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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1325 on: 14 February, 2011, 11:41:48 pm »
So, do we go with strict grammar or everyday usage? To be honest, I think I prefer the latter, especially in this context.

My inner pedant got the better of me and I went with strict grammar in the end: it's a plural noun, end of.

And judging by subsequent responses here, I think I was right to do so.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1326 on: 17 February, 2011, 10:38:05 am »
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1327 on: 17 February, 2011, 02:16:55 pm »
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1328 on: 20 February, 2011, 01:45:55 pm »
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Classic. A prime example of the common false assumption that because "X & me" is sometimes wrong, it's always wrong.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1329 on: 22 February, 2011, 01:47:44 pm »
From BBC report about visit to teddy bear factory.

"Once that is mastered, the limbs are sent over to Pauline Davies who puts the eyes on."

Strange bears!

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1330 on: 22 February, 2011, 01:56:24 pm »
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1331 on: 22 February, 2011, 02:41:30 pm »
Reading through a school report last night, this from the English teacher (of all people) -

XXXX has a lively intellect and, when focussed, can articulate fluent an assured responses at the highest level.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1332 on: 22 February, 2011, 02:49:47 pm »
My daughter's school report always reads as if it has been written by a gibbering idiot on LSD, I have ceased communicating with them on this ever since I asked for a context on their rating system and recieved a reply asking what I meant :facepalm:

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1333 on: 22 February, 2011, 02:53:44 pm »
Reading through a school report last night, this from the English teacher (of all people) -

XXXX has a lively intellect and, when focussed, can articulate fluent an assured responses at the highest level.

But that surely is just a missing letter d, not a grammatical error as such.

When I was churning out school reports for lots of kids, most of whom I'd only seen twice a week and who didn't participate noticeably in my lessons (music), sometimes it would be very difficult to think of anything to say at all. School report writing really is one of the most mind-numbing of occupations.

Having said that, I believe that most schools these days try to keep stuff a lot more relevant and record-keeping is probably a lot more conspicuous than it was 30 years ago.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1334 on: 22 February, 2011, 03:36:43 pm »
Some schools were using report-writing systems by the 1990s. I wouldn't be surprised if that's spread. I remember a former girlfriend ranting about having to select from a limited set of ghastly phrases & sentences, which were rarely, if ever, appropriate.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1335 on: 24 February, 2011, 10:14:36 am »
Stuffs in the formation $PERSON is a former $NATIONALITY $PROFESSION, such as "Niki Lauda is a former Austrian racing driver" or "Hendrix stayed with his girlfriend, former German figure skater Monika Dannemann".   Admittedly Monika Dannemann is now a former German, but only in the sense that she's also a former human being.  If you really can't be arsed to rearrange the sentence, try using the word "retired".

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1336 on: 25 February, 2011, 01:58:16 pm »
Reading through a school report last night, this from the English teacher (of all people) -

XXXX has a lively intellect and, when focussed, can articulate fluent an assured responses at the highest level.

And focused is spelled with one s, not two. Drives me batty, that does.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1337 on: 25 February, 2011, 02:05:43 pm »
Actually, either is acceptable, although the single s sets my teeth on edge.  Makes it fo-kyuzed ;)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1338 on: 25 February, 2011, 02:17:04 pm »
Actually, either is acceptable, although the single s sets my teeth on edge.  Makes it fo-kyuzed ;)

What, the same way "snake" is pronounced "znake"?

Focus should only take a double s if one stresses the second syllable (c.f. begin, beginning; allot, allotted). That's not how I pronounce focus, don't know about you.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1339 on: 25 February, 2011, 02:35:35 pm »
No, the same way refused or confused are pronounced.  But it matters not.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1340 on: 25 February, 2011, 02:37:59 pm »
I've never really understood that one either.
Fuse - fused
Fuss - fussed
Focus - focused.  ???
It's a bit weird, but actually quite wonderful.

clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1341 on: 25 February, 2011, 02:41:52 pm »
Actually, now I remember, I think it was 'focusing' that never felt right, not 'focused'.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1342 on: 25 February, 2011, 03:03:29 pm »
I've never really understood that one either.
Fuse - fused
Fuss - fussed
Focus - focused.  ???


mouse - mice
house - hice ?

goose - geese
moose - meese ?

Oh, the joy and simplicity of the English language!  :D
 
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1343 on: 25 February, 2011, 03:15:51 pm »
Slide - slid

Glide - glid?

Side - sided

Glide - glided?

Ride - rode

Glide - glode?

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1344 on: 25 February, 2011, 04:49:54 pm »
If I were a bear
And big bear too
I shouldn't much care
If it froze or snew.
I shouldn't much mind
If it snowed or friz
I'd be all fur lined
With a coat like his.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1345 on: 25 February, 2011, 05:02:19 pm »
house - hice ?

By jove I think he's got it!

Always nice to hear Johnny foreigner aiming for a correct English accent, what?!
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1346 on: 25 February, 2011, 06:01:33 pm »
house - hice ?

By jove I think he's got it!

Always nice to hear Johnny foreigner aiming for a correct English accent, what?!

What?

Personally I'm much more in favour of vividly pithy imagery (now there's a phrase to avoid in speech) than pedantic correctness.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1347 on: 25 February, 2011, 06:59:41 pm »
house - hice ?

By jove I think he's got it!

Always nice to hear Johnny foreigner aiming for a correct English accent, what?!

Around 'ere, it's more like 'owss. ;)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1348 on: 25 February, 2011, 07:00:13 pm »
If I were a bear
And big bear too
I shouldn't much care
If it froze or snew.
I shouldn't much mind
If it snowed or friz
I'd be all fur lined
With a coat like his.

A. A. LARRINGTON (retired)


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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1349 on: 25 February, 2011, 10:48:54 pm »
Usage. 'Literally'.

This week I have heard it used twice, by people who should probably have known better, when  its antonym, or nothing at all, should have been used.  Margaret Hodge said something on Question Time about the MOD 'literally throwing money down the drain'.  And Sally Bercow on the 10 O'clock Show: "If we do switch to AV MPs are going to literally have a rocket shoved up their bottom".  Daily in work I hear the twenty-somethings in the team use it as an intensifier: "I was literally in at 7 o'clock". I sigh and bite my tongue.