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Biggsy

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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #25 on: 06 March, 2009, 03:45:14 pm »
Just use decent tyres that are not worn out and you'll not need tyre boots at all. (I have carried a Park one and a piece of tyre of thousands on likometres and used it only once).

A top-quality lightweight tyre can get ripped on its first outing if you're unlucky enough.  That happened to one of mine, and a Park Tyre Boot saved the day with minimal fuss.  The self-adhesive makes it really quick & easy to fit.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #26 on: 06 March, 2009, 03:51:16 pm »
I hit a large flint, and it cut the sidewall, hence my need for a boot. Tire wasn't that worn.

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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #27 on: 06 March, 2009, 04:13:53 pm »
Whilst on the way to NearGruB I burst a tyre on a sharp stone. It was only about 4 months old. I managed to use some inner tube patches to get me to GruBLand and the GruBLBS! It was touch and go though, the patches were wearing through.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #28 on: 06 March, 2009, 04:49:38 pm »
+1 to Park tyre boots.  They are a fine temporary fix.

Be advised that a Park Tyre Boot is not a permanent fix.  After a month or two, it will go all hard and wrinkly and cause your tyre to explode in an unseemly manner.

Do not ask me how I know this.

Surely you wouldn't want to keep a tyre that needed a tyre boot?  Mine policy is to take it off and chuck it as soon as I can replace it with a new tyre.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #29 on: 06 March, 2009, 04:54:57 pm »
Dunno why.  I see a lot of motorists driving around with spacesaver spares (even on the motorway) - should work much the same, no?
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #30 on: 06 March, 2009, 05:03:38 pm »
A bicycle tyre is safe to use for the rest of its natural life when booted with something as strong and durable as a piece of tyre casing.  No need to chuck if confident that you've done a good job.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #31 on: 06 March, 2009, 05:07:36 pm »
If a tyre's been damaged enough to need a boot, I'd replace it when I got home.  But then, as I said, I'm probably over-cautious...
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #32 on: 06 March, 2009, 05:14:08 pm »
Nothing wrong with being over-cautious - if you can afford to be :)

I don't think booting is being under-cautious though, if you do it properly.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #33 on: 06 March, 2009, 05:29:56 pm »
If a tyre's been damaged enough to need a boot, I'd replace it when I got home.  But then, as I said, I'm probably over-cautious...

When you consider how often I get to 45mph on downhills, I wouldn't consider that at all over-cautious.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #34 on: 06 March, 2009, 05:46:11 pm »
When I went to the LBS to buy the park boot their advice was to go home and wrap some gaffer tape round my pump - apparently it's just as effective. Thankfully I've yet to have cause to try it out. Anyone tried this?

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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #35 on: 06 March, 2009, 05:53:36 pm »
It is over-cautious to think material designed for withstanding high pressure won't withstand high pressure.  That is all the boot has to do.  I have ridden a booted tyre at 40 mph with no worry at all.  No more worry than usual, I mean!  (That would be 45 mph too if I ever did 45 mph at all these days).

Not that there's anything terrible about being over-cautious.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #36 on: 06 March, 2009, 06:39:16 pm »
US currency works, but the one time I tried it I only had a couple of $20 bills so I pulled them out when I got home. It made for a good story to the shopkeeper when I spent them.

I used lots of duct tape to patch a massive slice in a brand new tire on the first day of my Scotland tour(cycling from LHR to Euston station to get a train to Edinburgh) and forgot the boot was there until I hit 50 mph on a long descent  :o.

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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #37 on: 06 March, 2009, 07:31:11 pm »
I keep a piece of Tyvek envelope in my puncture kit as it was free and works well.  A crisp packet would probably be fine too.  You just need to make sure that the boot is big enough to be held against the wall of the tyre by the tube.  UK notes won't work for long as they're made of paper - you need cloth or plastic notes.

I used a tyre with a duct tape patch for a year, though it was only over a small hole.

Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #38 on: 06 March, 2009, 08:11:05 pm »
I don't carry bits of tyre for this purpose.  That's an emergency thang.

A piece of this in your toolkit is lighter and way more effective:



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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #39 on: 06 March, 2009, 08:15:32 pm »
A piece of Embassy fag packet only lasts three miles.  Been there, done that.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #40 on: 06 March, 2009, 08:26:11 pm »
A piece of Embassy fag packet only lasts three miles.  Been there, done that.

M&M packets last a little bit longer and they taste better than Embassy  ;D
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #41 on: 06 March, 2009, 08:51:09 pm »
M&M's are a bugger to light though.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #42 on: 06 March, 2009, 08:54:08 pm »
A tyre boot wouldn't have got me round Cambridge-York-Cambridge after I'd worn the rear tyre down to canvas round the entire circumference after about 230km.

Probably useful to have as a back-up to full replacement tyre though.

Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #43 on: 06 March, 2009, 09:18:41 pm »
A tyre boot wouldn't have got me round Cambridge-York-Cambridge after I'd worn the rear tyre down to canvas round the entire circumference after about 230km.

Probably useful to have as a back-up to full replacement tyre though.


How did you manage to do that?  If it wasn't a mechanical, that implies you didn't check your bike over?
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #44 on: 06 March, 2009, 09:59:30 pm »
A tyre boot wouldn't have got me round Cambridge-York-Cambridge after I'd worn the rear tyre down to canvas round the entire circumference after about 230km.

Probably useful to have as a back-up to full replacement tyre though.


How did you manage to do that?  If it wasn't a mechanical, that implies you didn't check your bike over?

I don't recall checking the tread at the start, but then I tend to check things when I decide to perform maintenance rather than at the start of a ride when if something serious is wrong, it's too late to do anything about it.

Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #45 on: 06 March, 2009, 11:44:23 pm »
Just use decent tyres that are not worn out and you'll not need tyre boots at all. (I have carried a Park one and a piece of tyre of thousands on likometres and used it only once).
I've had a sidewall ripped by a large, sharp flint while cornering on a night ride. No chance to avoid it. New or old wouldn't make any difference to that.
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #46 on: 07 March, 2009, 12:19:02 am »
Just use decent tyres that are not worn out and you'll not need tyre boots at all. (I have carried a Park one and a piece of tyre of thousands on likometres and used it only once).
I've had a sidewall ripped by a large, sharp flint while cornering on a night ride. No chance to avoid it. New or old wouldn't make any difference to that.

I think that tyre would have had perhaps 2000-3000 miles on it at most, and I was doing a 400 mile ride.  I can't detect a tyre being within 400 miles of needing replacement.  And that's a significant fraction of its useful life.

Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #47 on: 07 March, 2009, 12:56:18 am »
Has anyone mentioned tothpaste tube yet?
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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #48 on: 07 March, 2009, 12:51:54 pm »
After this morning's ride, I can tell you that an energy gel sachet lasts about a mile and half. After the first blowout, we noticed another bubble of inner tube so he had two boots in there. That tyre should have been binned months ago!

Why do people ride ultra-expensive carbon race bikes in winter, subject them to a shocking lack of maintenance and won't spend £15 on a tyre when the old one is clearly falling apart?

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Re: Making a tyre boot
« Reply #49 on: 08 March, 2009, 02:37:58 pm »
The good news is that my tyre boot wasn't needed yesterday.  :thumbsup:

Which was one of the reasons for having it!
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