Post by: Bianchi Boy on 07 April, 2020, 07:23:52 am
Considering a September SR of DIY rides as I would be loathed to let my consecutive (currently 13 :-[) run stop. Even a heart operation did not break the sequence.
How are you getting on
BB
Post by: S2L on 07 April, 2020, 07:41:04 am
I alternate that with outings with my wife, on bike or on foot, she is a workoholic and can stay in front of the laptop all day if I don't step in
Post by: Peat on 07 April, 2020, 08:12:00 am
That's 9hrs a week. 1hr a day minimum. I NEED to get out of the house with the new WFH regime.
Post by: PaulF on 07 April, 2020, 08:31:24 am
But that's a combination of better weather and the fact that I moved house in early March so February and early March were lost to packing/moving/unpacking.
Post by: Alex B on 07 April, 2020, 08:51:53 am
(Add: I've a Raid Alpine booked for late August and it's unknown whether this will happen. But the last thing I want is for it to go ahead and for me to be required to cycle over the Alps unfit and overweight - this prospect keeps me training.)
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Post by: BrianI on 07 April, 2020, 10:33:16 am
I tried a 9km spin round the block last week. Almost ended in tears due to the pain of my frozen right shoulder :'(
Post by: bludger on 07 April, 2020, 10:45:20 am
If I lived in a place where you could do lanes riding from the front door then I would go a bit shorter. I'm about 15 km before I can get to anything like the countryside.
Post by: bairn again on 07 April, 2020, 10:55:05 am
Im hoping that some semblance of normality may return to allow completion of an SR by 30 September and have started drawing up plans for DIY events of 300-400-600 just in case.
Post by: vorsprung on 07 April, 2020, 10:58:40 am
A reasonable amount at the moment and trying to keep to around 200km a week. Generally doing 25-35k rides most days of the week (out to Hampstead Norreys/Aldworth, or Woodcote generally) either morning or evening depending on what time I get up, and 50-60k rides on Saturday & Sunday, aiming to be out for less than a couple of hours.
Same here.
I might switch to doing single speed hill climbs for the lunchtime rides though so less distance but more effort
Also will be getting the turbo sorted out
With the weather like this normally I'd be thinking about doing a 300 or 400. Hey ho :)
Post by: jiberjaber on 07 April, 2020, 11:37:12 am
I could go out on the Brompton, but it's not a very far ride on that.... and there it is, catch 22!
I do hope this isn't the beginning of the end of my cycling mojo :'(
Post by: Pete Mas on 07 April, 2020, 11:50:44 am
Richmond Park is now closed to cyclists so I tend to head out to the same route daily. I probably could do a few longer or hillier rides, but don't somehow feel comfortable with squaring that against the advice to 'stay home.'
Post by: bludger on 07 April, 2020, 02:10:44 pm
I'm still really struggling for motivation to ride and feeling increasingly guilty about it. I thought it was just a PBP/winter hangover but it seems to be more present now than ever. Last ride was 11 days ago (60km) I just keep finding excuses not to ride, windy, rain, sun, cold, warm...If you're looking for an affordable change, I can really recommend riding fixed. Assuming you don't live in the alps. It's been really enjoyable for me, hugely surprising how much I enjoyed doing small hills (and going down them!).
I could go out on the Brompton, but it's not a very far ride on that.... and there it is, catch 22!
I do hope this isn't the beginning of the end of my cycling mojo :'(
Post by: jiberjaber on 07 April, 2020, 02:18:07 pm
I've got fixed, gears / gravel, Brompton, carbon and a turbo but no mojo :)I'm still really struggling for motivation to ride and feeling increasingly guilty about it. I thought it was just a PBP/winter hangover but it seems to be more present now than ever. Last ride was 11 days ago (60km) I just keep finding excuses not to ride, windy, rain, sun, cold, warm...If you're looking for an affordable change, I can really recommend riding fixed. Assuming you don't live in the alps. It's been really enjoyable for me, hugely surprising how much I enjoyed doing small hills (and going down them!).
I could go out on the Brompton, but it's not a very far ride on that.... and there it is, catch 22!
I do hope this isn't the beginning of the end of my cycling mojo :'(
Post by: tedshred on 07 April, 2020, 02:28:14 pm
After 7 weeks off the bike, I am now riding the local 10 mile TT course on every bike I can find. I am never far from home (don't even leave my offshore paradise) and even at my speed I am not out for very long. Brompton or Elephant Bike tomorrow :thumbsup:
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Post by: JonB on 07 April, 2020, 05:05:22 pm
Much like asterix here.....my one hour permitted activity is concerned with walking the dogs.... :-\Me too, dog walking is the outside exercise. I've invested in a turbo plus trainer road and cycling is confined to the garage.
Post by: yanto on 07 April, 2020, 05:39:06 pm
Mid March I started to ride again only for this shit storm to land, this has resulted in me doing a 50km loop every other day and about a 10km off road ride the other days, this on a new mountain bike, and boy is my arse letting me know about it after 20 years of riding recumbents.
Post by: jiberjaber on 07 April, 2020, 05:41:04 pm
Jiber, you miss the pubs ::-)
After 7 weeks off the bike, I am now riding the local 10 mile TT course on every bike I can find. I am never far from home (don't even leave my offshore paradise) and even at my speed I am not out for very long. Brompton or Elephant Bike tomorrow :thumbsup:
You are probably right, I struggle unless I have a reason to ride now. I actually went out on the Brompton this afternoon after all! A tour around almost the circumference of Chelmsford city in order to post a birthday card for my sister.
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 April, 2020, 06:34:56 pm
But then I never do audax so this is probably OT.
Post by: Greenbank on 07 April, 2020, 07:37:09 pm
Last ride was a commute home on Friday March 13th.
Daily exercise is taken up by either a family walk with wife and 10yo daughter or a run (where I end up meeting them in a park to do some other exercise). No turbo trainer (I live in a 1st floor flat, downstairs neighbour did give me an old school magnetic turbo he got from a house clearance but I've never set it up, don't even know if I've got an axle that'll work with it).
Given I want to lose 20kg I'd rather spend the little outdoors opportunity I get to get properly running fit and lose a big chunk of weight[1]. Getting back to cycling fitness will be a lot easier if I'm lighter, and there's nothing I can really do about swimming fitness (which weight loss won't help with). It'll also be a nice experiment to see just how far I drop down and how quickly I can come back up using the local spinning classes. The first day the local gym is open I'll go and do a ramp test just for shits and giggles.
I'm early 40s, plenty of time to get back into cycling and Audax.
1. An hour of running does much more for my weight loss than an hour of cycling.
Post by: AJB on 07 April, 2020, 08:45:19 pm
Anton
Post by: Carlosfandango on 07 April, 2020, 09:08:51 pm
Jiber, you miss the pubs ::-)
After 7 weeks off the bike, I am now riding the local 10 mile TT course on every bike I can find. I am never far from home (don't even leave my offshore paradise) and even at my speed I am not out for very long. Brompton or Elephant Bike tomorrow :thumbsup:
You are probably right, I struggle unless I have a reason to ride now. I actually went out on the Brompton this afternoon after all! A tour around almost the circumference of Chelmsford city in order to post a birthday card for my sister.
This is part of it, I think where shall I/we go, Pin mill, Andrewsfield, The Compasses etc? For breakfast, lunch or dinner? Of course they're all shut and so it's a local loop, gets a bit samey, what's the point?
Post by: Bernster on 08 April, 2020, 10:30:06 am
I've been doing a ride every 3 days on my smart trainer, using TrainerRoad, varying between longer steady intervals of 1.5 - 2h and 1 hour high intensity interval sessions, so I'm maintaining cycling fitness.
Having done a 200k every calendar month since getting into Audax in late 2014, it was getting to the point where some of the winter DIYs were becoming a means to keep this going, rather than something I was excited about doing (although I find that routing via a new GBG pub 2/3rd of the way through certainly helps with motivation). I'm hoping this enforced break will give me some renewed enthusiasm, and depending on when restrictions are lifted, I might look to fit in a 2020 SR, since I've done at least one a year since 2015.
Post by: jimmea on 08 April, 2020, 10:36:04 am
Jan 825km
Feb 522km (poor weather)
Mar 1100km
Apr 350km so far
Post by: BrawleyBurst on 08 April, 2020, 12:00:41 pm
I'd never previously used a turbo trainer and never quite saw the point of them, unless there is snow and ice all over the place I've always togged up and got out on the bike.
But now that I can't get out I am enjoying the turbo trainer.
I've invested in The Sufferfest training software and I am currently working through an initial four week training schedule.
