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General Category => The Knowledge => GPS => Topic started by: Cunobelin on 24 July, 2010, 05:56:24 pm

Title: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Cunobelin on 24 July, 2010, 05:56:24 pm
I have a number of gpx routes I loaded for tours last year onto my 705 using Bike Route Toaster

I have deleted them using the menu on the Garmin, and off they go....... until next time I switch it on and like the undead all 20 files are back!

They do not appear on any of the drives when searched by the Mac,.

I cannot get rid of these files ... short of driving a stake through the heart of the 705... any suggestions?
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Aidan on 24 July, 2010, 06:26:04 pm
Sorry, I read it as undead flies ;D

Can't help but it was ever so funny reading it
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Cunobelin on 24 July, 2010, 07:54:12 pm
Sorry, I read it as undead flies ;D

Can't help but it was ever so funny reading it

I meant "undead" as in files that keep on returning from the grave!
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Sigurd Mudtracker on 24 July, 2010, 08:03:50 pm
Might be Apple/Microsoft file incompatibility.  I once had a Creative Zen MP3 player.  Although the Mac would swear it was empty, every time I checked the device it was full of all the old files.  The only way to make it work with the Mac (ie, if I wanted to add podcasts or other music) was to reformat it every time and load on a full set of files again.  Might be a similar problem with your Garmin.  Can you do a reformat and restore, minus your unwanted files?
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Jaded on 24 July, 2010, 10:37:02 pm
Have you looked in the Garmin mass storage disks when the 705 is connected to the Mac? The files could be in a couple of the directories. Garmin, History, Tracks, gpx for example. delete them in the Finder and empty the trash.
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: frankly frankie on 24 July, 2010, 11:10:46 pm
They'll be on the internal memory (which hopefully would appear as a drive, maybe on a Mac you have to mount it?).  Even though you may have loaded them onto the SD card originally, the GPS copies them into internal memory before using them - then you can remove or erase the SD card but they'll still be there in the internal memory.
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Cunobelin on 24 July, 2010, 11:11:02 pm
Thanks folks,

I have been through the directories on  the Mac. Both the Garmin one and the card - nothing.

I think looking at Windows next may be the option.
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Auntie Helen on 05 August, 2010, 09:37:02 am
I had this with my Oregon. The only way I could remove them using the Mac was to trash them, and to then empty the Mac's overall trash. I sometimes found it more convenient to look at it on a PC and bin them from there, which was complete (they were then visible in trashes folders). I also find if I delete the file on the Oregon's menu it still exists on the unit when I plug it in to the mac so have to delete it from there, then empty the trash.
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: frankly frankie on 05 August, 2010, 10:35:35 am
Ah yes I've read about this somewhere.  Apparently a workaround (for Mac users) is to place a FILE called 'trash' onto the device and write-protect it, this suppresses the Mac's urge to put a 'trash' directory on there every time you connect up.  Or something like that.
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Cyklisten on 05 August, 2010, 03:17:25 pm
This applies (on a Mac) to any external drive. You can 'trash' files but must empty the trash while the drive is still attached otherwise they 'reappear' as if by magic. I had this with a video SD card - a bit annoying when you are out and the cam says 'card full'
Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: Cunobelin on 16 August, 2010, 07:27:34 pm
Found the problem!

There was indeed a file g://trashes/501 on the Garmin where these files were stored

Deleted the contents and they have gone!

Yahoo!


Title: Re: Edge 705 - Haunted by "undead files"
Post by: frankly frankie on 16 August, 2010, 11:04:35 pm
They'll be back.
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