Author Topic: (De)crepitation  (Read 4947 times)

Julian

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(De)crepitation
« on: 16 August, 2010, 10:32:55 am »
I'm assuming the word comes from the same stem as decrepitude.  Anyway, crepitation is what there is a lot of in my knees.  Having finally fulfilled my new year resolution to take my knees to the GP, the GP says they're chock full of crepitation and has sent me down the hospital for an x-ray just in case.

He also says it's a shame I don't have private health care.  :-\

Apparently the NHS physio service is mammothly overstretched and so I'm saving the pennies for a private consultation with a physio. 

Nice doctor though - this one didn't suggest that I give up all forms of exercise foreveranever, which is a bonus.  And I got a new word out of it.  Crepitation.  I love learning words sufficiently obscure that the spell check doesn't know them.    :thumbsup:

clarion

  • Tyke
Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #1 on: 16 August, 2010, 10:35:38 am »
Oh crep. :(
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Julian

  • samoture
Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #2 on: 16 August, 2010, 10:37:15 am »
;D

Innit.  Hoping that if I finally get them sorted, I might be okay for an SR series next year though.

andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #3 on: 16 August, 2010, 10:55:10 am »
If only your name was Suzette, then you'd have Crepes Suzette...

Creps is just a symptom though (I get creptastic hangover knees).  Bike/knee, that's usually arthriticky gack that wants a kneecap scale and polish, isn't it?

Also: a sports physio consult's usually around £40, the bank breaketh not (especially when considering the specialist knowledge that comes with sporty physios).
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Julian

  • samoture
Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #4 on: 16 August, 2010, 10:59:27 am »
I think it might just be a kneecap scale and polish, yes. 

Depending on the outcome of the x-ray I might be wandering back to the hospital for an arthroscopy, which I made the huge mistake of googling.

Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #5 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:07:29 am »
I wouldn't overly fret, Julian.

I'm a lot older than you, and have had dry, grating noises from my kneecaps since I was about 6. At times the noise is audible from a distance. All sorts of dire things predicted.

My knees are still going fine, although they are a bit nobbly. I've gone through a running phase, doing 20-30 miles a week, cycling, rock climbing.

Apart from the terrible noises and presumably some pain, what other symptoms are you getting?
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Julian

  • samoture
Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #6 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:12:57 am »
Some slight inflammation too, but mainly lots of pain - it's only the fact that I can't manage my eight-mile commute and my knees are painful when I'm doing nothing at all that has finally driven me to the doc. 

That and the fact that I kinda fancy a half-iron for my thirtieth birthday, and need working knees to do it with...

hellymedic

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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #7 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:13:51 am »
Crepitus and crepitation are used to denote a crunchy sound/sensation like the Snap-Crackle-Pop of Rice Krispies and milk.
There's crepitus in a lung with pneumonia that can be felt on the chest as well as heard with a stethesocpe.

It's just a polite way of saying your knees grate which is probably not news.
Good luck with the physio and hope your knees improve.

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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #8 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:33:31 am »
I have very creppity knees (too much damage to them in the past).

If your GP decides to send you on for a consultant appointment, ask him to do it via Choose & Book and see if you can get yourself into the Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital.  They're the mutts nuts!
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clarion

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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #9 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:36:09 am »
If your GP decides to send you on for a consultant appointment, ask him to do it via Choose & Book ...

If the bloody system's working >:(

mutter...mutter...mutter...
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Regulator

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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #10 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:37:31 am »
If your GP decides to send you on for a consultant appointment, ask him to do it via Choose & Book ...

If the bloody system's working >:(

mutter...mutter...mutter...

My techy guy assures me that the main problem with Choose & Book is the fleshy interface...  ;)


...and having met many of them in my new role I can only agree. 
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clarion

  • Tyke
Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #11 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:43:12 am »
Your techy guy is wrong on that point.  Whilst the fleshy interface (trained for long years in anatomy, physiology etc etc etc and not at all on computers) is often unreliable, we have had a spate of C&B closing down the patient database when accessed, before the consultation can be recorded, or losing the notes already made.