Most of the training rides are accompanied by immersive footage of real rides in France, Belgium, Italy and the Netherlands which I can watch on my iPad with suitable music on the soundtrack.
But before I started using The Sufferfest I did find pedalling for an hour whilst staring at my garage wall was definitely not stimulating.
Post by: IanDG on 08 April, 2020, 12:51:38 pm
Post by: toontra on 08 April, 2020, 01:49:40 pm
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
Post by: SR Steve on 08 April, 2020, 06:24:16 pm
I put my wife’s old Raleigh ladies bike on the turbo and she’s done three 25 minute sessions on it so far. I couldn’t stand going on it until I’d mended my old laptop so I could watch DVDs whilst pedalling. I've only had one turbo session so far, watching The Flying Scotsman for 1 hour 38 minutes, so quite long for a first go.
Post by: Davef on 08 April, 2020, 06:38:57 pm
Sometimes swap in a run instead.
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Post by: Davef on 08 April, 2020, 07:21:59 pm
I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
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Post by: toontra on 08 April, 2020, 07:27:26 pm
I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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Really? Hadn't seen that. Got a reference?
Post by: Bikeabilityman on 08 April, 2020, 07:30:59 pm
Post by: Davef on 08 April, 2020, 08:20:55 pm
Here is a summary https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11336868/exercise-protect-against-coronavirus/I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
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Really? Hadn't seen that. Got a reference?
I have not read it but skimming it seems a good overview.
The main reasons for avoiding high intensity exercise are SCA and immune system compromise. British cycling are also advising against it as crashes might occur.
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Post by: Phil W on 08 April, 2020, 09:07:03 pm
Here is a summary https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11336868/exercise-protect-against-coronavirus/I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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Really? Hadn't seen that. Got a reference?
I have not read it but skimming it seems a good overview.
The main reasons for avoiding high intensity exercise are SCA and immune system compromise. British cycling are also advising against it as crashes might occur.
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The marathon bit is disputed in that the reason you see a much higher rate of infection is the mass gathering in confined spaces. It’s not the distance or intensity leading to a higher infection rate but the mass gathering aspect. Lack of social distancing at work.
Here is an interesting article on exercise and immune function. There is a link scientific research paper as well for further reading.
https://www.podiumrunner.com/training/how-to-train-and-eat-to-boost-your-immunity-from-coronavirus/
Post by: Davef on 08 April, 2020, 10:05:52 pm
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00008.2007Here is a summary https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11336868/exercise-protect-against-coronavirus/I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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Really? Hadn't seen that. Got a reference?
I have not read it but skimming it seems a good overview.
The main reasons for avoiding high intensity exercise are SCA and immune system compromise. British cycling are also advising against it as crashes might occur.
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The marathon bit is disputed in that the reason you see a much higher rate of infection is the mass gathering in confined spaces. It’s not the distance or intensity leading to a higher infection rate but the mass gathering aspect. Lack of social distancing at work.
Here is an interesting article on exercise and immune function. There is a link scientific research paper as well for further reading.
https://www.podiumrunner.com/training/how-to-train-and-eat-to-boost-your-immunity-from-coronavirus/
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Post by: Phil W on 08 April, 2020, 10:15:42 pm
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2018.00648/full
It’s disputed so make your own choices, which I know you will be doing anyway.
Post by: Davef on 08 April, 2020, 10:26:34 pm
Superseded and disputed by 2018 research. It’s disputed so make your own choices, which I know you will be doing anyway.The paper I linked to was not research as such, it was a summary of 50 or so peer reviewed research papers and I believe the consensus of current understanding. I would like to read 2018 paper you refer to. Do you have the author or a pubmed article number ?
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Post by: TimC on 08 April, 2020, 11:00:49 pm
I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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While I totally agree that we should not be overdoing it, as a matter of common sense, if you're going to state 'NHS guidance is..' you need to give an NHS reference. I haven't seen one. I do see some unsubstantiated excerpts from a tabloid newspaper of doubtful credibility, which I will not on principle take seriously. Honestly, we need better than that.
Post by: toontra on 08 April, 2020, 11:28:51 pm
I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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While I totally agree that we should not be overdoing it, as a matter of common sense, if you're going to state 'NHS guidance is..' you need to give an NHS reference. I haven't seen one. I do see some unsubstantiated excerpts from a tabloid newspaper of doubtful credibility, which I will not on principle take seriously. Honestly, we need better than that.
Ah - hadn't spotted it was from the Sun! I refuse to click the link for moral cleanliness reasons!
And this is DaveF who in another thread is doubting the veracity of advice on the BBC website. Hilarious!
Post by: Davef on 09 April, 2020, 06:17:15 am
I will try to find it on the nhs where I read it. It is not particularly search engine friendly.I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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While I totally agree that we should not be overdoing it, as a matter of common sense, if you're going to state 'NHS guidance is..' you need to give an NHS reference. I haven't seen one. I do see some unsubstantiated excerpts from a tabloid newspaper of doubtful credibility, which I will not on principle take seriously. Honestly, we need better than that.
Ah - hadn't spotted it was from the Sun! I refuse to click the link for moral cleanliness reasons!
And this is DaveF who in another thread is doubting the veracity of advice on the BBC website. Hilarious!
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Post by: Davef on 09 April, 2020, 06:30:45 am
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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While I totally agree that we should not be overdoing it, as a matter of common sense, if you're going to state 'NHS guidance is..' you need to give an NHS reference. I haven't seen one. I do see some unsubstantiated excerpts from a tabloid newspaper of doubtful credibility, which I will not on principle take seriously. Honestly, we need better than that.
Ah - hadn't spotted it was from the Sun! I refuse to click the link for moral cleanliness reasons!
And this is DaveF who in another thread is doubting the veracity of advice on the BBC website. Hilarious!
Down near the bottom :-
do light exercise at home, or outside once a day – see NHS fitness studio: exercises you can do at home
I am sure last time it looked it said moderate, now it says light.
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Post by: Davef on 09 April, 2020, 06:45:41 am
Here is the equivalent article from the telegraph. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/can-exercise-boost-immune-system-much-do-without-making/I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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While I totally agree that we should not be overdoing it, as a matter of common sense, if you're going to state 'NHS guidance is..' you need to give an NHS reference. I haven't seen one. I do see some unsubstantiated excerpts from a tabloid newspaper of doubtful credibility, which I will not on principle take seriously. Honestly, we need better than that.
Ah - hadn't spotted it was from the Sun! I refuse to click the link for moral cleanliness reasons!
And this is DaveF who in another thread is doubting the veracity of advice on the BBC website. Hilarious!
No doubt similar articles will appear on the bbc too.
On the other thread you were saying “stay local” meant do not cycle a long way from your home. The government guidance only uses the words “stay local” with respect to how far you travel by car to get to where you start a walk. As far as I can see the bbc article says exactly the same, but you seem to say it is about how far you should cycle. I believe you said “what part of stay local do you not understand?” and I said that you were using “stay local” out of context.
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Post by: Davef on 09 April, 2020, 07:21:41 am
Superseded and disputed by 2018 research.I am not sure “superseded” is the correct word. The mainstream view is still that high intensity exercise causes a short window of reduced immune system function, but exercise, including high intensity, has long term benefits to the immune system. That paper concludes there is not much evidence for the first part and there is more evidence, including new data from the author, for the second part. Most of the couple of dozen citations seems to either be disagreeing with the conclusion about the first part or agreeing with the second part. Science needs mavericks, even ones that for example question climate change, but ultimately it is the consensus we should all listen too.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2018.00648/full
It’s disputed so make your own choices, which I know you will be doing anyway.
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Post by: S2L on 09 April, 2020, 07:43:58 am
Superseded and disputed by 2018 research.I am not sure “superseded” is the correct word. The mainstream view is still that high intensity exercise causes a short window of reduced immune system function, but exercise, including high intensity, has long term benefits to the immune system. That paper concludes there is not much evidence for the first part and there is more evidence, including new data from the author, for the second part. Most of the couple of dozen citations seems to either be disagreeing with the conclusion about the first part or agreeing with the second part. Science needs mavericks, even ones that for example question climate change, but ultimately it is the consensus we should all listen too.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2018.00648/full
It’s disputed so make your own choices, which I know you will be doing anyway.
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So basically, if you do high intensity, then don't go to the supermarket until the day after... :thumbsup:
Post by: Davef on 09 April, 2020, 07:54:10 am
Difficult to know. 3-72hours after but also before. Other reasons against high intensity exercise is accident (cf British cycling) and the increased risk of sudden cardiac arrest. People will ignore it anyway but the general advice is take it easy.Superseded and disputed by 2018 research.I am not sure “superseded” is the correct word. The mainstream view is still that high intensity exercise causes a short window of reduced immune system function, but exercise, including high intensity, has long term benefits to the immune system. That paper concludes there is not much evidence for the first part and there is more evidence, including new data from the author, for the second part. Most of the couple of dozen citations seems to either be disagreeing with the conclusion about the first part or agreeing with the second part. Science needs mavericks, even ones that for example question climate change, but ultimately it is the consensus we should all listen too.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2018.00648/full
It’s disputed so make your own choices, which I know you will be doing anyway.
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So basically, if you do high intensity, then don't go to the supermarket until the day after... :thumbsup:
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Post by: S2L on 09 April, 2020, 08:06:01 am
Difficult to know. 3-72hours after but also before. Other reasons against high intensity exercise is accident (cf British cycling) and the increased risk of sudden cardiac arrest. People will ignore it anyway but the general advice is take it easy.
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My experience of catching airways viruses (the common cold) is that I was keener when doing lots of miles in cold weather, not necessarily high intensity, just lots of hours on the bike before/after mixing with my students. Generally feeling tired, maybe not eating particularly well and overall a bit run down
This year my commute has been a lot shorter and health-wise it has been a lot better.
Which reinforces my belief that too many hours on the bike are not good, especially when it's cold... intensity doesn't seem to be an issue, as long as I keep it short...
Post by: Davef on 09 April, 2020, 08:15:52 am
Yep, that too. endurance events though at not at high intensity have an even longer window of depressed immunity. So no extremes of intensity or duration for the time being.
Difficult to know. 3-72hours after but also before. Other reasons against high intensity exercise is accident (cf British cycling) and the increased risk of sudden cardiac arrest. People will ignore it anyway but the general advice is take it easy.
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My experience of catching airways viruses (the common cold) is that I was keener when doing lots of miles in cold weather, not necessarily high intensity, just lots of hours on the bike before/after mixing with my students. Generally feeling tired, maybe not eating particularly well and overall a bit run down
This year my commute has been a lot shorter and health-wise it has been a lot better.
Which reinforces my belief that too many hours on the bike are not good, especially when it's cold... intensity doesn't seem to be an issue, as long as I keep it short...
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Post by: Peat on 09 April, 2020, 08:30:48 am
So much so, that I now carry a 1000mg VitC & Quercetin tablet with me on long rides to pop about 2/3rds in. Probably hokum, but I certainly worry less about "Oh god, what's that?" with every sniff or clearing of my throat.
Post by: Greenbank on 09 April, 2020, 09:39:21 am
I think there's a few mentions of it in Michael Hutchinson's Faster and the Brownlees were famously fueled by chocolate milk early on in their career.
For Audax I'd finish and try to source something like a Frijj milkshake from a train station or petrol station.
1. This often appears in "exercise myths debunked" lists but that often concerns the immediacy of the protein intake, most places agree that increased protein intake is a good thing. Anyway, it works for me.
Post by: Peat on 09 April, 2020, 09:46:04 am
A Choc milk and Pork Pie pitstop at a garage is heavenly.
Post by: Phil W on 09 April, 2020, 11:12:23 am
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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While I totally agree that we should not be overdoing it, as a matter of common sense, if you're going to state 'NHS guidance is..' you need to give an NHS reference. I haven't seen one. I do see some unsubstantiated excerpts from a tabloid newspaper of doubtful credibility, which I will not on principle take seriously. Honestly, we need better than that.
Ah - hadn't spotted it was from the Sun! I refuse to click the link for moral cleanliness reasons!
And this is DaveF who in another thread is doubting the veracity of advice on the BBC website. Hilarious!
Down near the bottom :-
do light exercise at home, or outside once a day – see NHS fitness studio: exercises you can do at home
I am sure last time it looked it said moderate, now it says light.
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We have to remember whom NHS advice is aimed at. A vastly majority population who do not exercise at all. So light exercise would be advisable for a normally sedentary individual.
Post by: TimC on 09 April, 2020, 01:53:55 pm
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/I'm sticking to my 15-mile loop of north London (taking in Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill & Swain's Lane) every 2 days. Managed a PB on Sunday thanks to lack of traffic! It's not far but I treat it as a TT so pretty knackering.The NHS guidance is that the exercise currently should only be of moderate intensity. They define moderate intensity as at a level where you can talk but not sing.
Alternate days running in Highbury Fields (still open!).
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While I totally agree that we should not be overdoing it, as a matter of common sense, if you're going to state 'NHS guidance is..' you need to give an NHS reference. I haven't seen one. I do see some unsubstantiated excerpts from a tabloid newspaper of doubtful credibility, which I will not on principle take seriously. Honestly, we need better than that.
Ah - hadn't spotted it was from the Sun! I refuse to click the link for moral cleanliness reasons!
And this is DaveF who in another thread is doubting the veracity of advice on the BBC website. Hilarious!
Down near the bottom :-
do light exercise at home, or outside once a day – see NHS fitness studio: exercises you can do at home
I am sure last time it looked it said moderate, now it says light.
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I note that’s in the ‘advice to everybody’ section, and I read that as advising everyone to do at least light exercise daily, not limit your exercise to only light exercise. I see no limits regulated anywhere, and only one opinion from our political masters (Gove) on what the duration might be. I’m not making a case for riding long distances, or going out and doing intense interval training, I’m simply saying there are no published limits or guidelines, and that we must each make our own decisions as to what’s appropriate. For me, my normal regime works well and is unlikely to raise any eyebrows!
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Post by: De Sisti on 10 April, 2020, 05:57:42 pm
I have seen one or two comments referring exercise being restricted to an hour. This is in fact a myth and something repeated by certain media channels but is not based on fact. Government has not specified the amount of time permitted for exercise. Please take time read its guidance or The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England), Regulations 2020 (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/made) where permitted activities and power of arrest, etc, can be found. These outline permitted activities in law and not by media or personal opinion. We should be careful not to perpetuate misinformation.There's a twitter posting of a South Yorkshire Policewoman telling a bloke that he can't play/exercise
with his kids in his own front garden.
https://twitter.com/grandad1975/status/1248247686563631104
Post by: TimC on 10 April, 2020, 09:11:00 pm
The law simply says you must not leave your home unless you have a reasonable excuse and exercise is one example given. Whether exercising by going out to play darts several times a day or going fishing are reasonable is not specified. There is considerable official guidance both written and in response to questions at the daily briefings on what forms of exercise, frequency and duration are reasonable. It is not law but it is likely to influence what the police or a court consider reasonable.
Firstly, opinions are not law. Exercise is not given 'as an example' of why you may leave your home, it is a specifically and legally mandated reason. No legal guidance whatsoever is given about duration, but you may only do it once a day. Cycling for shopping or commuting does not count for that once a day. There is no ambiguity about whether or not you are exercising when you are riding a bicycle, and I can't see anyone getting that interested in whether or not your ride counts as sufficiently close to home as long as you are actually riding your bike, and not carrying it on a motor vehicle. Conclusion: ride your bike if you want to, on your own, away from population, and at an intensity and for a duration that you feel is appropriate. My guess is you'll never be called upon to justify it.
Post by: rob on 10 April, 2020, 09:16:49 pm
I’ve seen the odd police car, but there has been no interest.
Post by: eckagain on 10 April, 2020, 10:36:58 pm
Just out of interest, has anyone been stopped by the police yet ?.
I thought I was about to be stopped a couple of weeks ago, before the advice was a bit clearer. I was riding from home to the outskirts of Dundee to deliver a birthday present to a friend (well to her doorstep) who is a carer for her mum. It's a round trip of about 60km. Rounding a bend on a lane near Dundee, here comes a polis car towards me... as they slowed right down and gave me a long hard stare, I started to mentally rehearse my defence. Then they flashed their headlights, gave me a big grin and a thumbs up and sped off. :thumbsup: 8)
Post by: zigzag on 10 April, 2020, 10:41:38 pm
Just out of interest, has anyone been stopped by the police yet ?
i was. there was a tractor installing road blocks and the police kept me stopped until it was safe to proceed.
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Post by: Feanor on 10 April, 2020, 10:44:31 pm
They include the club (cancelled) Evening League TT courses, and I've TTd one of them already, the 10 mile.
I'm doing a solo Not The Evening League.
25 next week, I think.
At the weekend, Mrs F, Junior and I will do local 100k loops.
Post by: Davef on 10 April, 2020, 10:49:09 pm
Why must you do it only once a day ?The law simply says you must not leave your home unless you have a reasonable excuse and exercise is one example given. Whether exercising by going out to play darts several times a day or going fishing are reasonable is not specified. There is considerable official guidance both written and in response to questions at the daily briefings on what forms of exercise, frequency and duration are reasonable. It is not law but it is likely to influence what the police or a court consider reasonable.
Firstly, opinions are not law. Exercise is not given 'as an example' of why you may leave your home, it is a specifically and legally mandated reason. No legal guidance whatsoever is given about duration, but you may only do it once a day. Cycling for shopping or commuting does not count for that once a day. There is no ambiguity about whether or not you are exercising when you are riding a bicycle, and I can't see anyone getting that interested in whether or not your ride counts as sufficiently close to home as long as you are actually riding your bike, and not carrying it on a motor vehicle. Conclusion: ride your bike if you want to, on your own, away from population, and at an intensity and for a duration that you feel is appropriate. My guess is you'll never be called upon to justify it.
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Post by: Davef on 10 April, 2020, 11:10:46 pm
The form,duration and frequency is given in guidance both oral and written as to what is reasonable.
You can argue that doing a 600km bike ride or playing darts 6 times a day is a reasonable excuse, as the legislation says reasonable excuses include “exercise alone or with members of your family”. I suspect you would fail in both cases. You could argue that the 600km bike ride is more reasonable than darts because the written guidance says once a day and cycling and the guidance on duration was only given orally in response to a question. I am not sure legally there is a great deal of difference.
I agree it is unlikely this to ever be tested.
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Post by: TimC on 10 April, 2020, 11:28:49 pm
At the end of the day, it's down to your own judgement and conscience what is acceptable and appropriate. It's not for me or you to attempt to influence anyone towards any particular answer, though it may be ok to suggest factors they might like to bring into consideration while they're making that personal judgement. Nor is it ok to say 'this is what I'm doing; you should not be doing more'. I have my own opinions of what is appropriate, and I will apply that to my own riding. It may be more or less than your judgement, but that's ok. If the law changes, I'll adapt to whatever the new instructions are. If that's a total ban, so be it.
Post by: Davef on 10 April, 2020, 11:42:26 pm
You are correct the guidance you posted later does not use the word “reasonable” at all.
You are incorrect to say the guidance published is law. It has not been raised as a bill nor enacted. This is also true of what members of the cabinet have said.
However if you do not follow the guidance you could well be guilty of a crime under the legislation as a court would take the guidance into account in assessing the reasonableness of your excuse.
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Post by: Kim on 10 April, 2020, 11:58:48 pm
Just out of interest, has anyone been stopped by the police yet ?
I’ve seen the odd police car, but there has been no interest.
I've seen plenty of police cars, and have passed several police (and plastic police) on foot. The only interest I've had was a nod of encouragement from one of them.
I'm not sure if riding a recumbent makes a difference to likely attitudes, but it's certainly attention-getting.
Post by: TimC on 11 April, 2020, 12:27:28 am
Section 6 paragraph 1 of the covid legislation referenced in first post uses the words “reasonable excuse” twice.
You are correct the guidance you posted later does not use the word “reasonable” at all.
You are incorrect to say the guidance published is law. It has not been raised as a bill nor enacted. This is also true of what members of the cabinet have said.
However if you do not follow the guidance you could well be guilty of a crime under the legislation as a court would take the guidance into account in assessing the reasonableness of your excuse.
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As you say in your first sentence, it is legislation: it is law. It was enacted on the 25 March 2020 as ‘The Coronavirus Act 2020’. Without that legal status, the police could not enforce any of these instructions, and would be limited to simply advising the public as to what they should and shouldn’t do. However, the utterances of any politician that go beyond the statements in the instruction have no legal status. There is no central, government-issued document that goes into greater detail about what is and what is not allowed, and which could in any way be used as reinforcing evidence as to whether a cyclist had committed a crime by riding their bike. Indeed, the UK Government has been scrupulous in avoiding making detailed specifications, simply (I suspect) because to do so would leave exploitable loopholes and would lessen the reliance on personal discipline.
As I think I’ve said before, I’m not arguing for anyone going out and doing long rides (whatever ‘long’ is for you). I’m simply pointing out that they are not expressly forbidden in a way which is clear and unequivocal. It is left to personal judgement and conscience.
Post by: rafletcher on 11 April, 2020, 09:49:54 am
Just out of interest, has anyone been stopped by the police yet ?
I’ve seen the odd police car, but there has been no interest.
I've seen plenty of police cars, and have passed several police (and plastic police) on foot. The only interest I've had was a nod of encouragement from one of them.
I'm not sure if riding a recumbent makes a difference to likely attitudes, but it's certainly attention-getting.
Apparently Police were stopping cyclists wanting to ride up Box Hill yesterday. I’ve not seen an explanation as to why that might be.
Post by: grams on 11 April, 2020, 09:56:40 am
I’ve passed a lot of police around London and none of them have shown the slightest bit of interest. They seem to be going after pedestrians and people enjoying parks more than is acceptable to the tabloids.
Post by: Greenbank on 11 April, 2020, 12:13:07 pm
However if you do not follow the guidance you could well be guilty of a crime under the legislation as a court would take the guidance into account in assessing the reasonableness of your excuse.
I think the analogy would be to the Highway code:-
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/introduction
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Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’. In addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence. See an explanation of the abbreviations.
Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts (see The road user and the law) to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’.
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The second paragraph is key (this was an analogy remember...)
The argument that you may run foul of is the interpretation of "reasonable excuse". A specific police officer / court / judge may decide that going out cycling once per day is "reasonable" but going out for a second/third/fourth time is not. If you got out more than once you run the risk of someone's interpretation landing you in trouble.
Take the person who recently got done for driving from Nottingham to London and back "to buy bread". The speeding fine was obvious, but they were also fined for an unnecessary journey despite driving not being banned by any of the laws:-
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-10/how-do-the-coronavirus-lockdown-rules-differ-across-the-uk/
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Can I go for a drive?
...
But none of the laws in force in any part of the UK address the use of cars or vehicles at all and do not forbid members of the public from using their cars to “go for a drive” or travel to a location by car to exercise.
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Also remember that people do get arrested and convicted incorrectly, c.f. Daniel Cadden here. Being eventually cleared upon appeal is all well and good but it creates a huge amount of angst, stress and trouble along the way.
Finally be aware that the law in Wales is specific about only permitting exercise "no more than once a day".
Post by: TimC on 11 April, 2020, 12:38:24 pm
My interpretation (and it is only mine) is that your period of exercise should probably not be longer than an average fitness class or, say, the sessions you would find in apps like TrainerRoads, Zwift, Sufferfest, etc. I think it would be easy to justify a ride of 1-1.5 hours using those as supporting evidence. Beyond 1.5 hours it would get less easy to justify, and the claims by one or two people I’ve read that ‘my normal ride is 200km so that’s what I’m planning on’ would be very difficult to justify were you ever asked to do so in a legal context - much like the guy driving 110 miles ‘to get bread’. However, also like him, if you don’t bring yourself to the attention of the Police (in his case by excessive speed), it seems incredibly unlikely that this would ever be tested.
Which is why I stick to the principle that your rides (or runs, or outdoor Yoga sessions) are a matter of personal conscience, and - for the moment - should not be dictated by anyone else.
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Post by: TimC on 11 April, 2020, 01:22:15 pm
The Highway Code analogy is a good one. That is precisely what I was trying to say but not getting across. The guidance is not the law but by not following it you could be breaking the law.
It's only a good analogy if the guidance is clear, unambiguous, and published in authoritative document.
Post by: Phil W on 11 April, 2020, 02:01:05 pm
The Highway Code analogy is a good one. That is precisely what I was trying to say but not getting across. The guidance is not the law but by not following it you could be breaking the law.
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Highway Code
Rule 59
Clothing. You should wear
a cycle helmet which conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened
appropriate clothes for cycling. Avoid clothes which may get tangled in the chain, or in a wheel or may obscure your lights
light-coloured or fluorescent clothing which helps other road users to see you in daylight and poor light
reflective clothing and/or accessories (belt, arm or ankle bands) in the dark.
If you didn’t follow any of this guidance which laws would you be breaking?
Post by: mattc on 11 April, 2020, 02:19:34 pm
Yesterday, I didn't ride my bike. :(
Only the 2nd time this year (can't remember the previous time, it was probably around New Year?)
Still had a good day, N&I went for about a 3hr walk. Once we cleared about half-a-mile of home we had the footpaths and lanes to ourselves, glorious.
Post by: TimC on 11 April, 2020, 02:29:53 pm
The Highway Code analogy is a good one. That is precisely what I was trying to say but not getting across. The guidance is not the law but by not following it you could be breaking the law.
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Highway Code
Rule 59
Clothing. You should wear
a cycle helmet which conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened
appropriate clothes for cycling. Avoid clothes which may get tangled in the chain, or in a wheel or may obscure your lights
light-coloured or fluorescent clothing which helps other road users to see you in daylight and poor light
reflective clothing and/or accessories (belt, arm or ankle bands) in the dark.
If you didn’t follow any of this guidance which laws would you be breaking?
Indeed, and I should have picked up on that. Davef what point are you trying to make? You claim people are breaking the law by riding in some way that you don't make clear, and then you state that the Government rules 'are not law because it hasn't been enacted' (it has). Now you're claiming that disobeying guidance (what guidance?) is breaking the law, and you quite the Highway Code as analogous. It isn't. Please state your case clearly.
Post by: Davef on 11 April, 2020, 03:25:35 pm
1. You started with something along the lines of “there is no legal specification for how long you ride a bike, it is just misinformation published in the media and you included a link to the legislation “the law”
2. I said there is more to it than that, the you need to look at the law (your link) and the guidance issued both written and oral. For example the law does not mention “once per day”
3. You then included a link to the guidance and said “read this” see its in the law it says “once per day”
4. I said, no that’s the guidance that isn’t the law. That isn’t enacted. You also said there is no mention the word “reasonable”.
5. And now we are going around in circles,
In summary I am saying that if you go on a long cycle ride and a policeman stops you (which is very unlikely) and you tell him how long you have ridden (which would be foolish) he may decide that is unreasonable and issue a fixed penalty. You could refuse the penalty and go to court. The defence that “there is no specification of duration in the legislation” would likely fail. The guidance says “the minimum time possible” and when questioned in one of the briefings this was said to be “about an hour” and this has been widely reported. If you go for a couple of hours that is arguably not far off the guidance. If you go for a ten hour ride I would keep quiet about it.
That is my understanding. Yours may be different. I am off for a swim now.
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Post by: Davef on 11 April, 2020, 03:54:31 pm
You wouldn’t be breaking any laws. If you ignore an advisory speed limit you are also not breaking any law either. If however you were involved in an accident, injuring a pedestrian when your superman cape got caught in the chain or they did not see you because of your ninja outfit, the fact you were ignoring something in the Highway Code might mean you are prosecuted for one of the offences about reasonable care. It might also factor in a civil case.The Highway Code analogy is a good one. That is precisely what I was trying to say but not getting across. The guidance is not the law but by not following it you could be breaking the law.
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Highway Code
Rule 59
Clothing. You should wear
a cycle helmet which conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened
appropriate clothes for cycling. Avoid clothes which may get tangled in the chain, or in a wheel or may obscure your lights
light-coloured or fluorescent clothing which helps other road users to see you in daylight and poor light
reflective clothing and/or accessories (belt, arm or ankle bands) in the dark.
If you didn’t follow any of this guidance which laws would you be breaking?
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Post by: Phil W on 11 April, 2020, 04:25:49 pm
You wouldn’t be breaking any laws. If you ignore an advisory speed limit you are also not breaking any law either. If however you were involved in an accident, injuring a pedestrian when your superman cape got caught in the chain or they did not see you because of your ninja outfit, the fact you were ignoring something in the Highway Code might mean you are prosecuted for one of the offences about reasonable care. It might also factor in a civil case.The Highway Code analogy is a good one. That is precisely what I was trying to say but not getting across. The guidance is not the law but by not following it you could be breaking the law.
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Highway Code
Rule 59
Clothing. You should wear
a cycle helmet which conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened
appropriate clothes for cycling. Avoid clothes which may get tangled in the chain, or in a wheel or may obscure your lights
light-coloured or fluorescent clothing which helps other road users to see you in daylight and poor light
reflective clothing and/or accessories (belt, arm or ankle bands) in the dark.
If you didn’t follow any of this guidance which laws would you be breaking?
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Sounds like you are very much responding in this fashion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
I’ll leave you to it, since you don’t have a valid response. I’ll leave you to the ridiculous whataboutery of ninjas and supermen.
Post by: Davef on 11 April, 2020, 04:58:48 pm
I have read that link. It seems to be about trying to make someone sound hypocritical. That was not my intention and I expect not yours when you said “what about rule 59”. I am not aware if ignoring rule 59 has been used in any prosecutions, other rules have. I was just giving examples of how it could be. It has certainly been referenced in civil cases to show contributory negligence to attempt to reduce injury claims.You wouldn’t be breaking any laws. If you ignore an advisory speed limit you are also not breaking any law either. If however you were involved in an accident, injuring a pedestrian when your superman cape got caught in the chain or they did not see you because of your ninja outfit, the fact you were ignoring something in the Highway Code might mean you are prosecuted for one of the offences about reasonable care. It might also factor in a civil case.The Highway Code analogy is a good one. That is precisely what I was trying to say but not getting across. The guidance is not the law but by not following it you could be breaking the law.
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Highway Code
Rule 59
Clothing. You should wear
a cycle helmet which conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened
appropriate clothes for cycling. Avoid clothes which may get tangled in the chain, or in a wheel or may obscure your lights
light-coloured or fluorescent clothing which helps other road users to see you in daylight and poor light
reflective clothing and/or accessories (belt, arm or ankle bands) in the dark.
If you didn’t follow any of this guidance which laws would you be breaking?
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Sounds like you are very much responding in this fashion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
I’ll leave you to it, since you don’t have a valid response. I’ll leave you to the ridiculous whataboutery of ninjas and supermen.
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Post by: mattc on 11 April, 2020, 07:25:10 pm
Lockdown personality disorder - I am awaiting an official diagnosis so that I can be prescribed an extra dose of exercise.;D
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Post by: bludger on 11 April, 2020, 08:47:09 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/cMOY90K.png)
I need to step it up if I'm going to hit last year's distance but that's probably not possible now I'm a rEspOnsIblE aDuLt again.
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Post by: LMT on 14 April, 2020, 01:31:57 pm
Did anyone see the Sunday Times article about the pernicious evil of people on Strava cycling?
I know that the photo is bullshit, taken with long lens. At first glance it looks like a group but those riders are strung out along the road.
Post by: bludger on 14 April, 2020, 02:14:47 pm
Did anyone see the Sunday Times article about the pernicious evil of people on Strava cycling?
I know that the photo is bullshit, taken with long lens. At first glance it looks like a group but those riders are strung out along the road.
https://twitter.com/Francis_Cade/status/1247074170648891392?s=19
It doesn't matter how little or how close to home you ride. The princess murdering pap scum will get you anyway.
Post by: TimC on 14 April, 2020, 10:33:13 pm
Did anyone see the Sunday Times article about the pernicious evil of people on Strava cycling?
I know that the photo is bullshit, taken with long lens. At first glance it looks like a group but those riders are strung out along the road.
ZigZag was closed tonight
I’d understood that it was going to be closed for the Easter weekend, so I was a little surprised by those photos. Was it in fact open?
Post by: rob on 15 April, 2020, 09:59:40 am
Did anyone see the Sunday Times article about the pernicious evil of people on Strava cycling?
I know that the photo is bullshit, taken with long lens. At first glance it looks like a group but those riders are strung out along the road.
ZigZag was closed tonight
I’d understood that it was going to be closed for the Easter weekend, so I was a little surprised by those photos. Was it in fact open?
It was definitely closed Easter weekend. I went up there the weekend before and there were maybe 10 riders on the climb and quite a few sat enjoying the view at the top. I suspect the photos are older than that.
Post by: Phixie on 15 April, 2020, 05:36:54 pm
Clearly, this will last throughout this month and it may well be extended in May, depending on how the pandemic progresses.
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Post by: rob on 19 April, 2020, 10:13:38 am
Think I'll head that way tomorrow - fixed! ;D
I got as far as the roundabout at the bottom yesterday before retracing home. There were noticeably less cyclists in the area but it was also cloudy and cooler than it has been.
Post by: bludger on 20 April, 2020, 04:14:33 pm
I did some regents loops today to see if the front brake was right - not quite there, a few more bleed cycles should do it.
Post by: drossall on 20 April, 2020, 05:05:02 pm
That is my understanding. Yours may be different. I am off for a swim now.How many lengths are you allowed? :demon: :demon: :demon:
Getting back to the point, I'm not riding at all. It hardly seems worth it for a short time, so I've gone back to walking (which I enjoy) - I've a loop of a bit over 4 miles that I can do in about an hour - and an exercise bike.
