Post by: dat on 07 September, 2019, 06:18:24 am
Just grasping at straws due to not getting a place :(
Post by: CaptainVolvo on 07 September, 2019, 06:39:01 am
(Figures are from memory so not necessarily exact).
Not sure what happens if anyone picked doesn’t pay the £100 deposit now, it seems unlikely that there’s anyone in that category given how massively over subscribed it sounds to be.
KDB.
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Post by: Gus on 07 September, 2019, 07:38:21 am
That I can take a week cycling in the UK without her.
Or she might stay a week in London shopping, in which case LEL is very cheap to participate in 😰
Post by: CaptainVolvo on 07 September, 2019, 08:00:43 am
Got an early space, Noe I've got the task convinsing my Better Half:Or she can spend a week volunteering at a control and fully immerse herself in the event....
That I can take a week cycling in the UK without her.
Or she might stay a week in London shopping, in which case LEL is very cheap to participate in
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Post by: Gus on 07 September, 2019, 09:46:28 am
Got an early space, Noe I've got the task convinsing my Better Half:Or she can spend a week volunteering at a control and fully immerse herself in the event....
That I can take a week cycling in the UK without her.
Or she might stay a week in London shopping, in which case LEL is very cheap to participate in
She can, but her english vocabulary is very Limited, so I think it will be to overwelming for her. She is a great support, but without the language she will struggle.
Post by: CaptainVolvo on 07 September, 2019, 12:46:49 pm
I’m a native English speaker and my language goes downhill on long rides so most communication would be sign language and grunts anyway....Got an early space, Noe I've got the task convinsing my Better Half:Or she can spend a week volunteering at a control and fully immerse herself in the event....
That I can take a week cycling in the UK without her.
Or she might stay a week in London shopping, in which case LEL is very cheap to participate in
She can, but her english vocabulary is very Limited, so I think it will be to overwelming for her. She is a great support, but without the language she will struggle.
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Post by: FifeingEejit on 07 September, 2019, 02:13:28 pm
Got an early space, Noe I've got the task convinsing my Better Half:Or she can spend a week volunteering at a control and fully immerse herself in the event....
That I can take a week cycling in the UK without her.
Or she might stay a week in London shopping, in which case LEL is very cheap to participate in
She can, but her english vocabulary is very Limited, so I think it will be to overwelming for her. She is a great support, but without the language she will struggle.
Dunfermline would be ideal then :P
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 07 September, 2019, 05:23:49 pm
She can, but her english vocabulary is very Limited, so I think it will be to overwelming for her. She is a great support, but without the language she will struggle.
Do remember that we do have over 50 countries riding .. foreign languages are really appreciated as they might be very important .. no idea which country your wife is from .. but for information we do have large numbers of Far eastern riders from almost every country covered by that description that you could name... so maybe maybe
Roger
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 07 September, 2019, 05:28:28 pm
If people got picked for the early entry ballot but don't take up their place what happens? Place redrawn?
Just grasping at straws due to not getting a place :(
Query has been raised already .. I dont think many will not pay up .. but if there are some .. given the huge vote of confidence that you were placing in the organisers by being willing to put up £100 now for a ride in 2 years time .. I think we might ... just might .. do a reallocation .. but chances would be tiny .. say 10 places for 1600 names .
Jan 2021 you will have another chance .. we estimate that there will be again about 800 places in the draw .. but how many applicants is an unknown
Post by: mattc on 07 September, 2019, 07:18:00 pm
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The ballot is somewhat oversubscribed. We have almost six applications for every place. We want to give some priority to certain groups such as women, riders aged over 70 and riders from smaller countries. This will make conditions less favourable for riders from countries with the largest numbers of applications: India, UK, Germany and USA.
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Post by: Hofnar on 09 September, 2019, 05:21:19 am
Sidenote: Haven't things changed in randonneuring? 10 years ago who would anticipate seeing this:
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The ballot is somewhat oversubscribed. We have almost six applications for every place. We want to give some priority to certain groups such as women, riders aged over 70 and riders from smaller countries. This will make conditions less favourable for riders from countries with the largest numbers of applications: India, UK, Germany and USA.
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So basically as long as I enter with my Angolan drivers licence as ID I am almost sure to get a place ;) .
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 09 September, 2019, 09:29:37 am
So basically as long as I enter with my Angolan drivers licence as ID I am almost sure to get a place ;) .
2nd ballot might not follow same pattern .. but it could be worth a try .
Post by: bludger on 09 September, 2019, 09:38:00 am
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 09 September, 2019, 05:33:20 pm
Post by: more miles on 10 September, 2019, 02:37:13 pm
Post by: dat on 10 September, 2019, 04:45:59 pm
Post by: Greenbank on 10 September, 2019, 04:47:10 pm
I think it is a shame to not prioritise UK riders. Many cannot get time off or afford to go aboard for big Audaxs.
Audax UK members get guaranteed places (assuming they were members from the right point). That shouldn't have been a surprise as it was the same for the previous LEL too.
