I'd be interested to hear from the other side on this one, what are the records which shout needy and clingy partner.
Damon.
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There's only one must-have album in the world:
Kind of Blue - Miles Davis
Following as 'should haves':
Head Hunters - Herbie Hancock
Take Five - Dave Brubeck.
In my not so humble opinion, these 3 albums has done more for developing modern music than any other albums you can possibly mention :)
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....and can I add that the drumming on "Headhunters" is one of the wonders of the Modern World.
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....and can I add that the drumming on "Headhunters" is one of the wonders of the Modern World.
I have actually never paid much attention to it, but will use it as an excuse for doing so right now!
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Absolutely relaxed, absolutely on the beat, never too much, never not enough.
Nobody else could have done the job.
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I have actually never paid much attention to it
Indeed - it doesn't draw attention to itself, but when the band toured here in <whenever>, the place was full of drummers watching Harvey Mason, trying to work out how he played the title track. It doesn't sound like much, but ask a drummer to do it..........
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Just been watching Seb Rochford - I bet he'd have a good bash at it.
Sorry drifting OT there.
Which reminds me - why has no-one mentioned Acoustic Ladyland?
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Which reminds me - why has no-one mentioned Acoustic Ladyland?
Probably because most people would say 'who?' - they aren't exactly world famous. This is, after all about albums you'd expect people to have. I don't think I'd expect very many people to have anything by them any more than I'd expect them to own Locust Abortion Technician! :)
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Good to see some Steely Dan mentioned.
One which I probably should have had on my list was Wings, Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound. I'd go for Venus and Mars. I've liked that since I was 4 years old.
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....and can I add that the drumming on "Headhunters" is one of the wonders of the Modern World.
The Headhunters were Herbie Hancock's backing band, they went on to have a hit with 'God Made Me Funky, A 9 minute plus track which starts with a much sampled drum part and proceeds into a bit of a free form treated sax breakdown in the middle. I managed to shoehorn part of it into a video about PBP 2003 at 2 minutes 24.
YouTube - Shap and PBP intro. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aPyYn0aRrEo)
Damon.
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The famous bass riff from Deee-Lite's "Groove Is In The Heart" is nicked from Herbie Hancock's "Bring Down The Birds".
YouTube - Blow Up (1966) Bring Down the Birds (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1foayJLtUDc)
The oddest example of borrowing a riff/melody I know of is Right Said Fred's "I'm Too Sexy", which takes its instrumental riff from Jimi Hendrix' "Third Stone From The Sun", a very odd psychedelic track.
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The riff to 'Ricky don't Lose that number' is a well known Jazz piece, but not well known by me :-[ It is of course one of two well known songs about bass players leaving bands the other being?
Damon.
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The riff to 'Ricky don't Lose that number' is a well known Jazz piece, but not well known by me :-[ It is of course one of two well known songs about bass players leaving bands the other being?
Damon.
The keyboard riff was taken from "Song For My Father," which was released in 1964 by Jazz composer and pianist Horace Silver.
I googled it here (http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=3204) as I'm not that clever
Is the other song Empty Apartment by Yellowcard? Again Google is may be my friend
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A few that I don't think have been mentioned but I thought everyone had*
King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King
Lindisfarne - Fog on the Tyne
Caravan - In the land of grey and pink
Warren Zevon - Excitable boy
Curved Air - Air conditioning
Pogues - If I should fall from grace with god
Sky - Sky1
oh and that awful Bryan Ferry album with the In crowd on it
* Everyone of a certain age obviously
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* Everyone of a certain age obviously
You tellin me, grandpa...
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* Everyone of a certain age obviously
You tellin me, grandpa...
I dunno - youth of today don't have no respect ;D
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Core - Stone Temple Pilots
Back in the day they kicked ass but then they blew it.
On drugs mostly.
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A list of ten records which reveal a 'bunny boiler' might be useful. Leonard Cohen and Nick Drake would be fairly high on my list.
That would explain a great deal. TWFKAML is shortly going all the way to Hamburg to see Leonard Cohen...
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A list of ten records which reveal a 'bunny boiler' might be useful. Leonard Cohen and Nick Drake would be fairly high on my list.
That would explain a great deal. TWFKAML is shortly going all the way to Hamburg to see Leonard Cohen...
In the interests of balance I canvassed a few female opinions as a counterpart to the 'bunny boiler' list.
If a wistful look comes into his eyes during 'I'm not in love', 'Without You' or 'Everybody's got to learn sometime', this is not a good sign. Likewise a preponderance of albums by Supertramp or The Smiths is not likely to lead to a trouble free romance. I have no idea what the equivalents are for those under 40.
Damon.
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I would look on a Smiths album or two as a good sign.
The rest ? Run away.
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I have no idea what the equivalents are for those under 40.
Damon.
Of course the 'I'm not in love' for the 21st Century; 'Dry your eyes mate' by The Streets, we've got the makings of 'Now That's what I call Wimpish Vol 1'.
Damon.
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The famous bass riff from Deee-Lite's "Groove Is In The Heart" is nicked from Herbie Hancock's "Bring Down The Birds".
YouTube - Blow Up (1966) Bring Down the Birds (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1foayJLtUDc)
The oddest example of borrowing a riff/melody I know of is Right Said Fred's "I'm Too Sexy", which takes its instrumental riff from Jimi Hendrix' "Third Stone From The Sun", a very odd psychedelic track.
Verve used an Orchestral version of "The Last Time" by the Rolling Stones on "Bittersweet Symphony" but, having said that, the Stones nicked the song from "The Staple Singers" (a 1950's Gospel group).
I sense a new thread
PS. RZ, "Groove is in the Heart" is one of my all-time favourite songs, thanks for the Herbie Hancock info, I love the original now as well.
Another good piece of 'riff theft' from a great song to make another great song is taking "Toots and the Maytals' "- "54-46 Was My Number", increasing the BPM and coming up with "Double Trouble And Rebel MC" - "Street Tuff"
I think Mylene Klaas has sampled Beethoven on some of her albums as well.
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These borrowings sometimes go the opposite way to what you might expect, as when James Brown used the riff from 'Fame' by David Bowie for this track. YouTube - James Brown-Hot I Need To Be Loved Loved Loved (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YKb-N2XYNQ0)
Damon.
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Verve used an Orchestral version of "The Last Time" by the Rolling Stones on "Bittersweet Symphony" but, having said that, the Stones nicked the song from "The Staple Singers" (a 1950's Gospel group).
I sense a new thread
The Staples singers were not above borrowing the intro from,
YouTube - Harry J Allstars - Liquidator (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SdAcG24iI_w)
for
YouTube - The Staple Singers - I'll Take You There (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvKRZRofDE)
I'm also liking this video.
YouTube - Harry J All Stars: Liquidator (1969 Reggae Classic Trojan Records) (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TRp75slMFII)
Damon.
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Its not mainstream though it is excellant.
Madvilllain AKA Madlib / MC Doom
Madvillain - Madvillainy (Vinyl, LP, Album) at Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/Madvillain-Madvillainy/release/242785)
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Likewise a preponderance of albums by Supertramp or The Smiths is not likely to lead to a trouble free romance.
Ah, bugger.
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Nice bit of thread necromancy, 'twas quite interesting and amusing to read this again.
I'd be interested to hear from the other side on this one, what are the records which shout needy and clingy partner.
Damon.
Dido
Coldplay
James Blunt
Any "emo" in the music collection is possibly a warning sign as well. :demon: