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Mr Larrington

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2475 on: 11 July, 2021, 11:17:24 am »
E-mail from Ebuyer this morning asking me to rate a recent purchase.

Hello? It's an SSD.  It does disky Stuffs, quietly.  It has no blinkenlights.  It does not sing, nor dance, nor does it make the tea, raise and lower Tower Bridge or cross the Stormy North Atlantic by steam power. It's a fucking storage device.  If it didn’t work you’d already know about it.  It does work.  Ask me again in six months time :facepalm:
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2476 on: 19 July, 2021, 03:23:46 pm »
My phone (Moto G7) got battery bulge.  Possibly due to exposure to that nuclear sky ball thing that we have now.

I was stupid enough to crack the screen by poking at it before backing up contacts and things.  Screen's now too fucked to unlock it and mount the filesystem over USB or enable the debugger or anything useful.  Div.

I've ripped the battery out for explosion containment reasons.  The rest can go in a drawer as spare parts (see below).

Barakta's phone (also Moto G7, about 7 months newer) seems fine.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2477 on: 20 July, 2021, 08:19:26 pm »
Bing Maps!  You sucketh greatly.
When I drop a pin at a location, then generate a link to share this, the link sometimes (randomly!) does not come back to the same place!

I am working on a local project to locate some historical artifacts.
I am providing GPS locations, and various other information, including an OS Maps link.
Bing maps provides an OS maps layer, so I'm using them.

Here's an example of the issue I face ( and it may not reproduce for everyone, it's quite an inconsistent issue ).

Lat/Long extracted from GPS waypoint:
57.138532111421227 -2.094846814870834

(Yes, yes I know that's a sub-atomic precision. Bear with me.)

Go to the Bing maps website: https://www.bing.com/maps/
Switch to OS maps.
Copy-paste the above lat/long into the search box, and hit enter.
You should get a pin dropped on the banks of the river Dee, in Aberdeen.
A pane opens on the left, describing the location.
Fine.

At the top of the Bing page, click More [...], and click the 'Share' option.
On the pane that pops up, there is a link generated, with a 'Copy' button.
Click 'Copy' to copy this to the clipboard.

In my case, I get this link:
https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=3897a31c-e6c7-4a89-9262-eb305e5738c2&cp=57.138897~-2.100168&lvl=16&style=s&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027

Now, try to use this link.
Open a new tab in the browser, and paste the link into the navigation bar.

It opens the map to the correct area, but there's no pin.
The information pane on the left describes a random location, ranging from Germany to the US.

By altering the number of decimal places in the lat/long I can get it to work, but it's very inconsistent. Removing 5 or 6 spurious places generally works, but sometimes removing 6 fails, and removing 5 works.

Really a pile of poo.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2478 on: 20 July, 2021, 08:42:06 pm »
I followed your instructions and opened the proffered link in a browser. The left pane contained stuff to do with something in that London. Hit F5 and it refreshed with local Furryboottoon stuff.

Yep -  a pile of poo.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2479 on: 20 July, 2021, 08:57:03 pm »
It took me to a page showing a in with this info attached "7 Old Ford Road, Aberdeen, Aberdeen City, AB11 9AA"

Looking like this, is that correct or wrong?
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2480 on: 20 July, 2021, 09:28:31 pm »
That's correct.

Perhaps it's an issue where the link was created on the same PC where you then try to view the link.
Perhaps some cookie the website dropped during the link creation fucks up subsequent viewing of the link.

ETA: Yes, it does appear to be cookie-related.
If I click on the link I posted, I get a London-based location.
If I clear cookies for bing.com, I get the correct location.

Ah, no. It's fucked again.
The link I posted above now goes to Bloomberg in the US.
731 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10022

And after closing/reopening chrome, it's correct.

Basically, where the link lands you is totally random based on something I don't know.



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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2481 on: 21 July, 2021, 05:53:14 pm »
My phone (Moto G7) got battery bulge.  Possibly due to exposure to that nuclear sky ball thing that we have now.

I was stupid enough to crack the screen by poking at it before backing up contacts and things.  Screen's now too fucked to unlock it and mount the filesystem over USB or enable the debugger or anything useful.  Div.

New phone obtained.  Moto G50.  Major differences, apart for the obligatory annoying Android UI redesign, include about a centimetre of height inflation, a physical calculator google assistant button that doesn't appear to be re-mappable to something useful, and that the second SIM slot shares physical space with the SD card slot, so you can only use one or the other.

It *might* be able to stay connected to a wireless LAN with IPv6 RAs on it, but it's a bit early to tell.  Hasn't randomly disconnected yet anyway.

Managed to recover a reasonable amount of my config from previous backups, at least.  And worked out how to stop Google Maps from crashing on startup...
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2482 on: 21 July, 2021, 06:29:53 pm »
New phone obtained.  Moto G50.  Major differences, apart for the obligatory annoying Android UI redesign, include about a centimetre of height inflation, a physical calculator google assistant button that doesn't appear to be re-mappable to something useful, and that the second SIM slot shares physical space with the SD card slot, so you can only use one or the other.
That sounds very inconvenient.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2483 on: 21 July, 2021, 08:56:29 pm »
That's correct.

Perhaps it's an issue where the link was created on the same PC where you then try to view the link.
Perhaps some cookie the website dropped during the link creation fucks up subsequent viewing of the link.

ETA: Yes, it does appear to be cookie-related.
If I click on the link I posted, I get a London-based location.
If I clear cookies for bing.com, I get the correct location.

Ah, no. It's fucked again.
The link I posted above now goes to Bloomberg in the US.
731 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10022

And after closing/reopening chrome, it's correct.

