See you in Hell :demon:
...I found a pdf of the routesheet from the calendar event
Is the Master of the Unicog sticking to his modus operandi, or has he been overcome with a dose of uncommon sense?
All running to plan:
"After a Weatherspoons breakfast I told Raj from Longfleet Services that I'd hopefully see him again on Thursday - We have lift-off"
can confirm, he is on fixed :o
Two texts came through together...
8:16pm (- but must've been written this afternoon 3pm ish)
"At Halstock 65k in. The hills started after 35k and the roads got properly wessex after 60k - the weather is glorious: sunny with a cool breeze. I'm feeling a bit phlegmy but a night out in the lane should sort that out. I'm taking it steadily and hope to ride through the first night. The original advice of stopping for a sleep at 500km and then at 800km seems a good plan but i started at 13:00 which is 7 hrs earlier than the original start so i just might be able to munch some more k if my balls don't crack"
J
8:33pm
"Just arrived in Minehead 157km Bit of a headwind into town which might have worn me down a little. This second stage wasn't that lumpy but the climbing that there was has also served to wear me down. Just refuelling in Weatherspoons again and them off to Bovey Tracey"
What's the time limit for this - 75 hours?
Best of luck to him - it looks like it will be unseasonably chilly tonight, so I hope he's got the layers to deal with it (being ex-military, I am sure he'll just wrestle one of those badgers to the ground and skin it using only his tyre levers).
is this ride really as hard as described above?
(If he manages this and the maniac, then I can't see anyone being more deserving!).
If it ever ran as an event again, it would be nice to give Wessex SRs priority for entry.
HerE cumz da Badassgers
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Night falls
Furtive calls
Jonah's on the menu
;D
H
is this ride really as hard as described above? i might put it on a bucket list then. keep going Jonah!
3 hours in a cardboard box in an alley in wells.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is the true audax spirit. None of your fancy bus shelters or the like.
3 hours in a cardboard box in an alley in wells.
If it ever ran as an event again, it would be nice to give Wessex SRs priority for entry.
If it ever ran as an event again, what makes you think that anyone other than Wessex SRs would *want* to do it?
72 hours. He could have slept in a piss stained alley for twice as long and still crawled in on time.
I wouldn't like to be in the same train carriage as him on the way back to London. He must have reached peak odour yesterday and since then ripened to a fine vintage of randonneur :)
Top effort! Looks like the boy will get massive amounts of
well-deserved FWC points this season as the AAA points are
added in addition to the dist points! :thumbsup:
Top Chapeau (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/audience-clapping-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Will you be heading North tonight for the double? ;D
Now the dust has settled, what is the climbing figure for the Crackpot that Jonah got?
Steve Snook kindly calculated the AAA before the ride as 13.25
Steve Snook kindly calculated the AAA before the ride as 13.25
So pretty much same as doing Porkers and Brimstone back-to-back. Good grief! :o
The Focus on AAA is wrong.
This ride is the same distance as the HB, Porkers and Dorset Coast. With an extra 100km of Wessexy goodness. Imagine how many wonderful views and charming lanes that means. It is almost inconceivable.
Jonah, is Thurday 28th an evening where you will be telling us of the fine views and rolling vistas experienced en route?
H
It's definitely on list of rides.Its very much on one of my lists.
Jonah, is Thurday 28th an evening where you will be telling us of the fine views and rolling vistas experienced en route?
H
Oh yes :demon:
I'd love to do it again...
Well done Jonah! Looking forward to reading the write up! Your updates certainly brought back some memories of what is was like riding the last episode in 2000! But solo, and on t'cog?!!! Chapeau!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well done Jonah! Looking forward to reading the write up! Your updates certainly brought back some memories of what is was like riding the last episode in 2000! But solo, and on t'cog?!!! Chapeau!!!!!!!!!!!!
Going to write something for Arrive instead
Now the difficult bit. Extracting a GPX track for a 1000km ride from a GPS unit.
Don't worry Jonah, it's in there somewhere! Just don't accidentally select anything that says "reset" or "delete" :demon:
Is it found? If so I don't need to bore you with suggestions. No words to describe that ride.
I'm hoping to do the Wessex SR as Perms between qualifying at WCW next week (I hope) and PBP. I've had to be at work for Porkers and also for Brimstone this weekend. As a Wessex CTC newbie I have been left in no doubt that I should "hold my manhood cheap" (W Shakespeare) If I persist in riding such lesser events. You've inspired me to stop holding my manhood and get on with it.
Cheers
David
The bit where it starts to get crossed out being a right bugger aye?!
I've been reading old Arrivee accounts of the Crackpot and it sounds like a challenge - very Wessex indeed ! Just got to convince the wife and kids ...
Two attempts. 100% completion. One on fixed and lumbered with the aerodynamic disadvantage of a face muffler.Unless you factor in the names involved.
There is only one possible conclusion.
It must be an easy ride.
*cough*
i've done very little cycling in those parts so i'd like to give it a go if it was an organised ride
I followed in Justin’s wheel tracks last week and rode the CrAcKpOt. Bit of a different approach though in that I had gears and started at Ilminster rather than Poole. This allowed me to have overnight stops at Ilminster, West Stafford and Poole to give 4 days of 333km, 298km, 280km and 96km. I was able to leave spare clothing at the stops, travel reasonably light and minimise night riding (2 hrs on 1st day and 4th day only) which helped give a moving time of just under 43 hrs at 23.7km/hr average. I did not sleep on cardboard boxes in an alleyway in Wells, perhaps another time on another ride ;D
The weather was as forecast being warm and dry with only problem being an increasing headwind during day 2 & 3 afternoons – but I’ll take that. My bike was near perfect too with no mechanicals or visitations during the ride.
Day 1 was the toughest with Exmoor and the edge of Dartmoor to tackle. The 95km stage from Minehead to Bovey Tracey is a mutha as Justin said. The following stage to Culmstock is a cracker too. The other days include plenty of the crumpled Wessex countryside as well, although there are sections where you can get some respite there’s many a challenge or surprise along the route.
Many thanks to Pete L for the bed at West Stafford and Drew B for the excellent breakfast at Springfield House.
Anyone else thinking of a CrAcKpOt this year?
Day 1 on way to Bovey
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Day 3 Bulbarrow Hill with mist below
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I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah
I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah
I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah
Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that
H
The inner sanctum from the Kingdom of WessexI'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah
Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that
H
The inner sanctum from the Kingdom of WessexI'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah
Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that
H
The inner sanctum from the Kingdom of WessexI'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah
Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that
H
Are you a man of Dorset, Jonah?
This thread definitely needs a nudge ....
Anyone else have any plans to give it a whirl ?
This thread definitely needs a nudge ....
Anyone else have any plans to give it a whirl ?
I'm definitely in - When were you thinking?
I'm probably nuts, but I'm erring towards early in the new year
QuoteI'm probably nuts, but I'm erring towards early in the new year
Probably? Once did Lejog in November. Wish I'd been able to see. Positive maybe for later.
Have tested the water with Shawn re calendar or even perm. Managed to get one raised eyebrow by way of a no but who knows?
Yeah, I did a Hellfire in November one year. As I waited for my water bottle to melt in the morning winter sun I calculated that by the end of the ride I would have have spent more time in darkness that in the light. However, this being said, an earlier assault would free up the rest of the year aye?!
Yeah, I did a Hellfire in November one year. As I waited for my water bottle to melt in the morning winter sun I calculated that by the end of the ride I would have have spent more time in darkness that in the light. However, this being said, an earlier assault would free up the rest of the year aye?!
Yes - there'll be more dark riding than light in January - 15 hours ? And who knows what the temperature / rainfall / wind etc. will be like going over Exmoor ... but it would indeed free up the spring and summer months.
Don't know what bike & tyre combo I'd do it on either at that time of year. Either way it'd be slow going ... and challenging.
Have we any dates yet?
Have we any dates yet?
1st April start? ;D
Have we any dates yet?
Would be happy to man a control point though if possible :thumbsup:
H
A January start might add more than a little difficulty to the event, especially over the two moors.
It occurs to me that, if Shawn ever thought of reviving it, we could possibly offer a control.
I'm out for the Winter attempt.
I got cold on a pissy 100 the other week and the old electric feeling came back in my arms (does anyone else get this?)/ my arm still hasn't properly recovered from last time and that was May! That's enough excuses. I'll be attempting again at around about the same time of year if anyone else's is in?
Good luck Graham S and fudging good effort for continuing with this!
Best of British!
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !
Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January
It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !
Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January
It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...
That's a Sunday right? What time you startin'?
Go here (http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/Crackpot.html) and click the right-hand badge for a pdf routesheet.
Go here (http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/Crackpot.html) and click the right-hand badge for a pdf routesheet.
That must have been quite something - A Shawn Shaw route sheet for a 1,000k that must have had a fair amount of night riding.
Before the era of satnavs and bright and light LED helmet lights!
Anyone know if there's a GPX of the Crackpot route floating about? Any of the riders who've done it maybe put it on Strava, etc?
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !
Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January
It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !
Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January
It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...
God's speed in your darkened hours G-S
(I was thinking of other wretched souls who were also thrust into darkness and came up with the following list:
The Count of Montecrhisto
Papillon
Terry Waite
The Man in the Iron Mask
...
Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ?Yes:
and another PM, this time from Dorchester
YHPM
Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ?Yes:
Where do I flipping start? You're totally bonkers! Stay home, wash the cat, re-sort your Arrivee collection, read War and Peace.
and another PM, this time from DorchesterYHPM
Good on you, chaps.
Right then. The tyres have been pumped up, the chain oiled and the moustache waxed. I'm as ready to ride the Crackpot as I'll ever be.
I'll start the ride at 8pm this Friday from that spiritual starting place for so many a Wessex ride, the 24 hour BP garage on Longfleet Road.
I'm sticking to the most recent route sheet with the intention of 'doing it proper' - despite the change of date / season etc. ...
Because I'm riding it in the winter, sleeping in a box in a Wells alleyway is out - despite the obvious lure of such accommodation. Instead I have a place to stop and sleep for the second night in Somerton.
The problem I have now is the third night. I don't where I'll be on the road, so booking anything is tricky. I imagine I could be anywhere between Dorchester and Membury Services. The Days Inn at Membury Services is an option, but will they be able to check me in in the small hours ? I've read a review that stated that there was no-one there to check the reviewer in. That's no good. I could stink up the Burger King for a few hours, but I doubt it'll be restful enough at that point. There's a Premier Inn at Dorchester too, but that might be too early after the stop in Somerton. Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ? A new Travelodge in Codford would be great, but sadly there isn't such a thing.
Right then. The tyres have been pumped up, the chain oiled and the moustache waxed. I'm as ready to ride the Crackpot as I'll ever be.
I'll start the ride at 8pm this Friday from that spiritual starting place for so many a Wessex ride, the 24 hour BP garage on Longfleet Road.
I'm sticking to the most recent route sheet with the intention of 'doing it proper' - despite the change of date / season etc. ...
Because I'm riding it in the winter, sleeping in a box in a Wells alleyway is out - despite the obvious lure of such accommodation. Instead I have a place to stop and sleep for the second night in Somerton.
The problem I have now is the third night. I don't where I'll be on the road, so booking anything is tricky. I imagine I could be anywhere between Dorchester and Membury Services. The Days Inn at Membury Services is an option, but will they be able to check me in in the small hours ? I've read a review that stated that there was no-one there to check the reviewer in. That's no good. I could stink up the Burger King for a few hours, but I doubt it'll be restful enough at that point. There's a Premier Inn at Dorchester too, but that might be too early after the stop in Somerton. Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ? A new Travelodge in Codford would be great, but sadly there isn't such a thing.
Hopefully the weather is as mild over in Wessex as it is in the south east.
The level of audacity in taking on this route in the winter is off the scale.
Riding it as a solo DIY is something, let alone doing it in winter.
Looks like it's my turn to watch someone else on a live tracker.
Bad news - I've had to pack. Climbing Dunkery Beacon at night in an icy cloud whilst having the dozies meant I lost even more time than Id been losing earlier. Thought I'd tough it out & see how I felt at Bovey, but I was going to miss the 'control closing' and just couldn't see myself getting the time back later.
Back to the drawing board for another attempt later in the year. At least I've recce'd Dunkery Beacon now.
How on earth did anyone ride the Crackpot on fixed by the way!?
Unlucky, but a good try.
I saw the tracker at Crediton and thought you were a few hours behind, so now I know why.
That section from Minehead to Bovey was probably the toughest of all.
There were 3 of us who rode Crackpot on fixed.
Rob Gray in 2000 (who has since got himself pretty fast and has done 480 in the Mersey 24)
Alan Pedliham in 1998 and 2000
Myself all 3 Crackpots plus a wonky unoficial version where I went off route a fair bit.
There was a bit of walking involved.
Puts away tea and biccies... :'(
A darn site harder that sitting at home reading posts on here, that's for sure. Well done for giving it a go though; reasonable weather or not, January is a challenging month for most of us riding a 200 let alone this one.
If you are looking to attempt this later in the year you are likely to find others keen to join you - including me. :thumbsup:
Back to the drawing board for another attempt later in the year.
Sounds like a plan. How do we organise this so we have dates and controls - especially for sleeping ? As much as I enjoyed sleeping in an emergency tin foil sleeping bag in a bus(?) shelter in Withypool, it'd be a bit cramped for a group and it wasn't fantastically restful ...
Do you have any dates in mind ?
Unlucky, but a good try.
I saw the tracker at Crediton and thought you were a few hours behind, so now I know why.
That section from Minehead to Bovey was probably the toughest of all.
There were 3 of us who rode Crackpot on fixed.
Rob Gray in 2000 (who has since got himself pretty fast and has done 480 in the Mersey 24)
Alan Pedliham in 1998 and 2000
Myself all 3 Crackpots plus a wonky unoficial version where I went off route a fair bit.
There was a bit of walking involved.
Puts away tea and biccies... :'(
Bad news - I've had to pack. Climbing Dunkery Beacon at night in an icy cloud whilst having the dozies meant I lost even more time than Id been losing earlier. Thought I'd tough it out & see how I felt at Bovey, but I was going to miss the 'control closing' and just couldn't see myself getting the time back later.
Back to the drawing board for another attempt later in the year. At least I've recce'd Dunkery Beacon now.
How on earth did anyone ride the Crackpot on fixed by the way!?
Thanks for all the positive vibes folks.
To have tried and to have failed is better than not trying at all. well done.
Never mind. Audax would be less fun if every challenge we start were a guaranteed success.
Good effort Graham and I'm sorry you had to pack! When you're ready, lets get some possible dates for a second assualt
I thought Swiss Hat had do it on fixed? Must have been mistaken.
BB
5-season tyres (no!?, not 'tires' - that means something else) all the way since my last Brimmers assault (9-p*******s between the 2 of us - (I had 4)). I tried those GPX-'4-season' Rizzla Papers on a Hellish perm once but the 'Port Stanley Airport Runway, Circa 1982' style conditions soon put paid to them.
Never having heard of the CrAcKpOt before, I looked up the route on Ride with GPS (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10663412)
Is it supposed to finish just outside the Accident and Emergency entrance of Poole General Hospital?
The first pic is of a sign taken just after the unbelievable climb between Halstock & Hardington Mandeville. I'd never seen that sign before !
My steed for CrAcKpOt, note the gearzzzz ;D
Audacious attempt Graham. I'm sure the experience gained will help with the next attempt. Wait until nearer the summer though eh?
