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Title: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 February, 2016, 11:31:18 am
Latest poncy subtitled offering in the Saturday night middle-class ponce slot from the irredeemable ponces at BBC4.  Is it any cop?  Recorded the first tranche last w/e but aten't got round to watching it yet.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Riggers on 19 February, 2016, 12:04:02 pm
We enjoyed it. So there.

Reeaaally liked the first song that starts off the first episode.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: nicknack on 19 February, 2016, 02:02:32 pm
It's very cold.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Pingu on 19 February, 2016, 11:03:31 pm
The father from the Killing has been released from prison and is the captain of a ferry. Meanwhile, the big bloke from Prison Shift has escaped and is masquerading as the chief of police.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 19 February, 2016, 11:23:17 pm
Meanwhile, the big bloke from Prison Shift has escaped and is masquerading as the chief of police.

My lovely horse.....
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: PeteB99 on 20 February, 2016, 11:22:37 am
Recorded the first two ep's but only watched the first one. It's ok, so I'll probably continue with it for awhile.

The scriptwriters seem to have an exaggerated idea of what a ships masters powers actually are. If police, immigration or customs want to search the ship they can just do it without needing a search warrant from the ships country of registry and as for discharging passengers or cargo without permission - forget it.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: bryn on 01 March, 2016, 05:44:34 pm
Who were the cycling group in Reykjavik in the last episode?  It was a brief night shot while the helicopter heroes were saying it was much to dangerous to fly;  the cyclists were riding proper bikes with good lights and scattered all over the road just like an Audax peleton :)

Surely there must be at least one Icelandic rider here who can tell us!

Bryn
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: arabella on 01 March, 2016, 06:37:38 pm
Recorded the first two ep's but only watched the first one. It's ok, so I'll probably continue with it for awhile.

The scriptwriters seem to have an exaggerated idea of what a ships masters powers actually are. If police, immigration or customs want to search the ship they can just do it without needing a search warrant from the ships country of registry and as for discharging passengers or cargo without permission - forget it.
there's a very long thread about 'trapped' on the grauniad site, some of it explains this.  it's to do with what flag the ship is flying iirc.
I haven't quite worked out what time of day is daylight and what's really the middle of the night.

I was wondering about that peloton too.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 01 March, 2016, 09:27:18 pm
The father from the Killing has been released from prison and is the captain of a ferry. Meanwhile, the big bloke from Prison Shift has escaped and is masquerading as the chief of police.

Theis Birk Larsen is definitely a wrong'un.  And the Lithunian baddie's day job is fronting the Foo Fighters.  And I think the National Crime Squad cop with the moustache may have been Reece Shearsmith's TA oppo in "Spaced".
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: PeteB99 on 02 March, 2016, 10:45:20 am
Recorded the first two ep's but only watched the first one. It's ok, so I'll probably continue with it for awhile.

The scriptwriters seem to have an exaggerated idea of what a ships masters powers actually are. If police, immigration or customs want to search the ship they can just do it without needing a search warrant from the ships country of registry and as for discharging passengers or cargo without permission - forget it.
there's a very long thread about 'trapped' on the grauniad site, some of it explains this.  it's to do with what flag the ship is flying iirc.
I haven't quite worked out what time of day is daylight and what's really the middle of the night.

I was wondering about that peloton too.

I think I found the thread you refer to and waded through the comments ( ten minutes of my life I'll never get back ;D)

Unless you're a warship in commission when different rules apply a vessel is bound by the laws of the jurisdiction it is berthed in. If the local laws allow searching of property with only a local warrant (or no warrant) then that applies to to visiting vessels no matter what their flag of registration. If a crime is committed or suspected the local police don't have to apply to the authorities in Liberia or Panama or whoevers tax laws are currently the laxest. I've seen visiting yachts being boarded with no warning - even been intercepted myself once.

In any case a ships master will always cooperate with the shore authorities - he/she usually has to go back there.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 March, 2016, 12:08:39 am
"Warming up nicely" is perhaps the wrong phrase to use but I've reached the end of ep. 4 now and am rather getting into it.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Riggers on 07 March, 2016, 10:04:43 am
Still enjoying it … but … maybe it's because it's filmed darkly, or maybe it's an 'age' thing, but … I'm beginning to ask my wife: "Who's she?" And: "Is she the one who was bonking?" "Which one's Guirmunder?"

Following the subtitles AND listening to the dialogue, I'm amazed how bonkers Icelandic is. I've yet to hear Andri actually sound like Andri, rather than Shgsll or something equally unpronounceable. Tak seems Scandinavianbly universal, as does Nay.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: PeteB99 on 07 March, 2016, 11:51:06 am
Certainly worth watching although like Riggers it's never going to tempt me into trying to learn Icelandic.

I'm glad Andri got his starter motor fixed though. That was starting to worry me ;D
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 March, 2016, 02:23:42 pm
Dr Larrington will be disappointed with the repair to Andri's motor - she was convinced it was going to be a major plot device.  OTOH it still could be and Andri will spend the last two episodes hunting down Kiddi with a torque wrench in his hand and a vengeful gleam in his eye.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Riggers on 07 March, 2016, 03:51:51 pm
I think you mean squinting, with several large snowflakes in his eyes.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: bryn on 07 March, 2016, 10:10:20 pm
I'm beginning to ask my wife: "Who's she?" And: "Is she the one who was bonking?" "Which one's Guirmunder?"

We now never watch programmes with this amount of intellectual challenge in real time.  The recorder starts up at the beginning of the episode, and we start watching about a minute later, with lots of rewinding to answer those annoying little questions about whether we saw her with him 5 minutes ago and was the arsonist holding (a) an ice pick (b) a shovel (c) a walking stick.  We can usually make out the men from the women, but finer differentiation requires more investigation with the rewinder. 