Post by: dat on 10 September, 2019, 06:07:56 pm
I think it is a shame to not prioritise UK riders. Many cannot get time off or afford to go aboard for big Audaxs.
Audax UK members get guaranteed places (assuming they were members from the right point). That shouldn't have been a surprise as it was the same for the previous LEL too.
I'm an AUK member have been for around 4 years but my subs lapsed a few times. I'm not moaning as ther is no use and the rules are set. Just a shame I'll miss out on LEL as it is the only "big" Audax that is feasible around other commitments.
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 10 September, 2019, 11:26:51 pm
I'm an AUK member have been for around 4 years but my subs lapsed a few times. I'm not moaning as ther is no use and the rules are set. Just a shame I'll miss out on LEL as it is the only "big" Audax that is feasible around other commitments.
If you want to ride LEL which is an audax ride .. but dont keep your membership up .... then you have the chance of a place from either the first ballot or the second one.
Post by: vorsprung on 11 September, 2019, 09:42:20 am
I think it is a shame to not prioritise UK riders. Many cannot get time off or afford to go aboard for big Audaxs.
Audax UK members get guaranteed places (assuming they were members from the right point). That shouldn't have been a surprise as it was the same for the previous LEL too.
I'm an AUK member have been for around 4 years but my subs lapsed a few times. I'm not moaning as ther is no use and the rules are set. Just a shame I'll miss out on LEL as it is the only "big" Audax that is feasible around other commitments.
Book the time off work
Get fit
Sign up as a volunteer
Wait and see if there are late places
If there aren't, go volunteer somewhere nice and get a short (300 or so) ride in
Post by: The French Tandem on 11 September, 2019, 05:42:24 pm
I think it is a shame to not prioritise UK riders. Many cannot get time off or afford to go aboard for big Audaxs.
Other people could say "it is a shame to not prioritise foreign riders". Just a different point of view ;)
A
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 11 September, 2019, 05:49:56 pm
Post by: Zed43 on 11 September, 2019, 09:19:04 pm
Post by: quixoticgeek on 11 September, 2019, 09:25:35 pm
Foreign riders who really want to ride LEL (or the BCM) are AUK member :D And Arrivée is a nice bonus I would add.
I joined auk as they validate DIY's. Awoowoo and LEL entry is just a bonus...
I hope DaT can get in via the next opportunity.
J
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 11 September, 2019, 10:19:34 pm
I'd have a quota for PBP volunteers, both ACP and FF Velo. It needn't be much, but a nice gesture.
Why should we do that .. we are already predicting a massive demand .. well beyond the maximum that we think we can handle. Nice gesture .. but how the heck do we know you were a PBP volunteer .. you have just added to the work load.
We have lots of
" the rest of my team are in .. but I am not .. can you correct this "
Rubbish .. you never entered.
My boss is going to sponsor me .. can you add him in.
No
And as for all those who are unable to cope with paying us £100 and insist on using £100 to pay to their currency .. whether US$, Thai Bat , Swedish Krona .. the list is endless ... I despair at times.
Then of course there are the .. I paid 10 minutes ago .. can you confirm receipt of my payment. Here I do exaggerate a little .. it is usually at least 24 hours before that query turns up.
Handling the cash and all the related problems that human beings can perpetrate is already taking me something like 6 hours a day .. and we have only had about 300 of the 800 pay so far. I already see Jan 2021 as an absolute nightmare
Clearly you have caught me in a grumpy mood .. time for bed !!
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 11 September, 2019, 11:39:43 pm
I'd have a quota for PBP volunteers, both ACP and FF Velo. It needn't be much, but a nice gesture.
Why should we do that .. we are already predicting a massive demand .. well beyond the maximum that we think we can handle. Nice gesture .. but how the heck do we know you were a PBP volunteer .. you have just added to the work load.
Because they can't ride their own event, as they're organising it. Pretty much the whole ACP committee rode in 2009. Richard Leon gets to ride PBP, and he summed up the view of many in 2013. I saw Danial doing sterling work at the Arrivee in Rambouillet this year. Inviting ACP and FF Velo to nominate a dozen or so riders shouldn't generate much work, and they might bring some volunteers with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0SFQnRzt7Q
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 12 September, 2019, 03:35:08 pm
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 12 September, 2019, 05:14:53 pm
I misunderstood the suggestion .. I thought that you were offering volunteers at the controls a potential place .. Danial's links with the French authorities are good .. so anyone asking for a place would I am quite sure get a very sympathetic hearing.
i was just thinking that here would be key people who had to put in a lot of work with the changes at PBP, who would like to have ridden, but had to step into the breach to make PBP 2019 work.
I also had a conversation with the French rider we saved in 2013 in Alston. he said the French would be riding 1,000s to ensure PBP qualification. PBP has gone down a similar path to LEL with regards to accomodating increased demand. A small allocation to ACP/FF Velo might be a mark of appreciation for all their work.