15-17-Apr-2016?
(Nowhere was open in Minehead apparently at 5 a.m. on a Saturday ... unless anyone knows any different - ? )
I'd be happy to pop down to Minehead or somewhere to provide a mobile control for anyone else if required on other attempts though**. (Nowhere was open in Minehead apparently at 5 a.m. on a Saturday ... unless anyone knows any different - ? ) ** Calendar & Mrs GS permitting ;-)
That is a special feature of these rides as Perms.
On the Hellfire, even if you are a moderately good climber and don't hang around, there is nothing open on the route from Taunton Deane services until the Summer cafe in Malmesbury - that's 136km, mostly in the small hours of the morning with nothing other than the food and water you have on you.
Pretty much the same happens overnight on the Porkers with the sections from Taunton Deane down to Winterborne Whitechurch and on to Shrewton - about 130km of nothing open.
If you don't carry provisions with you, you are stuffed.
15-17-Apr-2016?
As for the next attempt ... I'm thinking of possibly trying again at the next full moon (20th Feb).
Don't think I can postpone it because the calendar's filling up.
Got to go for it, never mind the forecast - my time window is running out. Longfleet Rd BP Garage tonight. If a knee-knackered hill crawler such as myself can have a bash perhaps we'll get enough interest for the man to do the thing again..... :thumbsup:
Votes for a calendar ride please :thumbsup:
+1
Just checked into Stourpaine hotel and transport hub. Bench included. Calendar +1
Conditions perfect.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Votes for a calendar ride please :thumbsup:
+1
I have a slight inkling of the size of the task. Though, of course, Shawn might have cunning plans.
Think your link is wrong.
should that be The Abbots Ann Silver Fox :P
I notice in your report you said you did a lot of planning. Is it hard to find resupply points on this route or was it because you were worried about missing the time cut?
I'm having another go - this time starting from Keynsham though, which is a lot closer to home.
So, although it's the same route, it's not an 8pm Friday night start at the BP garage on Longfleet rd. in Poole - so it's a not a real Crackpot. Let's just say it's a recce for a proper ride later on when I've got more time.
Someone else is riding it next week too I hear ...
I'm having another go - this time starting from Keynsham though, which is a lot closer to home.
So, although it's the same route, it's not an 8pm Friday night start at the BP garage on Longfleet rd. in Poole - so it's a not a real Crackpot. Let's just say it's a recce for a proper ride later on when I've got more time.
Someone else is riding it next week too I hear ...
How did you do?
Wow - what a ride !
MEGATRON
Good effort GPS!
I survived !
Had a mixed bag of weather, but once you've been soaked and covered in slurry, and sleep deprivation kicks in, you stop caring. I had to really dig deep to keep going between Minehead & Culmstock - the laney, slurry-covered climbs and descents were relentless. Those climbs really slow you down and just seem like they'll never end.
Note to self - use mudguards next time. :facepalm: The weight you save by not fitting them is quickly added back to your bike on a damp Wessex ride. Got some quality disbelieving stares in the Motorway services ...
Tired and knackered now. Wonder how Simon's getting on ? There are a few really irritating diversions on the route at the moment.
Wow - what a ride !
I survived !
Had a mixed bag of weather, but once you've been soaked and covered in slurry, and sleep deprivation kicks in, you stop caring. I had to really dig deep to keep going between Minehead & Culmstock - the laney, slurry-covered climbs and descents were relentless. Those climbs really slow you down and just seem like they'll never end.
Note to self - use mudguards next time. :facepalm: The weight you save by not fitting them is quickly added back to your bike on a damp Wessex ride. Got some quality disbelieving stares in the Motorway services ...
Tired and knackered now. Wonder how Simon's getting on ? There are a few really irritating diversions on the route at the moment.
Wonder how Simon's getting on ?
Brilliant ride, GPS!Wonder how Simon's getting on ?
He had some sleep near Frome (on the third of the four southwards legs) in the early hours of today.
He had time in hand. He's got until 2.08pm tomorrow (Friday) to reach the finish at Poole.
Here's wishing him well!
From Simon at 11.57:
"I can't believe this.... 4km away from centre of Poole and rear derailleur has completely twisted. So I guess I'm going to have to push to get to the station! that's all I need! At least it didn't happen in the wessex wilds...
Oh well I knew I needed a new chainset."
From Simon at 11.57:
"I can't believe this.... 4km away from centre of Poole and rear derailleur has completely twisted. So I guess I'm going to have to push to get to the station! that's all I need! At least it didn't happen in the wessex wilds...
Oh well I knew I needed a new chainset."
From Simon at 11.57:
"I can't believe this.... 4km away from centre of Poole and rear derailleur has completely twisted. So I guess I'm going to have to push to get to the station! that's all I need! At least it didn't happen in the wessex wilds...
Oh well I knew I needed a new chainset."
Bummer!
If a skimmer snaps a chain, what's the best way of setting it up single-speed to finish a ride?
I remember when I tried to convert a Raleigh Bomber to SS but leaving the block on; the chain just jumped off onto another cog and got chewed up. I was late for work at the not-so-local Cantonese restaurant where it was my job to introduce the delights of GB fish & chips. Luckily a mate was passing in his work van and loaded the Bomber on board (it took two of us) - I digress...
