Bron / Broen 3

[PeteB99]

New series starts

BBC4 Sat 21st Nov 9 pm

[Mr Larrington]

(Throws hat in air, shouts "HURRAH")

Though I've read that S3 won't have Rohde in it and not just because his character is in the slammer.

[Mr Larrington]

I knew the transport company boss was a wrong 'un as soon as I clapped eyes on him (I think he's been a villain in some other Scandicrimething) but what's the relationship between the slightly creepy Steve Buscemi wannabe Danish copper and the woman he apparently lives with

[epa611]

Just watched the 1st 2 episodes on iplayer.  Setting up nicely ;-)

[Mrs Pingu]

I knew the transport company boss was a wrong 'un as soon as I clapped eyes on him (I think he's been a villain in some other Scandicrimething) but what's the relationship between the slightly creepy Steve Buscemi wannabe Danish copper and the woman he apparently lives with

Mmm yes they are weird aren't they!

[citoyen]

I knew the transport company boss was a wrong 'un as soon as I clapped eyes on him (I think he's been a villain in some other Scandicrimething)

He was one of the politicians in series 3 of Forbrydelsen.

but what's the relationship between the slightly creepy Steve Buscemi wannabe Danish copper and the woman he apparently lives with

There's a plausible theory being discussed BTL on the grauniad blog but I won't repeat it here in case it's correct and therefore a spoiler.

[Mr Larrington]

I knew the transport company boss was a wrong 'un as soon as I clapped eyes on him (I think he's been a villain in some other Scandicrimething)

He was one of the politicians in series 3 of Forbrydelsen.

The Prime Minister, in fact.  And he's actually Faroese!

but what's the relationship between the slightly creepy Steve Buscemi wannabe Danish copper and the woman he apparently lives with

There's a plausible theory being discussed BTL on the grauniad blog but I won't repeat it here in case it's correct and therefore a spoiler.

I suspect than in an unusual reversal of historic immigration his forbears are from Norfolk and she's his sister

[PeteB99]

but what's the relationship between the slightly creepy Steve Buscemi wannabe Danish copper and the woman he apparently lives with

There's a plausible theory being discussed BTL on the grauniad blog but I won't repeat it here in case it's correct and therefore a spoiler.


I suspect than in an unusual reversal of historic immigration his forbears are from Norfolk and she's his sister

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Haven't read any blogs yet so don't know if this is related but I suspect his seemingly ideal family may have existence issues - they are there when he goes to bed but not when he gets up. Mind you with all the drugs he's on he might dream up anything.

I heard that the first few episodes had been filmed before Martin officially pulled out which might partly explain why Saga's new partner got blown up before she'd got to the end of the first episode.

Things don't look good for Hans

[Mr Larrington]

Thanks to the miracle of television I now know the English equivalents of the Scandiwegian terms "cold case", "chloroform" and "fuck", but I'm even more puzzled about other things, especially how Saga always manages to park bang outside the front door of Malmö cop shop.  I'm 99% sure that the woman at Marc's poker game is the now-retired Counsellor Posh-Hippie from the Gulag.  And I think I saw Lukas' beardy henchman supporting gravel-voiced alt-country cyclist Ben Weaver at the Luminare in Kilburn a couple of years ago.  He played blues guitar and called himself "Svante Sjöblom" but I'm not fooled.

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The creepy motivational speaker was obviously a villain even before he killed anyone utterly to DETH, purely because he bears a startling resemblance to my former The Boss.  He deserves to be stalked by an equally creepy funeral director, the weirdo.

Rikard (aka "Young Stuart Pearce") is clearly just a stooge, which sadly means that the Melanie Phillips-alike blogger is unlikely to be killed utterly to DETH before episode 9.  Still stumped as to what the various gangsters are up to.  Or why Jeanette continues to stick with an obvious twat like Marc.  Or what Morten had to do with anything.  Or who's blackmailing the Naughty Flat-Pack Housing Matriarch.

Also PeteB99 is right: Henrik is seeing ghosties, or he's a loon.  Or both.  Not sure I can cope with two loons and subtitles...

[Mrs Pingu]

Haha, I was right about Henrik's friend in ep 2 

[Pingu]

... especially how Saga always manages to park bang outside the front door of Malmö cop shop...

'Cos nobody else would dare park there, obv.

[PeteB99]

Caught up with eps 3 & 4 last night.

Saga's chat up technique hasn't improved has it and as for her new boss - sensitivity training - seriously?

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Like Mr L the gangsters have me confused
Pregnant lady is coerced into picking up a very heavy bag, contents unknown from the left luggage. It's promptly stolen from her in a traffic jam (don't Scandi cars have deadlocks?) The bags delivered to Buche (from the Killing?) and then taken onto Lukas by the rat haired poker player. Is Buche another gangster or police or secret service?

Anyway
Given Henrik's idea that it is the form of the murders that matters not the actual people being murdered and bearing in mind that in series one the initial politicians being chopped up and homeless people poisoned were just part of a scheme to get back at Martin I think that this is something similar aimed at Saga. The perps are either Saga's mum simply on the grounds that she is a nasty vindictive old bag or Henrik who is the third soldier* from the Killbrothers platoon in Helmand. Morton recognized him, Lukas thought he recognized him and you have to admit he has a very creepy lifestyle.

*I know he is supposed to have committed suicide buts that's nothing that a pile of clothes on a beach and a few years worth of plastic surgery couldn't explain.

