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Title: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: andygates on 29 September, 2010, 11:12:41 am
Nice one Emma!  

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Emma Pooley has become the first British woman to win the Road World Championships time trial with a dominant victory in Australia.

The 27-year-old clocked a time of 32 minutes, 48.44 seconds to beat Judith Arndt of Germany by 15.17 seconds.

New Zealand's Linda Melanie Villumsen finished third.

Pooley, who won the time trial silver medal at the 2008 Olympics, had to change her bike at the last minute when officials found a discrepancy with it.

The incident happened just before the start line but Pooley was able to put it behind her and was quickest at every checkpoint on the 22.9km (14.22 mile) course in Geelong.

BBC Sport - Cycling - Briton Emma Pooley wins time trial gold in Australia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/9042883.stm)
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 September, 2010, 11:15:55 am
15seconds!

STONKING
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: malrees2 on 29 September, 2010, 11:21:27 am
Amazing that she weighs only 50Kgs. Half of that must be in her legs!
A fantastic ride, as was that of Jeannie Longo to come fifth just before her 52nd birthday.
M
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: clarion on 29 September, 2010, 11:30:30 am
Fantastic!

And Longo is a legend.
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: JT on 29 September, 2010, 11:34:54 am
Great stuff by Pooley. Let's hope she can repeat in the road race.

I wouldn't get too effusive with the praise for Longo.
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: Ray 6701 on 29 September, 2010, 11:52:08 am
Fantastic news  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 29 September, 2010, 12:18:34 pm
Wow, that's quite a margin! Well done Emma  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: Bledlow on 29 September, 2010, 12:25:57 pm
Amazing that she weighs only 50Kgs. Half of that must be in her legs!
M
Emma, including legs -

(http://www.veloresults.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/EmmmmaPooley-430x846.jpg)
Title: World Championships [spoilers]
Post by: citoyen on 29 September, 2010, 12:41:11 pm
Brilliant performance!  :thumbsup:

I was trying to avoid finding out* until I watched the highlights (British Eurosport from 4pm this afternoon) but I couldn't resist. Absolutely fantastic news.

d.

*the title of this thread doesn't really help.
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: CommuteTooFar on 29 September, 2010, 12:46:52 pm
I watched it this morning live instead of news.  It was on 301.
Best not watch mens time trial or I will be late for work.
Title: World Championships [spoilers]
Post by: citoyen on 29 September, 2010, 12:48:51 pm
I watched it this morning live instead of news.  It was on 301.

Wish I'd known. I looked for it but couldn't find it. What is 301 anyway?

d.
Title: World Championships [spoilers]
Post by: citoyen on 29 September, 2010, 12:50:50 pm
PS can we get the thread title changed for the benefit of those who don't want spoilers? Too late for this one, but there are several more events to come. On which subject...

Come on, Cav!

d.
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: CommuteTooFar on 29 September, 2010, 12:52:13 pm
301 is BBC-I freeview interactive channel.  I was looking at what passes for ceefax on freeview and spotted the menu item Live Cycling, so I pressed it and skipped my morning shower.
Title: World Championships [spoilers]
Post by: citoyen on 29 September, 2010, 12:58:24 pm
Gah! Didn't occur to me to look on the BBC - I was browsing the sport channels.

(301 is aka "the red button" for Sky viewers)

d.
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: Tim Hall on 29 September, 2010, 01:17:28 pm

I wouldn't get too effusive with the praise for Longo.


Care to expand? 

Puzzled of Crawley.

Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: clarion on 29 September, 2010, 01:50:24 pm
There have been persistent suggestions of 'enhancements' to Ms Longo's performance.  He may be referring to that. 
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: JT on 29 September, 2010, 02:39:00 pm

I wouldn't get too effusive with the praise for Longo.


Care to expand? 

Puzzled of Crawley.


Well is the top level of women's cycling really of such a poor standard that a 50 year old is competitive?

If Longo was a bloke, say Larry Armstrong, what would you think?

But aside from that natural suspicion, there have been strong hints recently by a respected cycling journalist that Longo is due for some sort of come-uppance.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: mattc on 29 September, 2010, 03:03:52 pm
Malcoml Elliot is still elite-level at 48.

Sport is about extraordinary people.

(and yes, the womens game is less competitive than the mens, its a numbers thing). <\flamebait>
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: JT on 29 September, 2010, 03:48:53 pm
Malcoml Elliot is still elite-level at 48.