Basically, where the link lands you is totally random based on something I don't know.
I got "7 Old Ford Road", with a marker, pasting the link into Edge
Bloomberg LP at 731 Lexington Ave (aberdeen map, no marker) pasting into Chrome
Sussex County Cricket Club (aberdeen map, no marker) pasting into IE

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2484 on: 21 July, 2021, 09:42:54 pm »
That's correct.

Perhaps it's an issue where the link was created on the same PC where you then try to view the link.
Perhaps some cookie the website dropped during the link creation fucks up subsequent viewing of the link.

ETA: Yes, it does appear to be cookie-related.
If I click on the link I posted, I get a London-based location.
If I clear cookies for bing.com, I get the correct location.

Ah, no. It's fucked again.
The link I posted above now goes to Bloomberg in the US.
731 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10022

And after closing/reopening chrome, it's correct.

Basically, where the link lands you is totally random based on something I don't know.
I got "7 Old Ford Road", with a marker, pasting the link into Edge
Bloomberg LP at 731 Lexington Ave (aberdeen map, no marker) pasting into Chrome
Sussex County Cricket Club (aberdeen map, no marker) pasting into IE

Yep.

What a load of poo.

I'm going to re-do the web links to google maps sat view, and tell people if they want OS maps to paste the lat/long into bing.
The bing links don't persist correctly.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2485 on: 21 July, 2021, 10:14:08 pm »
When I do projects like that, sharing point on maps with a wee note attached. I have had great success with https://umap.openstreetmap.fr
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2486 on: 21 July, 2021, 10:19:04 pm »
When I do projects like that, sharing point on maps with a wee note attached. I have had great success with https://umap.openstreetmap.fr

Does it have a UK OS Maps layer?

If not, then I'm going to ditch online OS mapping, and simply provide the OS Grid references.
If the users want to see the pins on an OS map, they can copy-paste the lat/long into bing maps themselves.
That works, even if their sharing links don't.

I'll re-work my stuff to provide google sat view links, which is probably more useful anyway.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2487 on: 21 July, 2021, 10:37:45 pm »
If you've got grid references then you can link to maps on streetmap.co.uk, e.g. https://www.streetmap.co.uk/map/idld.srf?X=395058&Y=809213&A=Y&Z=115&lm=1

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2488 on: 21 July, 2021, 10:49:30 pm »
Moto G50.

[...]

It *might* be able to stay connected to a wireless LAN with IPv6 RAs on it, but it's a bit early to tell.  Hasn't randomly disconnected yet anyway.

Seems promising.  Not only does it seem to not randomly disconnect, but it seems to be able to roam between APs without closing sockets.  Finally a Moto G with WiFi that isn't broken?
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2489 on: 21 July, 2021, 10:50:59 pm »
If you've got grid references then you can link to maps on streetmap.co.uk, e.g. https://www.streetmap.co.uk/map/idld.srf?X=395058&Y=809213&A=Y&Z=115&lm=1

That produced an OS map, centered on the BoD, but with no pin on it.

Anyways, the purpose of this survey is to produce high-resolution GPS co-ords, the OS refs were a secondary output for those that like to work with paper maps.
I am still providing them, just in text form, not on a pretty online OS map.

My online linking is now to google sat view, which is actually more useful for most people who might be looking for these artefacts.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2490 on: 22 July, 2021, 09:50:28 am »
Have something important that needs to be done by 10 am, so I'm looking at a progress bar that says 'about thirteen minutes remaining.' (thanks for the precision Apple.)

Fucking IT and it's 'your computer will restart in 5 minutes' – was it that vital the security update ran right now? Again, it's like they know, and trigger these things at the most inopportune moment.

And because they're watching me, it's still saying 13 minutes, two minutes later.
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ian

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2491 on: 22 July, 2021, 05:58:00 pm »
Yes, Akamai is stumbling for the entire world. Please stop emailing me, I can't fix it.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2492 on: Yesterday at 09:51:02 am »
We don't have a computer specific grumble thread or a divvery thread so here it will have to be.

So I have an old Epson flat bed A4 scanner, still in good working order even if it is probably 20+ years old. It is a SCSI 1 device on a 50 pin centronics connector. Last year I upgraded my desktop PC new motherboard CPU etc. with the intention that I would transfer my old PCI SCSI card across. Here's the Divvery: new motherboard only has PCI Express slots so old SCSI card can't be transferred to the new build.  :facepalm:

I finally have gotten around to purchasing a second hand PCI express SCSI card for all of £35, great thinks I, I'll have the scanner working again ready for when I might need to use the expenses system again.

Second Divvery: Only now the new card has a VHDCI connector and the old one was a micro DB50.  :facepalm: My old cable won't fit.

And here is the rant. How in the name of all that's Holy can the replacement cable VHDCI - Centronics cost me £40 and more than the card itself?   :o

ian

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2493 on: Yesterday at 10:32:52 am »
I think you could have bought an entirely new (and better) scanner for less than you're spending on a cable...

Our expenses system, like most others these days, supports photographs of a receipt, the app even sorts them out and creates the expense.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2494 on: Yesterday at 10:57:52 am »
I think you could have bought an entirely new (and better) scanner for less than you're spending on a cable...

Buy? Round here you can’t leave the house without tripping over an abandoned scanner/inkjet printer thingy.

ian

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2495 on: Yesterday at 10:59:29 am »
True enough, I've not used mine for, erm, a long time. The inkjet has been banished to the loft. I have a scanner thing for my phone, hover it over the piece of paper, and it does the deed.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2496 on: Yesterday at 11:27:15 am »
I agree, I probably could have bought a new scanner, but I have a reliable, robust and proven bit of kit and see no need to throw it away or add to the collection of waste electrical items.