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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #75 on: 29 May, 2015, 06:40:09 pm »
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And Blatter gets another massive majority !
Unbelievable.
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #76 on: 29 May, 2015, 06:42:27 pm »
Over on F1 journalist Joe Sawrd's blog the possibility has been motted of an Investigation into the governance of F1 under the EU's anti-monopoly legislation.  I have suggested that a USAnian-led investigation migjt be the way forward with the bonus of raising public awareness of the sport Over There.

Bonus points if they could get it fronted by Norman Schwarzkopf, Chuck Norris or Alice Cooper.

Joe Saward is a complete tool and it's far from the first time that this has been brought up.

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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #77 on: 29 May, 2015, 07:07:02 pm »
I can just imagine the conversation in a few years time.

Gregg Dyke:  I think Europe should boycott the next world cup.

Michel Platini:  Well, that's easy for you to say, seeing as you didn't qualify.
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #78 on: 29 May, 2015, 10:21:29 pm »
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/29/corruption-fifa-blatter

I find Marina Hyde to be one of the most entertaining and insightful commentators. I wonder how correct that comparison will prove to be.
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #79 on: 29 May, 2015, 10:28:59 pm »
And Blatter gets another massive majority !
Unbelievable.
Oh no! Entirely believable.

Didn't you hear why it couldn't be postponed? The votes had already been paid for.
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #80 on: 29 May, 2015, 10:34:57 pm »
He did not get another massive majority. It was on its way to another vote.
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #81 on: 29 May, 2015, 10:44:16 pm »
He was only a handful of votes away from it not needing to go to a second round though, and then Prince Wotsisface withdrew.

I cannot quite see the logic of requiring a second vote in an election with only two candidates, but then I became mayor without any of this tedious "democracy" nonse.
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #82 on: 30 May, 2015, 06:38:23 am »
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/29/corruption-fifa-blatter

I find Marina Hyde to be one of the most entertaining and insightful commentators. I wonder how correct that comparison will prove to be.

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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #83 on: 30 May, 2015, 07:01:04 am »
In the UK we tend to see this as a story about corruption and rigging of voting, contaminating an idea of clean sport and public duty. It is how the USA would also expect this to be seen.
I would bet that is not how this is seen elsewhere. What we construe as corruption is definitely normal practice elsewhere, for a start. Then sport is also not seen as a clean ideal, it is clearly understood to be an extension of politics, even a proxy warfare. The action of the USA can easily be recast as politically motivated, even racist. To us that may seem ridiculous, but I would bet that is actually how it plays in many smaller countries where FIFA has contributed massively to football, and national identity as a result.
Football is not really sport as we might wish to understand it, it is international corporatist business and nationalists politics expressed in a sports vehicle. We should be wary of confusing the vehicle with its passengers.
Back in the USA, I expect this also plays as evidence of the corrupted and decadent foreigners, and supports US exceptionalism at a time when it has been battered by events elsewhere.
This story is much more than it appears, it isn't nearly as simple as
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« Reply #84 on: 30 May, 2015, 10:24:59 am »
From what I've seen elsewhere it is being driven by the USAnian banks, who are not keen on money-laundering and prefer their chosen third-world dictators to do it via more traditional means like numbered Swiss accounts.
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #85 on: 30 May, 2015, 02:23:00 pm »
Tigerrr,
is that the same USA that boycotted the 1980 Olympics?
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« Reply #86 on: 30 May, 2015, 05:37:52 pm »
Yes, but that was Jimmy Carter, the well-known comsymp, er...
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #87 on: 30 May, 2015, 07:16:58 pm »
Tigerrr,
is that the same USA that boycotted the 1980 Olympics?
Yes, but historical detail probably isn't relevant to the attention span of the audience. I would bet that very very few americans are even aware that there was a president called carter, let alone that they boycotted, let alone didn't win most of the medals at the 1980 olympics. The American story today is what concerns america.
However I expect that the american story and the commercial interest of the mainly american based corporates that use the World cup to promote their story might well be diverging. Then again Coca Cola hasn't draped itself in the stars and stripes for ages, and could well float off into the international (tax free) zone anyway. Internally, Coke employees see that Atlanta drones as irrelevant anyway.
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #88 on: 31 May, 2015, 03:32:44 pm »
Now lets see if UEFA has the balls to boycott the World Cup. I am not holding my breath.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #89 on: 31 May, 2015, 04:17:27 pm »
Now lets see if UEFA has the balls to boycott the World Cup.

Worth a punt - that would soon concentrate the sponsors minds!  Can't see any other way, legal or otherwise, to dismantle the dungheap.
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« Reply #90 on: 31 May, 2015, 05:36:59 pm »
Now lets see if UEFA has the balls to boycott the World Cup. I am not holding my breath.

It would work if the U.S. And Brazil joined them.

Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #91 on: 01 June, 2015, 10:58:34 am »
Now lets see if UEFA has the balls to boycott the World Cup. I am not holding my breath.

It would work if the U.S. And Brazil joined them.
Hmm - and if UEFA suggested to Brazil that a 'world cup' be held in Brazil (again) instead of Qatar?
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« Reply #92 on: 01 June, 2015, 11:11:57 am »
It doesn't need Brazil and the USA. Most of the money that FIFA gets is generated by UEFA. UEFA can turn of the tap if they have the will.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #93 on: 02 June, 2015, 05:50:36 pm »
Blatter has just resigned!
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #94 on: 02 June, 2015, 05:59:39 pm »
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #95 on: 02 June, 2015, 06:02:02 pm »
Blimey ! The wolves must have been at the door. I wonder if he had been tipped of someone was about to implicate him personally.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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« Reply #96 on: 02 June, 2015, 06:02:52 pm »
It doesn't need Brazil and the USA. Most of the money that FIFA gets is generated by UEFA. UEFA can turn of the tap if they have the will.

Well, via sponsors from Europe and UEFA both.

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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #97 on: 02 June, 2015, 06:10:46 pm »
Well this is going to scupper the boycott calls. Lets hope they sorr things out properly now. Not holding my breath
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #98 on: 02 June, 2015, 06:11:56 pm »
But is he just doing a Farage?
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Re: The FIFA row...
« Reply #99 on: 02 June, 2015, 06:20:17 pm »
He says he won't stand in the new elections. However, he said before the election he wouldn't stand down.
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