And never trust anyone who wears a yellow jacket.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Riggers on 08 March, 2016, 08:47:12 am
^ er … that's what we're doing too, but hasn't stopped confusion on my part.

We've now caught up and watched 8 out of 10. Phew! Seems to me EVERYBODY is implicated with whatever's going on.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 March, 2016, 09:04:21 am
The only people I think are innocent are Andri (obv) and Hjörtur (who's just guilty of being a bit of a dick), but then I've only reached the end of ep. 4.  I wouldn't be surprised if Perla is in it up to her eyeballs, the horrid little beast.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Riggers on 08 March, 2016, 09:49:12 am
Perla? Remind me. Who's she!?

And is it just me, but everyone in Iceland appear to be giants.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 March, 2016, 10:06:21 am
Perla? Remind me. Who's she!?

Andri & Agnes' younger daughter, the one who spends most of her time tormenting the unfortunate Maggi.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: PeteB99 on 08 March, 2016, 10:45:13 am
Dr Larrington will be disappointed with the repair to Andri's motor - she was convinced it was going to be a major plot device.  OTOH it still could be and Andri will spend the last two episodes hunting down Kiddi with a torque wrench in his hand and a vengeful gleam in his eye.

The writers seem so sling red herrings about with abandon. When the yoof held their pool party I was sure someone was going to end up raped or murdered. As it is they seem to have all escaped with minor hangovers.

Not even sure how many crimes are being investigated and by whom.

The girl who was burned to death at the start of ep1 - Andri's Sil or sister? no ones put much effort into that so far. Trudi or whatever his name is has got a confession for the chopped up body and the incinerated mayor but no one else is convinced. The people trafficing - again not much interest. What is the "cargo" that the ferry captain and engineer agreed the ship couldn't leave without? The third policeman Asgeir? is hiding something as well.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: jsabine on 08 March, 2016, 01:34:08 pm
The third policeman Asgeir? is hiding something as well.

A bicycle?
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Riggers on 08 March, 2016, 04:21:45 pm
All it really needs to up the stakes, is for the town to have been in spitting distance of that famous active volcano: gsdhgfgjocolweltgdsjkbgkgdlll.*

*I believe that's how it's spelt.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: bryn on 08 March, 2016, 05:13:28 pm
I always thought that was in Wales.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 March, 2016, 11:40:27 pm
Just watched ep. 5 and something is Wrong.  Beating people over the head with Mr Shovel and then setting them on fire is what mayors do, not have done to them >:(
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 March, 2016, 03:03:46 am
Now up to date. 

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Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: PeteB99 on 09 March, 2016, 10:51:03 am
Sorry for the spoilers before - I forgot you hadn't caught up.

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Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Bledlow on 09 March, 2016, 12:32:03 pm
The third policeman Asgeir? is hiding something as well.

A bicycle?
Wrong island. That's a 'c', not an 'r'.  ;)
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 March, 2016, 04:56:59 pm
How do Icelanders get angry with each other when they have to use given names all the time?  But anyway...

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The third policeman Asgeir? is hiding something as well.

A bicycle?

I'm afraid that since this post I've been thinking of him as the only TV copper ever named after a bicycle transmission - Osgear.

(http://legslarry.org.uk/BikeStull/coat_48.png)
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 March, 2016, 10:50:00 pm
(Decides not to give up day job in favour of writing Scandicrimethings)
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Pingu on 13 March, 2016, 06:13:39 pm
I knew Asgeir was wearing the red jersey.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: PeteB99 on 13 March, 2016, 09:36:12 pm
Blimey that was a bit bleak
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 14 March, 2016, 07:14:03 am
I shoul have realised that cut-price Ted Danson impersonator Guðni was a wrong 'un.  He drove an Audi 4x4.

Note to the Mega-Global Fruit Corporation of Cupertino, USAnia: you think you're clever with your press-and-hold FOREIGN character typing antics so why won't it do Icelandic, eh?  EH??
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Pancho on 14 March, 2016, 07:31:12 am
When this thread title popped up on my "unread" screen, I was hoping it was a plea for help from a YACF-er trapped in a lift with nothing but a packet of Smarties, a small penknife, and an internet connection.
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 March, 2016, 12:53:52 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc0B4esWwAEE-ik.jpg)

Hinrika is watching you...
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: Riggers on 16 March, 2016, 01:31:01 pm
^ Is she the one with the odd bulbous brow?
Title: Re: Trapped
Post by: mattc on 16 March, 2016, 07:49:01 pm
I'm beginning to ask my wife: "Who's she?" And: "Is she the one who was bonking?" "Which one's Guirmunder?"

We now never watch programmes with this amount of intellectual challenge in real time.  The recorder starts up at the beginning of the episode, and we start watching about a minute later, with lots of rewinding to answer those annoying little questions about whether we saw her with him 5 minutes ago and was the arsonist holding (a) an ice pick (b) a shovel (c) a walking stick.  We can usually make out the men from the women, but finer differentiation requires more investigation with the rewinder. 
Oh thank god it's not just us! Although I very rarely resort to the pause/rewind option, it just seems so ... wrong. I do tend to struggle on, with urgent whispered questions to my - long-suffering - partner. Perhaps if digi-recorders had been invented before my birth I'd be more pragmatic!

Anyhoo: about two episodes in here. Quite enjoying it overall - it's not gripping, but is nicely devoid of many tired scandi/crime/BBC4/middle-class ponce slot  cliches.