Post by: S2L on 20 April, 2020, 06:20:04 pm
That is my understanding. Yours may be different. I am off for a swim now.How many lengths are you allowed? :demon: :demon: :demon:
Getting back to the point, I'm not riding at all. It hardly seems worth it for a short time, so I've gone back to walking (which I enjoy) - I've a loop of a bit over 4 miles that I can do in about an hour - and an exercise bike.
Are you a fan of Gove or you have a self imposed 1 hour time limit on exercise?
Post by: drossall on 20 April, 2020, 07:34:52 pm
Post by: S2L on 21 April, 2020, 06:15:50 am
Errr, dunno. I'm trying to balance lots of things, including rules, recommendations, my available time and the views of others closer to me than (sorry) even the most respected members here. But available time is quite important.
I try to balance too, but I make sure the time I spend out is worth it
Post by: Jaded on 25 April, 2020, 09:27:45 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52416541
Post by: S2L on 25 April, 2020, 01:15:09 pm
Hopefully none of you live in Wales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52416541
Yeah, I've seen it... what is a reasonable walking distance... is 6 miles (2 hour walk) OK? If so, Pi tells me that it is possible to do a single loop of up to 37.6 miles, provided roads are nicely distributed, which is obviously not the case in Wales... should be possible to do a couple of 15-20 mile loops in many cases
Post by: Phixie on 10 May, 2020, 06:33:38 pm
Regards.
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Post by: S2L on 10 May, 2020, 06:56:23 pm
When I passed the bottom of the Zig Zag up Box Hill yesterday I checked the closure details. The council has extended the closure for all non-residential traffic for six months from 1st May. So it's now out for the rest of the season (and then some.) ;-(
Regards.
Why 6 months? Tw@ts
Post by: bludger on 10 May, 2020, 06:57:06 pm
When I passed the bottom of the Zig Zag up Box Hill yesterday I checked the closure details. The council has extended the closure for all non-residential traffic for six months from 1st May. So it's now out for the rest of the season (and then some.) ;-(I rode out there today with an aim to ride up it fixed, and then found the signage....
Regards.
As I was turning to head on some Fuckwit went and just blew past the sign. :facepalm:
Post by: Davef on 10 May, 2020, 07:35:36 pm
There is of course a (small) possibility they lived there.When I passed the bottom of the Zig Zag up Box Hill yesterday I checked the closure details. The council has extended the closure for all non-residential traffic for six months from 1st May. So it's now out for the rest of the season (and then some.) ;-(I rode out there today with an aim to ride up it fixed, and then found the signage....
Regards.
As I was turning to head on some Fuckwit went and just blew past the sign. :facepalm:
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Post by: Greenbank on 10 May, 2020, 07:58:59 pm
(As I can easily work from home, and did 50% of the time before the lockdown, it looks like I'll be working from home all the time for the foreseeable.)
Part of me also wants to do zero cycling and then see just how much I fall (and how quickly I can pick back up) once the local gym (and access to a Wattbike and spinning classes) opens again.
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Post by: Whitedown Man on 11 May, 2020, 04:31:09 am
When I passed the bottom of the Zig Zag up Box Hill yesterday I checked the closure details. The council has extended the closure for all non-residential traffic for six months from 1st May. So it's now out for the rest of the season (and then some.) ;-(
Regards.
Is the closure weekends only, or weekdays too?
Post by: Phixie on 11 May, 2020, 02:16:40 pm
Regards.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 12 May, 2020, 08:17:43 am
I have, however, with reference to not travelling too far from home, carrying on social distancing, but being allowed to exercise as much as you like (if that was what Sunday did actually say?), used Ride with GPS to prove that I can ride 300km in a continuous loop without intersections or crossings around the borough of Basingstoke and Deane staying pretty much on rural roads. Another of those great ideas that will probably never be ridden but was fun composing. O:-)
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 12 May, 2020, 11:26:05 am
Got a 100 mile ride on on Saturday, filled up the camelback with water and food before starting, and didn't need to buy anything on the way.
Post by: TimC on 12 May, 2020, 12:16:36 pm
A lot less than usual. Am on about 780 miles so far this year, whereas normally by mid May I would be on about 2000. I have, on the other hand, rowed almost 500,000 metres on my indoor rower, whereas normally by mid May I would have rowed 50,000. So cycling is at 35% of normal and rowing is at 1000% of normal. No doubt the statistically challenged would now claim that I have been doing much more exercise under lockdown than normal. ;D ;D :facepalm:
I have, however, with reference to not travelling too far from home, carrying on social distancing, but being allowed to exercise as much as you like (if that was what Sunday did actually say?), used Ride with GPS to prove that I can ride 300km in a continuous loop without intersections or crossings around the borough of Basingstoke and Deane staying pretty much on rural roads. Another of those great ideas that will probably never be ridden but was fun composing. O:-)
No, it isn't. If you live in England, it never did. However, in the flurry of clarifications yesterday we were told that we could leave home to exercise as long and as many times as we want, and we can go wherever we want (within England) to do it. I suspect that guidance may be made a bit more restrictive as the implications are better understood but, for now, you are completely free to ride where, and for as long as, you want.
Post by: Greenbank on 12 May, 2020, 12:47:39 pm
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do
"
1.7 Are there restrictions on how far I can travel for my exercise or outdoor activity?
No. You can travel to outdoor open space irrespective of distance. You shouldn’t travel with someone from outside your household unless you can practise social distancing - for example by cycling. Leaving your home - the place you live - to stay at another home is not allowed.
"
Post by: bludger on 12 May, 2020, 12:51:12 pm
The absolute state of this muddled gobbledigook.
The most recent wheeze I've seen is cab drivers hanging translucent plastic between their seat and the back, which does a terrific job of obscuring the rear view mirror.
Post by: rob on 12 May, 2020, 12:53:15 pm
Post by: Greenbank on 12 May, 2020, 12:54:02 pm
The law doesn't say anything about social distancing for example.
Post by: Redlight on 12 May, 2020, 02:29:47 pm
OK, so my 600 DIY perm that stops at my Mum's house for dinner and a kip I a no-no, but my drive t Romney Marsh to train on my TT bike for a few hours looks like it's fine.
You could do the perm, wave hello through the window, and then ride back.
Post by: S2L on 12 May, 2020, 02:50:44 pm
None of this is spelled out in the law, and it rarely ever is.
The law doesn't say anything about social distancing for example.
Fine... is it the right time to have this conversation though?
Basically what you are saying is that if you can afford to pay a lawyer, then you can do pretty much as you please, whereas if you can't, then you have to stick to the guidelines...
I'd say let's all stick to the guidelines for the greater good and leave the lawyers out of the picture
Post by: Greenbank on 12 May, 2020, 02:56:27 pm
None of this is spelled out in the law, and it rarely ever is.
The law doesn't say anything about social distancing for example.
Fine... is it the right time to have this conversation though?
Basically what you are saying is that if you can afford to pay a lawyer, then you can do pretty much as you please, whereas if you can't, then you have to stick to the guidelines...
No, that's not what I was saying.
What I was saying was that many people are justifying their actions as "there's nothing in the law to prevent me from doing it" despite there being strong hints in the guidance not to do those things. That's rather a different viewpoint.
Things will shift a bit from tomorrow (in England at least).
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 12 May, 2020, 10:08:24 pm
A lot less than usual. Am on about 780 miles so far this year, whereas normally by mid May I would be on about 2000. I have, on the other hand, rowed almost 500,000 metres on my indoor rower, whereas normally by mid May I would have rowed 50,000. So cycling is at 35% of normal and rowing is at 1000% of normal. No doubt the statistically challenged would now claim that I have been doing much more exercise under lockdown than normal. ;D ;D :facepalm:
I have, however, with reference to not travelling too far from home, carrying on social distancing, but being allowed to exercise as much as you like (if that was what Sunday did actually say?), used Ride with GPS to prove that I can ride 300km in a continuous loop without intersections or crossings around the borough of Basingstoke and Deane staying pretty much on rural roads. Another of those great ideas that will probably never be ridden but was fun composing. O:-)
No, it isn't. If you live in England, it never did. However, in the flurry of clarifications yesterday we were told that we could leave home to exercise as long and as many times as we want, and we can go wherever we want (within England) to do it. I suspect that guidance may be made a bit more restrictive as the implications are better understood but, for now, you are completely free to ride where, and for as long as, you want.
To be honest, I'm having more fun tweaking the route to eke out every extra few hundred metres on RwGPS than I would actually riding it.