Nonesense. The British Premier Calendar/Tour Series is not the top level of mens cycling. It might be categorised as elite level here in the UK but it's a long way off - which is one reason why Elliot's still relatively competitive.

You're right about the numbers game though - there were under 40 starters for the women's TT this morning.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 29 September, 2010, 06:07:12 pm
I've just caught this on EuroSport. The Polish commentary was rather good, one of the two commentators managed to break at least half a century of national habit and pronounce -ey as 'ee' rather than 'eh'. Once. Let's see if it catches on with that football place. Anyway, I found myself rather pleased with the national colours rather than sponsors' shirts, but then I noticed sky written on Emma's sides. Oh well never mind.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Hot Flatus on 29 September, 2010, 06:48:25 pm
Malcoml Elliot is still elite-level at 48.

Nonesense. The British Premier Calendar/Tour Series is not the top level of mens cycling. It might be categorised as elite level here in the UK but it's a long way off - which is one reason why Elliot's still relatively competitive.

You're right about the numbers game though - there were under 40 starters for the women's TT this morning.

Exactly. You only have to ask yourself if Elliot is as fast as he was when he was Pooley's age. Of course he isn't or he would be a pro tour rider.

If Longo gets busted it won't be the first time.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: clarion on 29 September, 2010, 08:50:10 pm
Won't it?  I wasn't aware she'd failed a test ever*


* Doesn't mean I don't think she might have used drugs
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: citoyen on 30 September, 2010, 08:10:31 am
Valiant effort by Millar but it was never going to happen, was it? It was always a one-horse race. For Millar even to get as close as he did was magnificent.

d.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Nuncio on 30 September, 2010, 09:36:56 am
Yes, I thought Millar had developed into a super-domestique with the chance of getting an occasional opportunistic stage win in a grand tour, but it seems that he can still TT with the best when he's at the top of his form and fitness.  Tony Martin must have been disappointed with the puncture [damn] with having punctured - he was storming at the end and would probably have had a comfortable silver without it.  And Richie Porte will be back - who'd heard of him before this season?

(I'm still ambivalent about DM though - can't help still thinking of him as 'Drugs cheat David Millar')
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Rig of Jarkness on 30 September, 2010, 06:55:27 pm
I'm hoping that Messrs Porte and Rogers will be riding the Commonwealth Games - will make a good opportunity for a rematch with DM
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: onb on 30 September, 2010, 10:28:45 pm

I wouldn't get too effusive with the praise for Longo.


Care to expand? 

Puzzled of Crawley.


Well is the top level of women's cycling really of such a poor standard that a 50 year old is competitive?

If Longo was a bloke, say Larry Armstrong, what would you think?

But aside from that natural suspicion, there have been strong hints recently by a respected cycling journalist that Longo is due for some sort of come-uppance.


Beryl Burton was still racing and winning at the top level in her 50s.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: CommuteTooFar on 02 October, 2010, 02:24:20 pm
Nicole Cooke did everything right till the last 50m when she did not notice the bunch sprint start behind her so she finished fourth instead of first.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Rhys W on 02 October, 2010, 02:43:31 pm
Yes, that was a shame, she put in two big attacks and it looked like the 2nd would succeed. It would have been nice to see her win, she's had too low a profile this year.

I was looking at Bronzini's palmares, and she's quite a sprinter.
Title: Re: Emma Pooley - World Champ
Post by: Hot Flatus on 02 October, 2010, 04:01:20 pm
Beryl Burton was still racing and winning at the top level in her 50s.

Not strictly true.

Beryl Burton won her last  Worlds Gold at the age of 29... that is the top level. By her mid 30's she'd seen the last of her Bronze at top level.

She did win a chunk of national stuff at a ripe old age though.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: mattc on 02 October, 2010, 05:23:02 pm
Yes, that was a shame, she put in two big attacks and it looked like the 2nd would succeed. It would have been nice to see her win, she's had too low a profile this year.

I was looking at Bronzini's palmares, and she's quite a sprinter.
I was just impressed that she gave it a go. It's a lottery in that sort of finish:
- had she gone earlier, the kraut might have tucked in then come past, or
- if she'd sprinted EXACTLY as Vos etc came through, she still had to outsprint 2 top-level sprinters, with the fatigue from a long attack in her legs.

fantastic entertainment, anyway. :thumbsup:

Pushing the sour grapes aside [cos I don't think this changed the outcome of the race]; the squad-size rules aren't entirely fair, are they? In the TT (or any other sport without drafting), fair enough, a strong nation gets more entries. But in a bunch race, it totally skews the outcome. Still, I guess it's been that way a long time ...
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Domestique on 02 October, 2010, 08:28:50 pm
Is the mens race on tv live, had a look at Eurosport but looks like highlights?
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Rhys W on 02 October, 2010, 08:33:25 pm
It's on at 7:35 am, that's gotta be live?
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: David Martin on 02 October, 2010, 08:38:53 pm
It's on at 7:35 am, that's gotta be live?