I suppose it was because they are not cogs in the true sense and are made to change gear? Probably better to use the outer one (even though it will probably be the same size a satellite dish) and the outer ring on the front??
If a skimmer snaps a chain, what's the best way of setting it up single-speed to finish a ride?I did this on the BCM Scenic is 2009 I think. As others have said go for a straight chain line. I was lucky to be on a triple(but only 8spd 13-23 on the back). This meant that 41-16 was straight which is a good gear for hills but spun out on the Monmouth-Chepstow road. Obviopusly remove read derailier and shorten the chain. Chain half link long is ok. Sprocket one to the outside of straight is also safe - the others wont catch is to cause a shift when its very nearly straight but on the other side it could drop off
I remember when I tried to convert a Raleigh Bomber to SS but leaving the block on; the chain just jumped off onto another cog and got chewed up. I was late for work at the not-so-local Cantonese restaurant where it was my job to introduce the delights of GB fish & chips. Luckily a mate was passing in his work van and loaded the Bomber on board (it took two of us) - I digress...
I suppose it was because they are not cogs in the true sense and are made to change gear? Probably better to use the outer one (even though it will probably be the same size a satellite dish) and the outer ring on the front??
The first calendar event was scheduled at 15k/hr minimum. Only 3 or 4 (can't remember) of us were inside that. Shawn appealed and ACP told him the minimum should be 13.333 (etc.). How that is interpreted is down to your friendly perm or DIY organiser.
Hippy, It doesn't exist as a Perm so just submit a track and checkpoints to your DIY org using the mandatory routes by GPS method. I based mine on the original route sheet for the calendar event in 2000. Checkpoints were a little different as Shawn arranged some controls in people's homes. I just wanted to do it at 15kph RM speed to do the same as the calendar riders in the originals. 75 hrs. My choice. If you want tracks etc PM me. I'll cc a message I sent to another rider. More info than you'll need. Just look up the Diy procedure and online entry on the AUK site. There is info on Shaun's wessexsr website. Crackpot icon on home page. Sorry if this is eggsucky. Cheers. Smeth
Aspiring SE Crackpots should enter a Mandatory DIY Perm and enter DIYSE4339 in the additional info box. No other route info needed. I'll let you have a gpx track to follow, as ridden by previous crackpots (hopefully it matches the routesheet!).
Aspiring SE Crackpots should enter a Mandatory DIY Perm and enter DIYSE4339 in the additional info box. No other route info needed. I'll let you have a gpx track to follow, as ridden by previous crackpots (hopefully it matches the routesheet!).
Cheers! Is there a list of these DIY codes for other popular/known/previous calendar rides?
No... I've got a few as submitted by riders... I'd not be comfortable with publishing a list at this time, it raises all sorts of issues yet to be adddressed (ref this thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=99700.0))
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...
https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...
https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/
Brilliant stuff, truly impressive. And the composition of the report is nearly as good as the feat of riding the event.
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...
https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/
Brilliant stuff, truly impressive. And the composition of the report is nearly as good as the feat of riding the event.
Not at all for me. It is an unfulfilled ambition of mine.
H
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...
https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/
Brilliant stuff, truly impressive. And the composition of the report is nearly as good as the feat of riding the event.
Not at all for me. It is an unfulfilled ambition of mine.
H
Thanks Alfapete!
Hummers - a group perm has to happen! Got any good dates? Maybe discuss it at the reunion if you're there on the Friday night?
Late May-2017? :demon:
Am up on the Saturday and will be able to hold a conversation at any time up until 9pm. :thumbsup:
After that I am aiming for any meaningful intercourse to be at best difficult to recall and at best impossible to discern. :demon:Late May-2017? :demon:
That would be a realistic target.
H
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?
Yup - watch this (& that) space.
OK folks
Gadge & me will be attempting 01-Jun-2017 - 04-Jun-2017
Shawn has given us the go-ahead for a group perm if you'd like to join us?
OK folks
Gadge & me will be attempting 01-Jun-2017 - 04-Jun-2017
Shawn has given us the go-ahead for a group perm if you'd like to join us?
... if you'd like to join us?
I am on holiday with my wife. Can I change the dates of the Hay Festival?... if you'd like to join us?
It's in the diary!
Wow Jonah - looks like this is actually going to happen ! Well done.
If I can't ride it for family reasons, I'd definitely be up for helping organise a control somewhere. Bristol/Bath area maybe ?
How are you planning to ride this by the way - euraudax style or every man for himself ?
I'm becoming slightly obsessed with this ride, I have to give it a go.
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?
Yup - watch this (& that) space.
Bob said "Paaahup inn negzt toime yer pahssi 'n' say ellow"
He lives (and works very well) at New Barn Yard Sandley, Gillingham SP8 5DZ but I can't remember which leg that as on?
Memories of our ride-ending late night visit to the Fox in Corscombe weigh heavy on my mind though ...
Bob said "Paaahup inn negzt toime yer pahssi 'n' say ellow"
He lives (and works very well) at New Barn Yard Sandley, Gillingham SP8 5DZ but I can't remember which leg that as on?
:thumbsup:
That's about 670k in, bang on the route just after Zeals on the way down to Dorchester, should be sometime around early evening on Day 3
Memories of our ride-ending late night visit to the Fox in Corscombe weigh heavy on my mind though ...
