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simonp

Re: Base training
« Reply #850 on: 20 February, 2018, 08:27:17 pm »
They started with 0.77 and changed it to 0.76 but the algorithm is a little more complex, apparently.

simonp

Re: Base training
« Reply #851 on: 20 February, 2018, 09:22:52 pm »
326W => ftp 248 (to nearest watt)

About where I’d expect to be.

simonp

Re: Base training
« Reply #852 on: 21 February, 2018, 11:38:47 am »
326W => ftp 248 (to nearest watt)

About where I’d expect to be.

TrainerRoad have commented and also say FTP = 248.

Target: raising this by 20W by summer.

Re: Base training
« Reply #853 on: 21 February, 2018, 01:53:36 pm »
326W => ftp 248 (to nearest watt)

About where I’d expect to be.

TrainerRoad have commented and also say FTP = 248.

Target: raising this by 20W by summer.
How does 248 compare to last year? What plan(s) are you doing? And have you signed up for their Beta service showing you old data? I signed up, but nothing's changed on my account yet.

I'm starting the second block of sustained power build, and then I guess I'll do the 40k TT specialist one. That only takes me to June though, so I should be able to get another build in if I feel up to it. I'd like to get up to (or beyond if poss) 260 or so by the end of the summer. That's another 26 Watts - I've basically gone up 10W every month or so after using TR (I only started in September), but I'm assuming it's going to start levelling off soon!

simonp

Re: Base training
« Reply #854 on: 21 February, 2018, 03:55:43 pm »
326W => ftp 248 (to nearest watt)

About where I’d expect to be.

TrainerRoad have commented and also say FTP = 248.

Target: raising this by 20W by summer.
How does 248 compare to last year? What plan(s) are you doing? And have you signed up for their Beta service showing you old data? I signed up, but nothing's changed on my account yet.

I'm starting the second block of sustained power build, and then I guess I'll do the 40k TT specialist one. That only takes me to June though, so I should be able to get another build in if I feel up to it. I'd like to get up to (or beyond if poss) 260 or so by the end of the summer. That's another 26 Watts - I've basically gone up 10W every month or so after using TR (I only started in September), but I'm assuming it's going to start levelling off soon!

So last year I was ahead based on KickR power numbers (but I estimate it was over reading by around 15W). I we assume Neo is spot on, I'm within 3W of a year ago. However I had a problem with my wisdom tooth in February last year which kept me from training for a month, and I retested at 248W in March. So given that hasn't happened this time around, I think I will come out ahead.

I'm on General Build Mid Volume I. However tonight's workout will be replaced by a rowing water session.

My best ever 8 minute test scored 276W. Call that 260W. I will be happy with getting back to 260W, anything higher will be a bonus.


Re: Base training
« Reply #855 on: 22 February, 2018, 12:30:49 pm »
I did this one this morning - it didn't feel mega hard, so I'm pretty happy with that. :)
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/15404323-washington

simonp

Re: Base training
« Reply #856 on: 22 February, 2018, 12:36:15 pm »
I did this one this morning - it didn't feel mega hard, so I'm pretty happy with that. :)
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/15404323-washington

Yep, looks like you nailed that.

I am coming down with something. Bah.

Re: Base training
« Reply #857 on: 22 February, 2018, 05:17:04 pm »
Yep, looks like you nailed that.

I am coming down with something. Bah.
Thanks. :)

It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your training is going well and then you get a cold and you can't push it. :( At least you'll stay ahead of your February from last year.

Re: Base training
« Reply #858 on: 24 February, 2018, 08:26:40 pm »
That was hard. One of those where there is no major pain point, it's just hard, and it stays like that for ages.
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/16265450-fish-2
I reckon I could have done another minute on the end of each interval, but it would have taken some real focus and pain!

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Re: Base training
« Reply #859 on: 24 February, 2018, 11:45:45 pm »
ooo new career view is now available on TR which seems interesting  :thumbsup:

The bit I like the best is now it has all your ride data from TP & Strava you can set up 'seasons' to compare against under 'personal-records' (i.e. pre-LEL and post LEL for example).

It then has a season match facility to compare where you are now with the seasons you set up.  I quite like that (mostly because it tells me I am 30+ watts better than I was this time last year lol)
Regards,

Joergen

Re: Base training
« Reply #860 on: 27 February, 2018, 09:15:39 am »
I signed up for the Beta, but my Career page hasn't changed yet.
This morning was soooo cold. I did Dade (should have been Dade +1, but I only have 1 hour) and I only had the fan on for the 2nd and 3rd set of intervals.  I need to work out how to block the vents in my shoes - my feet were freezing! The workout was solid though - the +1 version has 2.5 minute intervals at 120%, but the 1 hour version has 2 minute intervals, 6 at 120% and 3 at 140%, and I could hit the numbers and hang on OK. It feels like I'm getting fitter and more sustained ability to really hammer. If I were going to do it again, I might put it up to 101%!
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/17267327-dade

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Re: Base training
« Reply #861 on: 27 February, 2018, 10:00:12 am »
I signed up for the Beta, but my Career page hasn't changed yet.
This morning was soooo cold. I did Dade (should have been Dade +1, but I only have 1 hour) and I only had the fan on for the 2nd and 3rd set of intervals.  I need to work out how to block the vents in my shoes - my feet were freezing! The workout was solid though - the +1 version has 2.5 minute intervals at 120%, but the 1 hour version has 2 minute intervals, 6 at 120% and 3 at 140%, and I could hit the numbers and hang on OK. It feels like I'm getting fitter and more sustained ability to really hammer. If I were going to do it again, I might put it up to 101%!
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/17267327-dade