Yes. And Cav has a chance. Not much of one but still a chance.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: eck on 02 October, 2010, 08:42:11 pm
From the BBC website:
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2 Oct - Men's road race 2240-0610 BST, Red button/online

3 Oct - Highlights of men's road race 1300-1400 BST BBC2/online

It's on all bloody night.  :o
Pass the Horlicks!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Domestique on 02 October, 2010, 08:49:26 pm
Never thought to look on the BBc  :o 
Thanks for that :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: eck on 02 October, 2010, 10:52:46 pm
From the BBC website:
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2 Oct - Men's road race 2240-0610 BST, Red button/online

3 Oct - Highlights of men's road race 1300-1400 BST BBC2/online

It's on all bloody night.  :o
Pass the Horlicks!  :thumbsup:


???
bastard liars BBC  >:(
Has anyone found it, cos I haven't.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: eck on 02 October, 2010, 11:01:10 pm
Just come across this buried on their website:
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Cycling
2240-0610 Live coverage of the World Road Championships from Melbourne Australia - men's road race. Not available on Freeview
So where the fuck is it?
Arseholes  ::-) >:(
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: buzpaz on 02 October, 2010, 11:37:03 pm
7.35 won't be live unless Australia has moved several time zones west. It's shown on website as from 23.40------ it says
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: eck on 02 October, 2010, 11:48:55 pm
7.35 won't be live unless Australia has moved several time zones west. It's shown on website as from 23.40------ it says
???
gordon, do you have a link for that 23.40?
I'm getting a bit pissed off with the BBC. Can you tell?  :demon: ;D
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: buzpaz on 03 October, 2010, 12:00:27 am
in the cycling section of the sport page . it just come on now
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: eck on 03 October, 2010, 12:01:13 am
Aye, just found it! Cheers.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Oaky on 03 October, 2010, 01:01:47 am
Oh crap -- I was just off to bed when I noticed this thread too.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Gus on 03 October, 2010, 06:43:02 am
Yes Yes Yes.... nooooooo

Well the guy from Grimstad deserved it.
Silver for Breschel
Bronze for Davis
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: kcass on 03 October, 2010, 06:57:47 am
What an  amazing race. Hugh Porter outdid himself tho completely missing Gilbert being caught about 2km from the finish.

Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Domestique on 03 October, 2010, 10:36:40 am
Loved that bit just after Thor H crossed the line, with the scrum of people rushing around the winner, picked up his bike and gave it a kiss  8)
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: GruB on 03 October, 2010, 10:56:40 am
Did it show off Australia well chaps?
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Domestique on 03 October, 2010, 11:47:15 am
It did look nice Grub.
Is Melbourne your old patch?
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: GruB on 03 October, 2010, 04:51:08 pm
Yep, well that was the city where I worked.  I came from the eastern suburbs.
Geelong was in the west but it was not really that far away for the Aussie way of travel.
Just down the road  ;D

Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Andrij on 05 October, 2010, 01:42:20 pm
Cool pic from BBC (http://wscdn.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/assets/images/2010/10/04/101004104108_bicycle_710_470.jpg?w=710).
 
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: mattc on 08 October, 2010, 12:10:40 pm
Very Minor Claim to Fame:
John Paul (17yo scottish lead-out sprinter) was training with me 2 years ago, DPCC member. (He used to criticise me for non-helmet wearing every week!)
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: Rhys W on 08 October, 2010, 12:47:20 pm
Are we talking Commonwealth Games here? I saw him in the Team Sprint this morning.

There were 3 ex-members of my club in action on the track, and the highest GB finishers in the Worlds U23 & Women's RR were also ex-members.
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: mattc on 08 October, 2010, 05:56:57 pm
Oooops, yes, Commonwealth of course!

(i was fooled by the complete lack of discussion in this forum - odd, does noone watch if Hoy/Pendleton aren't playing? )
Title: Re: World Champ Spoileriffic Spoiler
Post by: David Martin on 08 October, 2010, 06:10:42 pm
He took the spot that I thought Kev Stewart was going to ride.. Man 1.
Don't know why there wasn't an English team.

..d