C&B sometimes doesn't open, or doesn't register the inputs.  It takes a long time, and is a bit rubbish.
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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #12 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:47:57 am »
Your techy guy is wrong on that point.  Whilst the fleshy interface (trained for long years in anatomy, physiology etc etc etc and not at all on computers) is often unreliable, we have had a spate of C&B closing down the patient database when accessed, before the consultation can be recorded, or losing the notes already made.

C&B sometimes doesn't open, or doesn't register the inputs.  It takes a long time, and is a bit rubbish.

In our region that certainly isn't the case... but you're in the NHS London region aren't you?  If so, then there are infrastructure issues - but these aren't actually C&B issues.

In or experience 99% of time when referrers say there is a technical problem there isn't.  And I have the tech logs to prove it!  ;D
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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #13 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:51:01 am »
I had this a few years ago. It got to the point where I was worried going up ladders (like into the loft) because the knees had a habit of giving way.

I wasn't doing much cycling at that point (before I was a born-again cyclist). I went to the doc, crossed my legs, she put her hand on my knee as I straightened it. She said "Ewww, I'm not doing that again" and sent me of to the hospital. Lots of x-rays, they suggested keyhole scale'n'polish, but also suggested leaving it until it was at a point where potential side effects would not be as bad as living with it.

I took a lot of vitamin-i as they recommended, and didn't bother with the knife.

When I started cycling again I had to be careful which leg I started off with, and to not push to hard on starting as that would cause huge pain. But it has gradually got better over the years, so now I hardly have any problems - certainly my knees are no worse than other ageing parts of my body! I regularly take other joint-related pills (cod liver oil, Glucosamine and chondroitin sulphate) which I started using after getting a thumb injury in a car accident. They seem to have helped too - but I don't remember if you are veggie so they may not be appropriate for you.

Hope you get sorted.

Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #14 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:21:45 pm »
I think it might just be a kneecap scale and polish, yes. 

Depending on the outcome of the x-ray I might be wandering back to the hospital for an arthroscopy, which I made the huge mistake of googling.

I think that's what a cousin of mine had some time back. He went back to a career in ballet - if a little success anecdata helps.

clarion

  • Tyke
Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #15 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:22:20 pm »
So will Julian become a Prima Ballerina?
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andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #16 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:25:15 pm »
Wot the devil is Vitamin I?

I know Vitamin P.  That's pasties.  :thumbsup:
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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #17 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:27:14 pm »
Ibuprofen.
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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #18 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:27:33 pm »
Ibuprofen?
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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #19 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:29:50 pm »
Those who saw me limping around the campsite will know that I'm in the same boat, but slightly further progressed.  I've had the x-ray, and the results have returned to my GP as "No Further Action".

But it still hurts.

So I've now made another appointment with my GP to discuss what that means.
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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #20 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:30:21 pm »
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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #21 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:38:59 pm »
I have yet to have met a person with hurty/crunchy knees who found that surgery helped make them less painfull.

Unless you have really destroyed your knee or torn something that keeps it all in place and need sharpish emergency treatment I would see if it gets better on it's own.

My knees take it in turns to be painfull at the moment - at least I  know when it will rain.

Also - never listen to any bugger who claims to have "shin-splints"


Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #22 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:43:43 pm »
So will Julian become a Prima Ballerina?

This thread is useless etc ... but if you want to photoshop a tutu onto a picture of her, be my guest   ;D

Regulator

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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #23 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:45:39 pm »
I have yet to have met a person with hurty/crunchy knees who found that surgery helped make them less painfull.

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You must meet my sister and me then.  Both of us have surgery for just such problems with our knees - my sister has had to have it repeated because her degeneration is worse than mine - and in both our cases it made our knees significantly less painful.

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Re: (De)crepitation
« Reply #24 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:49:53 pm »
I have yet to have met a person with hurty/crunchy knees who found that surgery helped make them less painfull.

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You must meet my sister and me then.  Both of us have surgery for just such problems with our knees - my sister has had to have it repeated because her degeneration is worse than mine - and in both our cases it made our knees significantly less painful.


That sounds like an inherited condition well beyond normal wear and tear to me...so not entirely relevant.