I've enjoyed following this thread over the last year or so and, like others, have been inspired to add this to my 'must do' list. Now there is chat of a group perm and I'm getting very excited! Only trouble is that I need to get down from Edinburgh first and the dates don't quite work for me, as I have to be back home early on Sunday June 4th. I know it's still a long way out but for those who are driving the organisation of a group bash, have you any thoughts about when you might start on the Thursday? If I could negotiate things with Shaun I could fly to Bristol and, following GPS's lead, start at Keynsham and hopefully approach Poole as you are all setting out. It would be nice to think that there are others out there on the road suffering at the same time as me, even if we don't spend that long in each other's company.
First flight out of Edinburgh is into Brizzle at 0930. Dump bike box at left luggage and tootle over to Keynsham for an 1130 start. Would therefore hope to be making landfall (i.e. Poole) by about the same time on Thursday. As long as I thought I was ahead of the field clearing Poole then it would be nice to have people saying, "Hello," as they overtook me. If I could limp round by lunchtime on the Saturday I'd then spend the rest of the day licking my wounds in The Star in Bath. Kip down with a pal who lives opposite and be back at the airport for the first flight to Edinburgh on the Sunday. Obviously this makes it all sound horribly straightforward. I know it won't be but have to maintain a PMA.
As long as there is a dirty laundry bin full of napkins to cover yourself in, you'll be fine.True story
I'm very tempted but haven't done anything longer a (solo) hilly 500.
Would I be setting myself up for failure?
The support offer is there whether i ride it not. Need to keep the legend going.
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off
Riding over Exmoor overnight - hard core ! Minehead to Bovey in the dark will be something else.
OK Folks
Straw poll consensus for the ride timmings appear to be Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off with a finish in Hell at around the same time 3-days later.
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off
Riding over Exmoor overnight - hard core ! Minehead to Bovey in the dark will be something else.
It's best just as the sky lightens. Though with a full moon, a night traverse might be wonderful.
Thanks for the offer of support Smeth! Jonah has advised that his mother and father have also offered to opertae a control from their caravan - they're looking at Kine Bush Farm - Home Of Copse House Cider at c. 750K for Dorset bred hot sausage rolls and Copse House Cider whic is pressed in said farm.
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick offRiding over Exmoor overnight - hard core !
Copse house (at 666km, by my reckoning?)
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick offRiding over Exmoor overnight - hard core !
That would make a real ball-buster of a first day and a half. Bovey tracey would definitely be out of hours (c.3am?) I guess we would be looking to get somewhere between Wells and Thornbury (as the route passes between bristol and bath), c.550km, before stopping on the Friday night ... ouch ...
Copse house (at 664km, by my reckoning?) would be 11/12 ish on the Saturday morning
Second night stop would be around Membury (870km)
I'm tired just thinking about it!
My mate has had his heart bypass and is making good progress so my attendance on this weekend is going to be put on hold until another time.
All the best mes amis.
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I hope your mates Alright
My mate has had his heart bypass and is making good progress so my attendance on this weekend is going to be put on hold until another time.
All the best mes amis.
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This us most unfortunate H
I hope your mates Alright
He had open heart surgery with the added bonus of an unplanned stay in hospital over Christmas. In addition, he has an interesting large vagina shaped wound on his shin where they whipped some blood vessels out to by pass the buggered ones around his heart. Two months on and it still hasn't healed however he is still keen to do LEJoG with me on a motorbike and sidecar which clashes with the planned Crackpot date.
The only consolation was that had he attended night 4 of our pre-Christmas bender he probably would have died and knowing my chums, nobody would have realised until it was his round.
H
Anyone good with calculating control opening and closing times. If we get this in the bag we can plan to cover the stops where there is nothing about...
Control | Distance (km) | Opens | Closes | |
1 | Poole | 0 | 25/05/2017 13:00 | |
2 | Halstock | 65 | 25/05/2017 15:10 | 25/05/2017 17:52 |
3 | Minehead | 157 | 25/05/2017 18:14 | 26/05/2017 00:46 |
4 | Bovey Tracey | 251 | 25/05/2017 21:22 | 26/05/2017 07:49 |
5 | Culmstock | 308 | 25/05/2017 23:16 | 26/05/2017 12:06 |
6 | Sedgemoor | 372 | 26/05/2017 01:24 | 26/05/2017 16:54 |
7 | Axminster | 441 | 26/05/2017 03:42 | 26/05/2017 22:04 |
8 | Tor Hole | 523 | 26/05/2017 06:26 | 27/05/2017 04:13 |
9 | Thornbury | 578 | 26/05/2017 08:16 | 27/05/2017 08:21 |
10 | Zeals | 663 | 26/05/2017 11:06 | 27/05/2017 14:43 |
11 | West Stafford | 719 | 26/05/2017 12:58 | 27/05/2017 18:55 |
12 | Codford | 800 | 26/05/2017 15:40 | 28/05/2017 01:00 |
13 | Membury | 870 | 26/05/2017 18:00 | 28/05/2017 06:15 |
14 | Ower | 943 | 26/05/2017 20:26 | 28/05/2017 11:43 |
15 | Poole | 1000 | 26/05/2017 22:20 | 28/05/2017 16:00 |
I used the Piddle Valley because its on the 2000 route sheet. I think it's the most rural road, also dropping East of Dorch.