Post by: rob on 12 May, 2020, 10:12:49 pm
OK, so my 600 DIY perm that stops at my Mum's house for dinner and a kip I a no-no, but my drive t Romney Marsh to train on my TT bike for a few hours looks like it's fine.
You could do the perm, wave hello through the window, and then ride back.
Wouldn’t be the same without a warm bed and cake. I have been known to post clean kit up. Spoilt ? Moi ?
Post by: Greenbank on 12 May, 2020, 10:54:15 pm
OK, so my 600 DIY perm that stops at my Mum's house for dinner and a kip I a no-no, but my drive t Romney Marsh to train on my TT bike for a few hours looks like it's fine.
You could do the perm, wave hello through the window, and then ride back.
Wouldn’t be the same without a warm bed and cake. I have been known to post clean kit up. Spoilt ? Moi ?
I once attempted a DIY 400 down to my in-laws (Cornwall) that stopped at my parents at the ~200km mark. I'd planned on having a shower, something nice to eat and a quick couple of hours kip before heading off again in the very early morning (I was trying to time it to reach Dartmoor at dawn).
The reality was that my parents had just had their kitchen and bathroom floors retiled and both were off limits. No shower and no food. I was also an hour and a half later than I'd planned and so the fish and chips they'd kindly bought for me was a little cold (and no way to heat it up again). Once I was up again I think I managed another 40km before I bailed.
Post by: TimC on 13 May, 2020, 11:28:25 am
A lot less than usual. Am on about 780 miles so far this year, whereas normally by mid May I would be on about 2000. I have, on the other hand, rowed almost 500,000 metres on my indoor rower, whereas normally by mid May I would have rowed 50,000. So cycling is at 35% of normal and rowing is at 1000% of normal. No doubt the statistically challenged would now claim that I have been doing much more exercise under lockdown than normal. ;D ;D :facepalm:
I have, however, with reference to not travelling too far from home, carrying on social distancing, but being allowed to exercise as much as you like (if that was what Sunday did actually say?), used Ride with GPS to prove that I can ride 300km in a continuous loop without intersections or crossings around the borough of Basingstoke and Deane staying pretty much on rural roads. Another of those great ideas that will probably never be ridden but was fun composing. O:-)
No, it isn't. If you live in England, it never did. However, in the flurry of clarifications yesterday we were told that we could leave home to exercise as long and as many times as we want, and we can go wherever we want (within England) to do it. I suspect that guidance may be made a bit more restrictive as the implications are better understood but, for now, you are completely free to ride where, and for as long as, you want.
To be honest, I'm having more fun tweaking the route to eke out every extra few hundred metres on RwGPS than I would actually riding it.
;D
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 15 May, 2020, 10:20:53 am
A lot less than usual. Am on about 780 miles so far this year, whereas normally by mid May I would be on about 2000. I have, on the other hand, rowed almost 500,000 metres on my indoor rower, whereas normally by mid May I would have rowed 50,000. So cycling is at 35% of normal and rowing is at 1000% of normal. No doubt the statistically challenged would now claim that I have been doing much more exercise under lockdown than normal. ;D ;D :facepalm:
I have, however, with reference to not travelling too far from home, carrying on social distancing, but being allowed to exercise as much as you like (if that was what Sunday did actually say?), used Ride with GPS to prove that I can ride 300km in a continuous loop without intersections or crossings around the borough of Basingstoke and Deane staying pretty much on rural roads. Another of those great ideas that will probably never be ridden but was fun composing. O:-)
No, it isn't. If you live in England, it never did. However, in the flurry of clarifications yesterday we were told that we could leave home to exercise as long and as many times as we want, and we can go wherever we want (within England) to do it. I suspect that guidance may be made a bit more restrictive as the implications are better understood but, for now, you are completely free to ride where, and for as long as, you want.
To be honest, I'm having more fun tweaking the route to eke out every extra few hundred metres on RwGPS than I would actually riding it.
;D
It's reached 344km and would need major surgery to find much more. The route looks a little bit like a Jackson Pollock design for a Mobius Strip. With all the junctions and a surprising amount of climbing, I'd need pretty much all the daylight on June 21 to get round it and perhaps then some.
Post by: drossall on 15 May, 2020, 01:54:14 pm
Post by: Whitedown Man on 20 May, 2020, 01:05:23 pm
When I passed the bottom of the Zig Zag up Box Hill yesterday I checked the closure details. The council has extended the closure for all non-residential traffic for six months from 1st May. So it's now out for the rest of the season (and then some.) ;-(
Regards.
The Zig Zag road was open today - lots of cyclists (both roadies and parents with young kids) and walkers. No cafe, but a lot of very posh-looking picnics.
Post by: Greenbank on 20 May, 2020, 01:51:43 pm
Post by: Phixie on 20 May, 2020, 08:16:47 pm
Regards.
Post by: Greenbank on 21 May, 2020, 03:09:26 pm
So it means I might have to dig out a bike and cycle into work and back.
Good news is I can use one of the faster bikes as I don't need to take clothes/etc in. Just need to make sure I take enough tools to be self-sufficient - don't want to have to end up needing to use public transport.
[EDIT] Boo, one of the security guards is going to do it for me. No need to go in now.
Post by: Milkmaid on 27 May, 2020, 02:52:43 am
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Post by: mattc on 27 May, 2020, 07:01:23 pm
Post by: Zed43 on 27 May, 2020, 07:04:12 pm
Post by: mattc on 27 May, 2020, 07:40:11 pm
Solstice in 2020 is on June 20 (that's a Saturday)Oh cool, thanks. (I do always assume it's the 21st. Stupidly.)
(I have also considered riding down to see sunrise over Avebury or Stonehenge. That would mean a VERY pre-dawn start, sadly! )
Post by: Milkmaid on 27 May, 2020, 07:41:12 pm
I'm very much hoping to do a proper long day around the Solstice (i.e. nearest weekend?) I'm less than 150km from the coast, and I've always wanted to get a 300 done in daylight, so that can be the challenge, rather than chasing those ESSENTIAL 3 points ;)I’d like to do similar - preferably Holyhead and back (108 miles each way) but I need the Welsh govt. to relax its lockdown rules to make that route a goer.
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Post by: tonyh on 27 May, 2020, 08:51:43 pm
That would mean a VERY pre-dawn start, sadly!
Matt, I'm sure that you, like me, know that VERY predawn starts are utterly wonderful! But strangely, it seems to be about 7 years since I actually made one >:(
Post by: Davef on 27 May, 2020, 09:35:02 pm
What are the current welsh lockdown rules ? I know they have quietly deleted the “4 or 5 hours would be excessive” and the “must stay within walking distance of your home”.I'm very much hoping to do a proper long day around the Solstice (i.e. nearest weekend?) I'm less than 150km from the coast, and I've always wanted to get a 300 done in daylight, so that can be the challenge, rather than chasing those ESSENTIAL 3 points ;)I’d like to do similar - preferably Holyhead and back (108 miles each way) but I need the Welsh govt. to relax its lockdown rules to make that route a goer.
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Post by: Milkmaid on 27 May, 2020, 09:50:09 pm
It’s ambiguous at best... I think the current wording is something like “exercise within reasonable distance from home” whatever that means. And all exercise to start/finish at home. I was fettling my rear derailleur on a ride recently when the local bobby stopped and questioned me to determine if I was playing by the rules. Thankfully I was only a couple of miles from home so he was happy. I’m doing 99% of my mileage in England at the moment - luckily I’m only a handful of miles from the border.What are the current welsh lockdown rules ? I know they have quietly deleted the “4 or 5 hours would be excessive” and the “must stay within walking distance of your home”.I'm very much hoping to do a proper long day around the Solstice (i.e. nearest weekend?) I'm less than 150km from the coast, and I've always wanted to get a 300 done in daylight, so that can be the challenge, rather than chasing those ESSENTIAL 3 points ;)I’d like to do similar - preferably Holyhead and back (108 miles each way) but I need the Welsh govt. to relax its lockdown rules to make that route a goer.
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Post by: pangolin on 28 May, 2020, 09:28:18 am
It’s ambiguous at best... I think the current wording is something like “exercise within reasonable distance from home” whatever that means. And all exercise to start/finish at home. I was fettling my rear derailleur on a ride recently when the local bobby stopped and questioned me to determine if I was playing by the rules. Thankfully I was only a couple of miles from home so he was happy. I’m doing 99% of my mileage in England at the moment - luckily I’m only a handful of miles from the border.What are the current welsh lockdown rules ? I know they have quietly deleted the “4 or 5 hours would be excessive” and the “must stay within walking distance of your home”.I'm very much hoping to do a proper long day around the Solstice (i.e. nearest weekend?) I'm less than 150km from the coast, and I've always wanted to get a 300 done in daylight, so that can be the challenge, rather than chasing those ESSENTIAL 3 points ;)I’d like to do similar - preferably Holyhead and back (108 miles each way) but I need the Welsh govt. to relax its lockdown rules to make that route a goer.