If I go to https://www.trainerroad.com/career-new/duncanm23 I can see the new version of your profile (it seems stuck at syncing 14 ot 142 rides)
Regards,

Joergen

Re: Base training
« Reply #862 on: 27 February, 2018, 10:45:47 am »
I signed up for the Beta, but my Career page hasn't changed yet.
This morning was soooo cold. I did Dade (should have been Dade +1, but I only have 1 hour) and I only had the fan on for the 2nd and 3rd set of intervals.  I need to work out how to block the vents in my shoes - my feet were freezing! The workout was solid though - the +1 version has 2.5 minute intervals at 120%, but the 1 hour version has 2 minute intervals, 6 at 120% and 3 at 140%, and I could hit the numbers and hang on OK. It feels like I'm getting fitter and more sustained ability to really hammer. If I were going to do it again, I might put it up to 101%!
https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/17267327-dade

If I go to https://www.trainerroad.com/career-new/duncanm23 I can see the new version of your profile (it seems stuck at syncing 14 ot 142 rides)
Strange - that just bounces me to here: https://www.trainerroad.com/career/duncanm23

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Re: Base training
« Reply #863 on: 27 February, 2018, 10:53:20 am »
Where as if I click that, I get bounced to the new version.
Regards,

Joergen

Re: Base training
« Reply #864 on: 01 March, 2018, 12:25:00 pm »
That's really strange.

I'm supposed to be doing Mt Hale today, but I stayed in bed this morning! I could do it now, but I'm just too cold to go into the garage in -3.
Tomorrow morning is going to be -2, so maybe that's a goer - would have to be the 1 hour version though.

Is anyone else training in this weather?

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Re: Base training
« Reply #865 on: 01 March, 2018, 01:07:37 pm »
Just about, it was 5 deg in my pain cave last night, so fan didn't go on until the second interval.
Regards,

Joergen

simonp

Re: Base training
« Reply #866 on: 01 March, 2018, 01:10:26 pm »
My wrist had two steroid injections yesterday, one to try to deal with a ganglion cyst, the other into the area around the tfcc. I asked about what I could do afterwards - rowing is obviously out, but also I'm not allowed to even do turbo.

Yet more disruption to my training.

Should be back on it after the weekend, and at least my lurgy from last week is now gone. I did a 5K test at the rowing club on Tuesday and that was horrible, managed 19:45 which I wasn't too happy with. My breathing felt really bad during the middle. Didn't warm up well enough due to issues with getting a new HR strap working as well.

At least I've set a time that I should be able to beat.

Re: Base training
« Reply #867 on: 01 March, 2018, 01:16:27 pm »
I suspect the person did not understand what a turbo is!

I would put no limitations on what you can do after a steroid into your wrist.  It will hurt as I have just stuck a big needle into you.  Will using it damage you - NO.

certainly on the turbo if you are not putting your weight on your hands what harm can you do?  So either TT position on turbo or do aerobic sub FTP work with your arms crossed and no weight on the bars.

Alternatively only use the good hand on the bars.


simonp

Re: Base training
« Reply #868 on: 01 March, 2018, 03:12:47 pm »
Thanks Chris.

I don't have aero bars on my turbo bike but I could sit up and do some light stuff. Up to a point - brain will crawl out eventually.

rob

Re: Base training
« Reply #869 on: 01 March, 2018, 10:48:03 pm »
Just about, it was 5 deg in my pain cave last night, so fan didn't go on until the second interval.

Oh how I wish I’d paid extra for the fan with a remote control. 

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Re: Base training
« Reply #870 on: 01 March, 2018, 10:58:00 pm »
there are remote control mains adapters which would do the job. i start my session with the base layer on and take it off during a warmup.

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Re: Base training
« Reply #871 on: 01 March, 2018, 11:34:27 pm »
Just about, it was 5 deg in my pain cave last night, so fan didn't go on until the second interval.

Oh how I wish I’d paid extra for the fan with a remote control.
Remote mains plug ftw. It's a Sonoff one but I've put a different firmware on to match my lights and other house stuff :)
Regards,

Joergen

rob

Re: Base training
« Reply #872 on: 02 March, 2018, 06:41:50 am »
there are remote control mains adapters which would do the job. i start my session with the base layer on and take it off during a warmup.

Yeah, that’s what I do.   At the moment so I have to put it back on pretty quickly before cooling down.

The nearest plug point is quite a distance off and I need an extension cable.   Waiting for the days when I need the garage door open and the fan on full.

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Re: Base training
« Reply #873 on: 02 March, 2018, 07:33:38 am »
Just about, it was 5 deg in my pain cave last night, so fan didn't go on until the second interval.

Oh how I wish I’d paid extra for the fan with a remote control.

It made a big difference to my sessions, especially with the ability to tweak the direction of blow as well as the speed during the warm-up.

Re: Base training
« Reply #874 on: 02 March, 2018, 08:02:46 am »
It has been a slow start to the ear for a number of reasons but finally feel i am back in a reasonable place.
I left my FTP at 230 which was way too high so this was the first workout where I have not dialled back on the percentage at all.  Few drops in power and a few times where I was out of the saddle to give the quads a rest but overall I am quite pleased.
https://www.trainerroad.com/career/chrisbainbridge/rides-new/18170896-fang-mountain-1