Crackpot Group DIY entry list
1. Jonah
2. swiss hat
Crackpot Group DIY entry list
1. Jonah
2. swiss hat
I'm out due to work >:(
I'll chip in on costs though (well, I previously said I'd do it, and I'm treating it like DNSing a calendar event).
My steady build up went well up until the end of Porkers, it just didn't go any further. Im sure 75 hours of Wessex delights will address my current lack of conditioning.
...I'm of a mind to keep going to the finish (if I can), even if it's obvious I'm going to be out of time.
Dear AllAbsoflippinlutely yes. Very welcome. I'm basically the catering/housekeeping so let us know here either way and pm Anthony who has everything at his fingertips or me for any info you need.
There is a slim outside chance I could get a chance to ride this - by lucky chance the stars are aligning in a manner i had nor foreseen. I do not know if I have enough credits on the homefront yet to cash in but are you still open to any more riders? This looks like quite a ride so would not want to miss
All the best
On this one the Minehead to Bovey stage is the one to brace yourself for. Mega. The next stage has more climbing per KM on paper but it's easier (relatively!)That's really helpful to know, thanks. will remain positive even if I'm technically out of time until much closer to the end than I'd planned!
The only thing I'd add to Andy's comments is that you will make up a lot of time from Membury Services at about 880k. Jonah told me that and it's bang on. I'm not recommending it but if you set off into the last day a couple of hours behind time you will make it unless you or the bike break.
God's speed folks - please update YACF if you get a rare sane moment
Believe me when I say I'm gutted to the core but I need to rest my Brimstone Achilies
All the best for your adventure and you are in safe hands with the support crew
Jonah X
18:18 Bridgwater Warner Towers Alex Frost rejuvenated after shower lasagne rice pudding combo
Crackpot 2017 The Time Trial Legend Nick Gardiner tucks in to my grub service in Bridgwater control - how cool is that
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Four riders are with us now, the first trio arriving before 2200. Four more out there soldiering on. Expected in next 60 to 90 minutes. Ok for time. Just on an errand to sort a mechanical. Chilli, couscous, baked spuds etc. being served.AF arrived 0015. Looking fine. Sleep at last.
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;D18:18 Bridgwater Warner Towers Alex Frost rejuvenated after shower lasagne rice pudding combo
That's the ultimate in audax efficiency at a control.
Really surprised at Andy P packing he looked so calm and fresh yesterday at Bridgwater control was the last person who I thought would pack - when you plan another attempt let me know in advance we will look after you again in Somerset - rest well fellow audaxer
There were 3 of us who rode Crackpot on fixed.
https://twitter.com/journoraven/status/873280095015882756
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(http://anthonypowis.com/dropbox/Crackpots.jpg)Day made. Genius.
There’s interesting news to be had on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1788401671205071/?ref=share
Here you go..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190612/120223fa69285159c7343c4e6db69723.jpg)noticeably the porkers is on the first Saturday in May, so no Brevet Cymru/Porkers combo. Obviously due to the early May bank holiday moving to the Friday for VE day.
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Thanks Ian - is it a taster of what’s to come next year?The names will have changed (at least three of those mentioned are no longer with us), and I'm sure Shawn will be cooking up some interesting variations to the route. All I can say is that it will fit on to the Wessex tourist map.
It also reminded me - you all had to submit s schedule before Shawn accepted your entry didn’t you ?Only for the first one as I recall, which was originally set at 65hrs max. Only 3 (or was it 4?) of us got inside that limit. Shawn appealed to ACP and they responded saying the min speed was lower above 600k, so 75hrs allowed.
Shawn also required a schedule in 2000, however it took everyone longer than they expected. I set mine for 66:40 (15 km/h) but took a little longer as I had a long sleep in a bed at a pub control on the last night.Thanks Ian - is it a taster of what’s to come next year?The names will have changed (at least three of those mentioned are no longer with us), and I'm sure Shawn will be cooking up some interesting variations to the route. All I can say is that it will fit on to the Wessex tourist map.QuoteIt also reminded me - you all had to submit s schedule before Shawn accepted your entry didn’t you ?Only for the first one as I recall, which was originally set at 65hrs max. Only 3 (or was it 4?) of us got inside that limit. Shawn appealed to ACP and they responded saying the min speed was lower above 600k, so 75hrs allowed.
I think he let me off because I'd ridden it before.Shawn also required a schedule in 2000, however it took everyone longer than they expected. I set mine for 66:40 (15 km/h) but took a little longer as I had a long sleep in a bed at a pub control on the last night.Thanks Ian - is it a taster of what’s to come next year?The names will have changed (at least three of those mentioned are no longer with us), and I'm sure Shawn will be cooking up some interesting variations to the route. All I can say is that it will fit on to the Wessex tourist map.QuoteIt also reminded me - you all had to submit s schedule before Shawn accepted your entry didn’t you ?Only for the first one as I recall, which was originally set at 65hrs max. Only 3 (or was it 4?) of us got inside that limit. Shawn appealed to ACP and they responded saying the min speed was lower above 600k, so 75hrs allowed.
65 hours?
I'm out... ::-)
I tbink your find its 75hours these days.