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Yeah I've been trying to work out if I'm allowed over the Severn bridge to cycle to Tintern and back. Probably leave it a bit longer.
Post by: bairn again on 28 May, 2020, 11:18:47 am
I set myself a target of 1,000km in May which I should achieve all being well over the next few days.
Previous 1,000km+ months will have almost all have been made up chiefly of audax events but this month Ive done just two rides over 100km and getting out more frequently for shorter rides has been very enjoyable.
Ive no particular expectations of audax events returning anytime soon but I've set myself a target of 1,000 miles in June including stepping up my longest rides and using the longer days to get some pre work rides in as well midweek. I like overnight riding but Im not sure its a good idea just yet so may just pencil in 20th June for a "dawn to dark" long un.
Our summer holiday was going to be a trip to Valognes to Semaine Federale but that's been postponed to 2021. If we reach Stage 3 of the exit plan by then we will use those two weeks in August to visit the West Highlands where my mother in law lives and if I do nothing else I hope to finally nail the Five Ferry Fandango https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32484359.
Post by: jimmea on 28 May, 2020, 12:38:33 pm
Im getting out most days, even if its just 20km here and there in civvies.
I set myself a target of 1,000km in May which I should achieve all being well over the next few days.
Previous 1,000km+ months will have almost all have been made up chiefly of audax events but this month Ive done just two rides over 100km and getting out more frequently for shorter rides has been very enjoyable.
Ive no particular expectations of audax events returning anytime soon but I've set myself a target of 1,000 miles in June including stepping up my longest rides and using the longer days to get some pre work rides in as well midweek. I like overnight riding but Im not sure its a good idea just yet so may just pencil in 20th June for a "dawn to dark" long un.
Our summer holiday was going to be a trip to Valonges to Semaine Federale but that's been postponed to 2021. If we reach Stage 3 of the exit plan by then we will use those two weeks in August to visit the West Highlands where my mother in law lives and if I do nothing else I hope to finally nail the Five Ferry Fandango https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32484359.
Planning something similar myself dependant on current situation improving, weather etc etc
Post by: Bobby on 28 May, 2020, 05:07:15 pm
Once it became obvious that RATN wasn't happening my mojo disappeared. I know it's moved to the end of Aug (which seems unlikely to happen), but I cannot easily make that week & real life has been getting in the way, so I'm riding <very little>
On the plus-side, I did plan out how to ride a Virtual version of The Dean 300 on the Rouvy platform - it's there ready for me to ride if I was ever motivated to sit on the Kickr for that long! :)
Post by: sg37409 on 28 May, 2020, 05:20:38 pm
..... I like overnight riding but Im not sure its a good idea just yet so may just pencil in 20th June for a "dawn to dark" long un.
Planning something similar myself dependant on current situation improving, weather etc etc
Ditto
Post by: Flâneur on 28 May, 2020, 05:33:38 pm
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 29 May, 2020, 02:19:08 pm
ScotGov appears to have sneaked in a retrospective restriction of Scots to within 5 miles of home in its alleged easing of lockdown today. Way to go Nikeola ::-)
Yeah, I saw that. ??? I guess I'll stick with running, given that 5 miles barely gets me out of the city.
Post by: bairn again on 29 May, 2020, 04:30:55 pm
ScotGov appears to have sneaked in a retrospective restriction of Scots to within 5 miles of home in its alleged easing of lockdown today. Way to go Nikeola ::-)
Yeah, I saw that. ??? I guess I'll stick with running, given that 5 miles barely gets me out of the city.
I had a detailed read of the guidance when it came out last week https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-framework-decision-making-scotlands-route-map-through-out-crisis/
Under Phase 1 (so from today) we have
Sport, culture and leisure activities : " Unrestricted outdoors exercise adhering to distancing measures. "
Getting Around : "Permitted to travel short distances for outdoor leisure and exercise but advice to stay within a short distance of your local community (broadly within 5 miles) and travel by walk, wheel and cycle where possible. "
Having specifically hear the FM speak on the subject when the framework was announced, the 5 mile limit is intended to stop a stack of folk from towns and cities descending on popular beauty spots eg Greater Glasgow descending on Troon, Edinburgh -> Aberlady etc etc ie its not a rule that says you cant go on a bike ride or run that happens to take you 6+ miles from home.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 29 May, 2020, 05:55:21 pm
Post by: IanDG on 29 May, 2020, 06:25:38 pm
ScotGov appears to have sneaked in a retrospective restriction of Scots to within 5 miles of home in its alleged easing of lockdown today. Way to go Nikeola ::-)
Her comment referred to limiting the distance you travel for exercise. This is from yesterday's brief:
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And you will be able to travel – preferably by walking or cycling - to a location near your local community for recreation. However we are asking you, for now, to please stay within, or close to, your own local area. And don’t use public transport unless it is absolutely necessary.
Now we are not setting a fixed distance limit in law - but our strong advice is not to travel further than around five miles for leisure or recreation.
I only started going out on the road last week after a lot of turbo 'miles'. I'm generally keeping to within a 10km radius of home with only short stretches of road beyond that radius - with planning it would be easy to do a 100 mile ride without coming back into town and without using the same stretch of road twice.
Post by: Kim on 29 May, 2020, 09:42:34 pm
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but Lockdown (and guidance on not going too far from home) has coincided in one of the longest spells of settled weather (certainly in the South of England) that I can recall. Sod's law suggests that we can predict when we will be free to ride where we like by the breaking of the dry spell and a return to monsoon like conditions.
IIRC Basil OTP predicted this back in March.
Post by: mattc on 30 May, 2020, 08:37:49 am
Of course, being British we have to focus on the down side :facepalm:
(With apologies and sympathies to the self-isolaters)
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 30 May, 2020, 09:23:52 am
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but Lockdown (and guidance on not going too far from home) has coincided in one of the longest spells of settled weather (certainly in the South of England) that I can recall. Sod's law suggests that we can predict when we will be free to ride where we like by the breaking of the dry spell and a return to monsoon like conditions.I don't think it has rained once since I bought my turbo trainer, if only I had known I'd have done it years ago
Post by: mattc on 30 May, 2020, 10:25:36 am
Post by: Slimline Saxon on 30 May, 2020, 10:52:08 am
Two walks of shames after fairies visits, close enough to walk home and not bother changing the tubes, one was a double after looking at the scenery and not the road, deep pothole, 4 mile walk home. Luckily I have countryside all around, although there are only two safe routes out of town so I start with them and make up loops as I go along. A local farmshop has a drive through cafe in a barn which is 16 miles away, the longest I have ventured from home.
Post by: Flatlander on 31 May, 2020, 09:36:13 pm
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Post by: Lightning Phil on 01 June, 2020, 04:27:54 pm
This week I should hit 6,000km for the year
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Post by: Milkmaid on 02 June, 2020, 03:43:26 pm
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Post by: Jamesha on 08 June, 2020, 02:45:45 pm
Managed to carry all the food and water required and the absence of stopping at the controls wasn't really an issue.
It felt good to be doing a reasonable distance but my drop in fitness was noticeable - I am going to try to ride a 100km every week this month as I have every Friday off as my company demanded that we take a week's worth of leave before the end of June.
Hopefully this will mean when restrictions are lifted doing a 200km as part of RRTY will not be too difficult.
Post by: 3peaker on 08 June, 2020, 05:18:07 pm
200 miles a week average. including 2 x 200Km, one in April and the other in May to keep my personal RRTY or maybe just sanity going. All door to door with no stopping on the road for shops or anything else other than for road junctions. Having said that all my shopping at home is done on the bike and that has continued but they are only 6 or 7 mile trips. Those could have been 4 mile trips if I didn't have to search or flour or avoid queues but still met even the Welsh rules had they not been essential.I must agree my 200s, 2x Virtual April and May (on Turbo on my drive to support Sue Ryder Hospice) and 1 to Wales (only to the R Wye Border on the Severn Bridge you understand) last Friday for Jun keep my personal monthly 200s continuous. Also, my shopping can be a 6 mile return trip with a rucksack. Could be a resumption of something like normal for England next month?
Post by: Pedal Castro on 08 June, 2020, 07:30:53 pm
Post by: Lightning Phil on 09 June, 2020, 07:11:24 pm