Other thoughts
Jeanette needs to find a boyfriend who doesn't go all in on a fairly low full house.
Saga's parking space in front of the building is so her boss is made to park in an underground garage ideal for muggings and abductions.
Anyone who is a motivational speaker deserves to have a creepy stalker.

No need to watch the last 6 episodes now

[Mr Larrington]

I think Jeanette was driving an elderly Renault Twingo so it probably didn't even have central locking, never mind all that new-fangled "lock the doors at 6 mph" gubbins.  I don't think my motor-car does that either and it's a lot newer.  I've only ever encountered it in USAnian hire cars; over there crims will haul you out of your vehicle at the traffic lights and pistol-whip you for the price of a Drugs, or so I've read in the Daily Mail.

Linn is just a bit clueless although Saga doing sensitivity training would supply some excellent joke comedy opportunities.

[PeteB99]

Maybe, my 2004 Honda Civic has them so I assumed most reasonably modern cars would have. Mine are the type you have to switch on from inside but if I was carrying a bag the loss of which would cause serious harm to me or someone I liked I'd deffo be using them.

Just amused that Linn discussing one of her staff with a third party from outside work and then trying to dupe said staff member into attending a service she didn't want to go to is a prime candidate for sensitivity training herself.

[Mr Larrington]

How appropriate that His Bobness' "Ballad Of A Thin Man" should have been on the radio when Jeanette got nabbed, coz I'm with Mr Jones right now.  I'm sure I've seen Fat Freddie's missus before but the Internets say otherwise so perhaps I'm just confusing her with Darcey Bussell.

It's about time Mr Creepy Motivational Speaker got murdered utterly to DETH, because I don't like him.  And Marc as well, because he's a dick.

[Mrs Pingu]

What about Saga's mama?

[Mr Larrington]

I'm inclined to believe Saga on this one i.e. she was a loon.  That Ma Noren said Saga was round her house being beastly when she was at home having secks¹ with Henrik proves it.  Henrik is also a loon, but that's by the by.  Of course having that twerp Rasmus looking over the case files is bound to end badly for someone.  Hopefully Rasmus.

1: That's definitely how she pronounces it.

[Von Broad]

I miss Martin, all that simmering emotion - at least he was somewhere near the slightly more normal end of a troubled soul.
Would he be having secks with Saga? Difficult to say, but I'd be hoping not!
Apart from that - I don't understand any of it 
I'll be there watching next week again though.

[Mr Larrington]

As I recall Martin was something of a rampaging shag monster so if the offer of secks came up I doubt he'd turn it down.  As it is he's only going to get that kind of offer from the person in B-wing with the most cigarettes.

[citoyen]

I kind of miss Martin but this series has been so totally brilliant that he has hardly ever crossed my mind.

Totally baffled by it all though.

[mrcharly-YHT]

I'm fully caught up so can join in the discussion.

Henriks; I loathed him to start with, now I really like him. Yes he is a loon but he actually 'gets' Saga in a fundamental way, as an equal.

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The perp is obviously the motivational speaker's stalkerish girlfriend/fan.

Will Hans die?

Linn should be sacked. Secret discussions with Saga's mum - who has been in jail for abusive treatment of Saga's sister - massively, massively out of order.

[Mr Larrington]

Linn may yet end up get murdered utterly to DETH, of course, which would put a stop to all the sensitivity training nonse.

Current odds on whodunnit:

Someone we haven't met yet: 2-1 on
Creepy Motivational Speaker's Fangrrl: Evens
Creepy Motivational Speaker: 3-1
That Twerp Rasmus: 15-2
Henrik: 10-1
Building Cougar's weirdo mother: 25-1
Tina the paparazzo: 50-1
Fat Freddie's floppy-haired art gallery youth: 100-1
Sarah Lund: 500-1

Still no idea who would want to kill the unfortunate Morten, or why.

[mrcharly-YHT]

Still no idea who would want to kill the unfortunate Morten, or why.

Theory; Lukas Stenstrup put Holst's child at risk. Holt's henchman was ensuring that didn't happen again.

Who was the commanding officer of the 'Kill Brothers'? What is their connection to Holst?
Theory; the commanding officer was guilty of the rape, the Kill Brothers knew, kept it quiet and were paid-off. When they looked unstable, they were killed off.

[PeteB99]

Quite like Henrik now, I really hope that he isn't the killer although I expect Saga will have to dob him in for something at the end of the series as she did Martin.

I suspect the killbrothers platoon is going to be central. Although the killer is re-enacting Freddies art collection it doesn't explain how the distinctly non arty Morten had a copy of the code stuck to his fridge.

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Is there a fourth killbrother? The person who took the photo?

Tina is probably the next victim. Linn needs to be added to MrL's list of odds- Other than she is an incompetent boss we know nothing about her or her background.

The motivational speaker now seems to have two stalkers The more the better.

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Saga and Henrik will now be chasing yellow cars round Sweden and Denmark instead of getting John to trace who sent the text to Saga asking her to meet someone in what looked like a graveyard

Comedy moment

Henrik & Saga - Does this code L397G42 mean anything to you?
Fat Freddie - Yeah it's the number of my swiss bank account
H&S edge towards their guns
FF Only kidding. I haven't got a swiss bank account.

[Fab Foodie]

OK ....
Do we know who all the Kill brothers were or might have been?  Might we make some educated guesses?
Somebody was raped by the commanding officer, how long ago?  Was there a child as a result who might want revenge?  Could it be the Funereal stalker?  I can't figure how she fits into this .... could it have the motivational speaker be the commanding officer who at the same time is trying to extract revenge on FF ....
Maybe I should be watching more closely.