Think some serious investment in Brownie Points from Mrs CET will be required for CrAcKpOt and Wild Atlantic Way in same year.
Two more Crackpot perm successes this last week end [phew!]
Ian Ryall and Shaun Hargreaves started Thursday and finished some 72hrs or so later.
To help the calendar event next year I have asked for their GPS and any info that may affect the ride in 2020.
Likewise if anyone can provide information on their perm Crackpot experience please get in touch. Don't be shy all assistance appreciated!
I'm already looking forward to watching your blue dot next year :DQuoteI'm hoping to ride Tour Divide next year
I decided that I didn't really want to walk quite that much and if I did, I'd have gone for a walk, not a bike ride.
I decided that I didn't really want to walk quite that much and if I did, I'd have gone for a walk, not a bike ride.
There's a reason it's called a push bike... ;)
You ride through the first night, then sleep in ditches, graveyards etc.Not sure if that was what I was hopping for / dreading. I have avoided the Wessex rides as I prefer rides that go somewhere and the Wessex rides just go round and round with little direction. But I may break my duck next year.
The wessex rides are the best rides there are and give a fine tour of ancient wessex and as someone who as ridden them for 25 years they do go somewhere!!!!I meant rides like BCM, PBP and LEJOG that have a specific direction, I struggled mentally (and on the hills) in the Millie Pennines because it came back to the same place. If I ride the Crackpot I will constantly be distracted by the shortcuts I could take.
Interesting that the AUK calendar is showing Crackpot, then Mille Pennines the following weekend.Madness :thumbsup:
Especially if you have already done Deano’s 1000 as a bit of a warm up :demon:Interesting that the AUK calendar is showing Crackpot, then Mille Pennines the following weekend.Madness :thumbsup:
Interesting that the AUK calendar is showing Crackpot, then Mille Pennines the following weekend.
Why the capitalisation in CrAcKpOt?It's not always done that way but it does signify the insanity of parts of the route: (Edit: and the riders)
Damn. This has been on my DIY todo for ages and now there's a Calendar version I have tickets to a Green Day gig in London on Sat night :SIt'll just have to be a "Boulevard of Broken Dreams". (sorry).
Nah, I'll just go back to doing it as a DIY... I walk alone...
Nah, I'll just go back to doing it as a DIY... I walk alone...
Nah, I'll just go back to doing it as a DIY... I walk alone...Why not offer your services for a route check ?
I'm still waiting for the bloody CTT calendar to come out to pick 12hr races before committing to anything next year. Maybe I can schedule it early.
I'm still waiting for the bloody CTT calendar to come out to pick 12hr races before committing to anything next year. Maybe I can schedule it early.
23rd Aug - National 12hr - Cheshire course + Welsh 12hr (no idea why the clash....)
6th Sep - Kent CA
I suspect no Newbury and I think the Yorkshire event is also disappearing. Not sure on the Breckland and the ECCA.
I'm still waiting for the bloody CTT calendar to come out to pick 12hr races before committing to anything next year. Maybe I can schedule it early.
23rd Aug - National 12hr - Cheshire course + Welsh 12hr (no idea why the clash....)
6th Sep - Kent CA
I suspect no Newbury and I think the Yorkshire event is also disappearing. Not sure on the Breckland and the ECCA.
Cheers, how'd you find those out? Did you go direct to the district or something? Or do you have a draft handbook?
Chesire is probably the fastest of those after Breckland I guess?
The Yorkshire event is being resurrected, under new management and on a different course.
A route check would need to be within two weeks of the calendar ride for the rider to be validated as a rider on the event (as far as I’m aware anyway).
You could always ride it in April, but it’d have to be a DIY perm in that case.
It was always going to be a DIY as I didn't expect it to be a calendar event. Is there any advantage to doing it within the 2 week window? What does being validated on the event get me compared to riding it, say, 3 weeks out. Would it then allow the 1000k to count towards Brevet 10000-esque awards or similar? I definitely can't do it the weekend after but perhaps the two weekends before it would be possible (and make sense from a route check point of view).
Advantage: The ten points would be calendar events points not DIY points, depending on your remotest interest in 'points' :)A route check would need to be within two weeks of the calendar ride for the rider to be validated as a rider on the event (as far as I’m aware anyway).Is there any advantage to doing it within the 2 week window? What does being validated on the event get me compared to riding it, say, 3 weeks out. Would it then allow the 1000k to count towards Brevet 10000-esque awards or similar?
You could always ride it in April, but it’d have to be a DIY perm in that case.
I'm very tempted by this. I'm doing a 2800k over 7 days at the start of the month so I should be fit for this. Do clip on guards count?400km per day for 7 days?
Yeah, but I'm supported.I'm very tempted by this. I'm doing a 2800k over 7 days at the start of the month so I should be fit for this. Do clip on guards count?400km per day for 7 days?
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... but the schedule just looks like a work of fiction.
Do clip on guards count?As long as the mud flap is lower than the wheel axle.
Life360 phone app: anyone have any experience of this as a closed event tracker?
It would be very convenient for 'keeping an eye on' front and back markers (and it's free :) ).
Also provides means to message DNFs etc around controls. Can be switched on just for an event. They say 10 is best for each group but can take more. Groups or circles to be deleted after each event.